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Articles for deletion/Alisa Titko
FYI: Articles for deletion/Alisa Titko.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:53, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Address redlink On Reinforcement of the Fight Against Drug Addiction (1974 Soviet law)
Can anyone help me to determine what is the original Russian-language title of this law? Does an article on it exist at Russian Wikipedia? Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 18:29, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I take it it is Об усилении борьбы с наркоманией? Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 05:56, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Mister X
Can Russian-speaking editors take a look at Mister X (1958 film) in its draft to date and provide their thoughts about it on the talk page's discussion here? Feedback about the Russian-language references and any of them being useful would be welcome. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 13:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Request for stub on RUwiki: Toronto District School Board
Any Russophone editors interested in making an RU wiki stub on the en:Toronto District School Board? Please link to the Russian language page at http://www.tdsb.on.ca/languages/ru-ru/home.aspx - It would be very important for Toronto's Russophone community if this article was created.

Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 20:07, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

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Foundations of Geopolitics
The book and by extension the wikipedia page for it, is getting quite a bit of attention lately. However, I realized that the article is almost entirely derived from a review on a site that doesn't look reliable. Harizotoh9 (talk) 17:22, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Talk:Foundations_of_Geopolitics

Soliciting comments on Russo-Georgian War
I have started a RfC on a certain contentious statement in this article, please help resolve the dispute. I should say that the article is under discretionary sanctions - edit carefully! Banedon (talk) 00:52, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Questionable Section Added to Russian Orthodox Church
A new section has been added to the article on the Russian Orthodox Church cataloguing a long list of atrocities allegedly committed either by the ROC or with its blessing. Unfortunately all of the sources are in Russian. Someone with a decent command of the language may want to vet the new section and carefully check out those sources. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:23, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Problematic article Yorick and Yurick
An editor has created the article Yorick and Yurick, that appears to deal with Vladimir Vysotsky, Oleg Dahl, and Innokenty Smoktunovsky; their relationship to the character Yorick in Shakespeare's play Hamlet; and possibly some kind of connection with secret intelligence services. The article has several aspects that concern me, but mainly the problem is that I am failing to understand what it is actually about (in policyese, what its assertion of notability is); and while it does cite some sources, they are all in Russian so I am unable to determine whether they can be considered to verify the text. And the problem is compounded by the article's creator's limited grasp of English. As it stands I am going to end up nominating it for deletion, but I really hate doing that if there's a chance it's just my failure to understand. Especially as the editor has indicated they will be offline for several months soon, and thus will not be able to argue their case at AfD.

If anyone here is able to help, that would be much appreciated. Perhaps particularly if you speak Russian and can check the cited sources. Thanks in advance to anyone that can pitch in here! --Xover (talk) 16:53, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I think it is pure trivia and must be nominated for deletion per WP:NOT--Ymblanter (talk) 17:39, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The sources confirm specific statements but do not establish the notability of the topic.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:42, 2 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Please note that the article has now been nominated for deletion. Interested editors can follow or participate on the articles entry: Articles for deletion/Yorick and Yurick. --Xover (talk) 06:08, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Help finding sources?
The article for Encyclopedia of bread has been nominated for deletion, but it looks like the book has only been released in Russian. I was wondering if anyone wanted to take a look for sources, particularly academic sources since I'm not sure where to check for those. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  20:15, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Request for Comment - Introduction to Whataboutism
There is an ongoing Request for Comment about the introduction to the article Whataboutism.

You may comment if you wish, at Talk:Whataboutism. Sagecandor (talk) 17:24, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

RfC about Cold War II's "EU/NATO vs Russia" section
I started an RfC discussion at Talk:Cold War II about "EU and NATO members vs. Russia" section. I invite you to discuss it there. Thanks. --George Ho (talk) 14:15, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Seltso (disambiguation)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Seltso (disambiguation). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 06:36, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

merge discussion at Baltic amber
There is a merge proposal that could benefit from additional eyes at Baltic amber-- Kev min  § 17:28, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Dear Participants of WikiProject Russia Thank you for your efforts and contribution of Wikipedia. From my understanding, North Korea nuclear issue is quite related to many parts of Russia. Please refer to this Invitation to AfD and let us know your opinion for this article whether it should be "Keep", "Delete", "Merge", "Redirect", or other view Comment  on the top page of Peace Treaty with North Korea, please click the link this article's entry for your valuable opinion. Goodtiming8871 (talk) 10:27, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Reference link : Wikietiquette about AfD

honorific_suffix for Russians
К вашему сведению,, без всяких обсуждений, начал массово добавлять некие honorific_suffix для русских персоналий. Как вам это? --XXN, 22:49, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It likely needs to be reverted, but somebody should talk to the user first.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:10, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Small Favor if Anyone's Interested
Over at Baal Hammon, the first reference appears to be in Russian -- I think I see the word "Moscow in there":


 * Дьяконов И. М. Языки древней Передней Азии. Издательство Наука, Москва. 1967

If anyone wants to spare a minute, I would appreciate if I could get an English translation of the title.

Thanks in advance,

Alephb (talk) 08:37, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * , the author is Igor M. Diakonoff, Iranica translates the title as Languages of ancient West Asia.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:30, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I appreciate it. Alephb (talk) 14:45, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

RfC on lead sentence for Abram Petrovich Gannibal
I started an RfC on the lead sentence of the article and how the subject should be referred to. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:57, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism on Template:Terms for types of country subdivisions
Terms for types of country subdivisions https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Terms_for_types_of_country_subdivisions&diff=808466871&oldid=808465621 Can someone intervene? User:Ezhiki, User:Ymblanter? 85.181.98.181 (talk) 18:17, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * removal of items (e.g. the Service districts, School district, National capital region, National capital territory)
 * mislinking items (e.g. Land district changed to Lands administrative divisions of Australia)
 * addition of country specific items on top of the general term (e.g. County municipality plus County municipality (Norway), County municipality (Nova Scotia))
 * missorting of items (e.g. Mountain resort municipality not below Resort municipality)
 * missorting of top-level items : Canton before Borough
 * turning general item into country-specific item (e.g. Special district into Special district (United States))
 * removing part of the name from the label (e.g. Non-metropolitan county changed to Non-metropolitan)

Item linking in Wikidata - duplicates
But the Russian items had been connected in Wikidata long before. User:Ezhiki created the enWP items, User:GZWDer (flood) created new items for enWP. No interwiki links between ruWP and enWP for more than a year. 77.180.100.52 (talk) 22:38, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Moskovskaya zastava Municipal Okrug - https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q25059076&action=history
 * Pulkovsky meridian Municipal Okrug - https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q25041722&action=history
 * Porokhovye Municipal Okrug - https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q25045248&action=history
 * Krasnenkaya Rechka Municipal Okrug - https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q25044591&action=history
 * Narvsky Municipal Okrug - https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q25045165&action=history
 * Aptekarsky Ostrov Municipal Okrug - https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q20311541&action=history

Would have helped if Ezhiki would have connected the new items correctly in Wikidata. 77.180.100.52 (talk) 22:39, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Editing help needed
More eyes needed for article improvement on Useful idiots where the current Russian interference in the US elections issues seem to have spilled over. SPECIFICO talk  19:26, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Naming discussion
Comments are requested at Talk:Lada (goddess) regarding what should be the primary topic for the term Lada, if any. Thank you. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 01:28, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Requested move discussion at Holocaust trials in Soviet Estonia
The discussion can be found here: K.e.coffman (talk) 01:58, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Talk:Holocaust_trials_in_Soviet_Estonia

Russian declension
Regarding the article on Russian declension.

I'm new to the Russian language. Can you tell me why the order of the cases in the wikipedia tables is nom, acc, dat, gen, etc. instead of nom, gen, dat, acc? I asked the instructor of the class I'm taking. They confirm that the usual order is nom, gen, dat, acc. Why are gen and acc switched in the wikipedia tables? Compare to the Russia Today rt.com tables.

-- Thanks Telecomtom (talk) 20:00, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The standard order in Russian is indeed NGDA, I am not sure why it is done differently in the article.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:55, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The case order is pretty accidental and established rather by tradition then by logic. The NOM-GEN-DAT-ACC order is quite old and traced back to the first Greek and Latin grammars. Expectedly, the authors of the first Russian grammars followed that familiar order. However, coincidentally the traditional order somewhat resembles case hierarchy. The reason why in materials for learners of Russian NOM is followed by ACC is because NOM=ACC for a certain class of nominals.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 20:18, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Question over the flag of the Russian Empire
Hi everyone. We would appreciate the input of someone who is familiar with historical Russian flags over at Talk:Russian Empire. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 02:32, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

LiveJournal
Hi, there is a discussion here about whether the LiveJournal blog site is wholly unreliable as a source or whether some users such as bmpd.livejournal.com are regarded as reliable. &mdash; Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 19:06, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

File:Lob flag moskovskiy.svg
In the discussion in pl.wikipedia user pointed out that you use this flag in several articles. It's not correct (also, check its description... Fantasy flag! Do not use in articles!). Regards, Wostr (talk) 00:33, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
 * In Russian Wikipedia we actually discussed this some years ago and devised a rule ВП:НЕГЕРБ, that disapproves the usage of (largely invented in modern times) flags and COA for any state entities before roughly the 17th-18th centuries, except for medieval Western Europe, where heraldic tradition was some 500 years older (that is, it's OK to show the COA for, e.g., France from the 12th century onward, but not so for, e.g., Ancient Greek states). Unfortunately, I know no such a rule in English Wikipedia, because the problem is much wider than Russian topics, but has permeated a lot of historical articles.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 21:34, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
 * In pl.wiki we have the same problem with many fictional flags and COA (especially ancient history I think, but recently also with fictional/not official flags of modern states). Thank you for the info of the ru.wiki rule – I'll keep this in mind (and in bookmarks ;), because this problem in pl.wiki is not regulated and this may be helpful in the future. Wostr (talk) 22:50, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

PutinTeam
I'm interested in creating a page about the "PutinTeam" effort (launched by Alexander Ovechkin). Would anybody be interested in helping to improve such an article if I start it? SecretName101 (talk) 05:00, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

I have created a (rudimentary) article for this topic. Feel free to contribute.SecretName101 (talk) 05:53, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject
Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Russia

Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.&mdash; Rod talk 12:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Transport related articles
Kalininsko-Solntsevskaya Line was moved, then moved back, then overwritten with a station article. The content of the line is currently not visible. History must be split.

Also all(?) articles related to items in Russia use "X Type" (uppercase type name). Moscow Oblast not Moscow oblast. Sources also seem to use "-" not "-". But users from outside WP:RUSSIA carry out a move war. 78.55.76.239 (talk) 04:06, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Carry out a move war? I made a few moves in good faith.  You asked for them to be reverted.  I didn't object.  Then an admin screwed up.  Etc.  Don't make it what it's not. Dicklyon (talk) 06:35, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Dicklyon, User:Anthony Appleyard restored it, but SMcCandlish moved again, and User:Jenks24 moved further to an ambiguous name. 77.179.24.246 (talk) 00:09, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure of the sequence, but Jenks24 restored the status quo ante, I believe, so let's discuss and take it from there. Dicklyon (talk) 00:18, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Station article now at page named after a line. Better than any vandal. 213.39.172.112 (talk) 04:14, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It's being dealt with. --  Alex TW 04:23, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Page content undeleted by User:Jenks24. But he re-introduced ambiguous names Shosse Entuziastov (Moscow Metro) (there are two), Aviamotornaya (Moscow Metro) (there are two). Why would one do that? The year-long-standing convention is to use line name in case "X (Moscow Metro)" is ambiguous. All links point to the disambiguated name, and readers get confronted with a redirect. 85.182.117.227 (talk) 07:21, 9 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Start a requested move discussion at the article talk page rather than fracturing it over half a dozen pages. That title is the status quo ante and was uncontroversial for several years before the recent move warring. Jenks24 (talk) 07:28, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Jenks24 - maybe you are not aware of it, but Moscow Metro is expanding, it's the 5th largest system in the world. Also English Wikipedia is growing. New stations became part of the Moscow Metro system and so the old names became ambiguous. The standard way for years is to use the line name as disambiguator. That was done via WP:RMT. This is absolut standard procedure. The mess only start when one user moved the station articles to conform with his newly created lowercase line naming. His target names have not been ambiguous. He even agreed to restore the old version. Anthony restored the old versions. But then SMcCandlish undid restoration of naming according to years-long standard way of naming these articles. And you jumped in and moved the station articles to ambiguous names. Now WP:RUSSIA has ambiguous article titles and since many links have been changed to point to the unambiguous names, users are now greeted with redirect notices, thanks to your moves against years-long consensus. Shame on you! 77.179.24.246 (talk) 00:06, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * There's no shame even if how he helped is not what you'd consider ideal. You should be thanking him for recovering the deleted file. You can still make sure the handful of redirects from unambiguous titles go directly to the right articles, and make sure all the links are appropriately disambiguated.  You want me to help with that? Dicklyon (talk) 00:18, 10 December 2017 (UTC)


 * The move error with Moscow railway pages is described a bit after halfway through the section User talk:Anthony Appleyard. See also long closed discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:09, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

RfC on CONSISTENCY and USEENGLISH (and dashes and capital letters) in Russian train station article titles
Please see Village pump (policy). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ &gt;ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ&lt;  04:31, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

The above user heavily misrepresents the long standing convention, called by him "Option B". He also moves talk around, sections addressing specific policies/guidelines that he had invoked are moved down. 85.182.27.83 (talk) 07:26, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Trying to find answers to two questions about cannabis in Russia
I did a recent expansion to Cannabis in Russia, using translations and cites from two different ru.wikipedia pages to flesh out our history coverage. I have two key questions I'd like to address, but my Russian isn't great so I'm not the best guy for trying to find answers. If anyone speaks Russian and has a moment, I'd appreciate any help with two key questions:


 * How far back does cultivation of cannabis for fiber (hemp) in Russia go? I've seen some vague mentions that Peter the Great promoted it, but was it already present prior to him too?


 * When did cannabis (might appear better in sources as "гашиш") begin to appear as a narcotic drug in Russia? I would assume that it filtered up from the Central Asian states as they were absorbed, but that's just my guess.

If anyone is able to take a quick swing through GoogleBooks and find me a cite or two on either of these topics, we can get the page further fleshed out. Thanks for any help! Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 12:24, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Translation request
Could someone please translate this article? Please ping me when you have. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:06, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Split proposal: List of Russian explorers
It has been proposed that the first portion of List of Russian explorers be split out into its own article "History of Russian Exploration". Your feedback would be welcome at Talk:List of Russian explorers. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 01:09, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Translation help with quote
Hello, the article October: Ten Days That Shook the World contains a quote by Jean-Claude Conesa which seems to have been badly translated - it contains multiple errors. The source cited is in Russian. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. Jessicapierce (talk) 06:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * That is one convoluted quote... I took a stab at it; let me know if it needs further tweaking.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 24, 2018 ; 16:52 (UTC)

Geography help requested for large prehistoric creature article series
I'm a paleontology editor and I've been compiling lists of prehistoric life by geographic region (example) based on data extracted from the Paleobiology Database. As the largest country in the world the prehistoric life of Russia was naturally too diverse to fit in a single article so I've been compiling lists of fossils by federal subject. Unfortunately the database isn't entirely consistent with how it labeled fossils by federal subject of origin. There are variant transliterations, use of geographic regions instead of formal administrative divisions, use of city names in place of federal subjects, and other potential sources of confusion.

I'm not an expert on Russian geography so I need some help to make sense of this all. I've listed all of the various labels from the database under the federal subjects that I think each label is synonymous with or contained within. I was wondering if any of you guys who are familiar with Russian geography could proofread this list and make sure that none of these associations are mistaken. Abyssal (talk) 16:57, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Cup of Russia
Category:Cup of Russia has been nominated for renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. RA 0808 talkcontribs 15:39, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

AfD
Your participation is requested at Articles_for_deletion/Lesokhimik Atsme 📞📧 16:07, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Forgot to add the second article - Articles_for_deletion/Metallurg_Bratsk Atsme 📞📧 18:11, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

How to call Karaite Subbotniks
At Talk:Subbotniks there's a lengthy discussion on whether the article should give "Karaimites" as an alternative name for Karaite Subbotniks. Additional community input would be appreciated. Huon (talk) 22:21, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Learn about Russia. Graduates and Mentors
Dear friends,

From January 26 to May 26, 2018, Wikimedia RU together with partners holds an international competition for writing biographical articles — «Learn about Russia. Graduates and Mentors». The competition is dedicated to graduates and teachers of Russian educational institutions from the Middle Ages to our time. The competition has a nomination for articles in foreign languages, i.e. official UN languages: Arabic, Chinese, English, French, and Spanish.

This nomination has 5 prize-winning places, the main prize is 500 Euros!

We invite participants of your section to take part in this interesting competition. JukoFF (talk) 22:48, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Sorry for my English. It's note my mothertongue. I'm just user of the 'Crimes in the Soviet Union'. I don't know where to ask my question, so I ask it here. Even if I know this is not accurate. In the page 'Crimes in the Soviet Union', § Ideology, you cite a sentence of B. A. Viktorov, Deputy Minister for Internal Affairs, but when did he says that, even approximately ? Thank you for the precision. Christophe ANTHOINE (talk) 21:47, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Jason Jay Smart
I was reviewing this draft and found that majority of the references are in Russian language. Therefore, bringing the same into your notice. Would be great if anyone could verify the reliability of the sources. Thanks! Dial911 (talk) 02:14, 23 February 2018 (UTC) Dial911 (talk) 02:14, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Beslan school siege - inaccuracies?
A user said there are inaccuracies with the Beslan school siege article as explained in This talk page section with sources cited. Would someone mind looking into it? Thanks! WhisperToMe (talk) 19:42, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * They seem to be unhappy with the sources the article uses but they do not have better sources, and they apparently want to push WP:OR. I guess we need to wait until they suggest reliable sources to supercede these in the article.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:45, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I fail to see how pointing out inaccuracies in an article and citing sources to support own statements would qualify as WP:OR. The article in its current state is in fact full of inaccuracies, and what Arbeite19 pointed out is just a drop in a bucket. The question of sources is the cornerstone of the problem here, but it could be unresolvable. Because there are so many controversies surrounding the Beslan crisis, cleaning up the article would ultimately come down to what editors consider to be acceptable sources. Since editors may have propensity to choose some sources over others (simple example: someone may like RT more than CNN or vice versa), there is potential for editing wars. On the other hand, you can't really say anymore that "according to A, there were 32 terrorists" and "according to B, there were 52 terrorists", because by now the major controversies have been cleared and proven (some, even scientifically). I'm sure Arbeite can provide sources as the user is one of the key contributors for the Russian version of the article, but I'm not confident they will be accepted here because many would be in Russian, some would be coming from the Russian state-owned media, others could be from sources like court transcripts or scanned documents. But, if the goal here is to write, in fact, an accurate, full and unbiased article, using some of these sources would basically be unavoidable. Никто не забыт (talk) 15:34, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
 * So far, I do not see them providing any sources at all, they just point out that the sources used in the article are inconsistent. Furhtermore, our policy (WP:RS) does not make any distinction between sources in variuos languages as soon as those are reliable. (English sources are preferrable, but if English sources of acceptable quality do not exist Russian sources are perfectly fine).--Ymblanter (talk) 19:58, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I see at least four different sources provided in the original post that address some of the concerns voiced by the user: two - for the disputed victims count, which refer to the official website of the town of Beslan, and two - in reference to terrorists identities (one is a Russian news agency and another is a research center). Now the question is whether they can be accepted as reliable by En-Wiki? Sources for other inaccuracies would obviously have to be provided separately. Никто не забыт (talk) 22:31, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The first three sources seem to be reliable, the last one is self-publuished and therefore is not a reliable source.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:30, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The last one is hosted on what appears to be a personal website, but it's a copy of the original work, published by currently non-existent ethnographic research center. So the work itself is certainly reliable, but its current available location looks strange. Никто не забыт (talk) 19:39, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 * A reference to a paper publication would be fine.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:46, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 * As was said by the user, the fourth source is not self-published. The list was compiled by a North-Ossetian research center "Charta Caucasica":http://www.tkhostov.ru/beslan/detail.php?ID=1202. Its experts were quoted in multiple Russian and Ossetian news agencies. As for your allegation implying that I'm "pushing original research" just by pointing out inaccuracies in the article, such an accusation seems even more strange and ridiculous given that the article in question is one giant original research itself:


 * 1. OR № 1: the most glaring example can be found in the "The first explosions and the fire in the gymnasium" section. On 2 July 2015 the user going by the nickname Cloud200 took it upon himself to tell us THE TRUTH: "Most evidence points towards a theory presented in August 2006 by State Duma member Yuri Savelyev, a weapons and explosives expert". He didn't provide any sources supporting this statement (that "most evidence" indeed points in any direction). Is this what is called "Neutral point of view" in English Wikipedia? "Listen to this guy, he's an expert, and he's against Putin, that's why everything he says is the truth". At the same time, the official version is presented in a skeptical and disdainful tone ("Torshin says A, but... however... independent Russian media/some Western journalists say B") that unequivocally tells all readers who they should side with. The arguments of both Torshin and Russian journalists who were less than pleased with Savelyev's report are totally absent, there's absolutely no criticism of his views. By the way, the sentence related to "the absence of reports about adhesive tape" is misleading as well as there were two testimonies at Kulayev's trial about it.


 * The aforementioned user who added that passage broke at least two Wikipedia rules (regarding NPOV and OR), but for the last 2,5 years nobody's bothered to ask him to cite sources to that outrageous sentence, or indicated that that section possibly contained OR.


 * So, as of 2017, what this part of the article says about causes of the explosions in the school gym can be summed up as "the good guy Yuri Savelyev says the FSB killed everyone, he's an expert, you should believe him; the bad guy Torshin is a liar, other good guys [insert a link to Western/or "independent Russian media" here] contradict everything he says". No NPOV here, it rode off into sunset. If I wrote something along the lines of "most evidence points to a theory that the US government ordered the destruction of the Twin Towers" in the article on 9/11 while citing "Russia Today" or "The Siberian Times" as my sources or (as in this case) no sources at all, it would be promptly removed as "propaganda". Apparently, the same standards do not apply to articles about Russia.


 * 2. OR № 2: the number of casualties (385 (!)). Where does this figure come from? What sources is it based on? How were the casualties counted? The BBC and Boston Globe articles cited in the preface do not include such figures (the former mentions that "the three-day siege left more than 330 people dead", and the latter talks about "334 casualties"). Who were those "10 other civilians" and what are their names? Why isn't this number reported by the Russian media, even among the journalists opposed to the government? Where is the list of casualties that can substantiate this information?


 * I've already mentioned the official website of the town of Beslan in my previous message:http://www.beslan.ru/index.php/remember_cat_sltd/category/o_sobytiyah/ On that page you can see that the number "333" includes not only the hostages but also FSB officers, civilian and Emercom rescuers. It's the total death toll of the Beslan massacre (excluding the terrorists). This information was further corroborated by the book "Beslan. 3 years later":http://www.pravdabeslana.ru/trigoda/3goda.pdf published in Vladikavkaz, North Ossetia, in 2007. On pages 68-134 there are several tables which include the lists of victims with their full names, the date of birth/death and place of the burial. As these lists indicate, among the victims there were 314 hostages, 7 civilian and 2 Emercom rescuers; 10 FSB officers died during the storming of the school. Even if you take 31 dead terrorists into account, the total number of casualties will be 364 and not 385.


 * This information isn't classified, all English Wikipedia editors needed to do in order to find it was to use, for once, Russian sources, and not English, Zimbabwean or Vietnamese ones.
 * 3. OR № 3 ("Government response" section): "The Russian government defended the use of tanks and other heavy weaponry, arguing that it was used only after surviving hostages escaped from the school" (no source provided). Show me Russian sources where government officials say "we used heavy weaponry after the hostages ESCAPED". Let's see what they actually said during Kulayev's trial:
 * Oleg Akulov, 16th hearing of Kulayev's trial


 * Пострадавших не было уже на момент около 17-18 часов в районе столовой. Там уже никого не было. Всех оттуда вытащили.


 * Victor Sobolev, 43th hearing of Kulayev's trial
 * В 21 час, когда были освобождены заложники, кого раненого выносили и так далее. Когда штурм уже закончился, офицеры были уже в школе, бандиты сопротивление оказывали в подвале в том числе, и по их расположению танк 325 сделал несколько выстрелов – 5 по подвалу. Затем еще 2 выстрела с другой стороны по тем огневым точкам.


 * Here is what the Prosecutor General's office had to say on this subject:
 * На момент производства  танковых выстрелов операция по освобождению заложников была завершена, заложники из спортивного  зала и прилегающих к нему помещений были эвакуированы из здания школы  до 18 часов.
 * As was shown above, the officials talked about the evacuation of hostages, not their escape. So whoever wrote that passage completely misconstrued their words.


 * 4. Another example of "NPOV according to English Wikipedia":"The Russian government downplayed the numbers, repeatedly stating there were only 354 hostages; this reportedly angered the hostage-takers who further mistreated their captives." As in the other cases I've presented, how about checking what was said by government officials themselves? Here's the |TV recording (14:23-14:38) of that controversial moment. What the HQ spokesperson Lev Dzugaev actually said was:


 * В результате той работы, которая проводилась, уточнялись списки тех, кто может находиться в заложниках. На этот час в этих списках 354 человека.


 * Translation:


 * As a result of the work conducted, the lists of those who may be held hostage are being clarified. At this hour, there are 354 people in these lists."
 * He didn't say anything like "there are 354 hostages inside the school". He was talking about the lists of hostages that were being compiled by the HQ with the help of local police, and not about the total number of people held hostage. Dzugaev and Head of the HQ Valery Andreev further elaborated on this subject in their testimonies at Kulayev's trial . Both Russian and foreign journalists showed their total incompetence in handling that matter and misreported what was said during that press conference, only the Russian NTV channel cited Dzugaev's words verbatim.


 * It's remarkable how two different Wikipedias, Russian and English, deal with this delicate matter. In Russian Wikipedia, it's just said that "there was information about 354 people held hostage, and it sparked a major controversy". Then there's a link to a separate article specifically devoted to controversies related to the Beslan massacre, where both points of view (the one held by the media and NGOs on the one hand, and the government - on the other) are represented. On the contrary, the English article is quick to pass judgement and accuses the government of "downplaying the crisis" while citing only articles from the opposition newspaper "Novaya Gazeta", ignoring any other points of view. Very objective. Very unbiased. Standing ovation ensues


 * 5. "Hostage-takers" section contains names of the militants that weren't officially identified as hostage-takers and omits other militants who were:
 * 1) Iznaur Kodzoyev was killed on 13 April 2005, and not in August 2005, as a dubious English article that's currently cited there claims. Kodzoyev was mistakenly identified as a hostage-taker by one of the hostages (Kastuyev) who escaped from the school . There is no mention of Kodzoyev's participation in the Beslan attack in Torshin's report either . So what is his name still doing in the list of officially identified hostage-takers, if the Russian authorities didn't confirm that he was identified at all?


 * 2) Benalia and Larussi weren't identified by the Russian investigators as hostage-takers. They were killed in Chechnya in March 2004, and there haven't been any official statements by the FSB or other Russian law-enforcement agencies indicating that these Arab mercenaries might have survived. Alexander Torshin refuted the reports in the British press about Benalia and Larussi's participation in the attack several days after they were published . According to the Prosecutor General's office, there were two foreign mercenaries among the terrorists killed in Beslan, whose names were Abu Faroukh and Magomed.


 * 3) Who is this Khaula Nazirova? Does this person even exist? There have been absolutely no confirmations of her participation in the Beslan attack in Russian sources. And this section of the article is a blatant original research as it's precluded by a sentence stating that "in April 2005, the identity of the shahidka female militants was revealed": the Deputy Prosecutor General Nikolay Shepel never even mentioned this name in the articles links to which are provided, whoever wrote that passage attributed to him the words he never said. Not to mention the nature of the "source" of this information about Nazirova that states that "an unknown Chechen rebel group called the Black Widows organised the siege of a school" (?!) (are you kidding me? is this what is now considered "a reliable source" in English Wikipedia on the Beslan school siege?). Even Shamil Basayev, the mastermind behind the attack, said in his statement on kavkazcenter.com that he sent two female suicide bombers to the Beslan school, and not three as written in this ridiculous article. Facepalm


 * 6. The map of the school that is used in the article is completely wrong as well, as can be seen from the aforementioned book "Beslan. 3 years later" (floor plans of the school and maps of the surrounding territory are on p. 158-161), as is the rough plan of Emercom rescuers' vehicle approach on 3 September: they drove to the school along Kominterna Street and not through School Lane as the passage to the school building is blocked by garages.


 * This is not the full list of inaccuracies in the article; there are still many more there. I don't see any way right now how it can be drastically improved given the current Russophobic political climate. I just leave this message here as indication of how "objective and unbiased" English Wikipedia is in relation to Russia. Arbeite19 (talk) 16:28, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * What you have written above is exactly original research.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:51, 31 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I think a good way to approach disputed content in the Beslan article is to find a full copy of the official Duma report preferably on official Russian government servers. Then we can compare that report to press coverage. If the Western media/NGOs actively dispute what is in the report Wikipedia can say: "The Duma report stated A, the BBC/CNN/etc stated B." - If early western media/NGO coverage stated one thing, the Duma report stated another, and the western media/NGOs don't dispute the Duma finding, it's easy to conclusively say the Duma finding is true.
 * For example we can state the initial reporting that Kodzoyev was involved but that his name isn't in the Torsin report (if in the past it was hosted on Russian government servers I might be able to retrieve it)
 * We can use the Kommersant sources. If there is a rough consensus of the dates in international sources and/or in the report, use those. If they're still disputed, state which sources say which dates.
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 18:08, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Exactly.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:12, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * As for the Yurii Savel’ev report, if that and the Torshin report differ, say "Torshin's report stated A, Savel’ev's report stated B" WhisperToMe (talk) 18:50, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Right, and the original synthesis is not really needed. We are not here to perform independent investigations.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The next step could be to go through each argument. If an argument simply is about inconsistencies in facts/dates this can be remedied. If synthesis is used as part of a particular grievance the argument can't be included and that particular argument may not be able to be remedied. That way we can clarify inconsistencies (W says A, X says B, Y says C) or early misinformation that is broadly agreed to be false.
 * My understanding is that the number of deceased victims is a settled fact, so any early misinformation on that can be remedied.
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 20:52, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

I went ahead and got some of the easy stuff taken care of (found that the correct death count was 334 excluding terrorists) and noted that Benalia and Larussi were not named as suspects by the Russian authorities. Khaula Nazirova was removed as I could not verify her placement. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:44, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The correct death count is 333. Никто не забыт (talk) 11:11, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * WaPo stated it was 334 because on woman died from her injuries in 2006, years after the event. Its possible the Russian authorities/Beslan city didn't count her death because she died so long after the event. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:28, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * 333 includes her. News websites throw conflicting numbers at different points in time, but none provide actual lists of names, which would be the only way to verify the correct number of victims. Никто не забыт (talk) 04:23, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * There is a list of names at Archives de Beslan: 186 children, 133 adult hostages (1 adult hostage, Elena Sergeevna Bekuzarova was mistakenly put in the child list so I moved her over), 10 special forces and 2 non-hostage civilians (grouped w/ special forces) adds up to 331. However the librarian who died in December 2006 from a hematoma, Yelena Avdonina, is not listed there. WaPo says two hostages died in 2005 and one died in August 2006 (the article doesn't say who these hostages are).
 * Determining the number of deaths in an incident/accident can be tricky; many aviation accident reports have classified people as being "injured" instead of "killed", even though they later died, because they died over one month or over one year after the accident.
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 07:41, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

I thought about the "A says X, B says Y format" and it can be used with the Savelyev minority report too. Savelyev says A, journalist/official says B. I do think Torshin should in general get more weight (meaning more coverage in the article) than Savelyev since Torshin was the majority report (meaning the report supported by the majority of the Russian Duma). When collecting Russian language news reports that contradict Savelyev it may be good to quote the relevant passages so editors know which original passages are being referred to. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:28, 30 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think that is the right way to go about it. Thank you again, by the way, for your edits in the main article: it feels so good not to see this ridiculous "385" figure there anymore.


 * There's another Russian source you can use:http://www.pravdabeslana.ru/zakluchenie.htm It contains lots of information on the storming, what Special Forces assault teams did etc. It further confirms (along with Torshin's report) that there were 10 casualties among the Federal Security Service officers who participated in the operation, with descriptions of the exact details of their deaths provided. Right now, the article on the Beslan attack states that "It is not known how many members of Russia's special forces died in the fighting", while citing 2 Western newspaper articles from September 2004 and another one from August 2005 (where the journalist, I suppose, just used the figure published right after the attack). Different numbers reported in the immediate aftermath of the Beslan massacre cannot be used as a basis for such a conclusion (that "it is unknown how many members of Special Forces died") as there's, naturally, a lot of initial confusion, rumors surrounding events like this. By the same token, I can open the article on the Sandy Hook Massacre and write something along the lines of "it is not known how many people were killed by Adam Lanza as figures reported ranged from [insert different figures out of newspaper reports from 14—15 December 2012 here], but there are 26 names inscribed on the "Rock of Angels" monument".


 * A remark about the absence of exact information on the number of casualties would have been justified if there were serious controversies in the media, with journalists discussing why such and such FSB officers were absent from the official list, but there were none. Even an anti-government "Novaya Gazeta" didn't question that number. Arbeite19 (talk) 07:45, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * You're welcome! I looked at the "Special Forces" stuff and revised it to the final tally. I agree that there doesn't seem to be any controversy with that.
 * As for "Заключение комплексной криминалистической (ситуационной) экспертизы по действия оперативного штаба по управлению контртеррористической операцией 1-3 сентября 2004 г. в г.Беслане" - Thanks for linking this document! I wonder if it was ever hosted on a government server.
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 17:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * It was hosted on the official website of the Russian Prosecutor-General's Office:http://genproc.gov.ru/smi/news/genproc/news-68709/, but the link is dead, unfortunately, and I can't find an archived copy anywhere:(.
 * Arbeite19 (talk) 17:34, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * It might help to e-mail the webmaster and tell him/her the link to http://www.genproc.gov.ru/img/uploaded/zakluchenie_27.12.doc is broken. Hopefully that will help! WhisperToMe (talk) 18:36, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Persecution of Eastern Orthodox Christians listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Persecution of Eastern Orthodox Christians to be moved to Anti-Eastern Orthodox sentiment. This page is of interest to several relating WikiProjects and interested users may want to participate in the discussion here. Sorabino (talk) 21:49, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Naliboki massacre and Koniuchy massacre -- Russian sources
Both articles at present mainly cover the modern Polish view that these were massacres against civilians (who were merely armed for "self defense" against "marauding bandits"). Soviet partisan accounts differ markedly (describing raids against armed garrisons that collaborated with the Nazies and were hostile to the partisans), e.g. this after action report for Naliboki -. I would appreciate if someone could attempt to locate Russian sources on the same battles - which are a bit more obscure than the Polish sources - as these were minor engagements in partisan history, whereas modern Polish historiography has framed these as part of "crimes against the Polish nation" portraying them as massacres of hapless civilians.Icewhiz (talk) 07:12, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Monitor and cleanup needed at Poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal
I have begun some initial work on improving this article, it has a few wording and NPOV issues at this stage. Any assistance/eyeballs would be good. AusLondonder (talk) 14:14, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Avant Festival
Hi! I participate in AfC on English Wikipedia. References for this draft are in Russian language. Please see if someone with good command over Russian and English language can help reviewing it. Thanks! Dial911 (talk) 06:58, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Russian for Law Against Rehabilitation of Nazism
I created an article about Law Against Rehabilitation of Nazism, but I cannot find it's name in Russian. Perhaps it has a page on ru wiki we can interwiki link? And is there a page with the official text of the law? English translation would be a bonus. It would be good to link it from external links. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Its name is imperceptible: Федеральный закон от 05.05.2014 г. № 128-ФЗ О внесении изменений в отдельные законодательные акты Российской Федерации. --FITY CHANGE (talk) 16:16, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Title: "Slavic paganism" or "Slavic religion"?
More opinions needed in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Historical_Slavic_religion#Historical_Slavic_Religion,_What_Gives? this discussion].--Eckhardt Etheling (talk) 07:36, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

International organization membership of Russia
Напишите статью, пожалуйста--Станислав Савченко (talk) 03:27, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Ending the system of portals
Hello, there's a proposal to delete all Wikipedia portals. Please see the discussion here. --NaBUru38 (talk) 14:01, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Consensus-seeking discussion notice
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Vaaju
I've been working on Ivan the Terrible and His Son Ivan, a painting in the news recently due to vandalism. Quite naturally most sources are Russian, and even the French language version of the article uses predominantly Russian sources. Any additions would be welcome, but I have what I hope is a simple question: is Vaaju a reliable source? I have found this article which may be useful but I'm reluctant to use it as a source until I'm sure that it's any good. Regards, violet/riga [talk] 20:14, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Kazakh 1-st Civil War
This draft is liable to be deleted for lack of editing activity. Should it be moved to mainspace? Anyone want to help improve it? Calliopejen1 (talk) 03:35, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I will have a look, thanks for the notification.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:35, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Want to add info to a an article, but don't know how thus I don't want to mess it up!
I wanted to add some context to the "two finger" vs "three finger" thing on the "Raskolniki"/ Old Believers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Believers article, but I don't know how to edit WIki pages. I have some genuine material for this, and this point is entirely missing from the article. Can somebody help me edit that article? I really want to set the record straight! thank you Sveta — Preceding unsigned comment added by SV1005 (talk • contribs) 06:14, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Grand Duchesss Anastasia Article
Hello,

There's a dispute about Anastasia's nickname "shvybzik" on Talk:Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna of Russia. A source claims that is a German colloquialism. My understanding is that the word is Russian for something like "imp." I was wondering if any of you Russian experts might be able to help on the issue, or at least explain how this word that does not exist in German can be a German colloquialism. Thanks!--Ermenrich (talk) 17:38, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I do not think this word exists in Russian. I am a native Russian speaker.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:45, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * My wife (also native speaker) knew the word, though she says it obviously isn't Russian originally. It's obviously not a German word though, which is the alternative claim.--Ermenrich (talk) 23:47, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

The territory of....
.....Cumania plays a big role in Russian ethnicity, Russian cossack traditions and of many ethnic groups in Volga, Ural and Mos(k)calina regions. It reached till the Ural. Lot's of the vast Russian territory is still unexplored. Cumania--92.202.208.5 (talk) 04:30, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Moskovskiy Komsomolets or Moskovskij Komsomolets
A discussion regarding the English transliteration of this newspaper's name is currently active at Talk:Moskovskiy Komsomolets. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 02:35, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Cyrillic advice merge
Please see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style

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Draft:Nikolay Antipov
Draft:Nikolay Antipov was on the verge of G13 deletion, but the man is obviously notable. It looks like a machine translation of ru:Антипов, Николай Кириллович. Can anyone help with copyediting and adding a few sources? Thanks! Sam Sailor 19:36, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I can do it but only I am back to normal regime in two weeks (and hopefully will not forget)--Ymblanter (talk) 09:40, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Move discussion, Talk:MR-443 Grach
There are some sources in Russian being presented at Talk:MR-443 Grach in support of a move to MP-443 Grach; this move would also cause other page titles to change. Would it be possible for someone to verify the reliability of the sources being cited? I don't think any of the administrators who normally close discussions at Requested moves are fluent in Russian. Dekimasu よ! 17:55, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I will have a lok next week if still needed at that point.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:46, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Tsarevna Anna Mikhailovna of Russia
There's a discussion at Talk:Tsarevna Anna Mikhailovna of Russia at which I'd appreciate input. TIA Andrewa (talk) 19:11, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Error in Russian & English article for the Gaysky district in Orenburg Oblast
There is something wrong on these pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaysky_District https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD It is not clear where this area belongs to:.

This picture (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gaysky_District,_within_Orenburg_Oblast.png) and this picture (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD_%D0%9E%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B1%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B3%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8.jpg) say that the "tongue area" on the top right of the raion (including the settlement Mirny, Ми́рный) belong to the raion; but the linked GPS coordinates at the top of the page (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD#/maplink/0) say that the "tongue area" (including the settlement Mirny, Ми́рный) does NOT belong to the Gaysky raion. '''To which raion does the Mirny settlement in the Orenburg region belong? ''' C-Kobold (talk) 15:46, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not exactly sure what is going on, but there is no city of Mirny in Orenburg Oblast. There are two rural localities with this name, one belongs to Alexandrovsky District, another one to the city of Orsk.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:07, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * , Indeed, Yandex Maps state that the settlement of Mirny you mention belongs to the city of Orsk.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:12, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick answer, research and explanation! When I have some time (tomorrow maybe), I will correct the two pictures. C-Kobold (talk) 18:25, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. This map can help to understand the borders.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:37, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Da Vinci Learning?
Hi,

I work for Da Vinci Media, the company that runs Da Vinci Learning and all subsidiaries. I was wondering why this is in the Project Russia project?

-Gareth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garethdavinci (talk • contribs) 10:47, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Occurrence of "Tatar" in India
Persian Literature in Translation mentions Tatars accompanying Timur into Delhi. In the Badaun district of U.P. India, there is a village by the name of Tatarganj, which corresponds to "Tatargrad" or "Tatarsettlement". A distant cousin's wife from that area told me that she was "Pathan Tatar", a term that I had never heard before. She explained that they were Khiljis. The Khiljis are considered a Turkic people by historians. They preceded the emergence of the Mongols. In Afghanistan they are considered Pushtun & are called Ghilzai. The Ghilzai sub-tribes include the Suri, Ghorid dynasty (who are Suri), Lodhi, Niazi & Hotaki, among others. (Though one of the Hazara tribes in Afghanistan are called Khilji). They are linked with the Buddhist Turki Shahi that ruled Kabul & are said to have arrived from Tibet, yet are also linked with the Xiongnu and the Huns. --Jafferfj (talk) 02:24, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Splitting a huge navbox
Interested editors are invited to comment on the proposal I made there: Template talk:Ukrainian crisis navbox. — JFG talk 20:11, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Kalina / Kalinka...
....is a national symbol of Russia. You should have this under your scope too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viburnum_opulus --85.212.242.119 (talk) 22:15, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Review of Irakli Tsereteli
Hello, I recently had the article Irakli Tsereteli up at FAC, and it didn't pass mainly due to lack of reviews. It was suggested before I resubmit to have someone go over it outside the FAC process, so I'm wondering if anyone here is willing to do so? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. Kaiser matias (talk) 16:58, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

IB Russian inhabited locality replacement
I created a new version of Infobox Russian inhabited locality based on Infobox settlement (test cases found here); feedback and comments on the template's talk page would be most welcome.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 07:29, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, but we already have Infobox Russian rural locality and Infobox Russian town and Infobox Russian urban-type settlement which cover all possible varieties.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:30, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Russian museums on the List of music museums
Hi there, I have introduced the List of music museums and quite some Russian articles do have an article in Russian but not in English. Are there users at this project that like to write some or all of these articles? When you make use of references, I will translate these articles to Dutch language too. :-) Ymnes (talk) 13:52, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Help with Russian language sources
Hi could a Russian language speaker help analyse the sources on Taz language. It is spoken by less than 300 people and I can't tell if it was really a language or not at one point and if the sources point to notability or not. --Dom from Paris (talk) 17:07, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Ethnic.ru refers back to the Russian Wikipedia and therefore is not a reliable source.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:42, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Souces in Russian Language waiting to be verified and reviewed in the Draft:House Kuadzhe
Greetings, I have been editing and improving my article for two months now. I have been told that the style of the article is okay by the online English help but they could not verify my sources since they are not in English. Can you help me? Yahya Kuadzhe (talk) 20:29, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

RfC on election/referendum naming format
An RfC on moving the year from the end to the start of article titles (e.g. South African general election, 2019 to 2019 South African general election) has been reopened for further comment, including on whether a bot could be used move the articles if it closed in favour of the change: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (government and legislation). Cheers, Number   5  7  15:39, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Featured quality source review RFC
Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. --IznoRepeat (talk) 21:47, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Discussion about the title of the article Kaliningrad question
There is a discussion about whether/what to retitle the article currently tiled Kaliningrad question. Please chime in on the article's talk page. SecretName101 (talk) 18:22, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Great power article: Map
Following quite nasty edit-war, I started discussion on the Great Power article talk page about map in the article. Main topics for discussion: What countries should be on the map? Should the map show some sort of hierarchy of great powers (eg. using colours)? Would not be better to remove the map altogether? So far, only IPs and new accounts entered this discussion, so input from experienced editors would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Pavlor (talk) 08:26, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Autocrat of All the Russias?
An editor, Happyturkeyday (talk), is changing the succession parameters entries in articles of Russian emperors to include "Autocrat of All the Russias". Should the parameter text be left as it was before or should this change stay? --Thinker78 (talk) 06:50, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * There was indeed smth like this in the title (I am not sure this is a precise translation, but not too far from the correct one), but all monarchs have a bunch of titles, which we typically do not add to the infobox.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:55, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Help with draft
Could Draft:Skorobogatov German Alexanderovich possibly by sourced to meet our notability guidelines? Any comments on the draft are also welcomed. Please use either Yet Another Articles for Creation Helper Script by enabling, or use  directly in the draft. Thank you. Sam Sailor 12:47, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Sámi vs. Sami vs. Saami
Please see: Talk:Kildin Sami orthography – multi-page RM primarily about diacritics in an endonym. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  19:22, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Help at Articles for Creation
Can someone please help at AfC with Draft:Playtronica? Many of the references are in Russian and I do not read the language. If you can let me know if the ones used meet guidelines for notability I would appreciate it. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:32, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * You can also try using Chrome which has a translation tool. Thinker78 (talk) 05:20, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . I normally do that do ensure that the references contain the content they are used to reference; however, I would not be able to evaluate any of these references to know if they are actually reliable either. --CNMall41 (talk) 07:11, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Ref. 12 (Afisha Daily) is clearly reliable and describes the startup in some depth, not merely mention it.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:54, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . If there is at least one more like that I will move it to the main space. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:13, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * All other Russian sources in the article are news items on websites of commercial companies - they are probably taken from elsewhere, but the source of this elsewhere is unclear. However, Ref. 4 looks fine to me. If I saw that as a new page patroller I would probably leave the page in the article space.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:18, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Suicide Rates in Russia in 2016
According to this WHO Report the rates of suicide in Russia in 2016 (and 2015) are much more than the ones mentioned in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.69.98.27 (talk) 21:26, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Discover the world. Start with the sister cities
Dear friends and colleagues,

We invite you to take part in the international contest “Learn the world. Start with twin cities” which is held from 1 November 2018 to 1 March 2019 and is organized by “Wikimedia RU” together with partners. Web page of the contest: "Discover the world. Start with the sister cities The purpose of this thematic marathon contest is to create articles in all languages of the world about the sights of cities and regions of Russia and their foreign sister and partner territories. Twin cities and partner territories are territories which have permanent friendly relations for mutual acquaintance with life, history and culture of each other.

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Russian Federation anthem lyrics been messed up
https://postimg.cc/CnN1LH30 This is most likely a troll edit, as I cannot see any known source for "da wae" other than Ugandan Knuckles. VV ORIGINAL LYRICS VV Russia – our holy nation Russia – our beloved country. A mighty will, great glory – These are yours for all time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:446:4301:15BA:AD48:CF24:4A94:3113 (talk) 02:29, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Is Draft:Bednot groups a notable topic?
Russia experts, could one of you weigh in on if Draft:Bednot groups is a notable topic? Or if it should be rolled in with another article? --Cerebellum (talk) 00:31, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Oldest template red links
The oldest template red links in Wikipedia include two links in Template:Russian music -> Music of Chechnya and Music of Dagestan. These have been red links since 2005. Does anyone want to tackle these articles? bd2412 T 00:03, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Russian Empire for deletion
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Tatar slave raids in East Slavic lands
A bit of edit warring going on in this article, if anyone would like to take a look. See talkpage. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:42, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, 'cause god forbid somebody remove poorly translated content unsourced copied from Russian Wikipedia. Oh, wait, that stuff isn't supposed to be in Wikipedia.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 15:10, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Abkhazia for deletion
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Nomination of Portal:Crimea for deletion
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Nomination of Portal:Saint Petersburg for deletion (2nd nomination)
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RT
Hello. You are invited to participate in two related RfCs: Talk:5G and Talk:RT (TV network). R2 (bleep) 18:26, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Discussion on notability of Aluminum internal combustion engine on the reliable sources noticeboard
There is a discussion on the notability of the Aluminum internal combustion engine on the reliable sources noticeboard. The discussion involves the reliability of Russian news sources, including TASS. If you're interested, please participate at. —  Newslinger  talk   06:02, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Konstantsiya Royek (Frantsevna)
Is it possible to translate the Russian Wikipedia article on K.F. Royek to English? If one manages to create an article, would it be possible to place it under the category of "Russian People of Polish descent?" http://sputnikimages.com/hier_rubric/photo/577464.html

She was a famous and noteworthy theater (theatre) actress of the Little Theater in Moscow and she had a leading role in the 1957 Mosfilm adaptation of Pygmalion by George Bernard Shaw and adapted for television. IT was a made-for-television movie made in the Soviet Union.

She was noteworthy for her many theater performances and was People's Artist of the RSFSR, which became Russia and was Russia under official Soviet nomenclature. Her father was of Polish descent and she was born in Moscow on July 7, 1923. Patchman123 (talk) 05:36, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

She was related to me through Anton Royek and distantly related as a cousin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patchman123 (talk • contribs) 05:37, 21 June 2019 (UTC) ) and turns it into something like
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Historical census population in lead section
There are many articles that contain a list of the census population in the lede, such as Belgorod, with its second sentence being just: Population: 356,402 (2010 Census); 337,030 (2002 Census); 300,408 (1989 Census). Apart from not being a proper sentence, it is unnecessary to give that information in the lede. Only the latest population should be included, like in most cities in other countries or even in Russia (like Moscow). This is an issue in other Russian cities that use template:Ru-census. If there is consensus, we should remove that template from the lede in all articles. Pinging, who reverted my changes when I removed the template in Belgorod. Vpab15 (talk) 16:47, 29 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I do not see any reason to remove the results of the previous censuses. There were only three relevant censuses, 1989, 2002, and 2010, there is no selection here. I disagree that this information is not important. Moreover, removing templates means removing references, which is not acceptable. Ymblanter (talk) 16:53, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't say it is not important information, I said it should not be in the lede. It can be moved to a different section (Demographics for example). Vpab15 (talk) 16:59, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Vladimir Putin's meeting table
I think the article Vladimir Putin's meeting table should be part of Vladimir Putin, possibly under the Public image section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 191.5.84.223 (talk) 18:25, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Columbine movement
I recently saw this http://www.interfax-religion.ru/new/?act=news&div=79013 on Interfax-Religion and it completely confuses me. What is this movement and is it worth looking into for an article? Immanuelle 💗  (please tag me)  09:27, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Probably it is the Columbine effect. Mellk (talk) 13:22, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Dissolution of Russia
Hi guys, could you take a look at the Dissolution of Russia page, it clearly should be deleted in my view, it is crystal balling and therefore not suitable for an encyclopedia. The first section is 'historical precedents', ie the dissolution of the USSR, then the next section, taking up a good 60% is listing reasons for this dissolution, which hasn't happened, citing mainly one study by one professor. Then there is two quotes, one each from Putin and Medvedev saying how awful it would be if Russia was dissolved. Then a short list of three irredentist movements claiming Russian land. i.e. it is a non-article mostly based off speculation from one professor. It's basically a conspiracy theory except its not presented as such, it's presented as if it's somehow already happened. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.172.27.215 (talk) 00:07, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It's one main souce also seems to be primary, no reliable secondary sources are given. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.172.27.215 (talk) 00:21, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Finnish Civil War
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New category "Entities controlling Crimea"
FYI, Category_talk:Entities_controlling_Crimea was just created. I think the category has problems, please join the discussion at Category_talk:Entities_controlling_CrimeaNewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 15:21, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Value of 250,000 rubles during the Russian Revolution
Talk:Nestor Makhno

Hello! Looking for some assistance contextualizing the size/importance of a 250,000-ruble bank expropriation during the Ukrainian War of Independence/Russian Revolution. Discussion linked above. czar 02:39, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding the user, who has added numerous hoaxes about Russian history to the English and Chinese Wikipedias.. The thread is An_urgent_report_about_a_user:折毛's_hoaxes. Thank you. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 18:53, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Elections in Russia
I believe that pages informing about 2022 elections should inform about the legal contex. War censorship limits discussion and Alexei Navalny is imprisoned.Xx236 (talk) 08:58, 17 June 2022 (UTC)


 * It makes sense, I think it shouldn't be too hard to find this discussed in RS and add it to the relevant article. Alaexis¿question? 18:13, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

"Placeholder" redirects to Russian districts: what are they holding a place for?
User:Ezhiki has created many redirects to Districts of Russia, e.g. redirects to Tyulyachinsky District. Most of these redirects are tagged with r from alternative spelling but I've noticed a couple that are tagged with "for convenience" and per edit summaries were created as placeholder redir. For Tyulyachinsky District these are Tyulyachinskaya and Tyulyachinskoye. I've seen similar "placeholder redirects" created for many other Russian districts. Generally these all end with the letters "kaya" and "koye". Why are these not labeled as alternative spellings; what are these "kaya" and "koye" redirects placeholders for? – wbm1058 (talk) 16:26, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I assume there are localities with the name Tyulyachinsky (can not easily check now though), and I know that Ezhiki intended to create SET index pages for all Russian localities before they sadly went inactive. If Tyulyachinsky is a valid SET index article, Tyulyachinskaya (a feminie form) would be a valid redirect to it. Ymblanter (talk) 16:42, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The locality there – administrative center of the district – is the village of Tyulyachi (population: 3,265). Per the article 13,778 people reside in the district, and "In the Tyulyachinsky district, there are 13 urban and 53 rural settlements within them." The term urban must have some uniquely Russian meaning here if there are 13 such areas in a district with less than 14 thousand people. – wbm1058 (talk) 17:17, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I removed the sentence as obviously incorrect, but indeed I do not see any locations anywhere with the name Tyulyachinsky. Presumably it was indeed intended like a permanent redirect to the district. Ymblanter (talk) 18:38, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pinging me. Yaroslav's is a good explanation; I just wanted to add a bit to clarify the intent behind these.
 * In Russian, all nouns have a gender, with which adjectives must agree. The names of the districts are usually just an adjectivized (is that a word? :)) form of the name of its administrative center; in this case Tyulyachi-->Tyulyachinsky; normally directly transliterated from Russian because that's what's usually done to names that do not have an established conventional English name equivalent (like Moscow, St. Petersburg, et al). The "-sky" ending indicates masculine gender (since the noun "district" (raion) is masculine). But here's the rub. Any entity pertaining to the district will also most likely be named after the district, but the name (an adjective) would have to agree with the entity noun's gender. So, the district administration, for example, would be "Tyulyachinskaya District Administration", because the noun "administration" is feminine. A District's Department of Whatever & Sundry would be "Tyulyachinskoye Department", because the noun "department" is neuter.
 * The thinking was that if any of those entities ever become notable for any reason to deserve coverage, it's pretty much a toss which gender form will end up being used. Say, the District Administration does something awesome or outlandish that an encyclopedia such as ours will need to cover, but that something does not qualify for a standalone article and is best upmerged into the the article about the district (the closest match). There is no expectation a non-native speaker should know that just because it's "Tyulyachinskaya (District) Administration", it does not at all mean that in a district called "Tyulyachinskaya". A redirect covers just such a possibility. It's not an alternative spelling, but indeed just a convenience, a tool to catch a (technically grammatically incorrect) redirect, or help move a search result closer to top.
 * Hope this helps!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 3, 2022 ; 19:28 (UTC)
 * I'm working to deprecate mainspace use of R for convenience and Category:Redirects for convenience as too vague. I think all redirects are for convenience! My thoughts here, and see also Template talk:R for convenience. Currently there are about 2600 redirects tagged with R for convenience and about 1900 of them are this type of Russian-language gendered redirect to a Russian district. I'd like to change these to use a more specific redirect-category-template, and have written a quick PHP script to automate the conversion. Could we use R from adjective or would something else listed on Template:R template index work better? Alternatively we could create a new Rcat template for this usage, and its documentation would be similar to what you just told me above. – wbm1058 (talk) 20:35, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I would be fine with R from adjective; alternatively, we could use R from modification, I would be fine with it as well. Ymblanter (talk) 20:44, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I have no objections to removing the tag (or replacing it with a better one, if one is available; the adjective or modification ones look totally fine). This tag just happened to be the most relevant I could find at the time of redirects creation. I would be against deleting the actual redirects (and I understand this is not at all what you're proposing; but putting it here for the record), since they are providing value, however minute, and cost literally nothing to keep. So if you're just looking at cleaning up the redirect tags structure, you have my full support. Cheers!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 7, 2022 ; 20:46 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for the quick replies. I made a test edit to Momskaya and will take a break now. In a while I'll be making nearly 1900 more edits just like that one. – wbm1058 (talk) 23:21, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks great, thanks. Ymblanter (talk) 05:45, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Followup-sky
I'm down to 31 transclusions in mainspace. 28 of 31 end in "sky". Are these all R from adjective too, or something else? wbm1058 (talk) 23:55, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, these are all indeed R from adjective, as far as I can see.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:05, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Featured Article Save Award for Antarctica
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Assistance with Patrick Lancaster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Lancaster please? it is a new article. Thanks. 666hopedieslast (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:08, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Mono-ideologies in secular Russian philosophy
I want to add a section in this article Mono-ideology on secular takes on mono-ideologies. Is anyone familiar with the term and secular work on them? моноидеология is the Russian word Immanuelle 💗 (please tag me) 08:16, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

A with grave (Cyrillic)
I came across A with grave (Cyrillic) during new page patrol and would appreciate a knowledgeable second opinion. In particular, is it really a distinct "letter"? As opposed to a regular A with a stress mark? –&#8239;Joe (talk) 13:20, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

German A. Korobov
I created a draft for German A. Korobov, a Russian desinger of firearms. I have not found many good souces. Any help would be really appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 06:53, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Slavic Native Faith and mono-ideologies
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Slavic Native Faith and mono-ideologies that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Regards, —usernamekiran (talk) 18:46, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Fresh eyes on Patrick Lancaster article
Hello, can the community look at this article, there is someone who is removing well sourced material from the article during a AFD. 666hopedieslast (talk) 12:18, 13 July 2022 (UTC)


 * As anyone can see, you are trying to cherry pick sources to say that Lancaster is a journalist while removing the fact that when he is mentioned in reliable sources at all, it is as a spreader of Kremlin propaganda, sometimes as a scare quotes “journalist” or “self-described journalist “. I’d suggest looking into as a potential sock puppet: he’s been doing things like posting warnings and reverting to edits made by others on pages since his first day here - joined after the war started. Anyone know who the master could be?—Ermenrich (talk) 12:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I did not remove the statement that "he’s a pro Russian propagandist", instead I moved it into a "Criticism" section which you removed along with many other credible and reliable sources. What is your excuse for deleting the BBC? Look at the last edit I posted.  This  removing the statement that "he’s a pro Russian propagandist" lie needs to be retracted. 666hopedieslast (talk) 13:10, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Since you're repeating yourself in various places, I will as well: You changed the lead to say Patrick Lancaster is a YouTuber who has vlogged from Donbas since 2014. Lancaster's videos have been featured by mainstream media outlets and has contributed to The Telegraph and Sky News.. I invite anyone to look at what that BBC source (from 2017!) actually says about him, namely: Phillips works with a third pro-separatist video maker - American-born Patrick Lancaster. Lancaster also describes himself as an independent journalist. At any rate, you need to hold this discussion at the article talk page.--Ermenrich (talk) 13:17, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

FAR notice - First Nagorno-Karabakh War
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Russian money in London neutrality
Stumbled upon the Russian money in London article, I think it has major problems with neutrality and would benefit from attention of more editors. Looks like a POV fork of Russians in the United Kingdom, however I don't think a merge would be a solution due to WP:WEIGHT. PaulT2022 (talk) 06:49, 16 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I think that the role of London as a haven for (mostly looted) Russian wealth is a legitimate topic and it only overlaps partially with the Russians in the United Kingdom which is supposed to be about the diaspora in general. A lot of those who have facilitated the "investment" are not even Russian citizens, while the great majority of Russians in London are not oligarchs trying to influence the British politics. Alaexis¿question? 12:36, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The topic of illegitimate Russian money in the UK and links between it and politics would make sense, I agree with this (although an article about this issue in general with a detailed section on Russian money would provide a better context IMO).
 * What caught my attention is that the article in question conflates legitimate investment with criminal oligarch funds. I think it should clearer state the topic, whether its indeed about money havens and associated corruption (I certainly didn't get such impression from the current title and contents), or about Russian investment in general. PaulT2022 (talk) 13:14, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Assessment
Hi may I get assessment on the article Chukotka sled dog? Thank you! Annwfwn (talk) 01:52, 19 July 2022 (UTC) ✅ Thinker78  (talk) 15:53, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Alexander Zhukov (businessman) and Georgy Zhukov
Corriere della Sera claims that Alexander Zhukov is related to marshal Georgy Zhukov. Alexander took his wife's surname so if it's true then she must be related to Georgy Zhukov. However I very much doubt it's the case as I have not been able to find any other mention of their relationship. There is an editor who insists on including it so it would be good to get some outside perspectives. Alaexis¿question? 09:19, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Crimea on Russia maps

 * User 78.55.12.169 replaced a neutral map with a Russian NPOV one in 2017 in a number of articles. Many of the NPOV maps are still linked.
 * There are three series of maps - the original ones without Crimea, the NPOV with Russian Crimea and 'Crimea disputed'.

I am sorry but I do not understand why eg. Kostroma Oblast article needs a map with Crimea. It does not inform that Kuril Islands are disputed, so why Crimea?
 * The 'Crimea disputed' maps when small suggest that Crimea is Russian. Its dimensions are 1 or 2 mm times 1 or 2 mm. I am unable to realize the difference of colour. If the map is big - "Show previous image" "<" partially covers Crimea.
 * Please explain me the connection between the Kostroma Oblast and Crimea. Xx236 (talk) 10:36, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * This is pretty common across Wikipedia to mark disputed territories on country maps, cf. Kerala or Bălți. If the problem is that it's hard to discern that it's disputed surely there must be a graphical solution to it. Alaexis¿question? 14:00, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

FAR for El Lissitzky
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Requested move at Talk:Committee for the Prevention of Torture (Russia)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Committee for the Prevention of Torture (Russia) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 12:42, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Biographical image discussion at Talk:Second Cold War
An image of Russian foreign ministry secretary Sergey Lavrov is discussed at Talk:Second Cold War. --George Ho (talk) 20:15, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Drawing of srebrenik
Can you take a look at ? Alaexis¿question? 10:14, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Draft:National Republican Army (Russia)
I have created a draft article for the Draft:National Republican Army (Russia), a group which may be responsible for the car bombing which killed Darya Dugina according to Ilya Ponomarev. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 22:46, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * From what I can see, all articles that exist about it, the claim about responsibility, manifesto etc are all based on what Ponomarev claims, so it is not even known if this group really exists and there does not seem to be anything else that can possibly be added. As of now, I do not think a separate article is warranted. Mellk (talk) 23:49, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * That logo looks Ukrainian. Thinker78  (talk) 15:09, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Russian constitution (disambiguation)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Russian constitution (disambiguation) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 05:15, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

AFD of interest
There is an AFD in progress which may be of interest to this WikiProject: Articles for deletion/Russia's War Crimes House, regarding an article about an exhibition near the World Economic Forum in May.

Relatedly, is there a general article about art, monuments, memorials, museum exhibits, etc. that interpret the 2022 Russia-Ukraine conflict, whether balanced or POVish on either side? I wonder if this article might be merged into, as a possible resolution of the AFD. Or is other coverage of examples that might be combined to make a more general article? Please feel free to comment at the AFD. --Doncram (talk) 23:07, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:SVD-63
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:SVD-63 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 02:35, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Joanik Basilovich
Hello, WikiProject,

I came across this draft, supposedly translated from the Russian Wikipedia, that I thought some editor might be interested in giving a little attention. It is currently unsourced but it looked interesting to me so I postponed deletion of this stale draft. Thank you! Liz Read! Talk! 22:04, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Death and state funeral of Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Death and state funeral of Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 10:50, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

That probably was cryptic... why do we care about that? This RM involves about 50 state funeral articles, including at least one that is related to this WP. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:16, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Pallas's cat
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pallas's cat that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 21:50, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Lanfranco Cirillo
Lanfranco Cirillo, an Italian architect who likely is behind Putin’s Palace now has an article. I believe the editor who put the article into article space has a conflict of interest. I would appreciate it if an editor who is proficient in Russian would take a look at the article. There’s a lot out there on Cirillo and not all of it is praise. Thriley (talk) 23:22, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Two Questions
I've asked similar questions at the Wikipedia Teahouse but it seems the editors there don't tend to have helpful input or do not know how to answer, as Russia tends to fall outside their area expertise, so I hope it's alright to ask here.

1) I am writing an article about a Soviet book published in 1980. The author was still active after the Soviet Union fell and as far as I'm aware his citizenship switched to Russian. I'm wondering whether to label the author as "Russian" or "Soviet". The author is Vladimir Orlov.

2) When citing a source written in Russian, do I transliterate the authors' names in the citation and translate the title, or do I leave them in the original Russian form? Jaguarnik (talk) 00:14, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * For 2, use /  and   parameters if supported by the citation template used (Template:Cite book for example). PaulT2022 (talk) 10:10, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * For 1, I would just mention him as Russian Soviet. He wrote in Russian language anyway.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:47, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Soviet journal copyright
For the article Danilov, the Violist, it was suggested that an image of the "original" cover of the novel should be added. The issue is the novel was published originally in Novy Mir in 1980 and had no "original" book cover. I considered using just the first page, with the title and first page, as a photo for it, but I don't know and was not able to find anything on whether a screenshot of a journal page could be considered as violating copyright. If noone has any ideas here, I'll go ask at Russian Wikimedia. But seeing as this is an image I plan to add to an English-language article, I thought maybe here was a good place to ask for advice first. Jaguarnik (talk) 18:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Republics of Russia has an RFC
Republics of Russia, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Furius (talk) 16:35, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Igor Kirillov (Russian general)
I recently created an article for Igor Kirillov (Russian general). Any help expanding the article would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 03:12, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Eastern Ukraine offensive
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Eastern Ukraine offensive that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 15:00, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Engels (near Saratov)
Здравствуйте, друзья! Статья об Энгельсе в Википедии хорошая, но пропускает весьма знаменитого сына города- когда он еще был Покровском. Это Лев Кассиль, Советский писатель, автор Швамбрании. "Швамбрания" в английском переводе была любимой книжкой моего детства. Можно поместить две строчки о Кассиле в статье? По сей день Дом-Музей активно работает в г. Энгельсе. Всего наилучшего Вам, James Russell Fresno, California, USA 2601:204:201:13C0:CC0:17F9:7C9C:74B8 (talk) 21:01, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I added him to the list of notable people.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:50, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Russian translation for the term "The People's Stick" by Bakunin?
Can someone provide the Russian form of the term "People's Stick" used by the Russian anarchist Mikhail Bakunin, so I can add it to the lede of said article? Thanks! MatthewVanitas (talk) 10:09, 13 December 2022 (UTC)


 * It's called "народная палка" in the source: "Но народу отнюдь не будет легче, если палка, которою его будут бить, будет называться палкою народной" . Alaexis¿question? 14:26, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Mark Zakharov
Some user reverted my edit, concerning Zakharov’s birth name and refuses to talk about his reasons at the talk page. Does anybody else mind adding this real name, which even Zakharov’s best friend, Grigori Gorin mentioned in his memoirs: plus and. Neither in the article now, nor in the whole world you won’t find reliable sources, that his father and his grandfather were the Zakharovs. Otherwise, for their real name you will do. 188.123.231.20 (talk) 18:45, 26 December 2022 (UTC)


 * You should've added the sources when adding the birth name (e.g., the lenta article ) rather than just saying that there are sources in the Russian wikipedia. Alaexis¿question? 19:20, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Could you kindly do that for me? I don’t feel like edit warring. --188.123.231.20 (talk) 19:55, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Done. Alaexis¿question? 21:56, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. --188.123.231.20 (talk) 06:20, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

GAR for Nastia Liukin
Nastia Liukin has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:22, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Krasnoturyinsk
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Krasnoturyinsk that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 02:56, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Timashyovsk
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Timashyovsk that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 02:56, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Shchyokino (town), Tula Oblast
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Shchyokino (town), Tula Oblast that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 03:05, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Russian government censorship of Chechnya coverage
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Russian government censorship of Chechnya coverage that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 15:53, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

removed ban editors
Original:
 * 1) (Russia in global geopolitics)
 * 1) (Russia in global geopolitics)
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This is about Wikipedia:WikiProject Russia/Politics and law of Russia task force maybe it should be archived as inactive? Metro2fsb (talk) 04:36, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

new article
Committee on International Affairs of the State Duma :) Thoughts? Metro2fsb (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:31, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia ads
Template:Wikipedia_ads is there an ad for project russia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metro2fsb (talk • contribs) 03:35, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Quality score for Russian money in London
Talk:Russian money in London

Metro2fsb (talk) 07:30, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Other groups

 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia
 * Russian Wikipedians' notice board/to do
 * WikiProject Russia/Politics and law of Russia task force
 * Wikipedia talk:Russian wikipedians' notice board/RCOTW now defunct.

Metro2fsb (talk) 07:30, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

AfC help
I realize this draft is Soviet Union history but Russia project seems more active hence why I am posting here. Could use help with determining notability for Draft:Gelsomino's miraculous voice. CNMall41 (talk) 22:10, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Village pump (policy)
Tired of ongoing edit-warring across many articles, I opened the above RfC. Please participate. Ymblanter (talk) 23:36, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Renaming Template:ВТ-ЭСБЕ
ВТ-ЭСБЕ – that’s Cyrillic VT-ÈSBE – is used for citing the Brockhaus and Efron Encyclopedic Dictionary in 112 pages. I’d rename to a Latin-alphabet name for accessibility, but I don’t even know what VT stands for. Any advice? If you know what to do, please just go ahead and move it. —Michael Z. 20:54, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Russian Consulate General in Chennai at AfD
Consulate General of Russia, Chennai has been nominated for deletion. Discussion participation welcome. Thanks! Rasnaboy (talk) 18:15, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Assistance required to end deadlock in merger proposal discussion
I've been editing the articles relating to the Scythians over the course of several months, and since most editors tend to favour splitting pages after they reach a certain size, I split two further pages, Iškuza and Scythia, covering the phases of Scythian history respectively in West Asia and in Europe, out of the main page covering the Scythians.

However, trying to split it has resulted into three articles, with both Iškuza and Scythia requiring large amounts of material regarding the role of the prior and subsequent histories of the Scythians in the creation and destruction of those states copied from each other and from the Scythians page to exist since they are both about immediately preceding/succeeding states created by the same continuous population group. And because Iškuza and Scythia both cover immediately preceding/succeeding but also partially overlapping parts of the history of the Scythians, multiple sections and sub-sections of each page covering the culture, population, external relations, etc of these states also had to be copied from the Scythians page (e.g. the "Background" sub-section and "Society" section in Scythia, and the "Origins," "Impact," and "Legacy" sections of Iškuza). Moreover, the Scythia page as it exists now also functions as a WP:Semi-duplicate, given that most of the information relating to this polity also is also the same basic information that is required on the Scythians page.

Given this resulting situation, I have started a merger proposal to resolve this issue, per WP:MERGEREASON: Overlap, Context, not because I support a merger for the sake of merging itself, which I do not favour, but because Iškuza and Scythia require too much context and the information on these pages is too intertwined with each other.

The problem is that, despite months having passed, the discussion for the merger proposal is still at a deadlock, with three users opposed to the merger, and three users (including myself) in favour of it. In this difficult situation, I have been advised to bring this issue to the various WikiProjects which are relevant to Scythians as a way to possibly resolve the deadlock, and all good faith assistance to reach a consensus would be much welcome. Antiquistik (talk) 18:11, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Second Battle of Kharkov
Second Battle of Kharkov has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:25, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Alexei Navalny 2013 mayoral campaign
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Alexei Navalny 2013 mayoral campaign that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 05:29, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Terek Oblast or Terek oblast ?
Talk:Terek Oblast. Disagreement as to the capitalization ant italicizing of the article title. 17:14, 17 February 2023 (UTC)