Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics/Archive 5

Articles_for_deletion/Henry_d'Agier
This AfD of a 19th century small-town French mayor has been relisted twice now, and I'm curious what people here think of his notability. Kindly drop in on the AfD if you've an opinion.  RGTraynor  04:27, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

War on Terrorism vs Overseas Contingency Operation
Hey all. I'm asking users from this WikiProject and other WikiProjects to weigh in at the talk page for a question about the War on Terrorism page: specifically at this section. Currently, the page says the war ran from "October 7, 2001 - January 20, 2009", where it ends because the Obama administration has discontinued use of the term in favor of the "Overseas Contingency Operation". However, Overseas Contingency Operation currently redirects back to War on Terrorism. The way I see it, we need to either a) create a new Overseas Contingency Operation page that encompasses everything that has gone on since 1/20/09 with the Obama administration and the war on terror, or b) Incorporate toe OCO stuff into the existing War on Terrorism page, in which case the date would be "October 7, 2001 - present". I personally can see merit to both ideas, but I'm not the expert, so I'm seeking input from people more qualified than me to see if we can develop a consensus. I'm hoping we can War on Terrorism page: keep the discussion here so the discussion doesn't split into multiple discussions on multiple WikiProject talk pages. Thanks all! —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  16:47, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

FAR for History of the Australian Capital Territory
nominated History of the Australian Capital Territory for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.) –Grondemar 04:41, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Anarchism at GAH
Anarchism has been nominated for Good Article status. I have assessed it and placed in on hold so that some points I have raised can be dealt with. I see the article has this project's tag, so am informing people here. My comments are at Talk:Anarchism/GA1.--Peter cohen (talk) 16:07, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Politics of Venezuela
There is some discussion at Talk:Politics of Venezuela on how to develop a not-particularly-good article into a better one. If anyone wants to pitch in, either with edits or suggestions, that would be most welcome. Rd232 talk 20:43, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Radicalization
I've just expanded the stub article on radicalization, using the obvious low-hanging references relating to Islamic radicalism. However, as a result the article has an excessive emphasis on recent Islamic militancy and terrorism. It badly needs expanding to include other cases of radicalization -- for example, historical communist and fascist movements, as well as historically unimportant groups such as ecoterrorists, the Red Brigades and 19th century and early 20th century militant anarchism -- as well as taking a look at the resemblances and differences between these cases; there must be scholarly research on this. -- The Anome (talk) 17:33, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Template:Election crosspost
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums and comment there. @harej 21:58, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement
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GA reassessment of P. V. Narasimha Rao
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. As it fails many aspects of the GA criteria I have de-listed it. When the issues have been fixed, it can be renominated at WP:GAN. If you disagree with the reassessment you may ask for a community reassessment at WP:GAR. You can see the concerns at Talk:P. V. Narasimha Rao/GA1. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:44, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Boyle Roche
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Boyle Roche/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:26, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Category:Political repression in...
There is a WP:CFD discussion at Categories for discussion/Log/2010 January 23, which has a suggestion that the Category:Political repressions by country should generally be reconsidered. This might lead to nominating some or all of those categories for deletion; and/or clarifying what the nature and purpose of those categories is. (I've found no trace of anything resembling a definition.) Anyway there is some ambiguity in the CFD whether there is support for a general reconsideration of the wider category type, so if anyone wants to comment here or there, that would be helpful. Rd232 talk 09:12, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

serbian political parties
A great many articles on Serbian political parties have been proposed for deletion via PROD as being unsourced: they are listed at under January 26. And they are in fact unsourced, and I do not have the knowledge to source them. They were mostly added by User:Electionworld, who seems to be no longer active. He must have had soime source, but I do not have any idea what it is, nor can I work with the necessary language. All that's necessary to do is have some source that shows more than just mere legal existence, add it, and remove the prod tag, with an edit summary saying you're addingq a source. As you know, any language will do, print or online.  DGG ( talk ) 23:46, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Advice request for Political Positions section (Esko Aho)
I'm trying to write the article for former Finnish prime minister Aho. The political position section for Aho is difficult to write. He was against EU membership. Later, he was for it and rightfully brought Finland out of the periphery of Europe by getting EU membership. Now EU membership is a non-issue.

So for Aho (or any politician), should there be a political positions section? If so, how should it cover his EU position if his position changed? Also who is to choose which positions to list.(somme issues are obscure, somme issues are hard to say, somme, like the EU are easy).

Since most people here do not know Mr. Aho's name, the generic question is:

'''What are possible ways to handle the political positions section of a politician? Current position? History of his positions? How to select which political issue to cover?'''

I asked this question on the "world's president", Barack Obama because that article has more traffic, unlike Mr. Aho's. I was referred here.Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 20:43, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Should Category:Scandals with -gate suffix stay deleted?
There's a discussion going on here (until February 13) about whether it was proper to delete the "Scandals with -gate suffix" category (Watergate, Troopergate, Travelgate) a subject that may be of interest to members of this project. Please look at the discussion, look at the policy and insert your two cents with all the wisdom you have available to you. -- JohnWBarber (talk) 19:56, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

GA Reassessment of Finland Plot
I have done a GA Reassessment of Finland Plot as part of the GA Sweeps project. I have found the article to not meet current GA Criteria. My review of the issues is here. I will place the article on hold for a week pending work. I am notifying all interested projects and editors. If you have any questions or concerns please contact me on my talk page. H1nkles (talk) 21:24, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

FAR
nominated Sino-German cooperation (1911–1941) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.  YellowMonkey  ( Southern Stars photo poll )  06:23, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Translation request
Hi. I've just added the french interwikis links to the Top-importance Politics articles and FA-Class Politics articles categories. If someone here does speak french, the only article which belongs to both of these categories on fr.wikipedia is Politics of Switzerland. Thank you, Comte0 (talk) 19:13, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Five Constituencies Referendum
Recently, five LegCo members, namely Raymond Wong, Alan Leong, Tanya Chan, Albert Chan and Longhair resigned from the LegCo. The by-election is scheduled in May, and the five intend to participate in it. However, the bar on the bottom of the five politician's pages still read 'incumbent'. Is this intentional, or should it be replaced be a note saying that they've resigned?  Kayau  Odyssey  HUCK FINN   to the lighthouse 03:30, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

GA Reassessment of Leonard Orban
Leonard Orban has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here. --Malleus Fatuorum 15:51, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Catholic social teaching
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Catholic social teaching/GA1. I have placed the article on hold for seven days. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:55, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Conservative organisations
Category:Conservative organisations,, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- Black Falcon (talk) 09:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

GA Reassessment of United Malays National Organisation
I have done a GA Reassessment of the United Malays National Organisation as part of the GA Sweeps project. I have found that the article does not meet the current GA Criteria. Here is my review. This is a high level review, and the issues raised do not represent the entirety of the article. I will put the article on hold for a week pending work and notify all interested projects and editors. Once work on this initial review is accomplished I will do a more thorough review of the content. If you have any questions please contact me on my talk page. H1nkles (talk) 17:22, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Semi-periphery_countries GA review
I have put the GA review of Semi-periphery countries on hold as I feel based on a source check that there is a possibility the information as presented could be unreliable. I would like an expert on the subject to check over the article before resuming the review. See Talk:Semi-periphery countries/GA2.  SilkTork  *YES! 12:37, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Romanticism and Revolution at AfD
Please offer opinions at Articles for deletion/Romanticism and Revolution. -- Banj e b oi   15:27, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

A request for consistent application of NPOV and BLP
Discussion at Village_pump_(policy). THF (talk) 05:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Indonesian National Revolution
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Indonesian National Revolution/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:46, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Compliance requirements
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. You are being notified as this project's banner is on the talk page. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Compliance requirements/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Illinois's 3rd congressional district
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. You are being notified as this project's banner is on the talk page. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Illinois's 3rd congressional district/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:15, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Categories for discussion: 4 discussions on think-tanks
The following four discussions may be relevant to members of this project:
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2010 February 20
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2010 February 26
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2010 February 26
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2010 February 26

You are welcome to contribute to the discussions. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:23, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Liberals by nationality
Category:Liberals by nationality, which is under the purview of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion, along with its 16 sub-categories. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Conservatives by nationality
Category:Conservatives by nationality, which is under the purview of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion, along with its 16 sub-categories. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:13, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

The use of the word "Authority" in the Subversive entry, is misplaced. Authorities are equally subversive!
I am currently working on security culture and I specifically the area of COINTELPRO type action and making its presence described through out. The entry on subversion states that it is to over throw authority, which in the case of the government subverting activists, is not true. And hides the fact that authority does anything in subversive ways. So My request is that authority be removed from the subversive entry. To furth promote the exposure of counter-intelligence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishmael Santre (talk • contribs) 00:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Peer review of Liberalism
A peer review has been opened for the article Liberalism to improve it to a  Featured Article. The editors are asking for input from experts in the subject, especially regarding the Featured Article Criteria: Is it compelling, comprehensive, well researched, and neutral?

Since this project has an interest in this kind of subject, you might wish to improve the article by commenting on the peer review, which you will find here.

Your help would be appreciated. --Nasty Housecat (talk) 20:43, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Terri Schiavo case
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. You are being notified as this project's banner is on the article talk page. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Terri Schiavo case/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:28, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Condoleezza Rice
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. You are being notified as your project's banner is on the article talk page. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Condoleezza Rice/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Centrist organizations
Category:Centrist organizations, Category:Student wings of centrist parties, and Category:Centrist political parties, all of which are under the purview of this WikiProject, have been nominated for deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:04, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

FAR
The Barack Obama article seems disjointed. Everything has references but it is poorly written, maybe because it was written by committee or by warring factions. I have nominated it for FA review. You may help to fix it. A UT professor (talk) 01:13, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Anschluss
nominated Anschluss for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:41, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

AfD:Reverse scientific method
Please, go make your voice heard in the discussion Articles for deletion/Reverse scientific method! Rursus dixit. ( m bork3 !) 13:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Merging political party infoboxes
Shouldn't all the infoboxes in Category:Political party infobox templates by country be merged into Infobox political party? Please discuss at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Infoboxes. Andy Mabbett (User: Pigsonthewing ); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 11:31, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

FAR
nominated Adriaen van der Donck for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  03:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced living people articles bot
Okip  00:05, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Lame Duck
I have a question for editors who are into politics. To make note that someone is a "lame duck"--is that somehow a smear on that person? In other words, if I wrote any of the following sentences:


 * The passage of the 22nd Amendment made Herbert Hoover the last four-month lame duck president.
 * While Jimmy Carter had been unsuccessful in negotiating for the hostages' release for an entire year, once he became a lame duck he was able to get negotiations with the Iranian government moving along.
 * By opting to not run for re-election to a second term, but rather, seeking the state's open Senate seat, Florida Governor Charlie Crist became a premature lame duck, risking the possibility of facing an even more intransigent state legislature.
 * Ray Nagin is the lame duck mayor of New Orleans.

am I in any way putting these individuals down, implying some criticism of them, or anything like that? 65.80.246.160 (talk) 18:46, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * 'Lame duck' is an American term for an incumbent president in his final term, with waning power and influence (Brewer's Politics). I guess it must apply to other elected offices as well. Using the term outside this kind of context may be seen as derogatory. Remember that Wikipedia is not a place for original comment and take particular care when writing about living persons.--Pondle (talk) 19:39, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You are correct, and yes, it does apply to holders of other elected offices as well. Thank you for your kind input, but I really need some perspective from some Americans who are familiar with the normal usage of this term. 65.80.246.160 (talk) 20:49, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Harry S. Truman featured article review
nominated Harry S. Truman for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Geschichte (talk) 17:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Community property
Please see Talk:Community property (a disambiguation page) for a discussion of whether there is a primary topic for this term; and if so, whether it is Community property (marriage) or Public property. 20:01, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Cyber Rights
I have started a peer review on the article Cyber Rights, which was recently promoted to Good Article quality status. Feel free to provide feedback, at Peer review/Cyber Rights/archive1. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 17:41, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Notification regarding Wikipedia-Books
As detailed in last week's Signpost, WildBot has been patrolling Wikipedia-Books and searched for various problems in them, such as books having duplicate articles or containing redirects. WikiProject Wikipedia-Books is in the process of cleaning them up, but help would be appreciated. For this project, the following books have problems:


 * Book:U.S. Presidential Elections (problems)

The problem reports explain in details what exactly are the problems, why they are problems, and how to fix them. This way anyone can fix them even if they aren't familiar with books. If you don't see something that looks like this, then all problems have been fixed. (Please strike articles from this list as the problems get fixed.)

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Missing topics
I've updated my list of missing politics topics - Skysmith (talk) 13:53, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Article for Deletion
The following AfD may be of interest to editors here: Articles for deletion/Sessions of the United States Supreme Court -Rrius (talk) 01:54, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

FAR
nominated Marshall Plan for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dana boomer (talk) 15:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Curvilinear Disparity
Hello, I have just joined the WikiProject Politics group. The first article which I have contributed is about John D. May's "Law of Curvilinear Disparity". It is a theory which posits that rank and file members of a political party tend to be more ideologically radical than both the party elite and ordinary voters. If somebody here would like to review it, I would be very grateful. I have asked over on the main feedback page but they seem to be very busy so if somebody here got the chance I could remove the notice over there afterwards. Kind Regards, Eoinjones (talk) 18:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Can you help with a triple DYK nomination?
I'm expanding the article on John Evans Brown, and it would be great if others could chip in and you'll get DYK credits in return. Please see the talk page - there are some good sources listed that can be worked in.

The aim is to submit a triple DYK about Brown and his three brothers in law that were all MPs in the New Zealand Parliament. Two of the articles are new (from today and yesterday), whereas the page on Garrick has been around for a few weeks. My suggested DYK submission is:


 * ... that the New Zealand Members of Parliament Francis James Garrick, John Thomas Peacock, John Evans Brown and Henry Richard Webb were brothers in law?  Schwede 66  06:21, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


 * All sorted. Will be on the homepage as a DYK on 23 April 2010 (today) starting at 6 pm (NZ time) tonight 24 April 2010 (tomorrow) starting at 4 am (NZ time). They've just switched from displaying DYKs from 6 hours to 8 hours, as the queue of applications was getting a bit short.  Schwede 66  01:18, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

The Political Cesspool
The Political Cesspool has been nominated as a Featured Article. The discussion is here. Feel free to contribute. Stonemason89 (talk) 00:42, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Tony Benn
A request has been made for the article Tony Benn to be peer reviwed at WP:Peer review/Tony Benn/archive1. Any comments welcome. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 02:06, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Iron Law of Institutions - AfD?
I have doubts this concept is notable, see Talk:Iron Law of Institutions. Would there be a second for an AfD motion? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 16:52, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

FA Review for Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India
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FAR
nominated Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Why was Nasty Party deleted
I do not understand why Nasty Party was deleted it had sources to support the article .,, Dwanyewest (talk) 17:23, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi to all the Wikiproject Politics members
There's a dying wikiproject called WikiProject Governments of Canada and I have a proposal to turn that Wikiproject into Wikiproject:Canadian Politics (Just like WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom). I know that some of you guys would be interested in starting one. I would love to here your thoughts. The proposal disccusion is here WikiProject Council/Proposals/Canadian Politics. --Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 04:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

WP:POLITICIAN
I've made a proposal for a slight change to the criteria at WP:POLITICIAN in order to more clearly define "sub-national" entity. I'd appreciate input. Valenciano (talk) 08:41, 10 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Therefore, notable people would hypothetically (don't know if these cities have mayors or aldermen or council members or chancellors) include the 1968-1972 mayor of Groningen, Netherlands, the 1995-2000 mayor of Jackson, Tennessee, USA, 1960-1968 alderman of Toronto. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 23:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Maths as a way to decide
There is often a debate on what to include and what not to include. With some articles, opponents of the politician will want negative information and supporters of the politician will want only positive information. They often use other excuses to justify their POV.

How about maths? We can use that to assess things. If the event is deemed 0.5% of the person's biography and the article is 40kb (40,000 bytes) then 200 bytes is the maximum space allowed. Since English or other language can be variable, a 1.99x factor could be used so that the absolute maximum is 399 bytes. If it cannot be said in 399 bytes, either the editor is too verbose or too much space is given to the topic.

There could also be a comparison so that any fact can be compared with another fact and, if less relevant, only the more relevant information stays. For example, which is more important, listing the person's university or that he supported an obscure law. Probably the former. An obscure law versus an even more obscure law and the more obscure one takes the lowest priority.

Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 23:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

This motion is approved in theory? Better written version below.

Maths considerations are pertinent in biographical articles. For assessment, if an event is deemed 0.5% of the person's biography and the article is 40kb (40,000 bytes) then 200 bytes is the maximum space allowed, with some leeway to have slightly more or less than this length.

It is also valid that there be a comparison of any fact/edit with another fact/edit. More relevant facts/edits have priority in retention that less relevant facts/edits.

Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 17:14, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Assessment request for Sentinels of the Republic
Apologies if this request should be listed elsewhere - if so, I missed it... _Wormcast (talk) 22:56, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Portal:Terrorism at peer review
A new portal Portal:Terrorism is now up for portal peer review, the review page is at Portal peer review/Terrorism/archive1. I put a bit of work into this and feedback would be appreciated prior to featured portal candidacy. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 14:58, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons
The WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons (UBLPs) aims to reduce the number of unreferenced biographical articles to under 30,000 by June 1, primarily by enabling WikiProjects to easily identify UBLP articles in their project's scope. There were over 52,000 unreferenced BLPs in January 2010 and this has been reduced to 32,665 as of May 16. A bot is now running daily to compile a list of all articles that are in both Category:All unreferenced BLPs and have been tagged by a WikiProject. Note that the bot does NOT place unreferenced tags or assign articles to projects - this has been done by others previously - it just compiles a list.

Your Project's list can be found at WikiProject Politics/Unreferenced BLPs. As of May 17 you have approximately 44 articles to be referenced, however WikiProject Biography/Politics and government/Unreferenced BLPs has just under 3000 articles listed. The list of all other WikiProject UBLPs can be found at WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons/WikiProjects.

Your assistance in reviewing and referencing these articles is greatly appreciated. If you have any questions, please don't hestitate to ask either at WT:URBLP or at my talk page. Thanks, The-Pope (talk) 17:13, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Council/Proposals/Social movements
Editors here may be interested in this new proposal. Please don't hesitate to comment. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 17:08, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Help Needed
Hi. I need everyone to help me improve another article about Egyptian Shura Council election that are being held today. thank you -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 23:20, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Italian election maps
Most of the Italian elections have maps showing which party won which province. However, in many cases, the legends of the maps are misleading or incomplete. I've shown the 1979 map at right to illustrate the problem, since this is one of the worst.

The part that says " Red denotes those with a Communist plurality" is clear.

However, the part that says " White denotes provinces with a Christian Democratic plurality" is just terrible. First of all, the word "White" is shown in yellow, not in white. And second, the Christian Democratic provinces are not colored in white at all, but in light gray.

And the part that says " Gray denotes those with an Autonomist plurality" is no good either. First of all, the shade of gray that the word "Gray" is in is closest to the color of the Christian Democratic provinces. Second, the regional parties are shown on the map in two different shades of gray and one of green. None of the parties listed in the results at Italian general election, 1979 is identified there as "Autonomist". Rather, "SVP" as labeled on the map corresponds to the South Tyrolean People's Party and should be labeled as such; "UV" as labeled on the map corresponds to the Valdotanian Union and should be labeled as such; and I don't even know what "ApT" stands for, although I assume it's something "per Trieste" because Trieste is where the party won.

This map at Italian general election, 1979 has similar problems to maps in other Italian election infoboxes, albeit more of them. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:21, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Relevant AFD discussion, California politician
Relevant AFD discussion, on a California lawyer and politician. Please see Articles for deletion/Kenneth Dickson (2nd nomination). Thank you for your time. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 12:06, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Kenneth Dickson

Featured portal candidate - Portal:Terrorism
This portal is currently being considered for Featured Portal status. Comments would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Terrorism. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 01:10, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Portal:Terrorism

Article request
Can an editor create an article of Stefan Kaufmann (politician), who is a German MP. Article on de.wiki at Stefan Kaufmann (Politiker) if anyone can translate. Mjroots (talk) 12:50, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

new related WikiProject: United States Public Policy
Hi everyone! I want to invite anyone who's active here and has an interest in American public policy to join WikiProject United States Public Policy, which is just starting up. We've got some cool things planned, including working with students and their professors for several public policy courses.--Sross (Public Policy) (talk) 14:08, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Titles in Australian English
User:Afterwriting is trying to assert at Prime Minister of Australia that in Australian English "prime minister" when used before a name is not capitalised and is not even a title. Both of these are nonsense, but he is attempting to take advantage of the fact that I'm not Australian, as he has done before, to impose his will. Please help. -Rrius (talk) 12:05, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Proposing section expansion for Rick Scott article
The article Rick Scott (businessman) currently has a one-sentence section about the 2010 Florida gubernatorial campaign, in which Scott is a leading candidate. I have written a slightly longer replacement section, currently in my user space here. I haven't added it yet because I have a potential COI (I have a financial relationship to Rick Scott). That said, I think what I've written is neutral and significant and would help anyone who has just heard of him now because of the campaign. Please feel free to weigh in on the article's Talk page, or move it over if you agree it woud improve the existing article. Thank you. Thirteenth Florida (talk) 22:07, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Village pump post about Zogby polling
You folks might be interested in this: Village pump (miscellaneous). Fences &amp;  Windows  02:20, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Relevant AFD
Please see Articles for deletion/Scott Ashjian. -- Cirt (talk) 16:12, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Assessment

 * I have requested a peer review Peer_review/International_Court_of_Justice_advisory_opinion_on_Kosovo%27s_declaration_of_independence/archive1, and would appreciate any and all help.Lihaas (talk) 12:47, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

There are
A vast number of categories that cold be tagged by this project that have not been done so - any wikignomes with a penchant for tagging categories? There is a great field of untouched category talk pages out there for someone.... (or some bot perhaps) SatuSuro 03:49, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Max Weber - Featured article review
nominated Max Weber for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Tom B (talk) 18:40, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Stalking
The section "Politics behind stalking laws and civil liberties" in the Stalking article relates directly to politics, and might be of interest to this project. Is anyone interested in working on editing this for NPOV? -- The Anome (talk) 15:52, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

George Washington
A Good Article review has started on George Washington. It is on hold for seven days to allow issues raised on Talk:George Washington/GA3 to be addressed.  SilkTork  *YES! 23:55, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Kathie Glass
She's the libertarian candidate for Texas governor. Do folks think this person is notable per WP:POLITICIAN or WP:GNG? There are a few references out there, but I'm not sure if it's sufficient to pass GNG. Should I take the article to AfD? Thanks, P. D. Cook  Talk to me! 18:38, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

List of sovereign states
There is currently a discussion taking place here over how states are listed on List of sovereign states. Any input from members of this project is welcome. TDL (talk) 21:13, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Additions to Governor Pages
Tiller54 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tiller54 has been adding sections relating to governors being rated "most corrupt" or "worst." I was wondering what out response should be? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qizix (talk • contribs) 23:04, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Assistance needed with Eastern Europe
The Eastern Europe article is fraught with geopolitical errors, mislabels and slanted facts as if much of it was written by ultraconservatives during the Cold War from an ethnocentric position. If you agree with that Central Europe is more than a backwards ex-Soviet satellite, please assist in rewording/correcting the article lead and body. Gregorik (talk) 17:34, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Relevant AFD - Rob Miller (South Carolina politician)
AFD discussion, is at Articles for deletion/Rob Miller (South Carolina politician) (2nd nomination). Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 22:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Article page = Rob Miller (South Carolina politician)

FAR notice Claudius
nominated Claudius for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. -- Cirt (talk) 15:15, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Libertarian Consensus
There is an on-going and heated debate about libertarianism. Some of the most relevant information can be found at ANI here. It has been proposed that an RfC be reopened and it has been suggested that consensus was formed and there is no need to open up the libertarian RfC again. I'm not involved in content with this, I'm trying to participate in mediation on the issues and would like to invite any interested project members to add their thoughts to this political discussion. Thanks in advance.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 09:12, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Portal:Social movements
I've made a start on a Social movements portal. Your input is welcome... Johnfos (talk) 06:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Politics articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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Major proposed overhaul of Sea of Japan naming dispute
The article Sea of Japan naming dispute has been under full protection for about 1 month due to an edit war that occurred in August. Discussion on the talk page stalled at the end of August, and there are not many active participants on that page. Since that time, I have been working on a wholly new draft to fix, as best as I could, many of the numerous problems on the article. Since this article falls within the purview of this Wikiproject, I am inviting members to come participate in the discussion on the talk page at Sea of Japan naming dispute, which explains the current articles deficiencies (poor sources, disorganized, etc.) and what I have done to fix them. In that section you will find a link to the draft version in my user space. While this article and its subject are clearly a contentious matter, I sincerely believe that we can create a useful and NPOV article about the subject through the careful involvement of more editors. Thank you for any help you can provide. Qwyrxian (talk) 10:33, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Portal:Politics is in danger of losing its featured status
See Portal talk:Politics – the portal has not been properly maintained for well over a year, and will probably lose its star unless it's improved soon. BencherliteTalk 12:30, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

proposal over at 'radical left' article
There is a proposal I've started over at Radical left wherein I've definitively stated that "Radical Left" is what anarchists, left-communists, militant communists, militant socialists etc etc define themselves as in self-description, and not "far left". As you can see if you go to the link, I go into the reasons, but there's a grand total of 3 people currently involved in the discussion, and I need input from this WikiProject and other similar ones to provide me with the backup I need to push the proposal through. Please join in and offer your viewpoints. Thanks. Kikodawgzzz (talk) 01:54, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center
Hi, could anyone please look at the new article created by a new user, National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center please.

I don't know anything about the topic, hence asking here. Cheers!  Chzz  ► 03:41, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Realpolitik article
Hi,

This article needs serious work, both developing existing content and adding new stuff to fill it out. But I'm lazy and not actually a member of the project. So this is just my two cents :) Racooon (talk) 09:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Kengir uprising FAR
nominated Kengir uprising for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. JJ98 (Talk) 06:31, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

RFC: Should there be a separate article called Targeted killing
Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 22:24, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ongoing Request for Comment, at Talk:Assassination.
 * New comments should go all the way to the bottom, below subsection, Discussion break.

Gang of Seven unassessed article is featured on BBC News today 3 Nov 2010
This article is in poor shape and needs to be reviewed by knowledgeable editors. Veriss (talk) 11:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Eretz Yisrael Shelanu
Comments would be welcomed on the talk page of this article regarding its place in the political spectrum, as well as some eyes in general due to the recent arrival of some sockpuppeteers. It is currently fully protected for a week, but no doubt they will be back after it is lifted. Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  20:46, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

FAR for Gunpowder Plot
nominated Gunpowder Plot for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 16:42, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing
I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 20:06, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case
I recently wrote this article mostly from scratch (it was previously a redirect) and it's definitely within the scope of this project. I'd like for it to receive a rating on this project's importance and quality scale, but I'm not sure how one goes about requesting that. Can anyone offer some advice about how to have the article assessed by this project? --Captain Occam (talk) 10:09, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Infobox box consensus needed
There is a long running dispute regarding inclusion of US political candidates photos, names and results in election infoboxes. Examples include here, here, here, this unsuccessful mediation attempt, this discussion which began as far back as March, a number of discussions at this Wikiproject and many other articles. I would really like to end the fights over this and establish some type of guidelines as to whether to include a candidate or not. Personally, I want to include all active, ballot-listed candidates. the infobox can include up to 6 candidates and in almost every election this is more than the number of ballot listed candidates. The infobox, in my view, should be a reflection of the election itself and not just about the winners. Another view is to include more than the top two candidates in elections where the other candidates were within the margin of vote difference, like in the Illinois Senate and Governor's races this year. Others have said that no candidate should be included unless they receive 5% of the vote in the election and/or significant polling above 5%. I am against the polling because it often highly partisan and usually excludes third party candidates, even ones who garner a significant amount of votes. For example, almost no polls included Tom Clements in polling, but he ended up garnering more than 9% of the final vote in the 2010 South Carolina senatorial election. I would really appreciate if we can get help with this.--TM 16:22, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Project merge
FYI (since this is a parent project): I've proposed merging WikiProject Voting systems into WikiProject Elections and Referendums (see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Voting_systems). Rd232 talk 18:07, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Move request for Foreign relations of the Palestinian National Authority
It has been proposed that Foreign relations of the Palestinian National Authority be renamed and moved. Please contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia:Requested moves.  Night w   11:45, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

List of states with limited recognition at FLRC
nominated List of states with limited recognition for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.  Night w   15:30, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

The City of God, City of Man and Earthly City
A search for civitas terrena reveals that two pages (History of political thinking and Political philosophy) equate the ideas of the City of Man and the civitas terrena in Augustine. To the best of my knowledge (have just completed a class in Augustine and read the entirety of City of God) this is an error. The City of Man refers to those who are outside of the City of God, whereas the civitas terrena is the earthly city in which the City of God and the City of Man are mingled together during this life. However, I do not know what Latin phrase Augustine used for City of Man (my Latin is poor). Can I get a subject matter expert to confirm this? Muni Beduhin (talk) 16:14, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Welfare Culture
“Welfare culture” tackles one of the most central controversies of government aid, which has yet to be explored in any substantial way on any welfare-related entry. In fact, the very limited exploration of welfare controversies on welfare related pages makes it difficult to include my information on anything but a new entry. Since this concept is rather complex with an elaborate history that varies across each nation, it is probably presented best as a separate article. Additionally, this WikiProject has asked for entries related to political culture.

DJL5rice (talk) 19:33, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Relevant AFD: Santorum
Please see Articles for deletion/Santorum (sexual neologism). -- Cirt (talk) 13:14, 27 December 2010 (UTC)