Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pittsburgh/Archive 2012

Consol Energy history section
Hi, I’ve proposed revisions to the Consol Energy article's history section on the article’s talk page, but haven’t received any feedback as of yet. I was hoping someone from this WikiProject might be willing to take a look and provide feedback on the revisions as I’d like to gain WP:CONSENSUS before moving forward with any revisions. Thanks! - CBuiltother (talk) 12:07, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Football Nav box discussion
The rigid standardization of college football team nav box templates is being discussed at College football Wikiproject. Editors pursuing this standardization have already significantly altered various navboxes, including the Pitt football navbox. Since the lack of customization and rigid standardization may eventually touch policies for navboxes in other topics and Wikiprojects as well, you may wish to add your input to the discussion at the CFB Wikiproject as well as the Pitt football template. CrazyPaco (talk) 08:16, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Now that the holidays are over, we still need comments regarding the strict standardization of template navboxes, which would disallow customization, at CFB Wikiproject as well as the Pitt football template. Thanks in advance for any comments. CrazyPaco (talk) 05:32, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Afd of two articles detailing historical Pitt songs
Two historical Pitt songs have been nominated for deletion, see below. Your comments are appreciated.CrazyPaco (talk) 00:06, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hail to Pitt is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Hail to Pitt until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. [AfD nominated by] P G  Pirate  23:02, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Also,

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pitt Victory Song is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Pitt Victory Song until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. [AfD nominated by]  P G  Pirate 


 * Both of these articles were speedily kept. Thank you. CrazyPaco (talk) 01:45, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Neighborhood Photography
I'm hoping to slowly improve the photography on many of the city neighborhood pages. So far, I'm planning on taking new pictures in and reorganize pictures on the page for:
 * Bloomfield
 * Greenfield
 * Hill District
 * Beechview
 * Brookline
 * Regent Square
 * East Liberty
 * Larimer
 * Lawrenceville
 * Stanton Heights
 * Squirrel Hill
 * South Side
 * Market Square

What are some other suggestions? These are only the pages I know off the top of my head that need revisions. Best, Weatherman1126 (talk ) 06:52, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Would you mind linking the pages and saying more about what revisions do you want to make? I am sure you are right, but it would give us more context for discussion. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk to me 15:39, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure. Basically most pages I've listed have no picture from within the neighborhood, and the pages with pictures have ones that either don't represent the neighborhoods well or are low quality (e.g. South Side). So as I'm available, I'll try to get out and capture some new images from these various neighborhoods. Best, Weatherman1126 (talk ) 17:25, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I certainly support the idea. The more pictures, the better! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk to me 01:02, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Great Pics, love them! Marketdiamond (talk) 11:45, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Update: I've briefly started. Bloomfield, Lawrenceville, East Liberty are now more or less complete. --Best, Weatherman1126 (talk ) 18:37, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

FA Review on Night of the Living Dead
nominated Night of the Living Dead for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. --George Ho (talk) 09:01, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

End of March meetup
See Wikipedia_talk:Meetup/Pittsburgh. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk to me 02:37, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

There is a discussion ongoing regarding the use of the image banner in the Pitt nav template
You may want to add your thoughts on this issue at Template talk:University of Pittsburgh. CrazyPaco (talk) 07:26, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Attempt to remove the colors from the Pitt navbox template
Please leave your comments at Template talk:University of Pittsburgh. CrazyPaco (talk) 15:53, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * In the discussion linked above about template color that I simply cannot understand what the user is getting at. Can anyone help and leave comments? Thank you. CrazyPaco (talk) 17:04, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

New article: Pittsburgh Dad
Pittsburgh Dad.--GrapedApe (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * YES! -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  21:48, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice Addition. MarketDiamond 05:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Luke Ravenstahl/GA2
GA article up for review at Talk:Luke Ravenstahl/GA2.--GrapedApe (talk) 04:04, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing this to the projects attention. Marketdiamond (talk) 22:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

File:Pittsburgh, Allegheny & Birmingham.jpg
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.183.184.128 (talk) 18:00, 11 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Currently only used in the History of Pittsburgh's South Side. Perhaps we should add it to others? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:37, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Alcosan article marked as - why?
About a year ago I took what was a very meager entry for Alcosan and turned it into something with many references (we're now up to 20). I'd say that it now reads like a scholarly book chapter - lots of history. Is the "stub" rating there merely out-of-date? Should I remove it myself? Paul Heckbert (talk) 03:53, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that article looks pretty decent. Good work.--GrapedApe (talk) 03:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

New, very important article for this project
See Jagoff.--GrapedApe (talk) 03:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice, very well researched! user:Marketdiamond MarketDiamond 21:40, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of Edgar Snyder
Edgar Snyder was recently speedy-deleted for not sufficiently establishing the subject's notability. I asked the deleting admin to pass the article's contents on to me so that it could be improved and then resubmitted to mainspace, and I've restored it for now at User:Notyourbroom/Sandbox/Edgar_Snyder. I really don't have much time to work on Wikipedia nowadays, so if anyone would like to help make contributions, it would really be appreciated. &mdash;Bill Price (nyb) 00:37, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Bill for the fast thinking and catch, I will see if I can add some too it. Edgar Snyder not notable?  What's the world coming too :-) . . . I just wonder how many youtube ads he has up.  MarketDiamond 01:31, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * As it is, the article should at least get a proper AfD hearing. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:36, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, obviously&mdash;admin made a poor call&mdash;but I didn't want to antagonize. Figured it would be easiest and most productive to just get the article prose back, get it fixed up, and then get it resubmitted in a deletion-proof state. :) &mdash;Bill Price (nyb) 15:16, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes what exactly would you suggest? Seems to meet all of the requirements so are we just talking about interpretation?  I really am wishing this isn't yet another case of regional bias (like the time Wikinews kept kicking out the G20 news, something to the effect it isn't news unless and after they make a notable agreement, then to see Toronto's G20 appear weeks before and be retained on wikinews, and I can go on and on and on with examples.  MarketDiamond 05:52, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Anyone going to make a move on this article? Seems like it would be feasible to get it past WP:GNG. --GrapedApe (talk) 03:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll leave a comment, the article looks good to go, they want more duplicate and triplucate citations? user:Marketdiamond MarketDiamond 21:38, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I got a [note on my talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANotyourbroom&diff=514519295&oldid=511581986] asking about this today. &mdash;Bill Price (nyb) 17:46, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Steeler Nation discussion
There is a discussion Talk:Steeler_Nation referencing Steeler Nation as "hillbilly" and "white trash" (not my words) based on a free publication citation, also stating that the fanbase (not the team or the team's city) is the sole Applachian fanbase. Please add your insight. Thank you. MarketdiamondMarketDiamond 19:25, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Request for Comment: Steeler Nation Criticism
Please feel free to read & comment here. Thank you. Marketdiamond (talk) 18:44, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Marketdiamond (talk) 09:39, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Request for comment: neighborhood article naming conventions
The main locus of discussion is here. The issue is that an organization in Central Northside voted to change the neighborhood's name to Allegheny City Central. This isn't an official municipal thing; for all official purposes, the neighborhood's name is still CNS, not ACC. The name change is explicitly referred to as a branding and marketing strategy, and it's meant to help increase property values in the area. My belief is that articles should reflect official neighborhood names, not nicknames or "branding initiatives". For example, we have Perry North (Pittsburgh) instead of Observatory Hill, Lawrenceville (Pittsburgh) instead of (e.g.) Lola or Larryville, and Bluff (Pittsburgh) instead of Uptown. The sole exception I can find in all of my research is the fact that Central Business District (Pittsburgh) redirects to Downtown Pittsburgh. Thoughts? &mdash;Bill Price (nyb) 15:48, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey there Bill Price, not sure where you want us to leave comments on this (a formal RfC would be on that articles talk page so I'll follow that protocol). Marketdiamond (talk) 21:27, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving fellow WikiP-Pitttsburghers!
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 * You too -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  04:33, 23 November 2012 (UTC)