Wikipedia talk:WikiProject St. Louis

Welcome
WikiProject St. Louis is underway as of December 31, 2007.Grey Wanderer | Talk 20:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Requested move discussion at Talk:Gateway Geyser
Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Gateway Geyser, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, Yashovardhan (talk) 13:45, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Edit request for The Doe Run Company
Hello! I'm an employee of The Doe Run Company and I'm here on behalf of the company. Continuing my work to update the Wikipedia article, I have saved an expanded and updated draft here, and posted an edit request on the article's talk page. My goals are to correct inaccuracies, source all content, and provide a more thorough overview of the company's operations, among others outlined in more detail in the edit request. I have posted similar requests for help at WikiProjects Mining and Missouri (since the company is based in St. Louis), but so far I've seen no replies to the proposed changes. Would someone from WikiProject St. Louis be able to help with this request? TS at Doe Run (talk) 12:22, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello! I'm sorry to hear you've had trouble getting a response. I can look over your draft some time in the next few days and we can move this forward (if anyone else has time earlier, feel free to beat me to the punch!). Thanks for reaching out here! Ajpolino (talk) 14:00, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template Transclude lead excerpt.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background
On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you. &mdash; The Transhumanist  11:01, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Meetup/St. Louis 2018-08-16 Thursday at VentureCafe
Hi, moved this conversation to:


 * The Wikipedia Meetup St. Louis 15
 * Discussion about the event

Wikipedia Meetup St. Louis 16
Hi, this is coming up THURS Sept 13 at Venture Cafe. I made a page and need some feedback on times, let's do on the discussion page for the event. Thanks!


 * The Wikipedia Meetup St. Louis 16
 * Discussion about the event

Articles tagged with maintenance issues
Hello all! Just wanted to note that for anyone looking for a St. Louis-related task to help with, here is a list of all WikiProject St. Louis articles tagged as having some issue. A bot updates the list every Tuesday (and tracks our progress as well!). A whopping 35% of St Louis aritcles have some kind of maintenance tag, so lots to be done! If you have questions about how to fix a certain issue, feel free to ask here. Happy editing! Ajpolino (talk) 03:39, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Forest Park Parkway importance rating
Hey folks, I saw that Forest Park Parkway (St. Louis) got rated as Low-importance for WP:STL, but it seems to me that maybe it is more important? I looked at WikiProject St. Louis/articles for other major roads, and saw that Grand Boulevard is rated as High-importance. I don't know much about rating, so I was hoping to get some second opinions - maybe Forest Park Parkway is at least Mid-importance? -Furicorn (talk) 03:12, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Chat and Realtime Discussion

 * We are experimenting with a telegram group, join here: https://t.me/MissouriWikipedians
 * The Talk pages for this and our meetups is still important and main form of communication for our group. Jon Phillips (talk) 01:09, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!
A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.
 * – Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

New page
Hey guys I started Chouteau Avenue (St. Louis). Clarinetguy097 (talk) 03:54, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Nice job! Grey Wanderer (talk) 04:06, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Unreferenced St Louis Articles
Hi all! For anyone who has a spare moment or is looking for something to do around here, there are a bunch of St. Louis-related articles that have no references at all. If you can find a reference for information in the article, please add it (and feel free to expand the article!) and remove the unreferenced tag at the top. If you have questions as you go through them, feel free to ask here! A non-complete list below: • Sports:

• Basketball at the 1904 Summer Olympics

• Water polo at the 1904 Summer Olympics

• 1926–27 St. Louis Soccer League season

• St. Louis Terriers

• St. Louis Ambush (1992–2000)

• St. Louis Busch Seniors

• St. Louis Knights

• St. Louis Mules

• FC St. Louis

• J.B. Marine S.C.

• Saint Louis Billikens Men's Soccer Half-Century Team

• Braggin' Rights

• 1889 St. Louis Browns season

• Harry Sullivan (baseball)

• Fredbird (or does this belong in "institutions"?)

• St. Louis Cardinals Radio Network

• St. Louis Golf Classic

• J. Roy Stockton

• Joe Childress

• John Whitehead (baseball)

• Dale Meinert

• Bill Bailey (pitcher)

• Gene Green (baseball)

• Wally Judnich

• Harry Arndt

• Josef Spudich

• Earl Caldwell

• Herman Bronkie

• Dave Stief

• Carl Smith (ice hockey)

• Vernon Ayres

• Walter Moser

• Hersh Lyons

• Bud Tinning

• Ike Danning

• Harry Little (baseball)

• Carl Druhot

• Joe Schepner

• Glens Falls Redbirds

• Wytheville Statesmen

• Logos and uniforms of the St. Louis Cardinals

• Missouri Fall Face-Off

• Institutions/Places/Other:

• Saint Louis Chamber Chorus

• Puppet Guild of Greater Saint Louis

• Saint Louis Crisis Nursery

• St. Louis, El Reno and Western Railway

• Cincinnati, Indianapolis, St. Louis and Chicago Railway

• The Jeffersonian

• East St. Louis and Suburban Railway

• St. Louis and Hannibal Railroad

• Central West End station

• Union Station (MetroLink)

• Red Line (St. Louis MetroLink)

• Blue Line (St. Louis MetroLink)

• Aquinas Institute of Theology

• Immacolata School

• Sherman, Missouri

• Powellville, Missouri

• St. Mary's Parish (Bridgeton, Missouri)

• St. Louis Gateway Film Critics Association Award for Best Supporting Actor

• St. Louis Gateway Film Critics Association Award for Best Documentary Film

• St. Louis Gateway Film Critics Association Awards 2008

• St. Louis Gateway Film Critics Association Awards 2018

• St. Louis Country Club

• River City Broadcasting

• Price–Harney Truce

• Lewis Bridge (Missouri River)

• KWUL

• Aloe Plaza

• Meramec (series)

• Four Seasons Hotel St. Louis

• Thomas Jefferson Library

• Missouri Legislative Black Caucus

• Barnes–Jewish West County Hospital

• Synthesis/Regeneration

• Missouri Crematory

• Missouri Route 25

• Maryville Treatment Center

• Chain of Rocks Amusement Park

• Fleur de Lis Ball

• Metro Catholic Conference

• New City School

• Webster Graduate School

• Laclede Car Company

• National Shrine of Our Lady of the Snows

• Arcadia Valley

• Junket (company)

• People:

• George Maguire (politician)

• Raymond J. Bishop

• Howard S. Levie

• Ernő Koch

• Edward O'Meara

• George Joseph Donnelly

• John Nicholas Wurm

• Ricky Owens

• Rand Brooks

• List of Washington University faculty and staff

• Silas C. Swallow

• Ludwig Jacoby

• Stanner E.V. Taylor

• Thomas N. Scortia

• Carl Fenton

• Building Rome

• Larry Griffin

• Judy Baldwin

• Steve Shaw (actor) Any help is much appreciated! Thanks all and happy editing! Ajpolino (talk) 05:14, 17 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I did research on some of these. I fully referenced the Rand Brooks article, but in the process learned that he was born not in St. Louis but in Wright City, so I removed WikiProject St. Louis from his page. The Judy Baldwin article was not only unreferenced but... unreferenceable? It had serious issues in notability, verifiability, etc., so I nominated it for deletion and it was deleted. --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 23:48, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Max C. Starkloff article about the Health Commissiner who implemented social distancing in St. Louis during the 1918 flu pandemic
Hi, I recently wrote the Max C. Starkloff article. He was St. Louis Health Commissioner who implemented social distancing by closing all public venues and prohibiting public gatherings of more than 20 people in October 1918 during the 1918 influenza pandemic. His actions are credited with flattening the curve of new cases & hospitalizations, & halving the death rate compared to places like Philadelphia & Boston.

My concern is that I have never spent much time in St. Louis or the Midwest, & there are things that a local may know that I may have not gotten right. Would some of you have a look at the article to see if there is any way to improve it?

Peaceray (talk) 01:49, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Great! I'll take a look sometime this week. Also if there's anything you'd like a picture of, or a source you couldn't track down that might be held locally let us know (though our library system is currently closed as a coronavirus measure; so you may have to be patient). Thanks for posting here! Glad to see another article on a St. Louisian Ajpolino (talk) 18:47, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, here are some things that come to mind.
 * Any improvements at Template:Did you know nominations/Max C. Starkloff or Max C. Starkloff, or WikiProject St. Louis assessment at Talk:Max C. Starkloff would be wonderful.
 * I think that there is plenty of material to write an article about Starkloff's & Irma S. Rombauer's father, Hugo Maximilian von Starkloff. Since he died in 1914, any photo of him should be in the public domain. I will note that I always start with the Wikidata record as Infobox person/wikidata can generate an infobox as long as the items have references. (See Max C. Starkloff at Wikidata). Unfortunately Infobox officeholder/Wikidata was inadequate for Starkloff's article.
 * Determine that the copyright status this Missouri Dept. of Natural Resources document is. Some state governments release their documents into the public domain. I don't know about Missouri. If it is in the public domain, the pictures could be gleaned.
 * https://web.archive.org/web/20061008210650/http://www.dnr.mo.gov/env/hwp/bvcp/docs/St%20Louis%20City%20Hospital.pdf
 * Any more relevant images as they become available would be great!
 * Peaceray (talk) 05:15, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Determine that the copyright status this Missouri Dept. of Natural Resources document is. Some state governments release their documents into the public domain. I don't know about Missouri. If it is in the public domain, the pictures could be gleaned.
 * https://web.archive.org/web/20061008210650/http://www.dnr.mo.gov/env/hwp/bvcp/docs/St%20Louis%20City%20Hospital.pdf
 * Any more relevant images as they become available would be great!
 * Peaceray (talk) 05:15, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Peaceray (talk) 05:15, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Edit-a-Thon
Anyone else finding self with more time at home right now? Anyone want to work on anything in an organized manner for a limited (I hope!) time? --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 18:52, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles to work on
Is it ok for anyone to edit the articles to work on section? If so, please say so here. If not, know that I created the Forest Park Highlands article. Other articles on the request list have been created too. Also: I think the Delmar Loop Trolley is no longer a "stub" or "very short article." --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 23:55, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

St. Louis Blues
Hey all,

My name is HickoryOughtShirt?4 and I'm a member of WikiProject Ice Hockey. I'm attempting the lofty goal of reaching WP:Good topic status for the 2018–19 St. Louis Blues roster (status here). An amateur photographer on Flickr has generously allowed the use of his photos on Wikipedia but not all the players were there/got good photos. Assuming most people here are from the St. Louis area, I was wondering if you have any photos of players to upload them to Wikimedia Commons or chip in and help expand some articles. Thanks and stay safe! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 13:01, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Proposed Rewrites of World Wide Technology Article
NOTE: I am proposing these edits for FleishmanHillard on behalf of World Wide Technology. I am a paid editor and aware of the COI guidelines. I have posted proposed revisions/rewrite to the World Wide Technology article’s Talk page and wanted to flag this to related WikiProjects to hopefully gain consensus or feedback from editors on proposed re-writes. Thank you for your consideration! Jon Gray (talk) 15:52, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the note here. If no one else gets to this in the next few days, send us a reminder here and I'll have time to look through your edits later this week. I hope all is well on your side of the state (as much as can be these days). We've got rain and chill over here. Ajpolino (talk) 16:19, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ! Much appreciated. (It's chilly here too, but it'll be 83 on Thursday...but that's Missouri for you!) Jon Gray (talk) 00:28, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Discussion of interest
Members of this project may be interested in this discussion. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

William Tecumseh Sherman Featured article review
I have nominated William Tecumseh Sherman for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  00:33, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Mayor of St. Louis
I've started a discussion on the numbering scheme used at the page Mayor of St. Louis on its Talk page. The discussion can be found here. Given the possibility that the result could impact a lot of important STL-related articles, I thought it'd be useful to drop a link here. Thanks. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 09:14, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

1968 Ozark Air Lines and 1943 Waco glider crashes
Howdy all. I'm primarily interested in aviation but I'm working on a couple of articles that are potentially of interest to this project. Thanks, Carguychris (talk) 18:51, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I've written a draft article on Ozark Air Lines Flight 965, a Douglas DC-9 jetliner that struck a Cessna 150 on approach to Lambert Field in 1968, killing both pilots in the Cessna; the DC-9 was only lightly damaged. The article draft relies almost entirely on the NTSB report, but I'd like to add details from newspapers or histories in St. Louis. Feel free to edit the draft and add more info, preferably with citations.
 * In 1943, a Waco CG-4 military glider crashed at an airshow at Lambert Field, killing St. Louis mayor William D. Becker, notable St. Louis aviation pioneer William B. Robertson, six other area VIPs, and two USAAF pilots. This incident is currently summarized briefly in the glider article, but it easily meets WP:GNG, and really deserves its own dedicated stand-alone article (which presumably will be titled 1943 St. Louis Waco CG-4 glider crash). However, I don't have access to St. Louis news articles and histories that could provide information and citations. Help gathering sources that meet WP:RS would be appreciated. (Incidentally, Waco in this context is the name of an aircraft manufacturer unrelated to the city in Texas, and is pronounced WAH-coe rhyming with "taco", not WAY-coe like the city.)

Transportation Pages
Hi all. I've been going through and making edits to various transportation pages that are woefully outdated. I spoke with Grey Wanderer and we both agreed that having separate pages for the city and metropolitan area was a bit redundant considering the city only accounts for 10% of the region and nearly all of its major routes extend further into the metropolitan area.

I've already migrated all the information from the Transportation in Greater St. Louis page to the Transportation in St. Louis page. Gary will remove the Greater St. Louis page as I'm not sure how to do it.

I've also updated all of the MetroLink station pages and added updated information regarding expansions plans on the main page. Lightmetro (talk) 23:35, 22 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that! I will copy this comment to Talk:Transportation in St. Louis so that relevant discussion can take place there. Grey Wanderer (talk) 04:29, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass WPBannerMeta a new custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:33, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre (Maryland Heights, Missouri)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre (Maryland Heights, Missouri) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 19:45, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri
United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Hog Farm Talk 15:17, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Joe Garagiola Sr.
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Joe Garagiola Sr. that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:10, 12 January 2024 (UTC)