Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Powderfinger/Archive 1

Userbox
MS Paint sucks. Obviously =P Anybody any good with computer graphics, and willing to make a better one? ~ G1ggy!  Reply 04:53, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:WP_FING_logo.PNG]] What do we think? ~ G1ggy!  Reply 01:25, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I've just used the font they used on the cover of the album (Dream Days) and made it as an SVG image. Tell me if you like it. I can adjust the colour in the BG to be anything (I was thinking a gradient, but that can be easily done, too). -- linca linca  13:57, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Appropriateness of this WikiProject
I don't mean to put a damper on things, but this is a pretty narrow focus for a WikiProject. Wouldn't it be more practical to create a WikiProject for Australian music (for example)? -- Chuq (talk) 04:41, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * More info at WikiProject_Council/Guide. -- Chuq (talk) 04:52, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I have brought up the issue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council.--  十  八  10:34, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I have replied to the comments at the Wikiproject council. G1ggy Stalk - Talk  -  Chalk 00:21, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Expansion?
I was thinking that maybe we should expand to cover all of Bernard Fanning's individual work, as well as Darren Middleton's work with Drag. What do the other project members think about this idea? G1 gg  y  !  Review me! 04:37, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't read this until just now, but I did all the drag stuff last night. It all needs work, but there's a Drag article, one for each album/EP, song and categories for them. The drummer needs an article created, as he's also Powderfinger's live engineer. The other two ought to also. -- linca linca  04:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject concerns
A concern regarding this project has been posted to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Australia. Your input is welcomed. -- Longhair\talk 03:47, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Predetors
Is there a Predators page yet? I haven't actually looked yet but I'm guessing there isn't. I'm not totally sure what my point is, but I thought it'd be worth bringing up (as it was formed by 2 PF members and an ex-PF member) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matoran (talk • contribs)
 * No, there isn't (as far as I can see), but you are welcome, and encouraged, to create one (if the band is notable enough). If you make one, it would be rated as low importance -  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 01:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd say they are notable enough, plus it gives more backbone to Steven Bishop having his own article. They're released an album on Dew Process and they have a page there. -- linca linca  04:25, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation
I've just added Passenger and Sunsets to the appropriate disambiguation pages. Sunset (disambiguation) and Passenger (disambiguation). Slabba 03:12, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Good work. On another note, great work on the tables on the Powderfinger article, but the thought just came to me that we really need refs for all those (especially chart rankings).  Got anything? -  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 03:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It's listed on the appropriate Hottest 100 lists. I've linked to them (under the year) and they're all referenced within themselves back to a source. -- linca linca  04:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Um, no. If you're referring to the yearly articles (eg. Triple J Hottest 100, 2004) they are currently have no source at all. RaNdOm26 17:18, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Rolling Stone Mag article
The recent RS article, an interview with the band and Rob Hirst, contains some nice information that could be worked into the Finger article, as well as the Dream Days, L&R and Black Tears articles. I read somebody else's copy and don't have one to source from, but I do remember it contained some good commentary on a wide range of issues, so if anybody has one, flick through it and see what will be worthwhile. Wwwhhh 14:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I had a quick look, and could only find this - no article. I'll search more later. -  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 23:01, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Harvard Referencing
I've just done the big job of changing all of the references on the Powderfinger page into Harvard References. I just used today's date for the retrieval date. There's still the mammoth task of converting the others refs on all of the other pages... At least it will make it one step closer to becoming a GA. Slabba 06:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Good work. You could also use the cite web template if it is easier to write. RaNdOm26 06:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Didn't know about that template, but I'm fairly used to writing references, I couldn't remember if I had to use quotation marks around article titles, may have to look that up one day. Slabba 23:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Red to blue....
Whew! Goteen through a stack of new articles in the last few days (3 in the last 10 minutes) so now we're much less red, far more blue, but we've now got a stack of stubs. Anyone interested in now helping upgrade all the articles? Anything that's stub to start, start to B and B to A/nom for GA? I'm throwing my hat in the ring. -- linca linca  11:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that we're now almost done with article creation, we might be able to do some focused collaboration. Hopefully a bit more successfully then with Internationalist ;)  At the end of this week, after Lost and Running's collab ends, are there any suggestions for which article to do next?  Oh, and I'm throwing my hat in the ring too :D  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 00:26, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Gah, I'm going to be away for two weeks. If someone else wants to run the collab, go ahead. You need to update Powderfinger Collab and the to do list  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 05:34, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Happy to step up. I reckon I'll do Bernard Fanning one week and Double Allergic the other. Any objections? -- linca linca  06:01, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Been busy
I've been busy this morning making a few changes, most notably on the Powderfinger awards page. Also I fixed up the spacing in the Powderfinger template, and created some disambiguation links, i.e. My Happiness (disambiguation) and Songbird (disambiguation). Also corrected a couple of minor things on the Lost and Running page. Slabba 01:23, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Waiting for the Sun
I just created a new page for "Waiting for the Sun". It's very similar to "The Metre" at the moment, needs a little work. I also created a disambiguation page for Waiting for the Sun (disambiguation). Slabba 04:31, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Dreams Days
I've just gone through the Dreams Days at the Hotel Existence article and fixed up the grammar, it must be close to GA status now. I think the references need to be updated, with a proper format, it will be a big job as there's about 30 refs. Slabba 05:35, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Good work Slabba. I've been pottering around the Crowded House pages lately and have gotten a bit sidetracked from improving the dd page. It has been suggested that someone new look at the article and do a bit of a format before re-requesting the GA review. To me, though, the review just given really was with FA considerations, not GA. -- linca linca  05:59, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Your favourites
Look, I love the idea of collaboration, but a COTW wasn't working that great in this project, so I'm thinking that there are probably other ways to stir up teamwork. Here's something I came up with. If we find other project members who favour the same aspects of the band as us, we can collaborate on that! There's also another element, fun! Although that should never get in the way of hardcore collaboration, right :P

So anyway, what are everyone's favourite Powderfinger album, song, video, and band member (or associated person).

Being completely shameless and fearless, I'll start :D
 * Album: Of the three I own (Best of, VS, and DDatHE), Vulture Street. But based on what I've heard, Internationalist sounds best.
 * Song: The song that actually got me really into Powderfinger was Sunsets, but at the moment my favourite song is Love Your Way.
 * Video: Again, Sunsets is "the original," but the best video I've seen is that of Passenger (Living Type is pretty good too, but I've got no idea what it means!).
 * Band member: Darren Middleton.

Now, what does everyone else say? It'd be interesting to see if there's anything we all agree (or disagree) on. Go for it! Giggy UCP 22:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Slabba's fav's
 * Album: I'd have to say Odyssey Number Five, there's some really great songs on that album ("Waiting for the Sun", "My Happiness", "The Metre", "Like a Dog", and "These Days").
 * Song: It would have to be Passenger, it's got a great arrangement and is just simply a great song in my opinion.
 * Video: Can't think off one off the top of my head.
 * Band member: Don't have a fav band member.
 * Slabba 01:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I'll say Double Allergic, "My Kind of Scene" (for song and video) and Cogs for member. -- linca linca  05:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Cs1987's favourites:
 * Album: I'd say Odyssey #5, which is probably my favourite album of the last 10 years or so. Fingerprints is better overall, but I don't really count greatest hits.
 * Song: Definitely Love Your Way. That song is one of my top ten favourite songs of all time, and I think it is worthy of being a real classic. Not that I don't like other Powderfinger songs, but Love Your Way seems to stand out above the rest.
 * Video: Probably My Kind Of Scene.
 * Band member: I guess that would be either Darren or Ian. They're both great guitarists.
 * Cs1987 13:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, the video clip for "The Day You Come" is pretty sweet too (not in the girly way). I think we all should refer to YouTube to see all the videos. Every one of them is on there, even early ones like "Take Me In"... and there's about a thousand of "Lost and Running". Anyway ...-- linca linca  23:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Speaking of which, you can't go past the Already Gone video :P Giggy  UCP 23:17, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The only trouble with that is that the band themselves didn't like the video for "Already Gone", but that fact may quantify notability because it was notoriously sexist, rather against the general principles of the finger. -- linca linca  05:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Summary tables for Wiki Project
I have just spent quite a bit of time creating tables on the WikiProject page to make things appear clearer. I would suggest that as an article's rating changes can you update the table too, so that we can keep track of the progress of each article. Also I think we should add every article to the tables, so we can keep track of their progress and just use the urgent table for very important things. I hope it doesn't seem like overkill, let me know what you think. Slabba 02:42, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I also noted when I was going through all of the articles that there was 2 or 3 band members who weren't part of the WP Powderfinger, can't remember which ones. I rated them, but if someone wants to check it out, please do. Slabba 03:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Band members you rated: Darren and Ian (on my watchlist, dunno how I missed them). As for having every article on the tables, I'm not sure it's a good idea.  Unless someone wants to suggest something specific, we don't really need to tell each other that DDatHE is a B verging on GA (although I've placed it there citing the GA review improvements).  Giggy  UCP 03:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I like the headings you used for the articles on the project page Giggy. I think we should see what the others think first before we remove them from the tables, I'm happy to remove the unnecessary ones  if its not helpful to people. Slabba 04:51, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

GA Status
I just want to say congratulations to everyone who helped contribute to the Dream Days at the Hotel Existence article as it is now has GA Status, especially Linca and Giggy. Well done! :-) Slabba 23:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Aww, thanks Slab. You and Random (and everyone else helped too =D.  Now, to FA! We mustn't rest on our laurels :P  Giggy  UCP 23:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm just wondering if our laurel that is Dream Days ought to be rested (though updated as events occur) as we contribute to expanding the flagship page to have a better account of 89-98 and bring it up to GA and also get all of the individual member pages up to at least B class. I think priority #1 should now be towards getting Powderfinger to FA. I'm sorry I can't contribute as much as I used to here, now that I've also got the same task ahead of me for my new project with Crowded House, Split Enz (have a look at the logo I just did there :p ), Tim Finn, Finn Brothers and Neil Finn... I'm going to be busy for a while. Haha. Good luck guys, but that's my opinion with the project's priorities. GA's good enough for DD for now. -- linca linca  05:11, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Powderfinger is right up there as well. But an FA would be  nice....working on both wouldn't hurt!  On, and nice logo :P  Giggy  UCP 22:11, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Taking a break...
As noted here and here, I'll be taking a break, and will hopefully return in about a week. Good luck with the project while I'm gone, and if you have anything important (eg. if you get Powderfinger to GA :D), please email me! Special:Emailuser/Giggy. See you all soon, Giggy  UCP 05:07, 31 July 2007 (UTC)