Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stagecraft/Archive 6

Photo idea
This sprung off of the discussion on the PAR 64 talk page. I post it here rather than the photo suggestions page beucase more people will see it here and give feedback.

OK, so take any light, lets say a fresnel, put it on a table 15 feet from a wall. Put a 500 watt lamp in, shine it at the wall, and take a picture. Change the ;amp to 1 kw without changing the focus and take another pic. Do this with other instruments (as applicable) until we have a bunch of pics showing the different shapes different lights make. Swap out the lenses too if doing an ERS. This would also be a good time to do all that bench focusing youve been meaning to get around to. Ideas/Thoughts/Volunteers ??? KeepOnTruckin Complain to me 03:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It may take a while, but I'm sure we can get that done. Where I work we typically only stock one wattage lamp for each fixture to avoid confusion by students, so I can't do the 500 and 1000 idea. -JWGreen (talk) 04:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Feature Article
I was just looking and noticed there are no featured articles in this project. How about we try and get the Three top importance B class articles up to standard. Leaderofearth (talk) 10:25, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Those would be microphone, stage lighting, and stage lighting instruments for the lazy people like me. KeepOnTruckin Complain to me 00:32, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Of those articles at the moment Stage lighting instruments and Microphone look like our best shot. Leaderofearth (talk) 03:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

First Roll Call of 2008
It's been a while- last one was in November, so I though we should all catch up on things.

JWGreen
I just finished working on a production of Quilters, and am now moving into a very busy month of March. My college is hosting a Peace Prize Forum and wants to impress people by going green, so we are renting LED's and using only ETC Source Fours and Source Four PARs for the conventional lighting. The challenging part of that is we are in four venues on campus for it. After that we have light hang for Night of the Iguana which has to be done in one day because the whole set has beams and other obsticals that would prevent us from flying in the electrics, but the college doesn't want us to put the set on the forestage because there is going to be an awards banquet on stage the weekend before we open. Its going to be an interesting time... However I have the week off so I'll be working on some articles, trying to get Stage lighting in better shape and other general improvements, as well as keeping track of my watchlist. -JWGreen (talk) 19:39, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I also just came across this article: Proposed Bulb Ban Causes Chain Reaction and found the David Cunningham patent quite interesting. I hope that pans out, as it will allow stage lighting to go green without changing much in the way things are done. -JWGreen (talk) 20:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

DJSparky
Sloooow in the Great White North, but fortunately our sideline of providing pyrotechnics to major sporting teams is payin rent till the next round of theatrical productions kicks off. On a wholly unrelated note, I don't own a camera. If anyone has some good atmospheric or pyrotechnic pics they'd be willing to add to the wikimedia commons, that'd be great. DJSparky (talk) 00:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, if anyone would be interested in helping, editing with the terminology page to include links to new pages that'd probably be good. DJSparky (talk) 23:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Cryptic C62
I've been busy building my high school's set for Romeo and Juliet. We've brought in a professional painter to teach us some layering techniques, and it's already starting to look really cool. In addition to four massive textured walls, we've also rented a spiral staircase.

I haven't contributed much to stagecrafty articles recently, as I've been working with Wikiproject Chemistry. If I finish what I'm working on, I might tinker with the proposed Featured Article ideas. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 11:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Wilflet
I'm still around, doing this and that. ~Wilflet (talk) 23:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Leaderofearth
I have just lit a play for one of the amature company's I frequent. I am now working on a one night concert (and found a Jands event is much different to a Strand GSX). Wikiwise I have been a bit quiet lately due to lack of time and too much else to do. Leaderofearth (talk) 19:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Bards
Been practicing hard for the local mayor's charity show, which I opened last night (in a band) and finished (in a choir); and just started rehearsals for this year's Music Hall production which runs throughout the summer. I want to continue learning about stagecraft, so I am happy to help where I can at wikipedia, mainly building and improving category structures while I read the articles. Bards (talk) 12:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Binksternet
Lots of odd jobs kicked in after the holidays for this audio freelancer... a normal year for me. Here, I've been working on a few articles having to do with audio pioneers: John Kenneth Hilliard was the head of sound at Universal then head sound engineer at MGM and was key in designing the Voice of the Theater loudspeaker for Altec-Lansing. Rudy Bozak was a loudspeaker designer in Connecticut who made theater and industrial loudspeakers but is best known for his expensive home audiophile speakers. Scores of additional audio pioneer pages deserve a good looking at and scores more haven't yet been written. Binksternet (talk) 12:49, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

KeepOnTruckin
Well the big news is i got to touch/see/use/"operate" a brand new ETC Ion, ETC page which im not sure if it has been officially released, but its going to be quite expensive. Im hesitant to say operate because it wasnt actually connected to any lights or dimmers. But I got to play with it anyways. Touch screens with drop down menus make programming moving lights easy and it also has the encoder wheels. And some submasters. On wikipedia im adding more photos and i will attempt to compile all the photos onto the photos page Heres a pic of the Ion: Image:ETC Ion lighting console.jpg

Looks very nice. but i think I'll stick to my pearl. ~Wilflet (talk) 11:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Compiling Articles
The number of articles aggregating technical jobs and positions seems to be getting a little out of hand, or at least hard to keep track of. So far there's Running crew, Stagehand, List of theatre personnel,, Category:Entertainment occupations, Category:Stage crew, Category:Theatrical professions, Category:Entertainment industry unions and Category:Theatrical occupations. Some jobs overlap lots of these links, some are only in one. Is there, or more importantly, should there be a specific set of criteria / hierarchy for sorting positions. DJSparky (talk) 02:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Category:Theatrical occupations should be merged with Category:Theatrical professions. Category:Stage crew and Category:Entertainment occupations can't really be merged with anything else. -JWGreen (talk) 03:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have nominated merging Category:Theatrical occupations with Category:Theatrical professions at categories for discussion. -JWGreen (talk) 03:59, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * As creator of Category:Theatrical professions, I have disgreed strongly with your proposal. Notice that 'occupations' is part of a much bigger hierarchy which only contains named people. Further reasons are given on the Proposal Log page. It would have been much simpler if you had discussed this with me first, rather than initiating an official debate. I would be happy to join your project, if you like, as I have categorised 100s of theatre articles over the last year, and built up much of the structure there. Bards (talk) 14:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Clearly I didn't know what I was in for when I made my initial query. And evidently I failed to include sufficient specifics.  I was not advocating merging all these article and categories, per se, as much as I was trying to note overlap and inconsistencies. I see the differences between Category:Theatrical professions and Category:Theatrical occupations, and made more specific comments in the Proposal Log.  On the other hand, the entire contents of Category:Stage crew (except Template:Running crew) are already contained within Category:Theatrical professions and yet not wholly listed in Stagehand.  There are jobs listed in the List of theatre personnel page that are not in the Category:Theatrical professions pages.  For that matter, does the List of theatre personnel page make sense to be redone as a main article for the Theatrical professions category? DJSparky (talk) 16:59, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Your other criticisms sound good to me. The theatre structure was a good deal messier when I started on it, and there is still plenty to be done. For instance, category:Theatre contained 100s of articles about companies, directors, actors etc which had been dropped there without further thought, and I have cleared it, putting those (and other articles) into the proper places. More work could still be done there. / I have hardly changed individual articles at all, and I agree the lists of jobs are cluttered and overlapping, and could be simplified. It was vaguely on my list, but I haven't got around to it yet. / The stagecraft cat was also very cluttered and unstructured. For instance, I created subcats for 'scenic design' and 'theatrical sound production'; and I linked in existing categories such as 'costume design'; and then populated them. There is still plenty of work to do there, and I don't have the in-depth knowledge of stagecraft to do a thorough job, so I've been moving things quite tentatively to make inroads. Bards (talk) 17:36, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Merge suggestion
It's been suggested that McCandless Method be merged into Stanley McCandless. Anyone who wants to comments should go to those pages to do so. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz)  (talk / cont)  22:36, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

OT Question
Has anyone ever heard of, or know anything about a Mole Richardson Super Pup? I have found two kicking around a theatre and no one there has any idea how old they might be. By the looks of it it would could be from the same era as the Strand Patt. 123, it looks similar but with some very nice features, like barn doors that rotate on rollers and the whole top of the light opening up. Leaderofearth (talk) 12:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

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Logo/icon
Hi, I was perusing one of your stubs and I noticed that the image in the stagecraft stub template is not very good. (It's supposed to be some kind of spot, maybe an ellipsoidal, right? Well, it's probably not obvious to everyone.) Anyway, I found that none of your templates have a decent image and being the budding graphic artist I am, I took the the theatre mask icon (I'm sure you've seen it) and made you a stagecraft/technical theatre version. Hope you like. I'll go ahead and be bold and use it on the stub template.--HereToHelp (talk to me) 02:44, 7 December 2008 (UTC)