Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Puerto Rico/Archives/2010/March

Mass deletion of Puerto Rican related images part 2
I would like the community to know that Damiens has continued with his mass deletionds of Puerto Rican related images Files for deletion/2009 December 29. This is an obvious attempt to continue WP:WIKIHOUNDING me. I have had it and can no longer be part of this project.Tony the Marine (talk) 21:04, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

They are deleting information like &%##!!! Deleting the famous people in the towns. Political reasons?? Deleted the Yabucoa lawyer Alsonso Lastra from the historical people. Because he was a nationalist? Here are some very serious issues at hand. Probable cause for a suit? I would like to know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by67.224.248.76 (talk) 06:09, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

"Slaves" versus "Enslaved Africans"
In most of the articles in Wikipedia that talk about the enslavement of Africans,the word "slaves" is used to describe the African people who were brought to the Americas and the Caribbean islands; however, these Africans were not "slaves" in their own lands and countries in Africa--they were people--Africans, with their own rights, cultures, languages, etc. So if the word "slave" is continued to be used in this way, it implies that these people were not already free before the Europeans came to Africa, which is incorrect.

I appreciate it if someone could change the word "slaves" and use "enslaved Africans" instead. It's important to remember the humanity and sovereignty of Africans and African-heritage people, and that they were not and are not objects of commodity. Thank you.

Williat7 (talk) 13:08, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You may be right that the Africans were not "slaves" in their own lands and countries in Africa, however what most people have forgotten and seldom mention is that the Africans were sold as slaves to the Europeans by their own tribe elders. Let us not forget that slavery was not limited to Africans. If we take a look at all the Empires, such as the Roman Empire, we will find that these societies often enslaved those whom they conquered, thus converting those people in objects of commodity which they (the masters) believed had the right to sell if they so wished (Who do you think built the Pyramids in Egypt?). This also occurred with the wealthy tribe elders in Africa who enslaved Africans and sold them as a commodity. I believe that the Africans were inicially "enslaved" their elders and sold as "slaves" to the Europeans. Tony the Marine (talk) 20:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I think there is a natural bias in the encyclopedia highlighting the European ancestry of Puerto Ricans. Just like the Argentinos we like to be more European than the Pope (ex: Spanish-Puerto_Ricans !/?). Thanks to Tony and others we have the articles like "Black history in Puerto Rico" where we can highlight the African influence and ancestry in Puerto Rico. And of course, you are invited to join us to improve Wikipedia. --Jmundo (talk) 20:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced living people articles bot
Okip  00:00, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Move proposal- Black history in Puerto Rico
Move proposal, any thoughts? Discussion on the talk page of the article, see: Talk:Black history in Puerto Rico. --Jmundo (talk) 18:30, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Seven days have passed and as proposed in the talk page, it is assumed that consensus has been reached, therefore the page will be moved. Tony the Marine (talk) 00:30, 28 March 2010 (UTC)