Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russian federal subjects/Archive 4

Create one single WP:Russia project?
I have been editing Russian aviation articles for a while now, doing bits and pieces before I delve in and do total re-writes in an attempt to bring these articles up to par - Aeroflot will be my first big one shortly. I was having a look at some of the Russian airport articles as part of getting info together for the re-writes, and I noticed that many of these articles are hopelessly out-of-date and are basically based upon information which US/NATO obtained/released when information did not flow freely. The same goes for the Russian aircraft articles, take a look at Tupolev Tu-95 for a perfect example, it is entirely written from a NATO perspective, with no information on where these aircraft are based, what squadrons, etc. Compare to the American equivalent, the B-52. Going thru tonnes of Russian articles, I was actually very surprised to find 3 articles that one would probably expect to be featured articles are not; those being Russia, Moscow and Russian language (yes the language article lost FA status 24 hours ago). I was also surprised to find that many articles I expected to exist do not; prime example being many of the Federal government ministries. Then there are other problems such as:


 * Naming conventions - very little continuity and no real guidelines for Russian names and articles in wikipedia as a whole - an example is here.
 * Categorisation - naming conventions will help somewhat - following other naming conventions will help too - an example of poor categorisation throughout Russian articles - Category:Russian_people
 * Article assessment - there are no guidelines for this, and it has resulted in some unusual results. Guidelines are needed.
 * Article review - there are no guidelines specific to Russian articles and with more than one project, other projects won't necessarily know of review requests. Additionally, because of the number of projects with very little scope in each, wider community views can be missed. For example, Russian language was a featured article until 23 August (yesterday). It's featured article review, unfortunately it went unannounced on all Russian projects, apart from this corner
 * Collaboration - there is none to very little collaboration on Russian content between the various projects and unfortunately article quality, and perhaps stability, will suffer for it.
 * Recruitment/outreach - As we are members of various Russian projects, we took the time to add our name to a list, because we have an interest in a certain (or all) aspect/s of Russia. New members are needed, but how will they find the projects? There needs to be co-ordination to 'recruit' new members.
 * Scope - just what is the scope for the various projects? WikiProject Russian federal subjects has a very very narrow somewhat defined scope; WikiProject Russian history has a hazy 'historical' scope; a question being raised here.

What I would suggest, rather what I am suggesting, is the following projects be merged into WikiProject_Russia and for it to be co-ordinated much like any other all-encompassing project. The projects I am suggest to be merged are:


 * WikiProject_Russia - main project
 * WikiProject Russian federal subjects
 * WikiProject Russian history
 * Portal:Russia

Other projects which can be used as guides on how to structure the project would be:


 * WikiProject Australia
 * Portal:Australia - a featured portal

Of course there needs to be concensus from all projects for a merge and structures be discussed, etc, but firstly, there needs to be discussion on the pros and cons of such an idea. I have posted this on the other project talk pages, and have asked that all discussion take place here so that we all projects can read off the same page. --Russavia 16:09, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I commented on this at Portal talk:Russia.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:41, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

республики и прочее
Привет!!! Выяснилось, что в добавок к общей путанице с АССР и современными республиками добавились ещё некотрые факты: некоторые из этих республик провозгласили себя как ССР на заре девянностых. См Aslan Dzharimov. Подобные факты всё-таки наводят меня на мысль, что про АССР Советского Союза и современные республики странцы надо создать отдельные. Вообще, я всё-таки за то, чтобы любая административная единица, особенно национальная, особенно с признаками госудраственности, имела бы собственную страницу, пусть пустую. Кстати, моджет я и невнимателен, но нету ли проекта типа Subdivisions of the Soviet Union? --Üñţïf̣ļëŗ ( see also: ә? Ә!) 20:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)