Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Slovenia/Archive 4

Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons
The WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons (UBLPs) aims to reduce the number of unreferenced biographical articles to under 30,000 by June 1, primarily by enabling WikiProjects to easily identify UBLP articles in their project's scope. There were over 52,000 unreferenced BLPs in January 2010 and this has been reduced to 32,665 as of May 16. A bot is now running daily to compile a list of all articles that are in both Category:All unreferenced BLPs and have been tagged by a WikiProject. Note that the bot does NOT place unreferenced tags or assign articles to projects - this has been done by others previously - it just compiles a list.

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Mariborska Hokejska Liga
I made a new page, Mariborska Hokejska Liga. It would be nice if someone could perhaps help make it better. (LAz17 (talk) 17:25, 18 August 2010 (UTC)).


 * You do know that players here are mostly retired profesionals or total amateurs, something like NHL (Nočna hokejska liga), but smaller? And for example that KMŠ = Club of Maribor students? So thats why it isn't covered in major slovenian media, except for 3 matches in 2006 at 24ur.com, so not much info to improve the article. --Sporti (talk) 07:02, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Per a discussion at User talk:Kaktus999: the above category is getting to be too large to navigate easily, and I think it's coming due for a splitting. I'm not sure what the best course of action would be, and he recommended bringing it here for suggestions, so that's what I'm doing. As we say in Virginny, what do y'all think? What would be the best way to do this? I have AWB, so I'd be happy to help out when the time comes. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:30, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * To begin with, the 74 places with formal city status could be put in a sub-category Cities in Slovenia. Apart from that, one of the options would be introducing categories by municipalities like we have at :sl - see sl:Kategorija:Naselja v Sloveniji po občinah. — Yerpo Eh? 13:35, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Towns not cities, I would say. Otherwise waiting for any other suggestions. Splitting by municipality would be an option, though I still think that by creating 210 categories out of a single one does not really help, 'cos on their own the names of the municipalities are pretty meaningless, unless you are relatively local and know where some of these relatively small and unknown places are. In any case the already exist with all the settlements divided accordingly. I think a more regional division is needed. Kaktus999 (talk) 14:26, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

No I'd oppose the seperate of towns from villages etc. I'd support a Category:Cities and towns in Slovenia only for the 74 official cities but also a Populated places by municpality for each of them. I really think the best thing here is by municipality. Some of the municipalities have over 50 settlements to its not as if they all only have one or two. I support by municipality. I don't think Ser Amantio will mind too much about recatting them by municipality. Other than that there is the by historical region option but there would still be 800 odd in each category on average. Dr.  Blofeld  14:42, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Another option - which I've seen already in play on some of 'em - is to do like with the US counties. Look at Cumberland, Virginia, for instance: it's catted to  and to .  That has the advantage of categorizing it on the one hand with its county, and on the other hand with other communities of its nature.  Cumberland's not that well-developed: but take a look at  - that has all populated places, plus state roads, historic houses, museums, anything that fits.  So: perhaps doubly-categorize, by municipality and by historic region? -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:54, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * There are two problems here: "town" or any other term apart from "city" is an arbitrary distinction in Slovenia, and regions aren't well defined. If we want to be precise, the only option would be categorizing by municipalities for now. It's not likely that anyone would search for particular settlements through the category tree in either case. Cities could of course be additionally categorized as such. — Yerpo Eh? 15:09, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I agree. I'd rather scrap thecity idea and just plainly recategorize by municipality. Dr.  Blofeld  15:32, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I've moved some towns to the Category:Populated coastal places in Slovenia. I'm not sure whether they should be only there or also elsewhere. There is also a discussion about renaming the category Mediterranean port cities and towns in Slovenia. --Eleassar my talk 19:14, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Assistance needed with Eastern Europe
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Slovenia articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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WikiProject cleanup listing
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Working List for Museums in Slovenia
I plan to make a list of all museums in Slovenia according to a booklet I took along from there: "Guide to Slovenian Museums and Galleries", Ljubljana 2008 (Preface by Metka Fujs, as far as I understand all museum listed are members of the Slovenian Museums Association (SMA)), ISBN 978-961-91125-3-3 (?). This should be a working list in my namespace to show what museums are still missing. There are Slovenian and English names in this book. If there is interest in it from this project I will start it. Best wishes Plehn (talk) 12:11, 14 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Please, Be Bold and go ahead. I'm sure somebody will find it useful. — Yerpo Eh? 07:25, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I support the move. This is a great idea. It would be really useful to have the list and at least a stub for the main Slovenian museums and galleries, as many articles contain references and mentions of them. --Eleassar my talk 09:27, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the positive response - it will take 5 to 10 days before the list will be finished. I will give a hint to it. Plehn (talk) 11:39, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


 * In Slovenia Cultural Profiles Project is a list of museums sorted by region (in english language). The Slovenia Cultural Profile was created in partnership with the Ministry of Culture of Slovenia and the British Council Slovenia. Maybe it will help you. --Pinky sl (talk) 14:55, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for this hint - for sure, there will be more museums in Slovenia than this guide lists - a first, incomplete version of the list is here User:Plehn/List of Museums in Slovenija (hm, there is a misspelling in the title...) The cities and the websites can be added, some of the blue links are nonsense, for sure, I will add a hint to the existing category "Museums in Slovenia". Feel free to correct mistakes. Plehn (talk) 07:28, 21 November 2010 (UTC)


 * PS: I looked at this list in "Culturalprofiles" - there are about 250 Museums listed, the "Guide" has less than 70 museums. The profiles give only the english names. Both should be merged in the long run. Plehn (talk) 11:51, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * If you click on link for museum, there is also slovenian name (in italic, under english name). In your list there are only memebers of Slovenian Museums Association. Membership in this Association is informal, so thats the difference, you must pay membership. --Pinky sl (talk) 12:16, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, sure, there are slovenian names too now I can see them. In the long run I will integrate theses museums. But these will be the smaller ones - so it may be better to look at the bigger ones at first. Here is the first version of the list:


 * User:Plehn/List of Museums in Slovenija


 * Some blue links are nonsense (to other museums), I will add the websites of the objects. The first description in the brochure are the different collections - I will add these too. (some characters are still wrong.) Best wishes Plehn (talk) 21:21, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I added missing čžš and put list into wikitable for easier viewing. --Pinky sl (talk) 09:06, 25 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Kozjansko park is not a museum, it is the largest regional park in Slovenia (200 square kilometres). It is a member of Slovenian Museums Association because there is a lot of art, ethnological, archeological heritage ... with regularly open castle Podsreda. --Pinky sl (talk) 11:43, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!, a major improvement. - I did not read all texts - for the Kozjanski park the booklet says: "The (Podsreda) Castle houses permanent and temporary exhibitions". For many Museums in the guide there are several collections, for the park there are five collections. Plehn (talk) 18:47, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

more discussions, if necessary: I suggest we should discuss it on the talk page of the list, Plehn (talk) 14:55, 27 November 2010 (UTC)


 * The list is finished and will be copied by user Plehn into en. WP in a few days (User:Plehn/List of Museums in Slovenija). It is a product of sl.user an de.user. So, any comment, would be welcomed. --Pinky sl (talk) 11:24, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

'''done, see List of Museums in Slovenia - please feel free to copy it to the slovenian wikipedia! Thanks to Pinkysl! (especially) Plehn (talk) 17:16, 18 January 2011 (UTC)'''

New wave groups
Hello, i see that you created Category:Slovenian New Wave musical groups.

Well, i have created a page about Via Ofenziva last year and also wanted to continue with Kuzle, Lublanski psi etc., but the Via Afenziva article was deleted. So i would like to contribute some articles about other new wave/punk bands, if there is any interest in widing the group? I need to know how known the band must be, what is the criteria to let it pass, or if someone colud simply post a list of requested acceptable groups.Linhart (talk) 19:51, 28 November 2010 (UTC)


 * You are certainly welcome to create new content. As for criteria, the main one is that you have to establish enough context to indicate the band's notability and provide reliable sources (=not fanpages but mainstream media) for those that aren't familiar with the scene. People here prefer on-line English sources which they can see and understand, but if you provide at least something, it should be enough to defend the article if someone nominates it for deletion. It can be a web-page in Slovenian (this and this, for example) or a book, the more the better. Writing just a short sentence about the band without sources is a sure way to get your contribution speedily deleted. — Yerpo Eh? 07:32, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Project scope: Hallstatt culture
Hi, is the article Hallstatt culture in the scope of the WikiProject Slovenia? There has recently been a dispute about this. --Eleassar my talk 10:56, 19 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Why and where? A lot of Hallstatt-era artefacts were found in Slovenia, so it is naturally a part of this area's history. — Yerpo Eh? 12:49, 19 December 2010 (UTC)


 * It's about whether the article Hallstatt culture should be tagged with WikiProject Slovenia - see the history of its talk page (and the talk page of User:Dbachmann). --Eleassar my talk 22:03, 19 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Ugh, the "debate" at Dbachmann's talk page got really ugly really quickly, and not because of you. Ignoring that, I can see what he meant - other articles about prehistoric cultures are only tagged under a national WikiProject of the country the type site of this culture is in. In the opposite case, talk pages might start resembling christmas trees if you tagged them with every country involved. Regardless of this, Dbachmann's conduct in this case exemplified pretty much everything an administrator should not be and I encourage you to report him to the community at a relevant talk page. — Yerpo Eh? 08:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think the talkpage would really start resembling Christmas tree as there is the WikiProjectBanners template (see WikiProject Council/Guide). What do you think? --Eleassar my talk 09:57, 20 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, regarding the discussion here and I suggest someone re-adds the WikiProject Slovenia template to the talk of page of the Hallstatt culture. (I'll keep away from doing so as I don't want to edit war.) I believe we want to be notified about the articles regarding Slovenia. Especially as the Article Alert bot has been restarted. Read the story! --Eleassar my talk 11:02, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm still not 100 % certain it belongs there (just 90 %), because of how other articles about ancient cultures are tagged. Another opinion would be nice... — Yerpo Eh? 19:33, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Languages of Slovenia
Please, see Talk:Languages of Slovenia and provide your comments. The issue is whether to include Prekmurian dialect in the article Languages of Slovenia. --Eleassar my talk 15:51, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Veliko težav je okoli prekmurščine, ampak iz interneta lahko vidite, da ni vsakdanašnjo "krčmarsko" narečje. Tukaj veliko stvari ne poznajo ljudje, da so hoteli avtonomijo Prekmurju in prekmurščini. Doncsecztalk 16:40, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I favor the Prekmurje dialect (not "Prekmurian") being covered at Slovene dialects, not Languages of Slovenia. Doremo (talk) 11:39, 28 December 2010 (UTC)