Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Skyscrapers/Archive 1

New Image?
I think we should pick a new, central image to use for this project, for use on the main project page, the project banner, and a userbox. Of course, we could also use separate images for each. We should probably use an image of a famous skyscraper, at least IMO. Simply add new images to the gallery below if you think they should be considered.

Some ideas:

Vote
I'd like Image:Empire State Building3 Dec.2005.jpg, but cropped, so the image focuses in on the ESB. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 02:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I'd say we go with the Taipei 101 picture until the Burj Dubai is complete for the central image. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 16:49, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I am not sure if we should use an image of a building simply because that building is the official tallest. Yes, Taipei 101 is tallest, but the image is not great. For best images, I would say that honor goes to either the Petronas Towers, the Sears Tower, or the Four Seasons Miami. Perhaps we should use criteria besides height to determine which buildings to include? But that is just my opinion. If we were to go with the most famous building, I would probably say the Empire State Building. Rai - me  22:56, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * If we go with the ESB, I think there is a better image than the one depicted up in the gallery above. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 03:45, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You can look at the Commons Category for more ideas. Perhaps Image:Empire State Building3 Dec.2005.jpg or Image:Empire State Building Dec.2005.jpg would be better? Rai - me  19:24, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: Image 6, Four Seasons Miami, has been removed from the list, as it is apparently a copyrighted image being claimed under free use, and will likely be deleted. Rai - me  19:24, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * How is this? I would be happy to make any adjustments to the image, but I am still not convinced that it is better to use than the current ESB/Chrysler image. Rai - me  03:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I like the cropped image. But, I think we should go with a picture of teh CN Tower unless that's not in our scope. Æe  tlr   Cre  ejl  02:01, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It is in our scope, but I don't think it is the image most closely associated with "skyscrapers", which more or less implies buildings. Perhaps we could use both on the main page? I have used the Petronas Towers image on the project banner, as the cropped ESB one was too narrow and the Petronas are already used on the userbox. Anyone disagree? Cheers, Rai - me  12:20, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Greetings!
I decided I would join your project after seeing it posted on the proposals list. I look the liberty of creating a userbox, if you don't like the image I chose it is very easy to change it to a preferred one. All members can now use to generate the userbox and hopefully this project can really get going as it has a huge yet very central scope.

└and-rew ┘┌talk ┐ 06:29, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I think that is a great userbox. I will create a project banner soon, I just don't have enough time at the moment. Does anyone think this project is almost ready/already to move to the Wikipedia space? Rai - me  02:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Let's go, although I am bogged down with 'midterm madness'. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 05:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


 * As my first contribution to the project, I have updated the link on the userbox to point to the project page in the main Wikipedia space. Astronaut 13:41, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Featured topic drive
For any interested users, Hydrogen Iodide and I have organized a Featured topic drive related to United States tallest building lists. All information can be found here, in my sandbox. When this project moves to the Wikipedia space, then we can create a separate page. Any more participation would be greatly appreciated, and hopefully we can organize more FTDs (i.e. with Canadian, European, Chinese building lists) in the future. Thanks! Rai - me 02:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Template time
Since this project has been moved to the wiki space, I think it's about time to create all of the necessary template. I think there needs to be an invitation template, a project banner (for lists, images, categories, project pages, and templates, in addition to the article template). Any comments? Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 06:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree with everything except the creation of a list template. It is very common for lists to be assessed as "list-class" articles, and for FLs to be assessed as FAs. I see no reason why we need a separate list tempate. But I agree on all other accounts. We also could use a welcome banner and stub templates. I will get working on them soon. Cheers, Rai - me  12:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment, the project banner, for articles and list, could use unref=yes to mark articles that lack references. I think that is better than unreferenced tag on the main article page. Comments? Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 05:35, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

✅, added the code for unref=yes. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 06:56, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Ratings and importance
There is presently no ratings scale or importance scale for these articles. I assume we'll be using the same quality scheme:

but we need a way to prioritize the Burj Dubai over the Wells Fargo Center.--Loodog 14:53, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree. I've been trying to keep Burj Dubai up to date and free of vandalism.  I would like to see it achieve Featured Article status soon after the buiding's completion and/or opening, but I'm unsure how to improve it whilst the building is still under construction.  Astronaut 15:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I also agree that cetrain articles such as Burj Dubai, Taipei 101, and the CN Tower need to be prioritized over other, much less notable buildings. There will soon be an assessment page (the project banner already has redlinks to the pages), but no one has had the time to create it yet. But until then, we can still assess the Burj Dubai as "Top" and the Wells Fargo Center as "Low" for importance. Cheers, Rai - me  22:35, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

CBD/Downtown
Are central business districts/downtown areas part of the scope of this project? Æe tlr   Cre  ejl  07:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I would say so, as most CDBs have plenty of skyscrapers and high-rises. Rai - me  14:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Anyone in?
Hello! I'm Simalto, Sim B on the French wikipedia. I'm mainly a French contributor, still in the skyscrapers category, but as I'm hanging around on this wikipedia too I wondered if I could join the project. I've already created a couple articles on the subject, and I can translate skyscrapers articles from French to English (yes, there are articles that exist on the FR wikipedia that don't here! The ones I created some days ago did.) I will spot those articles in need of a tag, and help contribute!

So, I wondered if I could just enter my name and start participating. Yours, Simalto (talk) 03:25, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Anyone can join; it is not required to request membership. Also, you can contribute while not having your name listed under participants.  Third, I am sure all WikiProject Skyscraper members welcome editors that can translate articles.  --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 07:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Deletion review and Afd debate
Four Points by Sheraton (Dubai) is up for deletion review. Cheers. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 07:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * There are three opposes and three endorses. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 09:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Article is up for Afd discussion, which can be found here. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 08:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Result was no consensus, default to keep. Cheers. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 22:34, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

More stuff up for Afd

 * Executive Towers and all articles about the buildings of this complex. Cheers. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 22:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Executive Towers article deleted already. Cheers. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 02:04, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


 * And World Trade Centre Residence and Tamwell Tower for a second time (speedy deleted articles were recreated and put on Afd again. Cheers. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!)


 * Result was no consensus. --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 07:16, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Several more buildings in Dubai for deletion

 * Damas Tower 2 is up for deletion review. --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Result was keep. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Al Tayer Tower is up for deltion review. --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Result was keep. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Churchill Residency is up for deltion review. --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Result was keep. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Sama Tower is up for deletion review. --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Result was keep. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Sky Gardens is up for deltion review. --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Da Vinci Tower is up for deltion review. --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:02, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Result was keep. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 02:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

List for deletion
*The Fort Collins list is up for deletion. Cheers. <font color="indigo" face="Arial">Trance addict 03:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC) List deleted. Cheers. <font color="indigo" face="Arial">Trance addict 04:15, 31 December 2007 (UTC)