Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stations/Archive 2

AfD notification regarding Seaholme railway station, Melbourne
This article has been nominated for AfD at WP:Articles_for_deletion/Seaholme_railway_station%2C_Melbourne Nk.sheridan     Talk  23:22, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Assessment
Does this project do assessments? Simply south (talk) 23:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Bristol Temple Meads
Bristol Temple Meads railway station is currently rated B-class, but recent edits have probably moved this close to GA. before I turn it over for a formal assesment, perhaps members of this project would like to take a look and see what else needs doing. Geof Sheppard (talk) 16:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

A question
Hello! Please let me know how Kirikaki platform (切り欠きホーム) is called in English. On the right diagram, #1 platform is called Kirikaki platform (切り欠きホーム) in Japan. It is used for branch line or short train. It exists in many station. For example at Ayase Station there exists Kirikaki platform #0 for Kita-ayase branch. Please see image:TokyoMetro-ayase-platform-for-kitaayase.jpg Thank you. Penpen (talk) 15:30, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Bay platform? – Matthew25187 (talk) 23:45, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

User Badge
I created a user badge for the project today.

Copy and paste this on your userpage: User Stations WikiProject To get this:

U.S. railway stations without geographical coordinates
I've used CatScan to generate a list of U.S. railway stations that lack geographical coordinates.

The articles are all marked with coord missing tags, which need to be replaced with coord tags that contain the location's latitude/longitude coordinates; or you might be able to add coordinates to an existing infobox, where appropriate. You can find out how to do this, and how to format coord tags, at the Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members. -- The Anome (talk) 13:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Just a note that, over the past couple of months, I've managed to clear from the list (I think) all the remaining active Amtrak stations, Metra (Chicago) stations, Metro North (New York) stations, and New Jersey Transit stations, along with a few others. I hope I haven't missed anything. I'm getting rather tired of this activity for the moment, though, so I'll leave the other U.S. commuter lines for someone else. Deor (talk) 02:39, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Railway stations in other countries without geographical coordinates
Lists for other countries can be generated similarly to the above, by changing the category entries in the search form in the obvious way.

For example: -- The Anome (talk) 13:12, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * list of railway stations in Japan lacking geographical coordinates
 * Railway stations in Australia missing geographic coordinates
 * Railway stations in France missing geographic coordinates
 * Railway stations in Germany missing geographic coordinates

Sheffield station
I'm not an expert on your assessment of pages, so I thought I'd better ask here: Sheffield station is rated B class but has just one reference and only a limited amount of content. Would one of you possibly have a look and see if the rating should be downgraded? Many thanks, Schumi555 (talk) 15:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

More UK stations to geocode
I've made a list of disused, heritage, and proposed UK railway stations that need geocoding at User:The Anome/Yet more railway stations to geocode. A specialized page is available at User:The Anome/Disused and heritage UK railway stations still lacking coordinates for picking pre-Beeching-Axe stations off old maps. -- The Anome (talk) 12:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Review and assessment request
Hello. Could I get a review and assessment of Nashville Riverfront (Music City Star station). It's a short article, but I think it includes pretty much every piece of info ever published about the station. Thanks! Kaldari (talk) 16:37, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Cat:IATA-indexed railway stations
FYI, Category:IATA-indexed railway stations has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.192.144 (talk) 04:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

train station names
(notice cross-posted at WikiProject Trains also) I'm not a trains person but have been coming across multiple articles about U.S. NRHP-listed and other train stations and renaming them, while working on disambiguation pages like Union Station (disambiguation). I found my way to the proposal on naming conventions for stations, and opened a new discussion section at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (stations). Please visit. doncram (talk) 16:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Flag stops?
There are many stops listed for inter-city lines in Canada where there is no station per se, but instead trains will stop to take on or drop passengers who pre-arrange. These are "flag stops", and I'm wondering whether or not they should be counted as stations as far as WP Stations is concerned. Thanks,  PK T (alk)  15:02, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Paris Métro Line 12/GA2
A GA review of Paris Métro Line 12 has been put on hold for seven days. Clean up and cite tags have been placed on the article to indicate where work needs to be done.  SilkTork  *YES! 02:07, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Ridership
I'm creating a list of stations for SEPTA Regional Rail and want to include ridership in the table. SEPTA's business plan lists the daily boardings and alightings for each station. For the ridership column, should I use the boardings value, alightings value, or should I add them both together for a total? – Dream out loud (talk) 07:25, 6 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Why not enter the ridership in each station article, where parameters already exist, instead of hidden in some remote list? Oh! Perhaps you don't want to do that much work. Secondarywaltz (talk) 18:00, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I was planning on doing both and just wanted an opinion. Oh!  And perhaps you don't have to be such a jerk. – Dream out loud  (talk) 00:23, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry you took my comments out of context. Some people have to prioritize what time they can contribute to Wikipedia. I was about to offer help in setting up a database template, so the station articles don't have to be reedited every time the statistics change. See Spadina (TTC) for an example of how this works to give a total ridership for two lines. Secondarywaltz (talk) 01:59, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Hoax?
I've prodded the article Iwade Railway Station because I can find no evidence of the existence of such a station. I am, however, not a resident of the UK, and if anyone more familiar with the area can supply a source relating to the supposed station, please feel free to do so and deprod it. Deor (talk) 21:15, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * A bit late to the party, but Swale Halt is the nearest to Iwade. Maybe a redirect would be in order as a plausible search term? Mjroots (talk) 05:20, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Rename of Template:Infobox station
has been proposed for renaming; see Template talk:Infobox station. -- Red rose64 (talk) 12:16, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Former railway stations in the United States
Category:Former railway stations in the United States, which is under the purview of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. --Scott Alter (talk) 00:29, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Gare de la Bastille
The Gare de la Bastille article needs reassessment please. Mjroots (talk) 05:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Categories for stations which are no longer open
A WP:CFD regarding and its subcategories has been raised at Categories for discussion/Log/2011 May 30. Please discuss there. -- Red rose64 (talk) 11:54, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Stations in Poland naming convention
Hello, after some discussion at WikiProject Poland, I have created Naming conventions (stations in Poland). Please take a look and conribute any thoughts you have. Thanks, SeveroTC 08:00, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox GB station simple
Template:Infobox GB station simple has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Red rose64 (talk) 00:24, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:Major railway stations in Britain - inclusion criteria
There has been discussion in the last few weeks about the criteria for inclusion of stations in. Please comment at Template talk:Major railway stations in Britain. -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:45, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Two(?) disused stations in Nottinghamshire
After looking at old OS maps, I suspect that the articles Gedling railway station and Gedling and Carlton railway station are actually about the same station, as I can see only one station on the specified line in the vicinity. (That the two articles are geocoded with identical sets of coordinates is my doing and will have to be changed if it turns out that these are different stations—although the coordinates in the articles were essentially identical before I came on them.) Can anyone find any further information about this, or does anyone have access to the sources listed in the latter article? If they turn out to be one and the same, I guess Gedling railway station should be redirected to the other article. Deor (talk) 11:49, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The single source in Gedling railway station is "British Railways Pre-Grouping Atlas and Gazetteer". Assuming that this refers to
 * an awful lot of inference has been made from a book that doesn't give any information whatsoever about: train routes (other than what the adjacent stations were); usage for passengers or freight; relative importance; closure; or current status. About the only thing which can truly be verified by that atlas is:
 * Gedling railway station was a station on the Great Northern Railway
 * Although this atlas names the station simply as "Gedling" on map 41, section F5 and in the gazetteer (p. 64), Butt doesn't list that name, but shows that Gedling and Carlton railway station was on the Great Northern Railway; it opened 1 February 1876, closed 4 April 1960. -- Red rose64 (talk) 09:19, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Although this atlas names the station simply as "Gedling" on map 41, section F5 and in the gazetteer (p. 64), Butt doesn't list that name, but shows that Gedling and Carlton railway station was on the Great Northern Railway; it opened 1 February 1876, closed 4 April 1960. -- Red rose64 (talk) 09:19, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Merge of two stations in Leicester, England
I've proposed that Leicester Campbell Street railway station be merged into Leicester railway station. Please discuss at Talk:Leicester railway station. -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:24, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Tarbrax railway station
Could someone (preferably someone with access to the Butt reference used in the article) take a look at Talk:Tarbrax railway station and confirm or controvert the existence of this supposed station. If there aren't any reliable references for it, I suppose prod or AfD is the next step. Deor (talk) 13:32, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

West Halton railway station
OK, I have another one for you folks, similar to the one immediately above. The article has one source (British Railway Atlas [1947], p. 22); but looking at old OS maps I see something labeled "West Halton Sidings" with a couple of short sidings but no sign of a passenger station (or any structures of any sort). Could you check your reference books to see what was actually here? Would it qualify as a "railway station" worthy of an article. Deor (talk) 13:41, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
 * This one is genuine; see for example
 * "The initial passenger service, calling at Winterton & Thealby and West Halton, consisted of three trains each way." -- Red rose64 (talk) 15:23, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, good. Thanks for spiffing up the article, too. Deor (talk) 18:33, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, good. Thanks for spiffing up the article, too. Deor (talk) 18:33, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Bahnhof and Template:Infobox Deutsche Bahn station
Template:Infobox Bahnhof and Template:Infobox Deutsche Bahn station are nominated for merge. Please comment at Templates for discussion/Log/2012 November 7. -- Red rose64 (talk) 22:41, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Rewrite of Template:Infobox Manchester Metrolink station, plus new features
Please comment at Template talk:Infobox Manchester Metrolink station. Thanks. -- Red rose64 (talk) 20:58, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Linking to railway station
Please see discussion at WT:UKRAIL, which apparently also affects non-UK articles. -- Red rose64 (talk) 23:13, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Railway station articles: lists of bus routes
Please see discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject London Transport. -- Red rose64 (talk) 11:37, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Route boxes on station articles: contrast problem
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains. -- Red rose64 (talk) 22:11, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Wolferton railway station
Comments are invited at Talk:Wolferton railway station. -- Red rose64 (talk) 23:18, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Move discussion
There's a requested-move discussion at Talk:Karachi City Station to which members of this project may want to contribute. Deor (talk) 13:05, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Central station for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Central station is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Central station until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:26, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Colored link text
Interested parties, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains, where a discussion has been going on about the practice of changing colors on links (which is discouraged by a Manual of Style guideline) in running text and in "Station layout" tables. I don't know how many, if any, articles under this project contain such links/tables, but folks here might have opinions or additional information they want to offer. - dcljr (talk) 18:15, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Rail start
Template:Rail start has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Red rose64 (talk) 10:55, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Station naming guidelines
I noticed this discussion rather late which is of importance Wikipedia_talk:Article_titles. Simply south...... cooking letters for just 7 years 15:30, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Name of article for railway station in Saint Paul, Minnesota
A discussion has been opened on the name of the article covering the union station in St. Paul, Minnesota. The discussion can be found at Talk:Saint Paul Union Depot. Kablammo (talk) 01:32, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Number of platforms
I've long been slightly vexed by the 'Platforms' row in the station infobox, only listing in use platforms, and thus not telling the whole story if a station is larger than that with platforms which could potentially at some stage be re-opened. I've noticed recently a couple of stations that instead have in their infobox 'Platforms: X (X in use)' which is a far better encyclopedic approach I think. Is there an official project approach to this? Grunners (talk) 10:53, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I've always taken it to mean the number of platforms actually in use for scheduled services, as opposed to those that only get used when engineering work forces the temporary closure of the main ones. For example, at Tilehurst and Goring and Streatley there are four tracks, and each has a platform face: two on the main lines and two on the relief. Only the relief line platforms have scheduled services (stopping service Paddington-Oxford every half hour in each direction), but when there is engineering work on the relief, local trains are run main line, and so use the other two platforms instead; these trains also need to non-stop Pangbourne, which only has two plats - on the relief lines. -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:50, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * There is no reason that this should not be explained by a line of text in the article, in fact I think it is better to do that. Infoboxes are meant to contain the basics and not be overstuffed. Yes you can put the numbers in the infobox, but if extended details are required do it elsewhere, as per the examples given. Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:59, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd actually go for 4 in the case of Tilehurst, as I would count "active" platforms, ie ones which are in use, whether or not trains stop there regularly. This means I would agree with RedRose for Queen's Park, as the WCML platforms are blocked off. However I would count 2 at Parson Street, as while there is a third platform face against a running line, the only trains which pass are freight trains to Portishead. -mattbuck (Talk) 20:09, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I interpret it as meaning the number of platforms currently available to passenger trains, so 4 at Tilehurst, 2 at Parson Street. I don't think there is a citable source that states which platforms trains are timetabled to use at different times in the week, so claiming that they have 2 or 3 respectively could lay an editor open to claims of Original Research! Geof Sheppard (talk) 13:52, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Platform usage is given in the working timetable, which despite the notice "Private and not for publication", has been online for over 2 years now, linked from the main Current timetables page on Network Rail. For example, Tilehurst is in Book PA04; in that book, platform numbers are given for Reading, Didcot, Oxford and Swindon; platforms at other stations on lines having more than two tracks (Tilehurst, Goring & Streatley, Cholsey) may be inferred by looking at the rows titled "dep-line". Consider 2L36, the 05:54 Reading to Banbury (calling at all stations except Appleford), given in columns 45 and 48. This is shown as starting from Platform 13 at Reading (row 1), running RL (Relief Line) upon departure from Reading (row 3); after Reading West Junction (row 7); and at Didcot East Junction (row 21); before using Platform 3 at Didcot (row 24). Because the code ML (Main Line) is not shown at either Tilehurst East Junction or Moreton Cutting (these being the only two points between Reading West Jc and Didcot East Jc where relief-to-main crossovers exist), this train must therefore run relief line through all stations between Tilehurst and Cholsey inclusive. Now comes the OR: can we find any trains calling at Tilehurst etc. which have ML in the relevant "dep-line" rows (Reading 3; Reading West Jn 7; Tilehurst East Jn. 10; Moreton Cutting 18; Didcot East Jn 21)? -- Red rose64 (talk) 00:50, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

LRT station article titles
Please see discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains. Useddenim (talk) 18:07, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Help needed


Does anyone know anything about those two RR-paintings? We are looking for a source so we can safely keep the images on Commons. Any additional information is also very welcome! Thanks for your time! -- Hedwig in Washington (TALK) 03:49, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure exactly what you want, Hedwig; is the information on the image pages—engravings by John Harris (by the way, the artist who did the drawings on which the engravings were based was Andrew Nicholl), published by Wakeman in 1834—not sufficient to show that the works are not subject to copyright? As for the sources of the digital images uploaded to WP, I can't find any one place online from which they could have been taken; an image of the first one, but not the second, can be seen on the National Library of Ireland site, and an image of the second can be seen here, though that may be a copy of our image. Isn't it most likely that the suite of images of the Dublin and Kingstown Railway, all of which seem to have been originally uploaded by different accounts, were simply scanned from copies of the prints themselves—perhaps modern copies but certainly not copyrightable? Deor (talk) 14:24, 6 June 2014 (UTC)


 * No, not copyrightable. But the images still show up in the category of files without source and I couldn't find anything online either. Ww2censor had a splendid idea and searched the Irish National Library. Sources found, info updated = everything good! Thanks for your time! ✅ -- Hedwig in Washington (TALK) 21:55, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Station disambiguation (June 2014)
Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways. -- Red rose64 (talk) 09:52, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Disused-stations
Template:Disused-stations has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Red rose64 (talk) 08:48, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Further to the above, please see Reliable sources/Noticeboard. -- Red rose64 (talk) 21:35, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Indonesian Railway Stations
Hi. Whilst doing some clean-up after a disruptive editor, I noticed that our articles on Indonesian railway stations and halts tend to be rather thread-bare. This is completely outside my area of expertise, so I thought I'd mention it here. If we have a specialist in South-East Asian railways here, perhaps they might look at these articles when they have an idle moment. There's probably plenty to do, as this template shows:

Thanks. RomanSpa (talk) 06:31, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet for Wikiproject Stations at Wikimania 2014
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Burbank (DART station)
It looks like there should be made some changes in this article. See this help request. -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 15:17, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * This appears to be sorted. Mackensen (talk) 20:28, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!


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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Proposal to remove several of Template:Infobox station's parameters
Please see this post. Alakzi (talk) 18:58, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Deletion nomination of Template:Midland Metro stops
I've nominated Midland Metro stops for deletion as redundant to Infobox station at TfD. Your input would be appreciated. Alakzi (talk) 15:11, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority
A proposal for the creation of WikiProject Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority is now live - the page is here and comments are welcome! Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty &#124; Averted crashes 21:16, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Several proposed names/scopes
Note your input is also sought on the several proposed names and scopes, made as this proposal has been reviewed.

Your input is still sought on the proposed WikiProject WikiProject Council/Proposals/Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority. Thank You — Lentower (talk) 20:42, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Bot to make changes in infobox station?
Please check Bots/Requests for approval/EnzetBot. There is a bot request that concerns this wikiproject. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:00, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Waterhouses (County Durham) railway station
Waterhouses (County Durham) railway station is proposed for merging to Waterhouses, County Durham. Please discuss at Talk:Waterhouses, County Durham. -- Red rose64 (talk) 23:11, 17 December 2015 (UTC)