Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oriental Orthodoxy

Young Earth Creationism
Please see the edit war I have been involved in today at Young Earth Creationism, and see if anyone can help with the tag at the top of that page. Thanks, Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 18:53, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

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Request for input in discussion forum
Given the closely linked subjects of the various religion, mythology, and philosophy groups, it seems to me that we might benefit from having some sort of regular topical discussion forum to discuss the relevant content. I have put together the beginnings of an outline for such discussion at WikiProject Religion/2011 meeting, and would very much appreciate the input of any interested editors. I am thinking that it might run over two months, the first of which would be to bring forward and discuss the current state of the content, and the second for perhaps some more focused discussion on what, if any, specific efforts might be taken in the near future. Any and all input is more than welcome. John Carter (talk)

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Portal check needed
Could a specialist take a look at the November 2010 and April 2011 edits to Portal:Oriental Orthodoxy/Intro? I saw this in my Recent Change Patrol and don't know what to make of it. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:47, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

CopticWiki
Hello, please consider helping update and maintain http://copticwiki.org which is a MediaWiki site which i specific for the Coptic Orthodox (Oriental Orthodox) views and interests published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.212.126 (talk) 10:46, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Christian devotional literature
Christian devotional literature appeared and is a noteworthy topic. But the article is pretty narrow, as I said on the talk there, and the various denominations who read this should really add their respective components to make it balanced. History2007 (talk) 02:40, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Proposed redirection of Christianity subproject talk pages
I have recently started discussion about possibly eliminating the use of a separate talk page for it here. Input from any interested editors is very welcome and encouraged. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 22:19, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Attack on Book of Enoch
The well known administrator named DBachmann has once again gone on the attack against Ethiopian scholarship on the Book of Enoch, part of the Tewahedo holy canon, and has removed all trace of what Ethiopian scholarship says from the article, leaving only the POV that he supports. Dealing with this guy in the past has always been very difficult, because he imagines he is very powerful on wikipedia. What can be done about such bullying tactics? Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 13:15, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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Nomination of Ethiopian Orthodox Tehadeso Church for deletion
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Discussion regarding Ethiopianorthodox.org at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard
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Lent
I've attempted to make a clarification at Lent, specifically, regarding 55 fasting days vs. 40 days of Lent in the Ethiopian church. (Here's a list of the specific edits: .) I've added some sources along with it. However, as a result of my efforts, the section now leans more heavily toward Lent as practiced in Ethiopian Orthodoxy. Presumably it is the same in Eritrean Orthodoxy; I am not sure at all about the other churches. I thought I'd leave a note here in case anyone else wishes to offer further clarification regarding the other churches (or correction, if necessary, for what I've already written). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:20, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

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Pew report
(Cross-posted to Talk:Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church) This might be of interest to the WikiProject: "Orthodox Christianity in the 21st Century" (PDF), released by the Pew Research Center on 2017-11-08. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:11, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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Ethiopian Orthodox Coptic Church of North and South America
(Cross-posted to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ethiopia)

I have proposed the deletion of Ethiopian Orthodox Coptic Church of North and South America. The article is not about (nor should it be confused with) the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church in North and South America. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:03, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

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Honorifics and "Mar Thoma"
Hi, I have been going through articles and removing honorifics from them. This includes "Mar", "Mor", "Maran Mar", and "Moran Mor". However, I have come to a quandary. "Mar Thoma" is a common appellation in the Malankara Church, and I am told it's not strictly an honorific, but part of a name. There are Metropolitans named "Mar Thoma I, II, III..." and there are many more whose name includes "Mar Thoma" or even spelled "Marthoma". I realize we can't just knock out "Mar" and leave "Thoma" in these cases. Could it be left intact by Wikipedia's guidelines? What to do? Elizium23 (talk) 01:40, 2 March 2020 (UTC)


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Orthodox Tewahedo
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Template talk:Infobox Christian leader
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List of maphrians
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CTV (Egyptian TV channel)
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Request for comment at Shroud of Turin
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Survey on Seraphim Rose page
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Discussion at Talk:Schism of the Ethiopian and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church § Article issues
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Assistance needed for Draft:Joint Commission Of The Theological Dialogue Between The Orthodox Church And The Oriental Orthodox Churches
I need some help expanding the Unofficial Meetings and Official Dialogues section of this draft page.

Also, I'm certain the references for the four official dialogues have a primary source, however I can only seem to find secondary sources online. Perhaps the originals are offline and/or in Greek? Contagious Owl (talk) 01:46, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Coptic Orthodox Diocese of New York and New England
Would some members from this WikiProject mind taking a look at Coptic Orthodox Diocese of New York and New England and assessing it? It was created back in 2015, but nobody created a corresponding article talk page or added any WikiProject banners. Since Coptic Orthodox Church is listed a falling within this project's purview, I thought this would be a good place to ask about the diocese's article as well. The content about scandals might be needed to be closely examined to see whether BLP is being violated. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi again, @Marchjuly - I would love to take a look. Unfortunately, it seems this project is a tad inactive... BiscuitsToTheRescue 19:54, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Alexandria listed at Requested moves
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Discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 23
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Abba Seraphim listed at Requested moves
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Project-independent quality assessments
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List of calendar of saints in the Orthodox Tewahedo listed at Requested moves
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Discussion at Wikipedia:Help desk § Tabot image
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Help desk § Tabot image. Gyrofrog (talk) 17:19, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Tabot has an RfC
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