Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Serbia/Archive 3

AlogiA (band)
Hi, I was hoping someone who speaks Serbian could help me find some Serbian-language sources for this article. They appear to be quite big in their own country, but I don't speak the language to be able to find sources. Chubbles (talk) 18:42, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Kosovo
The above listed WikiProject is currrently being discussed for deletion. Please feel free to take part in that discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Kosovo. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 15:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Proposed merger with WikiProject Belgrade
WikiProject Belgrade has been tagged as inactive. Potentially, this leaves the project open for deletion. Would the members of this project favor moving the above named project as a work group or task force of this project? If required, I could perform changes to the banner to permit separate assessment. Thank you for your responses. John Carter (talk) 01:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This discussion went for 10 months with no objections so I went ahead and added "Belgrade=yes" to the banner. —Borgardetalk 04:24, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Flag of Serbia
As everyone's noticed theres been a change to the colour or hue of the flag, particularly the blue. I know that the change was based on the National Assembly site but the Government site which has the symbol as well shows the blue as the original darker hue which is consistent with Serbian flags through out history (general present with a darker blue rather than lighter) So we are presented with conflicting sides here. I generally dislike the lighter blue and its quite evident when seeing the Serbian flag in actual photos that it is darker... at least darker than what is presented here. Let me know what you think. Bluewings 12:35, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Kosovo relaunched
Editors may wish to be aware that WikiProject Kosovo has been relaunched to help coordinate editing and facilitate monitoring of Kosovo-related articles. I will be sponsoring the project. If you have any queries about it, please ask me on my talk page or use Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Kosovo.

If you wish to become involved, please feel free to do so - simply leave your username at WikiProject Kosovo. One feature that you may find particularly useful is the public watchlist. If you click here you can see all the recent changes to articles listed on the watchlist.

There is still a lot of work to be done on getting the project off the ground, so your help would be welcomed. In particular:


 * The public watchlist needs to be populated with all Kosovo-related articles (and redirects), categories, images and templates. I've added as many as I've found so far but more need to be added.


 * WikiProject Kosovo and WikiProject Kosovo need to be populated.

-- ChrisO (talk) 22:29, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Signed up, and just to say that I think anyone who worked on Kosovo-related topics should do the same. Nikola (talk) 07:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * What is the point of it, when it is not yet independent? It's still part of Serbia, so until it is officially an independent country there should not be a separate wikiproject for it, should there be? We could have wikiproject Pristina too I suppose, if we can have this one. (LAz17 (talk) 05:10, 16 February 2008 (UTC)).

There is trouble brewing at Talk:University of Priština. A cool head would be very helpful. Nikola (talk) 05:10, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Latin Europe
Hello ! There is a vote going on at Latin Europe that might interest you. Please everyone, do come and give your opinion and votes. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 20:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Gracanica Enclave in Kosovo
I was not sure if I should post this here or on the Kosovo page. Anyways, I made a new page about the enclave in Gracanica - Gračanica (Kosovo Serb Enclave) - if someone can add some good information, please do so. LAz17 (talk) 04:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice article! :) I think you can notify both wikiprojects. Nikola (talk) 18:46, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The article is updated! (LAz17 (talk) 04:10, 20 November 2008 (UTC)).

Draft Guidelines for Lists of companies by country - Feedback Requested
Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 14:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

New stub
Embassy of Serbia in Washington, D.C.. I'll write the ambassador's article sometime tomorrow.  APK  yada yada  05:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi,

Will someone please update the election results of Serbia? The election took place almost a month ago! I would do it myself, but I don't speak Serbian to have access to the official websites or to write an analysis of the results.

Sincerely yours,

George Haralambakis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.198.123 (talk) 14:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Small Cyrillic problem
Kosovan Serb Assembly I know that I have mixed lower case with capitals in the Serbian name. Please assist if you know the Cyrillic alphabet and translate the name literally if you can. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've done a bit of poking around, and I think I fixed it, but I'm going to leave the tag there so some one of you others who actually speaks the language can double check it. -Bbik ★ 00:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Dejan Medaković
Is anyone interested in helping with a biographical article on a Serbian academic? Dejan Medaković, a former president of the Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts (SASA) apparently has just died (1 July 2008 or 2 July 2008 - some confusion about that at the article). I've just had to remove most of the text of the article because it appears to have been copied from the SASA website (and it probably needed some rewrite for WP style, anyway.) I'd think the info from the SASA site would be a good source for the article, we just need to not copy it directly. I don't think I'd have a chance to get to it before this coming weekend at the soonest, and since his death is a "current event" (at least in Serbian academic spheres), I thought someone else might like to work on it before then. I've posted a similar request for assistance at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. Thanks, Lini (talk) 12:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme
As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
 * The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
 * The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
 * A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot  ( Disable )  20:49, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Articles flagged for cleanup
Currently, 1956 articles are assigned to this project, of which 353, or 18.0%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 2008-07-14.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. Subscribing is easy - just add a template to your project page. If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Deletion discussion
Please see Articles for deletion/Afghan British (contains proposal for deletion of the British Serbs article). Badagnani (talk) 04:56, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Serbia
A collection of Wikipedia articles is being collected together as Wikipedia 0.7. This collection will be released on DVD later this year, and will be available for free download. The Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles; a team of copyeditors has agreed to help improve the writing upon request.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 03:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * who selected it how do we know they are accurate

Please see
Here And discuss it there. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:39, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Hemofarm Group
This leading Serbian pharmaceutical company article is up for deletion at Articles for deletion/Hemofarm Group. Other input is welcome. -- Banj e b oi   22:45, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Galenika
This leading Serbian pharmaceutical company article is up for deletion at Articles for deletion/Galenika (company). Other input is welcome. -- Banj e b oi   23:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

mayor
The mayor is Milos Milosevic, but it should not be linking to the wiki page for the croatian swimmer. NOT the same person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.171.104.62 (talk) 16:20, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

FK Lunjevica Gornji Milanovac
Another editor has created FK Lunjevica Gornji Milanovac. If the football club is notable, the article should be expanded. If it is not notable, then the article should be deleted. -- Eastmain (talk) 02:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure if the club is notable enough. Nikola (talk) 21:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Kosovo geographic articles introduction
Recently there has been some drawn out edit warring regarding geography articles where some editors would like to say that something is in Kosovo, without mentioning Serbia at all.

In general, in geography articles, we say that "X is a city in Country" or, if the country has significant subdivisions (which Kosovo certainly is), "X is a city in Subdivision, Country". Prior to Kosovo's UDI we tended to use "X is a city in Kosovo, a province of Serbia under UN administration". However, some editors object to doing this anymore.

So, I am suggesting that we flesh out a proposal on what should be an acceptable description; for example, it may be "X is a city in Kosovo, Serbia ". Then, we can invite editors from Wikiproject Kosovo, and perhaps other interested editors via a RfC to comment and reach a compromise; then, implement the compromise on Kosovo-related geographic articles. Nikola (talk) 21:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Since the note used in the article on the Šar Mountains (after this discussion) is being used in other articles as well, I have created a template for it Kosovo-note, although taking the liberty of making a modification (subject to review by everyone, of course). - Feel free to discuss the issue at the template's talk page. :-) Best regards, Ev (talk) 16:45, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Language template
Please be aware of lang, for marking up non-English words or phrases, thus: српски језик. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 19:08, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Help request: 501 Serbia-related articles needing geographical coordinates
Based on a search of Wikipedia's articles related to Serbia, I've found some articles that I believe are about places in Serbia, and could usefully have geographical coordinates added.

The articles in question are listed in Category:Serbia articles missing geocoordinate data. At the time of writing, some examples included:
 * 1) Countess Ljubica's Residence
 * 2) Despot Stefan Tower
 * 3) Drenovac
 * 4) Gruža (lake)
 * 5) Museum of Contemporary Art (Belgrade)
 * 6) Obrež
 * 7) Rakovički potok

...and there are many more, as well. At the time of posting this notice, there were 501 articles in this category needing geographical coordinates.

Why add coordinates?
By adding coordinates, a Wikipedia reader can easily view the location on a street map, nautical chart, topographic map, by satellite photo, realtime weather map, and in many other ways. Coordinate data makes an article eventually appear in various services such as Google Maps' Wikipedia overlay, Google Earth, and Wikipedia's own internal map service. Coordinate data also helps readers looking for geographically-based data, such as locations near a reference point, or related information.

How can I do it?
The articles are all marked with coord missing tags, which need to be replaced with coord tags that contain the location's latitude/longitude coordinates; or you might be able to add coordinates to an existing infobox. You can find out how to do this at the Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members.

Please let me know if this is useful, or if there is any way I can help! -- The Anome (talk) 11:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Stadion Fk Detelinara
Need a bit of help sorting out the Stadion Fk Detelinara article. The text of this article appears to be about FK Novi Sad, but I can't figure out enough about either one from the text to figure out if one is a stadium and the other a football club, or they are names for the same thing, or what. Any help would be appreciated! -- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  20:47, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Done ;) --Göran S (talk) 00:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Much thanks!-- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  00:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Drawing board article in Serbian
From what I can tell, an editor has left an article in Serbian at Drawing board. Could someone please take a look at that section and respond. Thanks for any help in advance. -Optigan13 (talk) 07:02, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure if this is notable enough to have an article. Nikola (talk) 18:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Belgrade Metro
We need to expand the page of the Belgrade Metro. In fact we need to totally build it from scratch. here is the page on the serbian wikipedia... http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE (LAz17 (talk) 17:44, 18 November 2008 (UTC)).

Major issue, maps
We are dealing with croat POV that is trying to undermine truth, that will paint a distorted reality of what is really going on. Therefore I feel htat it owuld be good if anyone else gave some input as to the hellzone that has been created on this talk page... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:Bih_1991.jpg I have undertaken the long needed cleansing of Ceha's fraud maps that portray wrong data. If anyone has something to add on that talk page there, an agree or disagree, please do so. (LAz17 (talk) 01:30, 22 November 2008 (UTC)).

shield identification
Image:-RepublicSrbska.jpg is somehow related to Serbia, but this is not the national shield. Can anyone identify it? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:26, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's labeled as an alternative variant of the logo of the Scouting Association of the Serbian Republic; see Savjet izviđačkih organizacija u Bosni i Hercegovini. &mdash; Kpalion(talk) 18:01, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, but what is the shield inside from? It doesn't match any Wiki article I can find. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:31, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Cathedral of Saint Sava
Could somebody who knows something about this pleeese go to the page, read my comments on the discussion page annd make the necessary adjustments to the statements which are currently meaningless to the ordinary reader. This is important.

Secondly, someone with a little knowledge of architecture really needs to write about the style of the building. It is drawn directly from Hagia Sophia in Istanbul. This article cannot possibly warrant a B grading if the very obvious nature of the architectural tradition is not included in the article. You cannot base a building directly on one of the most famous buildings in the world, and then not write that this is where the design comes from!

Amandajm (talk) 02:09, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Nobody has responded to this. I'm just letting you know here that I have reduced this article from a B to a C rating because of the problems. Please read the article discussion page and fix it. One problem needs a person with architectural knowledge, but the other problem needs anybody who knows something about the city. Amandajm (talk) 01:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Is Weird Al Serbian?
There is some dispute on the Serbian American article on whether "Weird Al" Yankovic is of Serbian descent and should be included in the article. Some source say he is only Yugoslavian, including his personal website and an interview. Other sources say he is Serbian such as IMBD and another website. Also, though this is a weak argument, Yankovic is a Serbian name and he is listed as Serbian in the Serbs and List of Serbs article. Essentially I'm looking for some assistance to avoid an edit war. Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 01:06, 30 December 2008 (UTC)