Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Punk music/Archive 2

Project Template
WikiProject Punk music has gone haywire. All that appears is: Template:WPBannerMeta minge. Anyone know what is wrong? benzband ( talk ) 06:05, 9 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I have reverted an IP edit identified as vandalism. The template works again. benzband  ( talk ) 06:09, 9 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I protected the template. You must not know your british slang :P --Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  06:14, 9 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Lol. You're right. If i had i might have warned him for Vandalism instead of just Test-editing. And thanks for protecting it. benzband  ( talk ) 18:04, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Protected Page
Just a heads up, List of punk rock bands, 0–K is locked from editing for a week due to User:Astrotube's persistent vandalism. Jasper420 19:57, 23 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Did you consider warning him on his talk page? benzband  ( talk ) 20:05, 23 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I did, until I realized I was late for class. Anyways, I'm sure he'll have long forgotten in a weeks time. Jasper420 01:46, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Okey. i suppose you're right :) benzband  ( talk ) 18:15, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


 * 311? A punk rock band? You've got to be kidding. --IllaZilla (talk) 18:30, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I've got to admit i don't even know the band so i can't be of any help there. benzband  ( talk ) 18:56, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, there were links on the pages to articles describing them as a punk band, among other genres, but I see he's gone and removed them too. I should probably fix that.... On the other hand, the admin who protected the page did accuse me of edit warring and threatened to block, so I may just lay low a bit. But I will never let a vandal win. Jasper420 03:38, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Book
Hi, i have a problem at Book:Punk rock as in some cases i don't really know which genres should go in "sub-genres" and which in "derivative genres". Could someone please take a look? Thanks, benzband  ( talk ) 07:13, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * A quick look would say that the post and core genres should go in derivatives, as well as perhaps No Wave and noise rock. Jasper420 19:48, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ thanks for the advice :) benzband  ( talk ) 20:30, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Punk music will have interest in putting on events related to women's roles in punk rock: as singers, musicians, bands, writers, promoters. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 19:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Riot Grrrl anyone? Bikini Kill needs lots of work and sources are plentiful and fairly low hanging. --Guerillero &#124; My Talk  20:01, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't really get what's to be done then… benzband  ( talk ) 16:01, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Back in the day there was a Punk music Collaboration of the month I was suggesting that we bring it back and work on Bikini Kill as part of SarahStierch's project. She is an editor who I respect a ton and would love to help out. (Did you know...that she was the organizer of Fugazi shows in Indianapolis?) --Guerillero &#124; My Talk  19:31, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok. Well by then maybe we can get the monthly collaboration up and going again? Apparently the current month has been lasting since 2009, which does seem a bit odd. I propose either we try to revive it, or dump it altogether. benzband  ( talk ) 10:56, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I have added the proposal at WP:PUNK/COTM for next month, and updated WPPunk News. benzband  ( talk ) 11:34, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I added a few things and distributed it as a newsletter --In actu (Guerillero) &#124; My Talk  16:49, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Cheers! I don't know how to go about "doing this on the project page", however. benzband  ( talk ) 19:23, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

What about Delta 5 (stub), The Slits (start), The Innocents (start), The Go-Go's (start)? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 21:48, 23 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Any of those would have probably worked fine, but they weren't nominated… :S I have "approved" (or whatever you call it) "Bikini Kill" (winning nomination - 5 supports) as the March 2012 COTM. Happy editing! benzband  ( talk ) 16:32, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Unassessed backlog
If anyone is feeling a bit bored, please feel free to help tackle the Unassessed Punk music articles, filling in the  (and if possible , but i for one am no good at that) parameters in WikiProject Punk music. benzband ( talk ) 18:54, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm feeling bored ... lol. I hope to be of some help. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 14:59, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

✅ ~ task successfully compl[ol]eted! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 14:36, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Wow! Thanks pjoef, that's really great ;) Cheers for all the work (hope boring through this backlog helped un-bore you a bit ~lol)  benzband  ( talk ) 16:21, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Ramones
Hi folks,

I'm in a discussion on the talk page with someone who seems insistent on edit warring to get their own way without any consideration for collaboative working / opinion. Anyone who is able to spare the time, could you take a look and add your view please?

Socheid (talk) 15:40, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Hardcore punk, pop punk
Every time I try to edit something all I get is a completely empty edit window. Does anybody know why that is? I joined because I'd really like to fix and expand on a lot of stuff pertaining to 90s punk. Is there any chance that we can refrain from overusing (if we must use it at all) the phrase hardcore punk? Any band that was ever any kind of punk is called "hardcore punk". I think this started with allmusic.com and it really bugs me. This phrase is used to describe anything from pop punk (which by the way is VERY poorly described in its' article) to hardcore. If it's not sum41 it's "hardcore punk". Nobody ever used to call these bands "hardcore punk" when they were playing. Hardcore, punk, pop punk, skate punk, rock n roll etc.

Also, am I the only person who feels that if we must refer to Good Charlotte as a pop punk band it should be in a completely separate page than the pop punk page that talks about Screeching Weasel and Sicko? I really feel strongly that there is not a correlation between the two beyond the use of the word as a marketing term. Also, the original style of pop punk is still very much in existence. A lot of folks probably call it "hardcore punk" though.

(Want2fixCrap (talk) 07:29, 11 March 2012 (UTC))


 * I have moved your comment down the page. benzband  ( talk ) 10:55, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

In the case of "hardcore punk", I think the label is necessary here. Punk is not the only genre to use the term "hardcore" (hardcore hip-hop hardcore techno). Not to mention uses in other media (film titles, comic books, porn, ect). So, even though "hardcore" is the proper term, we still have to think of the encyclopedia as a whole. Now, if you think that a band has been improperly labeled as a hardcore band, bring it up on that bands talk page or voice you concerns here again. Start discussions with your fellow editors, and build a consensus. We all want to build better articles and make the entire project be as correct as possible. Remember to be bold in your edits, and avoid edit waring. As for Good Charlotte, that's the problem with genres and sub-genres. Bands may vary differently, but still be considered the same type of music. Unfortunately, it's the same way with all music. At any rate, I for one appreciate that you came here to voice your concerns and get the opinions of other editors. Keep up the good work, and don't hesitate to ask for help. Natt the Hatt (talk) 00:40, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Museum Mouth
Came across a large comment by at Talk:Museum Mouth, which may be of interest to anyone interested in the subject. benzband ( talk ) 17:16, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Punk Metal
The page has been (re)created, with a redirect to Crossover thrash. benzband ( talk ) 16:28, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * cool, cool -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  13:12, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month follow-up
Hi everyone! I just wanted to follow up with your project and see if any article creations or improvements took place in regards to WikiWomen's History Month! If so, it'd be great if you could please post your article outcomes on the..you guessed it...WWHM outcome page! Thanks everyone for all your efforts! Sarah (talk) 20:54, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Well i don't think we have done anything, and the COTM (Bikini Kill) didn't seem to work out… lol. In the mean time, i've drawn up a list below (from what was proposed in February) so anyone who wants can help in improvements :-) benzband  ( talk ) 15:16, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Todo (please add/edit)
(it's never too late on Wikipedia ;)
 * - Start
 * - Stub
 * - Start
 * - Start
 * - Start
 * - it doesn't look like too much work needs to be done to reach GA
 * - Start
 * - Stub
 * - already a GA, perhaps work to FA?
 * - Start

Signpost
Would anyone be opposed to putting us in the queue to be covered by the signpost? -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  03:09, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Absolutely not :) benzband  ( talk ) 08:51, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Green Day GA noms
has nominated Green Day and American Idiot for GA. Yasht101 plans to retire from Wikipedia in a couple of days, so anyone willing to put their eyes on the GA noms and participate in the GA pushes would be appreciated. --IllaZilla (talk) 14:47, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Asian Man Records
Anybody want to help out with a small overhaul? Basically just update the former artists section to include where the bands are currently signed (as done on Fat Wreck), add bands to the category Asian Man Records artists, and the same for the albums. I'll be doing it over the next week or so, but could probably use some help. I eventually plan on doing the same with about a dozen or so other prominent record labels. Jasper420 03:28, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Asian Man's done, next on my list is Jade Tree. Jasper420 05:51, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Tell me when you get to Dischord. cheers -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  07:23, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

WP Punk Music in the Signpost
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Punk Music for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 02:11, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don't Forget Your Roots (H2O album)
Hey all. Don't Forget Your Roots is up for deletion. Weigh in here. Jasper420 03:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * it's been kept. benzband  ( talk ) 08:52, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

None More Black
None More Black was just deleted about a week ago. I don't remember any AFD regarding it coming up. Was anyone there? Jasper420 22:51, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I was unaware. Looks like it was deleted under A7. --IllaZilla (talk) 23:36, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Damn. Wish I'd noticed sooner. Jasper420  01:04, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You could always ask the deleting admin (Alexf) to userfy it for you if you wanna try to salvage it. Shouldn't be too hard; I note Allmusic has a bio of them. --IllaZilla (talk) 01:11, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I can do it for you if you would like -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  04:08, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Its here if you want to give it a shot. I did a little bit already, but not much. You can work from there or take it and put it in your own space, whichever you want. Jasper420  05:44, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

RAR: punk genre?
Seeking input on Rock Against Racism, where wants the page listed at category:punk genres. Can it be qualified as a "punk genre", even though it involved pop, rock reggae as well? Timeline: add, revert, add. benzband ( talk ) 09:59, 24 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Very simple: A festival/campaign is not a genre. Already categorized in Category:Punk rock festivals. Category:Punk genres is for articles about musical genres, not festivals. --IllaZilla (talk) 11:45, 24 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Clear as winter ice. benzband  ( talk ) 16:09, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Need a ref
There is some info that an IP has been adding to Uno!. The thing is that recordings of Uno are finished on 25 June 2012. However, it is little though for me to find a source for the claim so can anyone find if there are any and if they don't exist do let me know. Cheers!  →TSU tp* 20:54, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Choking Victim needs updating
As a couple of editors have noted in the article and on the talk page, Choking Victim are playing a few UK shows this month and next. Their article as yet doesn't really reflect this. Can someone take a look? – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 20:35, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * i've made a few edits to the page. benzband  ( talk ) 16:23, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

New Newsletter
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!

— benzband  ( talk ) 16:27, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Stories Project
Hey all. Received this message, and figured I'd pass it around. Jasper420 23:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Stories Project
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Victor Grigas (talk) 16:53, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:PunkRockInfobox
Template:PunkRockInfobox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. benzband ( talk ) 09:47, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Overly broad addition of this project's template
Someone may want to monitor Invisiboy42293's addition of this template to articles that don't fall into the scope of this project. I am not a project member and won't follow this thread. Please leave talkback for me if you would like me to respond. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:21, 10 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for notifying us! I have taken a quick look and at least some of them seem to be justified. I will look at more and remove them if they're not. benzband  ( talk ) 07:35, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Special:Contributions/Benzband (the "rm punk" edit summaries) and notified Invisiboy. benzband  ( talk ) 08:18, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry about that. Just to clarify, a lot of the entries I added the template to were sourced (or at least source-able) as some form of pop punk or post-hardcore (a couple as post-punk), so I figured they fit the project's criteria. Still, I apologize for any inconvenience I may have caused and will try to be more careful about adding this template in the future. Thanks for keeping me in check.--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 15:40, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I would argue that Mewithoutyuou is punk..... -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  17:58, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I have taken issue with the sources that Invisiboy42293 has offered. They can be found at list of Christian punk bands. They quite often consist of words or phrases that link bands to genres to punk-derivative genres such as emo, screamo, New Wave, etc.. Some of the words are likely throw-away. In one case, I contacted the writer who indicated that he was paid by the band's A&R person to include the phrases to help a single album appear to be different than it was. By default, that makes the source (AllMusic) unreliable. However, my email correspondence isn't a RS either. In any case, you may look at the sources yourself. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:06, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed, some of the bands were described as "pop rock", "electro pop" and so on but not punk; in light of that i removed the tag. I didn't know what "post-hardcore" was but Fugazi didn't have the tag so i took from that also. But then again all this genre stuff is a bit complicated so i could be wrong.
 * @Guerillero: I have now reverted my edit to that talkpage. I don't know the band, so my reasoning for removing teh template was that i couldn't find mention of punk music except for post hardcore.
 * @Invisiboy42293: thanks for adding the templates! Many of them i didn't remove. One suggestion though is that when you add project banners, try to fill in the parameters when possible (for example, if the article queality has already been rated in a different banner). And BTW, your draft for list of Christian punk bands looks good! Cheers ~ benzband  ( talk ) 19:04, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for all the help and advice. BTW, for future reference, do hardcore punk and metalcore bands merit the template?--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 22:55, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hardcore for sure, but metalcore's a little more divisive. I've seen some with both punk and metal banners, but I think it depends on the band. Jasper420 00:53, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Got it. I'll keep that in mind.--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 01:00, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Ramones Songs by author
We need List of Ramones songs written by Joey, List of Ramones songs written by Dee Dee, etc., or just List of Ramones songs by Author. Readers like me want to know exactly which songs were written by who. Chrisrus (talk) 20:02, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * We really don't. Writing credits are on relevant articles. Jasper420 20:28, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree w/ Jasper; such a list would be duplicative & redundant. We already have authorship credits on all the album articles. Very easy for any reader to find out who wrote what. --IllaZilla (talk) 21:23, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Record Labels
A few months ago I brought up overhauling some punk record labels in a similar way to Fat Wreck Chords, but i got waylayed by other things after only getting through two or three, so I figured I'd just leave my plans here incase anyone else is interested.

Lets say we're doing Wikipedia Records:
 * Create category:Wikipedia records. Into this category goes Wikipedia Records, whoever started the label (Jimbo Wales), and the categories Wikipedia Records albums and Wikipedia Records artists. If those two categories do not already exist, create them.
 * Add all listed artists to Wikipedia Records artists and all albums released on Wikipedia to Wikipedia Records albums.

A list of the labels I initially came up with to give this treatment to.


 * Adeline Records
 * A-F Records
 * Alternative Tentacles
 * Asian Man Records
 * Bridge 9 Records
 * Burning Heart Records
 * BYO Records
 * Dischord Records
 * Epitaph Records
 * Facedown Records
 * G7 Welcoming Committee Records
 * Geykido Comet Records
 * Go-Kart Records
 * Hellcat Records
 * Honest Don's Records
 * Jade Tree Records
 * Kung Fu Records
 * Lookout! Records
 * New Alliance Records
 * New Red Archives
 * Nitro Records
 * No Idea Records
 * Paper + Plastick
 * Plan-It-X Records
 * Punk Core Records
 * Red Scare Industries
 * Revelation Records
 * SideOneDummy Records
 * SST Records
 * Taang! Records
 * Tooth & Nail Records

Jasper420


 * Might get to it some time in the near future :) As it is i've started a bit. benzband  ( talk ) 21:18, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * BTW you can use   as a strikethrough shortcut rather than the span tags.
 * Ah. I knew there was a simpler strikethrough, I just couldn't find it in the editing menu. (Could you post some example text with a strikethrough used? I can't seem to figure out how.) Anyways, I seem to recall when I first brought this up some one showing interest in Dischord. I think it was either you Guerillero? Also, perhaps we can see if Walter Görlitz is interested in helping with Facedown. I see he's a member of the Christian music project, so I'll shoot him a message. Jasper420
 * It's in the edit tools below the edit summary box and save/preview buttons. Click on and then choose "wiki markup". Then there should be a list of clickable markups such as  … unless you're using the non-java version in which case it will look like this (copy/paste).
 * I had started on Hellcat and AT but am going to get some sleep tight now. :P benzband  ( talk ) 22:37, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * On a related note, I'm working on User:IllaZilla/Fat Wreck Chords discography. --IllaZilla (talk) 01:35, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool. I didn't include them on the list because I based my little system off what I'd seen done for Fat, so I assumed everything was on the up and up. Jasper420

Chewing on Tinfoil
Think they're notable enough for an article? http://www.punknews.org/bands/chewingontinfoil benzband  ( talk ) 21:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I think they are a NOTNOW type of band. I am sure that reviews will come out soon but I they aren't out now. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  21:53, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks. I'll wait for some… benzband  ( talk ) 22:40, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Punknews template?
How about creating a Punknews.org template, a bit like we have for Allmusic? Although using cite web for articles or reviews is probably better (more parameters=less link rot), for band profiles it might come in useful. benzband ( talk ) 09:04, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If people will use it, I will code it -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  01:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * punknews. If you make any changes don't forget to update the documentation! benzband  ( talk ) 12:42, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

None More Black
User:Jasper420/None More Black Does it look good enough for the mainspace now? Jasper420
 * Looks good enough to me. --IllaZilla (talk) 21:40, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright. Who wants to do the honors? (Since I have no idea how to go about doing so) Jasper420
 * All you have to do is use the "move" feature: In the upper right of your window, just left of the search box, should be a downward-pointing arrow. Hover over it and you should get a dropdown option for "move". Click on that. That'll take you to the move menu. For the namespace, select "(Article)", then make the title "None More Black". For the reason you can just put "moving from userspace to article space" or something similar. Then click "move page" and you should be all set. --IllaZilla (talk) 01:48, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Hardcore punk
The article has been undergoing a slow but lenghtly edit war from multiple IPs/Users over whether or not to include "heavy metal" as a stylistic origin in the infobox. (see history) Thoughts? benzband ( talk ) 16:04, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

New article Sábado de mierda (1988 docu on Mexican punks)
Nearly 20 years ago I saw the film Sábado de mierda at a film festival, and it made a real impression on me. There's enough mention online about it to establist WP:N, but not a lot of material. It's listed on IMDB, but until I turned up today had just the bare minimum of info. I found a few footnotes for it, so I have something to start with.

The documentary is up on YouTube (poor sound quality though) and really worth watching if you're into depictions of punk culture, and in this case in a really rough Mexican neighbourhood. If anyone else happens to watch it and wants to help bring over names from the credits, or help write a plot summary, that'd be cool as well. Hope a few folks here find it interesting! MatthewVanitas (talk) 03:14, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Descendant WikiProjects
I was wondering if anyone had opinions on creating descendant WikiProjects. I think it would be beneficial to create projects for skramz or post-hardcore, seeing as they are related to but distinct from punk rock and emo. This would be similar to how WikiProject Computer Science is a descendant of WikiProject Computing and also related to WikiProject Mathematics. Ozhu (talk) 01:25, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I would be quite reluctant to make Projects which are sub- to current projects. During the ebbs and flows of Wikipedia, a number of WikiProjects have arisen and promptly fallen inactive. Even something so wide as WikiProject Punk has only a few new threads in the past four months and WP:WikiProject Emo only a few threads in the last few years. Starting a new WikiProject Skramz or similar would very likely (on precedent) result in a half-dozen folks making a good-faith start on some cleanup, then swiftly petering out. I would suggest instead that you post any comments/suggestions/articles in WP:Punk as the more active of the two, and post a short "check out the discussion at WP:Punk" notice on the WP:Emo talk page. New WikiProjects should really only be started if, for example, Skramz discussion has become so prevalent that it's just overwhelming the WP:Punk talk page, not just because it might be nice to have a specific Skreamz thread. All told, there is better coverage and visibility in adding more content to quiet-ish projects, than in creating yet-smaller projects, especially when precedent shows the mid-scope projects only have limited participation. MatthewVanitas (talk) 07:25, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Toxik Ephex (Scottish 1979 punk) needs sourcing for WP:Notability
The article Toxik Ephex is vulnerable to deletion since, though it has several paragraphs of content, it has no proper sourcing to meet Notability (music). If anyone is into Scottish bands, some sourcing would be great; the article originator and main contributor hasn't edited in 4 years, so probably no help there. MatthewVanitas (talk) 00:09, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Source request
Is there a project member who kept their Alternative Press Magazines from 2012? cheers -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  07:40, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I have most of them. Missing Feb and May for some reason. What do you need? --IllaZilla (talk) 10:04, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I am working on Flatfoot 56's album Toil. The band's webpage claims that there was a AP review of the album and it was released in early August 2012. Could you please look in the July and August album reviews section to see if there is a review? -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  19:19, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Got it. Here's the full text:


 * Produced by Street Dogs' Johnny Rioux, Flatfoot 56's sixth album, Toil, is a must-listen for fans of Dropkick Murphys and Flogging Molly. "Brother, Brother" starts the album out fast and furious before delving into a stretch of slower songs: "The Rich, the Strong and the Poor", the stripped-down "I Believe It" and "Take hold Again". Frontman Tobin Bawinkel's gruff growl is best showcased by the title track and the punky "Live or Die Trying". Later, the album slows down again, with "6'10" and its sing-along refrain of "I ain't gonna bother". The album winds down uniquely with the piano-accompanied "Winter in Chicago" and the handclap-laden "I'll Fly Away", ending on a high note.


 * --IllaZilla (talk) 21:30, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  21:40, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Articles to be created
Once my Christmas break roles around, I was thinking of writing a few articles to pass the time.
 * Doom - Police Bastard 7"
 * Doom - Fuck Peaceville
 * possibly some other Doom albums
 * Aus-Rotten - Fuck Nazi Sympathy
 * Aus-Rotten - The System Works For Them
 * Aus-Rotten - ...And Now Back to Our Programming
 * Dropkick Murphys - Anti-Heros vs Dropkick Murphys
 * Dropkick Murphys - German Lager vs. Irish Stout
 * Dropkick Murphys - This Is the East Coast (...Not L.A.)
 * Dropkick Murphys - Back On The Streets 10"
 * Good Clean Fun - Between Christian Rock and a Hard Place

I haven't started research for sources yet, so I may have to skip some, or even abandon all together, seeing as these are all lesser known EPs, except for Fuck Nazi Sympathy and Police Bastard, which are fairly well know amongst the crust scene. Jasper420
 * If anyone can dig up any sources on Police Bastard, that'd be great. all I can find is compilations. Jasper420
 * Quick question: do all punk rock albums get a WikiProject banner on their talk page? Jasper420
 * As far as I know -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  03:59, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

The Underground: Issue 2 (January 2013)


Delivered by In actu (Guerillero) on behalf of WikiProject Punk. You are receiving this because your user name is listed in Category:WikiProject Punk music members or on our participants list. If you would like to stop these sorts of updates please remove the userbox from your profile, remove the category from your profile, and/or move your name down to the Inactive/former members section of the participants list. Thanks.

Cheers,

benzband ( talk ) &  Guerillero  &#124;  My Talk  03:43, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

If anyone would like a copy of The Underground that didn't get one please ask below and I will drop one off and add you to the list for future issues. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  03:43, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

The Lords of the New Church proposed for deletion
Just thought I would mention that The Lords of the New Church has been proposed for deletion on account of "no good sources". I doubt it should be difficult to find just a couple of sources for this band in order to rescue the article. --Saddhiyama (talk) 22:29, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the notice -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  04:10, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Genres not included in List of punk rock bands
Currently disallowed are garage rock, protopunk, alternative rock, grunge, New wave and post-punk. I suggest adding metalcore and crossover thrash to the description. While both are descended from hardcore punk, they are too much of a derivative form to be included with punk bands (with the exception of early metalcore bands, before the introduction of melodic death metal influence). Jasper420 20:16, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, i think so too. benzband  ( talk ) 20:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No objections, so I went for it. I'll just keep an eye out for any do gooders who try to remove old style metalcore bands. Jasper420

Project banner
'S'mee again. Currently, adding the Wikiproject Punk banner to a talk page adds it the the relevant categories for quality and importance scale, but not a general category. I don't know if it's been discussed before, but it seems like a good idea, though I personally don't know how one would go about doing it. Jasper420 21:10, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I think someone who can edit Template:WikiProject Punk music must add the  |MAIN_CAT           =  and fill it in (for instance, Wikiproject Punk music pages.  benzband  ( talk ) 15:57, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Crack Rock Steady
Does the "crack rock steady" subgenre deserve a mention in the article on ska punk? Choking Victim and it's offshoots have inspired many bands worldwide, but individually they aren't notable (thinking Infested, Stupid Henchmen, Cap A Capo…). And if so does anyone know any usable sources to support such a mention? benzband ( talk ) 17:44, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Metropolis Video
Just making you aware of an interesting new article. Some of you may have something interesting to add to it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:20, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

GA Review Request
Could a project member please do a GA review of Toil? Thanks -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  07:28, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It has been reviewed and is now a GA-- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  03:30, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Vital articles
There is a discussion occuring here regarding which music articles should be deemed vital to the Wikipedia project. Your input would be appreciated. GabeMc (talk&#124;contribs)  21:51, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Wisdom In Chains
If anyone's any good at discography organization, Wisdom In Chains could use a clean up, seperating studio albums and EPs and whatnot. I'm no good with code, but I've created some album pages for the band. Jasper420 18:42, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't know anything about the band, but I'll give it a go.Natt the Hatt (talk) 20:53, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay. Discography is cleaned up and organized. Please take a look for any mistakes I may have made. Thanks.Natt the Hatt (talk) 00:46, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * That looks excellent, thank you! Jasper420

Angry Samoans
It looks like Kevin Saunders is whitewashing all references to his birth name from any and all Angry Samoans related page. I'm not touching this, but figured I'd inform the public. Jasper420 18:18, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Crass
I started work on the Crass pages (band, members & discography). Especially the main article needs work, it has become a bloated thing that needs trimming. If anybody wants to give me a hand, please do so. I'd like to finally get Crass to GA status. It has already failed twice.  Yinta n  21:07, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Crack Rock Steady
Does anyone have usable sources about "crack rock steady" as a genre? I thought a quick note about it might make a good addition to the article on ska punk, but couldn't find any appropriate references. benzband ( talk ) 22:34, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think that subgenre is codified enough for inclusion. No hits in reliable sources. czar   &middot;   &middot;  00:21, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It's basically just one guy (Stza) and all the side projects that spawned off of Choking Victim. It's a very unique style, but centralized on C-Squat. -Jasper420 on my roomate's laptop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.13.39.137 (talk) 20:55, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Choking Victim and its offshoots have influenced many other bands though. benzband  ( talk ) 22:19, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Punkcast author needs help
Hi. Please see Wikipedia talk:Videos/Archive 1 if you know anything about Copyright and Conflict of Interest and can help this editor out. (That's a quiet page he posted at, and I'm not well-briefed on these issues.) Thanks! –Quiddity (talk) 18:26, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Rise Against
They've just released a B-sides album, with songs culled from many album's tracklist. Would it be appropriate to mention track origins? Jasper420 05:17, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Un-Assessed importance articles backlog
I just went through the backlog of articles of unassessed importance, reducing the number of articles needing to be assessed from around 500 to 62. Could someone please go through the last 62 articles I skipped and assess them? I skipped them mostly because:
 * I wasn't sure what level to classify them as
 * I wasn't sure if they fall under the scope of the project
 * I wasn't sure if the articles were notable, or should instead be deleted.

I'm fairly certain that all the remaining articles, should they not fall under the bottom two criteria, would be either low or mid importance. Wall Screamer (talk) 21:31, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Done! 62 articles (out of 65) belong to this WikiProject. I am not sure about Les Georges Leningrad (which is a experimental/post/indie rock band from Montreal), MewithoutYou (an art/indie rock, but also post-hardcore band from Philadelphia), and Neon Horse (do we cover post-punk?). Sorry, but I cannot answer the last criteria. Happy editing! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 19:42, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Going with "outside scope" for those three, especially the first two czar  ♔  02:49, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Stub Contest
Casliber is running a contest where wikipedians expand stubs. Since lots of punk articles are short stubs, this may be of interest to the project. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  01:52, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The contest appears to be old, and related specifically to the vital articles, though perhaps the idea can be translated czar  ♔  03:14, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The page had TCC listed as a possible shorthand for the contest so I used the wrong link. The correct link is User:Casliber/Stub contest -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  23:11, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Fuck Nazi Sympathy
shit, is that the best selling? i would think "doom - police bastard" or "amebix - arise" but i guess i have actually bought "fuck nazi sympathy" twice. does civil disobedience count? their 7" has been in press since it came out in the mid 90s.--Victorhazzard (talk) 08:12, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to go ahead and undo the redirect. It was redirected as "non-notable", but somehow I don't think that the best selling crust EP of all time in non-notable. Jasper420 00:51, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds ok to me -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  19:08, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject banner categories
The following categories are required for the WikiProject Punk music banner to work correctly: but they are currently non-existent and empty. Should we create these categories or adjust the banner so that they are not required? -- benzband  ( talk ) 15:24, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Category:Punk music articles needing attention
 * Category:Punk music articles needing infoboxes
 * Category:Automatically assessed Punk music articles
 * The first two are necessary so that the template fits the generic WikiProject template criteria for the Kingbotk plugin of AutoWikiBrowser. This way, articles can be easily and quickly assessed and added to the WikiProject. I've created the appropriate pages. The third, I'm not sure is necessary- Do we even have any bots working to assess Punk music articles? At the same time, it doesn't really get in the way. I wouldn't mind if it was kept or removed.Wall Screamer (talk) 15:35, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I dunno either :) I'll just leave it then. benzband  ( talk ) 21:12, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Article for Sundials (band) or not?
Would someone be kind enough to tell me if they think that this band is notable by Wikipedia standards? Here are some sources, but this is not at all my area of expertise, so I don't know if the sources are high-quality enough:


 * http://rvamag.com/articles/full/19041/rva-no-12-sundials


 * http://www.punknews.org/search?q=sundials


 * http://www.avclub.com/article/watch-the-video-for-sundials-710-200758


 * http://www.jadedinchicago.com/2012/11/sundials-when-i-couldnt-breathe/


 * http://critical-mass-music.blogspot.com/2012/10/music-reviews-sundials-when-i-couldnt.html

Thanks for any response you can give. Invertzoo (talk) 12:51, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

New article Shrapnel (US punk band) (1970s militaristic punk/glam band)
I earlier wrote the article Shrapnel (Welsh punk band) for a band I really like, but ran across another band by the same name from New Jersey. Finally got around to writing on the US band. They were a pretty goofy over-the-top band with a right-wing pro-military theme (no idea how ironically meant), but they have WP:N so I figure they needed an article. If you're curious, they have a clip of them (in Army camo uniforms) on YouTube under Shrapnel "Combat Love" Nov. 1980 on Cable TV . I think the Welsh band is way better, but still this one is good to have for the sake of completeness. MatthewVanitas (talk) 00:38, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Lisa Hammer
Please discuss. Bearian (talk) 22:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Musician in Fenix TX between 2006 and 2013
The Fenix TX article doesn't mention who played bass for them between 2006 and 2013, even though they toured then. Does anyone know who it was? 173.51.123.97 (talk) 04:42, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Genre issue on GA nominated article
Hello. An editor and I have hit a stand still in an article related to this project regarding genre. Could some editors weight in on it here please? thank you! Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:44, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
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Revisit merge for Wednesday (band)
Please see Talk:Wednesday_13. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:51, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Use of the terms "clean/unclean vocals" on Wikipedia
Should Wikipedia use the terms "clean/unclean vocals"? Weigh in here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians. Fezmar9 (talk) 06:13, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Year Unwritten Law formed
Wade Youman has stated that he was 12 when he founded Unwritten Law in this article. Was he 12 in 1990? I did some research and found here that someone claims that the band's first show was in 1985. Can anyone verify this with any reliable sources? Does anyone know when Youman was born? 173.51.130.250 (talk) 06:14, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

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"Inoculator"
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Pop punk
Is it acceptable to add articles about pop punk bands to this WikiProject? — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 16:51, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yup. Go crazy. Jasper420  17:00, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Help me research Inner Terrestrials
I just stumbled on Draft:Inner Terrestrials - it is a fairly busy band in the British DIY and festival scene. With its interviews and reviews only in fanzines such as Peppermint Iguana, I don't think I should promote it to article space, as it is likely to quickly end up at Articles for Deletion. Can you help me with some research to find reliable sources to demonstrate notability? --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 09:51, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

There are 11 reviews and interviews listed at http://www.innerterrestrials.co.uk/category/reviews/. Could someone familiar with the underground scene read through them and identify if we have at least one reliable source? (10 are in English and 1 in German) ( TheRoughneckRiot, Shufflecore, Warzone, Peppermint Iguana x 2, Beats, Bacteria, 1000 Aspirins, Reason to Believe, Live4Metal, Kink Records ) --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 11:55, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Some originals of above I could find online (I guess the others are print only, subscription or defunct. Live4Metal is in the Wayback Machine, but I couldn't find this review there.) --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 13:09, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 * http://shufflecore.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/inner-terrestrials-tales-of-terror.html Shufflecore review
 * Machine translation of the German review at Kink Records
 * http://www.bacteria.nl/newsletter_oct03.htm#26.09.03. Bacteria review
 * http://www.peppermintiguana.co.uk/SOUNDS/INTERVIEWS/INNERTERRESTRIALS.htm
 * http://www.peppermintiguana.co.uk/SOUNDS/INTERVIEWS/INNERTERRESTRIALS_08.htm

--Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 13:50, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I bet that Last Hours zine establishes notablity. I found an IT gig review from 2009. Also an interesting passing mention.
 * I don't know if this couple of mentions in Google Books are significant coverage, or trivial.
 * My conclusion is that the Last Hours review, along with the video interview of the band that Christopher Lee published, meet general notability guidelines, while the other reviews might bolster the case a little, particularly Peppermint Iguana, that seems to be quite well known in the scene.
 * What do you think?

Before I wrote above, I hadn't read the 'Others' section of WP:MUSIC that says "Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable sub-culture" - above list will certainly make that argument. Let's move the draft to main article space. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 14:34, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

See also mainstream http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-200418551.html --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 14:41, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Spumuq posted at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard:
 * Do you have a chosen reference that you think is an RS? I looked at the references but they did not look like RS to me. 13:41, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

This is my reply:

When I posted at Reliable Sources Noticeboard I hadn't read the non-mainstream section of the WP:MUSIC notability guideline. This is the latest list of sources that, on reflection, I personally consider to be reliable in this context. I think most of the others might be reliable. By 'others' I mean Bacteria, Kink Records and Shufflecore, according to WP:MUSIC, and the rest listed at the band's own site but not used in the article, (because I don't have access to the originals) but I don't know enough about the scene to decide.
 * 1) http://www.peppermintiguana.co.uk/SOUNDS/INTERVIEWS/INNERTERRESTRIALS.htm Inner Terrestrials peppermintiguana (Interview)
 * 2)  (Review)
 * 3)  (passing mention but reliable for mainstream opinion)
 * 4)  (mainstream regional gig notice - only used to support a sentence about a benefit gig; seems to contribute a little toward notability even though it mostly reprints the words of a promoter. )
 * 5)   (Obit (published) by notable underground journalist John Robb (musician) )
 * 6) http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/report-actor-christopher-lee-records-heavy-metal-tune-sung-in-french-video-available/  (Seems to be a reliable quotation of a reputable wire service.)
 * 7)   (A primary source, but relatively independent, and easy to verify by watching the video.)
 * 1)   (A primary source, but relatively independent, and easy to verify by watching the video.)

Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 10:57, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Faith/Void Split
Can we get a consensus on what the hell it's called? The article mentions the title four times and says something different each time. Jasper420 15:00, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

National albums/music charts
Proposal to rename, where appropriate, national music charts articles to territory and format rather than official name, so Swedish music charts rather than Sverigetopplistan, etc. Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Record Charts.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  10:41, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Discussion regarding terminology of singles
I have started a discussion regarding how Wikipedia should define singles. Please go here to discuss.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 19:03, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Charged GBH
I think its time we had a discussion about moving the page to just GBH (band), as they've been know by that name exclusively for a while now, but were most well known as Charged GBH. Jasper the Friendly Punk (talk) 19:50, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

FAR
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Proposed removal of dyingscene.com from the spam blacklist
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Minutemen chronology
Does anyone know the exact release dates (or at least months) of the Minutemen albums My First Bells, The Politics of Time, Tour-Spiel, Georgeless, and Project Mersh so we can finalize chronology? Jasper the Friendly Punk (talk) 15:35, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Looking for FA support for Courtney Love article
Hello all, I've worked quite extensively on the Courtney Love article, and have nominated it for FA status several times but have failed to garner enough supporters to further it beyond the nomination process. I believe the article absolutely fulfills the criteria, and I have gotten supports for promotion each time, just not enough. If anyone would mind looking it over and leaving comments/supporting if you feel so, I'd be very grateful. There does not seem to be many people willing to do reviews of it during the nomination process—I know she is a divisive figure—but I'm hoping I can gather some support to get an FA promotion. Thank you! --Drown Soda (talk) 05:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

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Link Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains into Pat the Bunny or add other bands.
Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains is neither a current band nor the most notable of bands fronted by Pat "The Bunny" Schneeweis. I propose that either the page for Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains be linked into the Pat "The Bunny" Schneeweis page as the other bands do, or new articles should be made for Wingnut Dishwashers Union and Ramshackle Glory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wesborden (talk • contribs) 02:00, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

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FYI: "Is Punk Globe a reliable source?"
I just created a new section at the Reliable sources noticeboard titled "Is Punk Globe a reliable source?" (permanent link), which is relevant to music, especially punk rock. If you have any input, please participate there. Thank you. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 23:36, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Articles for deletion: Animal rights and punk subculture
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Nomination of Portal:Punk rock for deletion
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Punk rock
I have given the pre-FAR notice at Punk rock -- Guerillero  Parlez Moi 21:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

New Page Created
I created a page for the Krum Bums as I saw them listed as a page in need of creation. I did this page as a project for a grad class. Any tips would be appreciated. Thank you! Thehistorian17 (talk) 03:46, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Category:Punk music articles needing expert attention has been nominated for discussion
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2nd FAR on punk rock
I have started the second FAR on the "punk rock" article, so I invite you to discuss improvements on the article quality. --George Ho (talk) 23:47, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Let the Bad Times Roll
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Articles for Deletion: Monster X (band) and Devoid of Faith
If anyone has reliable sources or other ideas, please see Articles for deletion/Devoid of Faith and Articles for deletion/Monster X (band). --Animalparty! (talk) 03:54, 7 December 2021 (UTC)