Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portugal/Archive 2

portuguese philosophers
It seems from the articles themselves that Henry Simpson (economist) and Antonio de Macedo (author and filmaker) have no claims to the category of "Portuguese philosophers". Please advise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.180.211.244 (talk) 05:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

List of Portuguese monarchs nominated at FLRC
nominated List of Portuguese monarchs for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.--Crzycheetah 05:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Madeira
The African country of Madeira is listed in the AfricaProject template as a workgroup; however, it creates categories in the WikiProject Portugal as a workgroup. See Category:WikiProject Portugal work groups and Category:WikiProject Portugal. Should the WikiProject Portugal template be changed to add Madeira as a work group? Prapsnot (talk) 05:13, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Probable copyright violation by translation
I recently finished copyediting Portuguese heraldry, correcting mostly what appeared to be errors in translation (presumably from Portuguese) due to literal translation and/or unfamiliarity with English idiom. Then I went to look at the other language pages – only Spanish and Portuguese exist – in the hope of checking up some unclear expressions. Although I can't really speak Spanish or even approximately Portuguese, I can make enough sense out of both of them for some basics. I was shocked to find that the Portuguese article is only about 210 words long, and the entire text of the Spanish article is "La heráldica portuguesa se ha usado desde el siglo XII", i.e., "Portuguese heraldry has been used since the 12th century"; while the English article amounts to
 * Prose size (text only): 80 kB (13963 words) "readable prose size"

So where did the rest come from? Especially since it was evidently not written in English by a fluent speaker of English. The likeliest answer is that it was translated from a detailed source in Portuguese, or possibly Spanish -- probably one of the listed References -- by someone who was not fluent in English, and posted without attribution: in other words, plagiarized, and a probable copyright violation.

The great bulk of the article was added by one or more anonymous editors from 26 August 2015 to 11 January 2016. The editor may have changed the wording enough to avoid copyvio, but without checking it's impossible to tell; and as I said, my Ibero-Romance language abilities are nowhere near up to the task.

I posted this question originally at Talk:Portuguese heraldry, then (somewhat edited) at the Teahouse. There was some discussion at the Teahouse, but no resolution, and the post has been archived to Teahouse/Questions/Archive_466.

Please me to discuss.

--Thnidu (talk) 05:29, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * My understanding of content from Wikipedia PT has always been that most of the Portuguese hobbyists and nationalists prefer to copy directly from sources without attribution. You may actually discover that content was copied DIRECTLY from another website (such as the parish or municipal websites). This obviously makes it harder for translations to other idioms. The Wikipedia template about "translating from corresponding PT Wikipedia source" has always bothered me in that respect. In the translation process, I usually look for attributable sources supporting PT Wikipedia edits (in my case, since they are articles about architecture or geography, I reference SIPA or "Património"). Otherwise, I prefer not to translate from corresponding Wiki site without verifiable sources. It is a "wild west" on PT for the most part, most should not be discouraged about direct translation, but should follow-up their translations with verifiable sources. ruben jc ZEORYMER (talk) 10:14, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, that's discouraging, but at least now I know. Thanks for that. But this was not translated from the pt.wiki article, which is only about 2% its length. It might have been translated sentence by sentence from some page(s) on the website cited there under References (at a dead link; I just updated it with pt template citar web + arquivourl=), but that's beyond me to check, and probably too much even for a fluent pt/en bilingual to undertake.
 * (By the way, the way to use Template: ping is like this:  .)
 * Boa noite! --Thnidu (talk) 05:52, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey and, I noticed it too when i translated alot of the Castles of portugal articles from list of castles in portugal. The idioms don't translate well. Winterysteppe (talk) 21:49, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, Portuguese tends to be very "flowery" in the manner of its translation. That is why, even as content can be literally translated, it needs to be interpreted, which implies an understanding of the cultural significance of the terms and also of what can be, or should, be translated. ruben jc ZEORYMER (talk) 21:58, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Auto-assessment of article classes
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Media upload of images from Guinea-Bissau and Senegal
Dear project members,

I would like to draw your attention to a media upload that may be of relevance to your project. The African Studies Center, Leiden University, donated 756 images made by Roel Coutinho, a Dutch MD working in Guinea-Bissau and Senegal between 1973 and 1974. The images show aspects of daily life such as food preparation, festivities and school and hospital buildings, among other things. The metadata (including Portuguese captions) were prepared by Michele Portatadino, the upload was done by Hans Muller using the GWToolset.

Kind regards, AWossink (talk) 11:56, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

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Please link Freguesia (Portugal)

 * If you write civil parish link Freguesia (Portugal). Xx236 (talk) 12:56, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

1936 Naval Revolt (Portugal)
Recently I have been working on the article 1936 Naval Revolt (Portugal). By looking at its Portuguese equivalent, I was able to come up with another source:. Unfortunately, it's in Portuguease, a language I do not know. Is there anyone part of WikiProject Portugal who would be willing to help me translate and comprehend this document? If so, where could I reach them? Indy beetle (talk) 13:49, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The article in question is not a article, at all, rather a excerpt from the official governmental diary (Diário do Governo), similar to the British Hansard. What might be associated with the events of the "revolt" is the decree law passed by the Government-in-Coucnil to the King. It refers to authorizing the Ministry of the Navy to "fire" or retire officers involved in the events on the 8 September 1936, onboard the Afonso de Albuquerque and Dão. Further, the dispatch suggests that this would not impede applying criminal sanctions to those involved, but readmitted those involved in prooving their military obligation, resisting the insubordination and using all their force to dominate the enemy. Also, article 3 suggested that others could be transfered to the reserves by their own request. The act entered in to vigor immediately on the date published. The remaining references refer to accounting practices within continental Portugal and colonies, the creation of a customshouse in Rebordelo and transfer of funds. I can translate it (Decreto-lei 26:995) verbatim if you would like. ruben jc ZEORYMER (talk) 13:29, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

About Lusa news agency and Lusa (Portuguese news agency)
Bom dias senhors e senhoras - that's all I know in Portuguese, and I would probably mispronounce it. It appears there a two different articles about the same subject. See http://www.lusa.pt What do you think about this? Pedro Austrália aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:55, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Yup, sounds like a duplication problem that needs to be remedied. I will attempt to resolve this today. ruben jc ZEORYMER (talk) 13:36, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to Women in Food and Drink editathon
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Help building Cannabis in Portugal?
I started this short stub months ago, but it hasn't gotten momentum yet. Anyone able to help out by better covering the issues around decriminalization and cannabis, cannabis economy, etc. of Portugal? Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 21:33, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Help with Almada Fórum
Hey folks! I recently stumbled upon the page Almada Fórum which appears to be "the third shopping center in Portugal". It has no references and has been tagged as an orphan for 7 years. Any chance someone could take a look, maybe find a source, and maybe even de-orphan it? I'd be eternally grateful! Thanks a bunch! Happy editing! Ajpolino (talk) 05:36, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * You might want to start with the Portuguese-language article, pt:Almada Forum. It has a substantial infobox, six references, and solves the mystery of the lede: it's the third-largest shopping center in Portugal as of that writing. Elizium23 (talk) 05:51, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick response! Any chance someone here might be able to take that task upon themselves? I can't read Portuguese so I could try to stumble my way through with Google translate, but if someone who can read pt:Almada Forum, could take a crack at improving the article, I'm sure they'd do far better than I could. Cheers! Ajpolino (talk) 00:33, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages
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Category:Order of the Colonial Empire has been nominated for discussion
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Question about Portuguese newspapers
Hi, I'm trying to find out which newspapers in Portugal are considered the newspapers of record, the equivalent of The Times, The Washington Post or Le Figaro. Our article, Newspaper of record, lists Diario de Noticias for Portugal. Is that correct? It's apparently in a tabloid format, but is it tabloid journalism? Any pointers would be very helpful. SarahSV (talk) 18:59, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Courrier International describes it as on par with the other portuguese newspaper of record, Público, so I think you can say that, yes. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 23:12, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


 * , thank you for this information. SarahSV (talk) 03:47, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * , I found Newspaper of record to be unwieldly, so I split the huge table by initials. Since I'm also French, I added Libération. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 23:46, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Cão de Gado Transmontano
Could somebody do the IPA on the name of this dog? Please. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 17:40, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Cozido → Cozido à portuguesa move discussion
Please come participate in the discussion to determine if this article should be renamed. Thank you. --Epulum (talk) 06:55, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Foreign language redirects to Portugal
I have nominated about 30 foreign-language (i.e. not Portuguese or English) redirects to the Portugal article for deletion/discussion at Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 April 27. You are invited to participate in the linked discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 03:20, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Use of Geobox vs Infobox for buildings
There is a proposal about the use of geobox vs infobox for buildings that this WikiProject may be interested in. infobox religious building is part of this infobox series, and its geobox counterpart has been used mostly for Portuguese buildings; see Category:Geobox usage tracking for building type. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:00, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

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Bust of Cristiano Ronaldo
I invite editors to assist with expanding the article about the recently unveiled Bust of Cristiano Ronaldo. There are additional sources shared on the article's talk page. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:37, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅: Draft:Bust of Cristiano Ronaldo. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:44, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

I have submitted a request to have the article's deletion overturned. I invite editors to review Draft:Bust of Cristiano Ronaldo, then share their thoughts at Deletion review/Log/2017 June 22. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:47, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Diário de Lisboa
This is currently the top-cited missing 'journal' in WP:JCW/MIS. While it's not an academic journal, it does seem like something that could possibly have an article on Wikipedia.

Now I don't speak Portugese, but pt:Diário de Lisboa exists, and Google reveals plenty of sources. If someone could create this entry, that would be amazing!

Thanks in advance! Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:10, 18 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, we should have it. It was an important newspaper her until the 1990s, I bought it once in a while. I'll put it on my to-do list, but I hope someone gets to it first, as my to-dos are not for now, but for one of those years when I'll get into creating (mostly) Portuguese stuff. - Nabla (talk) 22:13, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Bust of Cristiano Ronaldo
Greetings, project members. The article Bust of Cristiano Ronaldo was deleted last year, but I've resurrected the topic in the form of Draft:Bust of Cristiano Ronaldo, since the artist has created a second bust depicting Ronaldo. I invite WikiProject participants to either make further improvements to the draft, or contribute to this discussion, where I've pinged all editors who were involved in last year's deletion and merge discussions. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:04, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 06:25, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Update: The article was redirected. I still invite project members to weigh in on this discussion: Talk:Cristiano_Ronaldo_International_Airport. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 06:44, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject
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Welcome template
Hi. I've noticed that Welcome-pt was related to WikiProject Ports and was unused. Therefore, I've rewritten it to be a Portuguese welcome template. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 03:30, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

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Nascent gender-neutral language approach in Romance languages
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RfC on election/referendum naming format
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Women in Red focus
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Map needs to be fixed
I ran across Morais (Macedo de Cavaleiros), and the map doesn’t show up on the page. I can’t figure out what needs to be done, so I thought I’d ask here if someone can fix it. It should be simple, but nothing is simple for me today. Thanks! — Gorthian (talk) 03:28, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Zambujal
Can someone tell me the source of the statement 'The settlers, who may have been from the peninsula but perhaps with Eastern Mediterranean contacts' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:F485:7000:BD50:B1E6:A563:6D7A (talk) 12:07, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

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John Doe Filho
Your feedback would be appreciated at the template discussion Template talk:Portuguese name, regarding extending the template to clarify to readers of en-wiki, that a person with the Filho-suffix appended to his name is not "Mister Filho". Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 03:37, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Portuguese people
Hi, note there is currently a content dispute on Portuguese people and the article has been semi protected for a day - See Talk:Portuguese_people &mdash; Regards KylieTastic (talk) 17:01, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Category:Rulers of the Kingdom of Kongo has been nominated for merging to
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Senhora do Verde
Please add a source.Xx236 (talk) 11:35, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Soure train crash
I've started an article on the collision and derailment of a high-speed passenger train at Soure, Portugal. Members of this WP may be able to expand it from the GPIAAF source used in the article. Mjroots (talk) 18:17, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Article importance grading scheme
The idea that Luis Figo can, despite his undoubted skills, be considered of High importance whereas Coimbra is ranked of Mid importance strikes me as ridiculous. This seems to be based on a short-term view. A longer term view is that in 100 years, when people will hopefully still be reading Wikipedia, no one will know or care who Figo was whereas Coimbra, with its historical university, will still be very important.Roundtheworld (talk) 17:49, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

FLRC for List of presidents of Portugal
I have nominated List of presidents of Portugal for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.--Jarodalien (talk) 02:43, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:José António Falcão § BLP and other problems
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:José António Falcão § BLP and other problems. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 01:09, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Manuel Carmo
This BLP of an artist needs a lot of work. Bearian (talk) 00:40, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Page for the Ministry of Science, Technology and Higher Education is litterally one sentace long
Hi, I've noticed that the page for a Portuegues government ministry (Ministry of Science, Technology and Higher Education) is a single sentence long. This seems to me to be a high importance page in need of improvement from someone from this Wikiproject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by El komodos drago (talk • contribs) 18:29, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Did I really not sign that? My apologies. ~ El D. (talk to me) 19:43, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Proposed new category
Bom Dia! Any objection if I start a new category "Portuguese political prisoners under the Estado Novo"? Thanks Roundtheworld (talk) 12:42, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikivoyage
Olá, amigos! Wikivoyage's coverage of Portugal is a bit spotty. I believe that good travel information will be key in helping the country's recovery once we overcome the pandemic. As of now, Portugal has one Star status article, Caldas da Rainha. I believe that we can help improve cities such as Lisbon or Porto to Star status. Many other places can be improved to Guide status (or better) with a bit of effort: Braga, Coimbra, Peneda-Gerês National Park, etc. If you would like to help, please see the following for guidance: Naturally, you are welcome to contribute to articles beyond Portugal, as piques your interest. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 18:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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António Pires Veloso - photo
Hello, I have started an article on this post-Carnation era general and have been told by the Military History project that with an image, it will become C-class. There doesn't seem to be public domain images on the foreign versions of the page, nor a photograph of his bust on Commons. I have been alerted to this video where the conditions say that RTP can grant a license for non-commercial educational use when contacted by a Portuguese citizen. So first, is anyone familiar with the law and whether this would allow the use of a screenshot on Wikipedia? And second, could anyone obtain this license and put the image on the page?

If this is not allowed on Wikipedia, the second option would be to take a photograph of the bust at the Praca da República in Porto, if anyone lives in the area.

Thank you for your cooperation and I look forward to speaking soon. Unknown Temptation (talk) 18:48, 27 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I don't think that RTP licence would be good enough. WP:IUPC states: "Note that images that are licensed for use only on Wikipedia, or only for non-commercial or educational use, or under a license that doesn't allow for the creation of modified/derived works, are unsuitable." I suppose you have to find somewhere an image with explicitly freer usage policy. (But I don't know how it works exactly, as I've never done it.) Or visit Porto and photograph the bust! LongLivePortugal (talk) 23:00, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clearing up about the rights to the video. As Pires Veloso was a public figure, there likely are free photos, just like we have free photos of about every other prominent person on this encyclopedia. However, due to my limited connections and language abilities, I will not be the one who finds them. I have visited Porto, yet I am unfamiliar with that park. Current issues mean I am unlikely to go abroad any time soon. I would be grateful if in the spirit of cooperation there might be a user on this board who lives nearby. Unknown Temptation (talk) 16:31, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Women in Red Europe contest
After successfully completing our Asia and Africa contests over the past six months, we now welcome contributions to our Women in Europe contest which runs for three separate months from April to June 2021. To qualify for the contest, articles have to contain at least 160 words or 1,000 characters of running text and participants need to be members of Women in Red. We look forward to lots of new biographies of women from Portugal.--Ipigott (talk) 06:29, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Surnames question
I have a question on Portuguese naming system and an article I just created: Patrícia Gouveia. Her full name is "Patricia Alexandra Carvalho Ferreira Sousa Gouveia", which of these name(s) would be the maternal surname, and which name(s) the paternal surname? The last 4 names all looks like surnames to me, but she seems to be referred to as Gouveia (which means that would be the paternal surname). I want to try and use Template:Portuguese name correctly which is why I ask. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:20, 6 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, all last four names are surnames. Common practice in Portugal, when parents choose to give the child four names instead of two, would be that the first two come from the mother and the last two from the father (and, within each such pair, the first one would come from the grandmother and the second one from the grandfather). Thus, for purposes of the template, I believe it should state that the maternal name is Ferreira and the paternal one is Gouveia (assuming that she either is not married or did not take her husband's surname in marriage, meaning all such names are truly 'biological'). This is explained in Portuguese name.
 * I must say, now that you've drawn my attention to it, that I find the template to be quite incomplete, as it does not allow for any fields containing grandmothers' surnames in case they are passed down to the child (in this case, Carvalho and Sousa) or for any field containing the husband's surname, in cases where it occurs. Instead, it focuses on the possibility of generational suffixes, such as 'Filho' and 'Neto', which are so rare (compared to the previous two much more common events) that even I didn't know it was possible! I can't understand.
 * Finally, please note that her first name is Patrícia, not Patricia. Please don't forget to correct that in her full name on the article. LongLivePortugal (talk) 17:08, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks . One last question: looking at Neide Simões (another article I created), her fullname is "Neide Marina Fidalgo Alves Mateus Simões". So does that mean that Alves is her maternal surname, and Simões is her paternal surname (assuming that all names are "biological" as you defined it above)? Sorry for all the questions, if the template was implemented and documented for this scenario, then I would be using that documentation rather than asking here. Joseph2302</b> (talk) 10:48, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * As an aside, if anyone one in this project knows how to update templates, it would be good to get the scenarios for people with four surnames added to Template:Portuguese name. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 10:48, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, according to common practice, her maternal surname would be Alves. Please note that this is just common practice, and I can't guarantee that it is the case with every single person, as I believe parents can legally choose a different order. Furthermore, in general, if you find someone with exactly three surnames (even if you assume they are all 'biological'), you can't know whether two come from the father and one from the mother, or vice-versa. Finally, of course any one or two of the existing surnames (usually at the end, but not necessarily I believe) may come from the person's husband or wife (although uncommon, husbands can also take their wives' surnames). So, now that I think about it, perhaps the template should even be omitted in cases where you can't find any sources telling us the parents' and spouse's surnames, so we don't risk writing here any false information. What do you think?
 * As for the template, it definitely does need change, in order to account for all these issues. Do you know where we can find out how to do that? LongLivePortugal (talk) 11:44, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

FAR for Flag of Portugal
I have nominated Flag of Portugal for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t · c)  buidhe  04:42, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikivoyage:Portugal Expedition
Olá, amigos! Wikipedia's sister project Wikivoyage just launched Wikivoyage:Portugal Expedition, which seeks to improve our Portugal-related travel guides. We welcome and invite Wikipedia:Project Portugal members to participate. Feel free to leave any questions at voy:Wikivoyage talk:Portugal Expedition. Obrigado. Nelson Ricardo (talk) 16:34, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Highest railway in Portugal?
If you know the answer, make sure to add it to relevant wiki pages, especially to List of highest railways by country. Thanks! Zach (Talk) 21:18, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I have added it to the list, based on the information provided in the Portuguese-language Wikipedia. :-) LongLivePortugal (talk) 11:19, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Macau
Hello there! I invite you all to please help revive WikiProject Macau. I just recently created six articles related to government-administered awards and many recipients have pages on other language editions of Wikipedia which do not yet have pages in English. There is a considerable amount of articles that need to be created and improved on Macau. I also see much potential for collaboration with the Portuguese, Chinese, and even Cantonese editions, which at times are more thoroughly written in comparison to their English counterparts. Any help will be appreciated. Yinglong999 (talk) 07:04, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Portuguese Empire
Fellow contributors:

Due to the high amount of missing articles and vandalism on the English wikipedia, I have decided to take the initiative and submitted a proposal for a WikiProject dedicated to the Portuguese Empire, similiar in nature to the WikiProject British Empire. I invite anyone who is interested to support the project. Wareno (talk) 20:22, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

FAR for Mozambican War of Independence
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Rhodesian mission in Lisbon Featured article review
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After the election
All the pages on politicians in the last Assembly need to be updated, either to record that the person was not re-elected or was. New articles are needed on the new members who don't yet have a page, although it is perhaps best left until their biographies are posted on parlamento.pt. Roundtheworld (talk) 19:50, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I found a list here, however, you can't choose the XVth legislature in the advanced search yet. Looking further, I found the result of the elections at the Home Office here. With some editing, I got this list (foreign districts are still to be counted) :

(moved and updated at List of deputies of Portugal (XV legislature)) Comte0 (talk) 16:36, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Regards, Comte0 (talk) 22:08, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I have updated the list with pt:Lista de deputados de Portugal (XV Legislatura). I have the feeling the Portuguese articles were created at random. Do you believe we can invoke WP:IAR and create all the articles? Regards, Comte0 (talk) 15:58, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Great work. I will work on the women, as part of my ongoing contribution to WikiProject Women in Red, starting with those that are more than stubs. Roundtheworld (talk) 19:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I created List of deputies of Portugal (XV legislature), it should help in avoiding the orphan banner on your articles. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 16:13, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Request for help with Draft
Hi! After posting on the Teahouse about this draft that I was working on, they gave the advice that I should ask help from the relevant WikiProject. I'm not in any way an expert on the era this person lived in, and I'm not experienced with editing, so maybe you guys could try add some sources to the article (most of the mentions I found on the internet were from books)? Thanks, Vortex (talk) 13:03, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Translation at Nelson Piquet
Hi, I was wondering if someone could confirm at Talk:Nelson Piquet what the English translation of "neguinho" is, as we are not 100% sure. Thanks. SSSB (talk) 19:05, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Two articles
A most bizarre situation has developed involving the pages Battle of Benadir and Battle of Barawa, where for the past four years Somalian nationalists, sockpuppets and unregistered users have persistently sought to rewrite these pages about two minor Portuguese raids on the east African coast into astounding Somalian victories, written in poor English, against all evidence, removing sources and sourced material, despite numerous locks or bans by administrators even. Vandalism inevitably continues once protection wears off, and I thought I'd put this out there because so far almost nobody else has helped to take care of the issue and it's starting to drive me nuts. I already appealed for a permanent lock once but nobody answered my request. Wareno (talk) 06:05, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Draft About Portuguese person
I am not at all experienced with Wikipedia, but i am starting a project to update it in the oral health field. I am a Journalist working in the field of Oral Health and i just posted a draft on a Portuguese worldwide known Dentist. As he is related to Portugal, I tagged your project for review. Thank you MDContributor (talk) 23:08, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Muslim conquest of Spain
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Muslim conquest of Spain that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Super  Ψ   Dro  07:28, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass WPBannerMeta a new custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:55, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Women in Green's 5th Edit-a-thon
<div style="border: 6px solid #2bbf08; background: #FFF; background-color:#FFFFFF; padding: 1ex 1ex 1ex 1.5ex; margin: 0px 0px 1em 1em; font-size: 99%"> Hello WikiProject Portugal:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a  month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2023!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there! Grnrchst (talk) 13:37, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Rita Carmo
This draft has a lot of Portuguese references. I am hoping someone would be willing to have a look at the draft and let me know if the references provided would allow this subject to pass notability. If so, just ping me and I will move it to the mainspace (unless someone else decides to). Cheers! CNMall41 (talk) 05:17, 11 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Boa tarde Rita,
 * Espero que esta mensagem a vá encontrar bem.
 * Chamo-me Rita Almeida e atualmente ocupo o cargo de Comissária das Publicações na Associação Guias de Portugal.
 * Envio esta mensagem no sentido de lhe questionar se é possível eliminar esta página da Wikipedia sobre a nossa Associação. Contem informação desatualizada, como o nosso logótipo e o número de membros, e alguma informação incorreta como a data da sua fundação.
 * Além disso, preferimos que as pessoas procurem saber mais sobre a AGP através do nosso website, que por sua vez inclui uma versão em inglês.
 * Fico à aguardar o seu feedback.
 * Atentamente,
 * Rita. Guias de Portugal (talk) 16:14, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Muslim conquest of Spain
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Muslim conquest of Spain that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:11, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Froid (rapper)
Portuguese speakers are needed to assess the rapper's notability. Could you please look at the article "Froid (rapper)" and post your conclusions to the deletion discussion here: Articles for deletion/Froid (rapper)? --Moscow Connection (talk) 07:02, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Spanish imperial eagle
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Spanish imperial eagle that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Francisco Venegas
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Francisco Venegas that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:18, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Maria I of Portugal
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Maria I of Portugal that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Векочел (talk) 17:26, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Henrique de Bragança
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Henrique de Bragança that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 17:41, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Lusitania
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lusitania that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 18:41, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Mariza expert in the house?
Hi. Really not my field, but if you are Mariza-knowledgeable please see my ramblings at Talk:Transparente (album) in the hope that you can maybe help me, or preferably someone more clued-up than me, with the work of this fine artist. Best wishes to all, cheers DBaK (talk) 18:10, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Feijoada (Brazilian dish)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Feijoada (Brazilian dish) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 14:27, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Pão-por-Deus
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pão-por-Deus that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 13:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)