Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Singapore/2014 archive

Please comment at Kelvin Tan's ongoing peer review!
Fellow SGpedians, I humbly present my latest contribution to this project, an article about Kelvin Tan, a blind Singaporean Mandopop singer! All members of this WikiProject are invited to support the quest to counter systemic bias on Wikipedia by commenting at this article's ongoing peer review to help it achieve GA status! May you enjoy reviewing this short, but interesting, article, as much as I enjoyed writing it! Thanks! 谢谢！Terima kasih! நன்றி! --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 12:18, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Please help me to correct the information provided about our school in Singapore
Dear SGpedians-Team,

I am working for the German European School Singapore and would like to ask for advice on how to make sure that the information provided about our school om Wikipedia is correct. We know our school and see that important information is missing in the GESS article and some information is not true and I would like to ensure that this is corrected. As you are in charge of Singapore related information, I wanted to raise your attention to the following mistakes in the article:

1.	It states that we offer Portuguese classes. That is not true. We offer French, Spanish, German, English and Mandarin. 2.	It states that the type of our school is International Baccalaureate. However, our school is also offering the German National Curriculum (more than half of our students are German), and even though we are an IB World school, our true category is International School (as this takes into consideration the IB and the German Section). 3.	The article mentions the Dutch Mother Tongue Programme. We also offer a Danish Mother Tongue Programme and got complaints from parents about this not being explained on Wikipedia (as only partial information is shown there). 4.	Andre Beinert is listed as the Vice Principal, however, this is not true. We have two Vice Principals, Andre Beinert and Iain Fish.

Thank you very much for letting me know how to proceed or assisting me with the corrections.

Best regards,

Johanna ( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johannakb (talk • contribs) 16:21, 13 December 2013‎ )


 * Thanks for your message. Right now the article has almost no reliable third-party references. Can you provide some references that support the information you mention above, and other information in the article? — Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 16:20, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello Jack Lee ,

Thanks for your reply.

Here is a link to an article of the Scandasia Singapore magazine mentioning our Danish mother tongue programme http://issuu.com/scandasia/docs/scandasia_singapore_april_2013. As our website is our main communication tool all the information about programmes and languages offered as well as who the vice principals are is displayed there. I don't have other third party sources. Would you require an offcial statement from the school certifying that these facts are true? Please let me know.

Thank you, User:Johannakb —Preceding undated comment added 02:12, 6 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi, Johanna. Thanks, that reference to Scandasia is useful. If the rest of the information isn't mentioned elsewhere, then links to web pages of the school's website are better than nothing. I suggest that you start adding those to the article, and if you need help with formatting let me know. I'm afraid an official statement from the school isn't very helpful, because Wikipedia policy requires information to be sourced to published third-party sources. — Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 09:44, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Where are our Indians (and Malays)?
Based on their usernames, Jacklee and Aldwinteo are Chinese. Hildanknight says he is Chinese on his userpage. Did some checks on our other article writers, like Bonkers, Mailer, Sengkang and AngChenrui, they are all Chinese. Where are the Indian (and Malay) article writers? Not accusing anyone of racism here, but this could affect Wikipedia coverage of certain Singapore topics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.15.221.147 (talk) 08:19, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Good question. I have no idea. — Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 11:23, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Although Chinese, Jack has written about Indian politicians (Balaji Sadasivan), lawyers (Choor Singh) and entertainers (Neila Sathyalingam). My contributions are more Chinese-centric (notably Jack Neo movies, Kelvin Tan and Ya Kun), so I should learn from him! I acknowledge that we may have insufficient awareness or interest in local minority cultures or have difficulty writing about them (as many sources would be in Malay or Tamil). I have been trying to encourage a close friend (who is Indian) to start writing for Wikipedia. Since Indians are well represented in law, perhaps some from the SMU Administrative/Constitutional Law project could be encouraged to write on other local topics? --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 12:12, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

What neighborhood is Waseda Shibuya Senior High School in Singapore located in?
What neighborhood is Waseda Shibuya Senior High School in Singapore located in? What reliable source states what neighborhood it is? Is it Clementi or West Coast? I want to know so I can list the school at the appropriate neighborhood article.

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 22:59, 8 January 2014 (UTC)


 * It's located on West Coast Road, so I'd say "West Coast" is probably correct. — SMUconlaw (talk) 12:48, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Adhoc meetup tonight or tomorrow
I'm unexpectedly staying in Singapore in the Bedok area until tomorrow afternoon, but happy to travel anywhere, if anyone is interested in catching up for dinner/lunch/coffee/etc and knows where to find good food/coffee/etc. ;-) John Vandenberg (chat) 04:23, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, John. Sorry, I only saw your post a while ago, and since you are leaving tomorrow afternoon I don't think there will be time to catch up. Some other time! — Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 13:26, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Merge WikiProject Chinese-language entertainment into WikiProject China
I suggest that the inactive WP:WikiProject Chinese-language entertainment be merged as a taskforce into WP:WikiProject China. -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 17:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Meet up
Is here any meet up for Singapore wikipedians. Would like to meet you all guys. BALA.R (talk) 14:37, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Lat Pau
The article on Lat Pau, one of Singapore's earliest Chinese-language newspapers, is currently a stub. Does anyone know where more information on early Singaporean newspapers can be obtained? I'm hoping that this stub can be expanded a bit. -- benlisquare T•C•E 00:54, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You might check the following sources. Unfortunately, I don't think they are available online, so you might have to visit a library.
 * — SMUconlaw (talk) 17:33, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * — SMUconlaw (talk) 17:33, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * — SMUconlaw (talk) 17:33, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Chinese New Year in Singapore
I have added some information of events and activities that Chinese in Singapore do during Chinese New Year. Chinese New Year in Singapore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joycci (talk • contribs) 17:36, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Lee Hsien Loong
Started a discussion regarding his first National Day Rally on the abovementioned talk page. Please answer to my queries. HYH.124 (talk) 11:33, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Regarding National monuments of Singapore
Preservation of Monuments Board merged with the National Heritage Board (Singapore) since 2009. (See ) The information stated in the section "Preservation of Monuments Act" is also outdated. Please update it according to current Act.

Please help to update the article. I am too lazy to do so. Thanks, Huang (talk in public in private &#124; contribs) 15:03, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I updated but still need help with the article. HYH.124 (talk) 11:37, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Recognize these dishes?
Anyone recognize these dishes which were photographed in Singapore? I'm trying to rename and categorize them. — Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 16:16, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014
You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles within Category:LGBT in Asia may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:15, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Singaporean electoral divisions
Lots of articles were created today in Category:Singaporean electoral divisions. I've added a to as many of them as I could find. They're all small and could benefit from extra attention. PaintedCarpet (talk) 23:33, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Help needed from Singaporeans
Hello! I'd like to request the assistance of Singaporean editors whose experience might help with a deletion discussion. Makam Habib Noh is a cemetary supposedly between Palmer Road and East Coast Parkway. If possible, could some editors willing to help take a look at the article and at Articles for deletion/Makam Habib Noh? I think the question is of the location's notability more than its existence. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:18, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 09/06
Draft:Singapore Changi Airport Terminal 4. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 15:30, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

New milestone: 100 Singapore-related articles with quality statuses!
According to my records, when Sri Temasek attained GA status yesterday, our project hit a new milestone of 100 Singapore-related articles with quality statuses (91 GAs, 7 FAs and 2 FLs). Some interesting statistics: The next milestone is 100 GAs and my 2014 GA drive is in progress. Please support my efforts to polish Sengkang's architecture DYKs and the five articles by the NTU Language programme! --Hildanknight (talk) 15:32, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * 75% of our quality articles were written by Jacklee, Aldwinteo, Hildanknight or the SMU Law programme.
 * 88% of our quality articles were written by Singaporean editors, but of the 7 FAs, only 3 were written by Singaporean editors.
 * 29% of our quality articles are about law. 18% are about history (including military history).
 * Despite our reputation for quality architecture articles (thanks to Sengkang and AngChenrui), only 5% of our quality articles are about architecture (less than 10% if one argues that articles like Fort Tanjong Katong are about architecture).
 * Sports, music and film articles may dominate Wikipedia, but account for only 18% of our quality articles.
 * 16 quality articles (all GAs) earned their statuses this year, 24 (23 GAs and 1 FL) earned their statuses in 2012 and 22 (all GAs) earned their statuses in 2008. 2009 saw the promotion of 2 FAs and 13 GAs.

Collaboration
Hello, I am Exec8, an active wikipedian/ wikimedia chapter founder who came from a neighboring country and will stay for a while here and see the activities of local wikipedians. If you are interested to do meetup, just let me know. --Exec8 (talk) 05:47, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

New guidelines?
Where did the discussion for the "new set of guidelines for English Wikipedia in Singapore" come from? Any guidelines, if implemented, should come from consensus and not from an individual editor as it seems to be. LRD NO (talk) 07:13, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree this requires discussion and consensus for adoption. I had a quick look at the proposed guidelines and don't have any serious objections to them think some of them need further thought (see my comments below) . Does anyone else have views on the guidelines? — Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 07:20, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I can see Timothyhouse1 has put in significant effort on them. For something major like project page guidelines though, they should be proposed and discussed by the community for amendments and consensus. Perhaps Timothy could list any proposed guidelines under say, User:Timothyhouse1/Proposed guidelines for SGpedians' notice board and we could take the discussion there. Cheers. LRD NO (talk) 07:39, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * While that course of action would have been ideal, the fact is that Timothyhouse1 has already created the guidelines subpage. Rather than arguing about where the page should be located, maybe it is better to just focus on whether any changes are required to the page. I have tagged the page with under discussion and notified Timothyhouse1 of the discussion that is taking place here. — Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 09:15, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

I had a closer look at the proposed guideline and have the following comments: — Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 09:28, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * "When adding pages, full naming must be identified before posting up. Do note that every first letter of the word is always captialised" is not clear. If it is supposed to advise editors that Article Titles Must be Always be Capitalized Like This, that is not correct.
 * Statements like "It will be placed in proposed deletion or articles for deletion list immediately", "Bus route pages that are created will be deleted without further notice", and "Failure to do so will result in reversion of article to the original state" need to be toned down. Wikipedia works on consensus and does not have a discipline master ready to "punish" editors for acting inconsistently with guidelines and policies.
 * "Do not add advanced information into the school pages" is not clear. What is "advanced information"?


 * It escaped my attention that the guidelines were included as a link in mainspace prior to any discussion since the edits were removed. I have removed the link in the project page as it is still under discussion. The link to the proposed guidelines is located here. LRD NO (talk) 09:35, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Languages in censuses and Race and ethnicity in censuses
Pleas add information about this country to this articles--Kaiyr (talk) 13:18, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Request: Make Commons page "Mass Rapid Transit (Singapore)" multilingual
Is anybody interested in making Commons:Mass Rapid Transit (Singapore) fully multilingual? Please add Mandarin Chinese, Tamil, and/or Malay where needed. I made a small start, but if you are interested in helping out I would very much appreciate it! WhisperToMe (talk) 07:44, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Requested move
It has been proposed that Singapore Lions be renamed and moved to Singapore FA. Please follow the discussion here. Thank you. LRD 08:20, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

new articles
no new articles from july 2014 to now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.61.51.210 (talk) 07:07, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Survey on an Asian communities meeting next year
Hi everybody. There is talk of a potential meeting of Wikimedia communities in east and southeast Asia next year, and the organizers want to get input from as many countries in the region as possible. It would be wonder if some of you will answer this short survey so we can better plan the meeting, and hopefully also get your input as to what should be discussed.

In addition, should the meeting push forward, the organizers will be requesting for a grant from the Wikimedia Foundation, and they may be able to fund a couple of Wikipedians from Singapore to attend the meeting/workshop. Hope to get some responses from Singapore! :) --Sky Harbor (talk) 13:12, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Chinese names of Singapore Airlines Flight 006 crew members and passengers?
Does anyone know the Chinese names (hanzi) of the following Singapore Airlines Flight 006 passengers:
 * Elma Thwaites
 * Dr. Sung Kah Kay
 * Jennifer Loo Tak Wing (Sung's wife)
 * Lim Kim Hock
 * Tina Eugenia Yeh

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 04:08, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Expert attention
This is a notice about Category:Singapore articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 18:40, 11 December 2014 (UTC)