Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sweden/Archive 1

Articles
Here are some articles that I have found which I think would fit this project. All are architectural articles but they are well writen and they cover interesting and unique objects/subjects.

Balder - A short article but well written, there is only two simular rollercoasters in the world so it makes it somewhat unique.

Landshövdingehus - Stumbled across this article and found it very interesting, it covers a object which is unique to Sweden.

Gothenburg Opera, Drottningholm Palace Theatre and Royal Swedish Opera - Key article to culture in sweden.

--Krm500 11:18, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your suggestions.
 * I'm adding articles based on their potential interest to foreigners. As such, I do not consider Balder, Landshövdingehus core articles. One way to determine potential interest, is to look at the interwiki-links to each articles, by which you can determine how much interest there is in the subject world-wide.
 * I've added Drottningholm and Royal Swedish Opera.
 * Fred-Chess 14:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

East Indiaman Götheborg is a good candidate. Rumour has it that it might stay in Shanghai until the Expo 2010. --Krm500 11:39, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I added it. / Fred-Chess 12:58, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Nordea should IMO be part of the economy section --Krm500 22:19, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I now added it and some other companies ( Assa Abloy, Investor AB, etc) / Fred-Chess 07:07, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Sport atricles: Zlatan Ibrahimović, Henrik Larsson, Nicklas Lidström, Markus Näslund and Frölunda HC. --Krm500 22:54, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Lund should be added to "cities". --Winterus 15:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

New facts to Project Sweden, please extend and use references: Lars Ernster, Raoul Wallenberg in Budapest: memorial [] and 1945_The_Swedish_Embassy []

Featured pictures
How about trying too get some swedish related pictures fetured? There are some beutiful pictures that might stand a chance of fetured status. Maybe a picture of Turning Torso or Uppsala Cathedral? Any other suggestions? --Krm500 11:39, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I know there are lots of nice pictures of Sweden but I have not seen any interest in selecting them and trying to get them featured.... I ran a "Swedish picture of the day" on Commons for a while, but there was very little interest in maintaining it.
 * Fred-Chess 20:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Assesment?
How about some sort of an assesment project for all the core articles? Rated by importance to this project and the quality of the article? But not only that, it's a way too advertise the project, maybe some new members could come along? --Krm500 22:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


 * If someone wants to assess articles, please go head. user:Pia_L thought we shouldn't make this too complex and I agreed with her. There are around 10,000 articles related to Sweden, and I don't want to start assessing them.
 * Fred-Chess 20:13, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually I would like to start an assessment but there are two problems: first of all, many articles shouldn't be assessed under a general "Swedish" project, but rather in a subproject such as "WikiProject Swedish music", "WikiProject Swedish history", or similar. Secondly, I have no previous experience with WikiProject assessment and feel uncomfortable starting an assessment department that no-one is interested in maintaining.
 * Fred-Chess 13:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I was thinking that an assesment would be a good way to keep track of the progress. And I wasn't thinking about a full scale 10 000 article assesment but maybe all that are on the project front page. Plus it's a good way to get new members, like a little banner on all talk pages. I could try starting up an assesment but IMO since it's going to be rather small we could just keep it here and not make an assesment/WP:SWE page.--Krm500 15:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Krm500, we would probably need to create one sub-page for each category in need of assessment, since we have so many core articles already. It's just going to be too bulky and hard to manage otherwise, I think. But we can link the statistics to the front page that Fred created so that there's a running tally of how the project is doing as a whole. How about using the code Plange has implemented on the Firefly project as a base for the Sweden project? I copied it to my sand box to see how it works, but I didn't enter any Swedish articles on any assessment page yet: . It's Plange's assessment page which is temporarily feeding into my sandbox now: and it updates the main project page automatically. Best, Pia 14:36, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Uhm, just noticed Editorial_Team_Assessment and WP:WVWP tonight. So does that mean that we have to be signed up as a sub-project somewhere in order to use that kind of "official" assessment scale then? And does it mean that only some categories (like Swedish literature/art/mythology, etc) can participate? Pia 07:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Eh, yes but I vote for no at this moment. The idea is too use it under Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment Sweden but this could be done at any time and we could get the project started first and see how it goes. Quote from me at in this text ''-"IMO since it's going to be rather small we could just keep it here and not make an assesment/WP:SWE page."

''--Krm500 10:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Krm500, sorry, I didn't understand that part of your statement, basically because I wasn't aware of the Editorial team's involvement with the various projects or the assistance available from them. Were you thinking about just adding a grade after each article on Fred's list instead then? My worries about that kind of assessment is how it would work practically: Would that mean that we are going to discuss the merits of each article on the talk page and then ask Fred to add (or add ourselves) the word "stub", "no references", "needs work", grade 3, class B, or whatever, after each article on his current list? Wouldn't doing it in a "small and easy" version on the current page make for a messy front page with possibly unconventional grading schemes? If we are going to encourage and invite people to assist with the assessment tasks and if we are also hoping to supply an overview of the assessments (in order to keep track of the progress of the project), it would perhaps make more sense to eventually invest the time and use the grading scale that's established already for other projects, as well as the established code that feeds automatically to a front-page summary of how many articles have been assessed and what state they are in at any given time. It will mean hard work setting it up, but after that it's pretty much a community effort that can run on slow, eternally. The assessment pages currently in use supply space for comments, where you can add f.ex "referenced, but unbalanced" or "well written, but no citations" etc to explain your grade. So people can go back over the assessments at any time and up the grade once the problems in the comment are addressed. Still: yeah, it's a lot of work. I'll ask someone at the editorial team, but I assume a first step would mean transferring the list of articles to an assessment page and add the grades "good" and "featured" for the articles that have met official FA and GA status, and then ask people to help enter graded assessments for the other articles, whether they are stubs, or fit in higher on the established grading scale (not GA or FA, obviously, since those are official categories). Even if the total assessment task is not finished until 2026 or so, at least we would have the tools set up to make it happen eventually? Just putting the idea out there for later use then. :) Pia 12:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I set up the Assessment department for the Football WikiProject, so in case you/we/whatever decide to start something similar for Sweden, I'll be glad helping in fixing the templates and pages needed for starters. – Elisson • T • C • 14:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Maybe we should assess all Sweden-related articles anyways -- within reason. I am not so used to projects. Could you think something up, maybe?
 * Fred-Chess 18:05, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Johan_Elisson, you would seem the perfect person to take that on. I think we need to make sure, as a start, that the placing of the "invitation to assess" tags on the various Sweden articles' talk pages is limited to those that are on Fred's official list or the assessment part of the project will quickly swell beyond the scope of the original project and become impossible to manage. When the tag is created, can it say something like: "This article is part of the Swedish article improvement drive, please help assess it. For other articles targeted in this drive, see Project Sweden." or something similar, to limit its use, at least for now? Pia 18:51, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Sighsten Herrgård
I'm trying to find a reference with information about the Swedish fashion designer and AIDS activist Sighsten Herrgård. He seems to have been quite a significant figure, and I think he deserves inclusion in the List of HIV-positive people. However, this is not possible without a reference, and I've been able to find anything in English. Can anyone help? Thanks. Trezatium 17:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Please ignore the above - someone has found a reference already. Trezatium 20:03, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Halltorps
Just a little heads up! The swedish related article on Hallstorp (an early Viking settlements on Öland) appeard on the front page of Wikipedia today (5 October) in the Did you know? section. --Krm500 22:24, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Established or Charter?
I need some help with a choice of words, should I use Charter, Established or something else? I'm working on the Gothenburg article and in the article the word Charter is used for when the city became a city. But everywhere else on Wikipedia, Established is used. The word is for when the city got City status in Sweden. --Krm500 09:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Well we should use the year of charter. You can also say "City in [year]". I don't know what articles you've been looking at but many countries don't have charters (USA for example), but if you look at English cities they will tell you when the city was granted its charter, e.g. equivalent City status in the United Kingdom.
 * Fred-Chess 11:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If you haven't noticed, I added some more suggestions in the ToDo box in Talk:Gothenburg / Fred-Chess 11:28, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I havn't noticed, I'm currently working on a new infobox for the article. Hard too find information though, like for example the area of metropolitan and urban Gothenburg. Or urban area population. When I'm done I'll start working on improving the article.--Krm500 22:26, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, they can be tricky... http://www.scb.se might have some information. I think that if you look at standard books about Gothenburg, they will usually have this kind of information. The municipal website might also have it. / Fred-Chess 18:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I have added the infobox now, take a look. --Krm500 23:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Just a note, we should not have such specific infoboxes. That one is only being useful for one single article, which sort of makes it useless having it as a template. I would suggest you propose changes to the general infobox for Swedish cities (Infobox Stad) instead. – Elisson • T • C • 23:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe a bad move by me, didn't think about much, the idea was to save space in the article. The template however isn't created by me, it's the standard city template from the WikiProject on Cities. Other cities that use the same infobox have their own template page, for example Template:Infobox New York City.--Krm500 00:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Project directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 17:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

A challenge from Norway
Hi! I have written the list former municipalities of Norway. I noticed that municipality mergers have taken place in Sweden as well, thus we should definitely create former municipalities of Sweden. The Swedish Wikipedia already has some sort of version at sv:Lista över försvunna svenska kommuner, but it is far from complete and lacks references. If someone can provide a good reference, like we have at the Norwegian version, I'll be glad to help in establishing this list! Punkmorten 19:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * By the say I set up a category Category:Former municipalities of Sweden. Please help populating it! :) Punkmorten 19:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Good articles
One idea with this project is that members could grant or fail good article candidates, since Swedish people are supposedely better at knowing omission etc of Swedish articles, and the good article works in a non-formal way so that anyone can grant or fail a good article nominee. Is there any interest in reviewing good article candidates? / Fred-Chess 13:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Absolutely, I think that it is a good idea but so far we're not so many members of the project so could such a little group of wikipedians pass an article for GA? --Krm500 00:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It depends if people want to do it. For example, if you nominate articles, I can review them. I've reviewed several articles already. / Fred-Chess 16:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

History of Sweden
Ive read some articles related to the History of Sweden, and this is a point where there needs to be done a lot of work... Most of it is just copied from Encyclopedia Britannica and contains loads of incorrect facts and complete nonsense.

So, instead of writing irritated posts at this project page, I though I should do something about it. I am studying history, so I have some idea what it is all about at least. :-)

Anyone interested in helping along? Maybe we could create a subpage about history to this project?

Nice to see that there is a project page about Sweden, by the way. My regards to all contributors!

--Screensaver 21:46, 12 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi. I had planned to write about History of Sweden, as soon as I brought Swedish literature to GA. But an urgent article came up so it will take some more days. You go ahead and start. I recommend the history books by Ingvar Andersson. They are called "History of Sweden" or similar and are available in both Swedish and English.
 * Fred-Chess 16:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the tip. Ive got a bunch of books as well, but theres always good with some extra. Most of what Ive got is in Swedish as well, and that isnt so good, since "normal" people cant check facts from it. Nice that someone else in interested in editing the topic.


 * --Screensaver 16:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm not very much of a "pure history" buff, but I plan to get the Military history of Sweden article up to FA status some time when I'm finished with all my ten thousand other plans... – Elisson • T • C • 17:53, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Sounds nice. Im no good at Military history, so its nice that someone else is interested in the topic. We need all help that we can get... : - ) --Screensaver 17:32, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately I'm having a lot of problems with Talk:Early Swedish history. A user thinks I'm vandalizing the article. / Fred-Chess 22:32, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Bomässan Bo01 and Västra hamnen
Hello, I found these two articles on the Swedish Wikipedia sv:Bomässan Bo01, and sv:Västra hamnen. Do you think we should have articles about them on en:? Would anyone like to translate them? Regards, DVD+ R/W 23:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Why not? It is part of a major infrastructure reformation of Malmö, I've been there and even though half the place was a construction area I loved it. But I don't have any time to translate the articles right now, sorry. --Krm500 00:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Nordic / Scandinavian task force on WikiProject military history?
It has been proposed on WikiProject military history to set up an either Nordic or Scandinavian task force. If you are intrested in this topic, please comment on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history. Cheers. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 10:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Swedish history, kings
Are there any thought on how important the Swedish kings are? Is Swedish history "a history of its kings"?

I added a bunch of kings to the core article section on the project page. Any opinions on that?

How important are older kings such as Magnus the Strong?

Fred-Chess 14:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm, the kings usually belong to a dynasty, and that dynasty is most often characterized by a certain politics, f.ex.:
 * Bernadotte (current): peace, trade and development,
 * Holstein-Gottorp (the Gustavians): autocracy, culture and royal mecenacy,
 * Pfalz (palatine, the Karls): autocracy, consolidation, conquest.
 * I think it's a fitting framework to describe various phases in Swedens history. Said: Rursus 07:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Two short articles to merge
I came across two articles about the same subject, Näsby Park and Näsbypark. After merging the content, the second article can be redirected to the first, as was done in the Swedish Wikipedia. Tim Shuba 08:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I've merged the latter into the former, and copyedited it a little.... does it look alright? / Fred-Chess 17:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for doing the merge. I copyedited it some more.  I would have performed the merge myself, but I thought someone in this project might pick up on things I could have missed, especially as I don't know Swedish.  Tim Shuba 20:31, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Ace of Base article re-write
Just thought I would point out that I've re-written the Ace of Base article. It was a mess before ! Hopefully you like the new one. AcerBen 12:32, 15 February 2007 (GMT)


 * It should be noted that in his edits, AcerBen alleged that the Swedish Anarcho-syndicalist Youth Federation were nazis and/or Sweden Democrats. :S Jobjörn  (Talk ° contribs) 17:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


 * A little misunderstanding only, and I hope AcerBen can sort us out on this. / Fred-Chess 18:15, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes I have made a mistake due to lack of research and I apologise. AcerBen 19:58, 18 February 2007 (GMT)

Raoul Wallenberg
Raoul Wallenberg is up for a featured article. Please read the article and leave critical comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Raoul Wallenberg. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 14:58, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I gave some comments. I could have given them here too, dunno... basically I just think the articles needs more work before it reaches FA quality. Nice work so far though. / Fred-Chess 22:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Members of the Riksdag
Hello. I'd just like to mention I've begun some kind of a one-man wikiproject on our MPs: members of the Riksdag. See User:Jobjörn/Riksdagsledamöter and feel free to help out. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 20:13, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Gray content boxing
Why oh why is the project page GRAY? Why all that useless formating? How about NOT boxing the contents? May I change that? Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 17:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yea, sure, no problem. / Fred-Chess 19:57, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Liked it better the previous way. --Krm500 00:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Me too. I especially loathe the long list of core articles. / Fred-Chess 16:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm going to put that into tables again, though. Wikitables, not HTML tables. Although, if I'm the only one preferring the white background... restore it and I won't argue. Jobjörn  (Talk ° contribs) 19:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

The Emigrants
I created those pages a couple of months ago, put I haven't had the time to make them of decent quality. Anyone wanna help me and contribute to those articles? --The monkeyhate 12:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Film titles
In film titles, the foreign version often becomes the title of the article, so we are having a discussion in Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (films), trying to establish what is correct for each language. We would appreciate if you could drop us a line about it. Hoverfish Talk 21:36, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Featured pictures
I just want to point out that a featured picture on Commons is not the same as a featured picture on English Wikipedia.


 * Image:Carta Marina.jpeg is a featured picture on English Wikipedia.
 * Image:Linköping-tekniska verken.jpg is a featured picture on Commons.

I think the difference is mainly that Commons featured pictures have less focus on encyclopedic use.

Fred-Chess 09:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Same-sex marriage in Sweden
It looks like this article should be updated. I read that a congressman from Sweden presented a report asking for gay-marriage (or something like that). A.Z. 10:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Task force
There has been a small discussion on the Elitserien article talk page about starting up a task force within this project. Basically the idea to give users who focus on ice hockey in sweden, a place to discuss and collaborate our efforts. I don't know if there are any special procedures for doing this so I ask here; Is it ok to start create for example WikiProject Sweden/Ice hockey? --Krm500 23:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Go ahead. Jobjörn  (Talk ° contribs) 00:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I think it sounds like a good idea. If Elisson is watching he could probably give further advice, with his experience in the WikiProject on football. / Fred-Chess 13:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Bilateral relations discussion
I would like to invite you all to participate in a discussion at this thread regarding bilateral relations between two countries. All articles related to foreign relations between countries are now under the scope of WikiProject Foreign relations, a newly created project. We hope that the discussion will result in a more clean and organized way of explaining such relationships. Thank you.  Ed  ¿Cómo estás? 18:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Request help with Stor grabb
Hello. Could someone from the project take a look at Stor grabb? The article seems to be of dubious reliability and I'm very tempted to prod it. In any case, the article would need some context. (oh and a category too!) Thanks in advance for your help. Pascal.Tesson 00:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I've slapped a db-nonsense tag on it. It's complete crap and it shouldn't stay even for five days. Jobjörn  (Talk ° contribs) 13:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * After searching the internet and looking the article on Swedish Wiki, it appears to be a valid article. Although I had never heard of it before. I'll add references. / Fred-Chess 15:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * ?? Somehow, I find these two comments hard to reconcile! Pascal.Tesson 16:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Fred Chess is right. "Stor grabb" is a pretty well known award if you are interrested in Swedish sports and it deserves its own article. The award actually has an article in Nationalencyklopedin. – Elisson • T • C • 16:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hm. My judgment was all too hasty - Fred Chess and Elisson are right and I am wrong. My sincere apologies. Jobjörn  (Talk ° contribs) 20:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject_Norse_history_and_culture
A new project has been started for people interested in ancient and medieval Norse history and culture. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 15:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

An invitation to categorize uncategorized Sweden-related stubs
Hello. The categorization taskforce is trying to find WikiProjects interested in using the bot of Alai to identify Sweden-related stub articles which do not currently have a category (besides the stub category of course). If the project is interested, we could create something like Category:Uncategorized Sweden-related stubs (amounting to roughly 200 articles) which could then be categorized by people knowledgeable in the subject, thus reducing the risk of improper categorization. Please let us know on the taskforce's talk page if you're interested. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 00:25, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Swedish coat of arms
The coat of arms that have been used for a while are starting to be deleted, because of stricter interpretation of copyrights. Some users on Sw. Wikipedia have started to make their own coat of arms in svg format. If you are interested in helping out, you can check commons:Category:Coats of arms of Sweden. There are quite good suggestions at sv:Wikipedia:Projekt svensk heraldik. / Fred-Chess 09:22, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Ebba von Sydow
Currently under AFD. I'm not entirely sure of her notability, but could someone check out the article. Tearlach 02:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * She is mostly known as a fashion blogger and fashion columnist in Swedish tabloids,but I fail to see how she´s relevant in a larger context.I can´t say that I know whether she´s known at all outside Sweden(I sincerely doubt it) ,but I doubt that it´s motivated to have an article on her in the english version Wiki.There are far more significant people that deserves a biography.//Cecilia Löwen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.216.34.252 (talk) 16:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Featured article candidate
Melodifestivalen is a featured article candidate. Comments much appreciated here. Thanks. Chwech | hum-dee-hum-hum 11:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

AfD - Lunds ASK
Editors might wish to be aware of Articles for deletion/Lunds ASK (2nd nomination). BlueValour 23:07, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Advice needed on kings names!!
Many kings before "Gustav I of Sweden" (properly known as Gustav Vasa) are badly named. F.ex. the guy that every one know as king Magnus Eriksson (of Sweden) is erroneously called Magnus IV of Sweden, which is (image a slight tone of hysteria here!), since the numbering accounts a guy Magnus Henriksen, a Danish lord that killed (Saint) Eric Jerdvardsson, dad to Canute I Eriksson. Now the numbering of the Swedish kings Charlses, Erics and Magnuses be removed, since they're nonstandard.

But I need some advice on the names of kings: I cannot decide without some qualified arguments and thinkings. (Or behold Rutabaga Kings!) Said: Rursus ☺ ★ 18:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * is Canute I Eriksson really acceptable, or should it be
 * Knut I Eriksson, or (horrors)
 * Canute I Son of Eric??
 * Knut is the correct common swedish version of the name,Canute is never used.//Cecilia Löwen

Controversial rename proposal, give your opinion!
Eric of Good Harvests should be moved to Eirik Arsale or possibly Erik Årsäll! Or not!! Discuss! Said: Rursus ☺ ★ 19:24, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion
Why not create an article of Amalia Lindegren (1814-1891), whom was the most notable female painter in Sweden in the Victorian era, and of Lisa Söderman-Lillström or Margareta Maria Fabritz, perhaps the first native actresses in Sweden in the 18th century?--85.226.235.144 11:09, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation of Swedish
Hello, everyone! I try to keep Swedish, which is a disambiguation page, clear of incoming links. (Dab pages should not be linked to because the links are not very useful to a reader; it's better to link directly to the article for the intended sense of an ambiguous word.) Of the eight pages I continually watch, Swedish is by a wide margin the one that grows incoming links (a.k.a. "shrooms") the fastest -- which is strange considering that one of my other pages is English! (I'm looking at it right now, and it's grown about 140 shrooms in the approximately two months since I last dabbed everything.) I'm posting here to ask those of you who participate in the project to please pipe your links to Swedish when you create them. (Examples: Swedish, Swedish .) Thanks! --Tkynerd 03:10, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Requested move for Nobel Prize in Economics
There is currently a survey to rename Nobel Prize in Economics → Bank of Sweden Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel. Your comments in this matter would be appreciated. The RM discussion will close on approximately 4 October 2007. –panda 02:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Citations and ISBNs
The article Norrbro and some 40 other pages cite Stockholms tekniska historia (1985) with a bad ISBN 91-37-08725-1. The correct one should be ISBN 91-38-08725-1. I could go through and correct the ISBN, but perhaps something else needs to be checked as well? Is this a good book and edition to cite? How do you typically handle errors of this kind in this WikiProject? Do you maintain a list of standard literature, and would this book be on that list? After all, it's cited in 40 articles. --LA2 08:22, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing  will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Jeepday (talk) 11:43, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


 * A Google maps search will put you right onto Florhed, Hälsingland. So the place exists. However, I fail to see an notability. It doesn't even seem to have a bus-stop, as the nearest bus stops are called Nolhead and Emböle. :) http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=florhed,+sweden&sll=61.329031,16.752777&sspn=0.009142,0.037465&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Florhed,+Sweden&t=h&z=13 --OpenFuture (talk) 09:22, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK by bot, someday
It should be possible to have a bot adding articles to the showcase section DYK. I don't know of any such bot that does not at the moment, but will keep my eyes open for it. Suggestions are welcome.

So, if you have created an article that was featured on DYK but it is not on the list here on the project page, it is probably because I didn't see it in the archives of DYK articles/article alaert or because I haven't had time to add it yet. When the list gets automated, it will get added.

Fred-J 12:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Shame on Sweeden
Ingvar Carlsson ansd ex-Prime Minister of your nation, and unreferenced and unloved for years. What type of Wikiproject are you guys running? --Scott Mac (Doc) 20:50, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * One built on trust and love?--Milowent (talk) 21:02, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Scott: WP:SOFIXIT.  The left orium  21:45, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'd rather he didn't. ;) I'll add a source instead. decltype (talk) 22:04, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, Carlssons most notable feat was looking like a shoe. ;) --OpenFuture (talk) 23:33, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it is the reason why user:Scott MacDonald want to delete it. --78.70.221.227 (talk) 21:23, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced living people articles bot
Okip  23:25, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Nobel Prize FA
I've been improving Nobel Prize for a long time now and it is finally nominated to FA. I would be grateful if people could go there and comment on the nomination or support the article if you like it. Cheers -- Esuzu ( talk  •  contribs ) 18:46, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Skåne County
User:BjörnBergman has changed the name of many articles from "Skåne County" into "Scania County". Isn't "Skåne County" the correct form?  The left orium  16:54, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * At least the official webpages of both the administrative board and the regional council use Skåne rather than Scania. Since the county is a political entity we should definitely use the official sources (refer to WP:RS), while the traditional province can use the name form Scania. Apparently a lot of articles have been affected. Tomas e (talk) 17:35, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

University colleges
It has come to my attention (for some time really, I haven't had time to delve into it until now...) that many of the Swedish university colleges (högskolor) are called "universities". For example Malmö University. This is incorrect and at least in Sweden potentially illegal. Either they should be called colleges or university colleges. They do not have the right to call themselves universities, even if they like to do so themselves in other languages than Swedish. See also List of universities in Sweden where the correct terms are used. That page should probably also be moved to list of universities and university colleges in Sweden, even if that would be a more complicated article title. /Grillo (talk) 11:47, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, Malmö Högskola calls itself Malmö University on their english pages. If this is illegal, then it's their problem. We reasonably need to follow their own translations... --OpenFuture (talk) 21:40, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It has been discussed before at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sweden/Archive 1 It's not a matter of inventing translation's, but of using the version used by the University Colleges themselves (what I have claimed is their PR departments' version) or the translations used by the Swedish National Agency for Higher Education (HSV). I fully support Grillo's comment, but unfortunately we have not reached consensus, because it seems that many editors who take an interest in specific University Colleges unfortunately don't seem to like the official version as given by HSV. I sincerely hope that no WP:COI has been involved in any editors' wish to "protect" the translation of Swedish University Colleges' names into English as "Universities", because it would be very unfortunate if Wikipedia was used as a vehicle to misrepresent the status of them. Tomas e (talk) 11:02, 13 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah HSV have a page with names too? Ah, yes, indeed: . Yeah, I see no problem with following that one. --OpenFuture (talk) 13:53, 13 April 2010 (UTC)


 * It is unfortunate that these institutions have chosen to refer to themselves as universities in English, when in reality they aren't. However, it's the name that's more commonly used in independent reliable English-language sources that should be the article's title. Malmö University has two references (HSV) using "Malmö University College". This is the name that should be used unless another form (such as "Malmö University") is demonstrably more common in other English-language sources.  (talk) 12:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, since there are official names for them given by the national agency of higher education, I believe it makes more sense to use these names than the names preferred by the university colleges themselves (or their PR departments, more likely). I don't like the fact that people might come from other countries to study at a university college which they think is a real university, just because the institutions themselves are more concerned with their publicity image than to be factually correct. This absolutely goes above any most common criteria. What is most commonly believed isn't neccesarily correct. /Grillo (talk) 11:05, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If no one objects I'll move the affected articles in a couple of days. /Grillo (talk) 18:23, 21 April 2010 (UTC)


 * In case it wasn't entirely clear, I was arguing that the HSV version is the more common name unless proven otherwise.  (talk) 18:32, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have now moved the ones that I could. The rest should be listed at WP:Requested moves. /Grillo (talk) 06:26, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! I absolutely agree on this one. A "högskola" is not equal to a "universitet" as defined by Swedish law, and Wikipedia should stick to the official HSV list rather than to university colleges' PR people. --18:16, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Anna Friberger Swedish author PROD
I just noticed that the stub on Swedish author Anna Friberger has been proposed for deletion. Deadline 25th April. Finding references for this author in English is not easy. I thought someone over here might care to take an interest.--Plad2 (talk) 21:08, 23 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think sources in English is the problem here. The existing article is really poorly written. Starting an article "Anna Friberger has worked for over 20 years" is just begging for a deletion request. The first sentence should tell who she is and what she does. The current text doesn't look like an encyclopedic entry. The problem is not the biographed person, but the unskilled creator of that article. --LA2 (talk) 22:27, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * References in any language should be sufficient... Anyway, she has no article on Swedish Wikipedia, yet. /Grillo (talk) 06:28, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Date of death of Bo Hansson
Please see Talk:Bo_Hansson. Thanks, BNutzer (talk) 02:19, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

On the History of Dala Horses
Swedish vowels are not used consistently in the article on Dala Horses for the names of people and villages. Some names, like Bergkarlas has been "englishified", while the correct name is Bergkarlås. Some parts of the article are repetitive and others may lead to confusion, such as "Today, Nusnäs is the centre of Dala horse production with the most famous being the Nils Olsson and Grannas Olsson workshops. The old-style horses are hand-carved and painted to replicate the style of the antique horses found in Swedish museums or held in private family collections.". While old-style horses are made, these are in a vast minority compared to the new-style and common dala horse, a fact that is not mentioned. There is also a reliable reference for the early production of dala horse that can be found here www.dalahorse.info, but it is in Swedish. May I rewrite portions of the article, and may references to material in Swedish be added? Roenbaeck (talk) 05:00, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The answers to those questions are yes, and yes - as long as the references otherwise satisfy WP:RS.  (talk) 05:15, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I have now reorganized and rewritten large parts of the article. Would someone who's native tongue is english please read the text and make corrections as necessary? Roenbaeck (talk) 20:30, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Carl Linnaeus assistance
Hello,

I am currently working on the Carl Linnaeus article to bring it to FA status (although GA will be the first goal). Many improvements have been made already but there is a lot to do still. Basically everything except the Biography section needs an overhaul.

Linnaeus is an important part of this wikiproject and I am wondering if there are anybody here who would like to assist me in bringing it to FA status with me (or just do some editing)? If you are, you're more than welcome to contact me on my talk page or Carl Linnaeus talk page.

Thanks, Esuzu  ( talk  •  contribs ) 12:30, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Collapsed sections
I don't quite see the point of having the collapsed sections on the main page. I would like to see at a glance what the page contains. If anything goes beyond what the page can hold, moving it to a subpage would be better. --Hegvald (talk) 10:48, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. --Skizziktalk 13:58, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Better? Best regards, Hayden120 (talk) 02:59, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Nobel Prize, request for opinions (Talk:Nobel Prize)
Hello,

The Nobel Prize, one of the most important articles of this project has a dispute which needs to be resolved. I would be happy if people could help by adding their opinions (support or oppose) to the Talk:Nobel Prize page. Thank you! Esuzu ( talk  •  contribs ) 18:06, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Tunnelgatan
I have created the Tunnelgatan article based on the Swedish wikipedia page on the topic. Can someone knowledgeable review the new article, and add sources if possible (my Swedish is not close to good enough to find sources) ? Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 04:23, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I've notified sv:Wikipedia:Projekt Stockholm about your request. Tomas e (talk) 13:35, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons
The WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons (UBLPs) aims to reduce the number of unreferenced biographical articles to under 30,000 by June 1, primarily by enabling WikiProjects to easily identify UBLP articles in their project's scope. There were over 52,000 unreferenced BLPs in January 2010 and this has been reduced to 35,715 as of May 1. A bot is now running daily to compile a list of all articles that are in both Category:All unreferenced BLPs and have been tagged by a WikiProject. Note that the bot does NOT place unreferenced tags or assign articles to projects - this has been done by others previously - it just compiles a list.

Your Project's list can be found at WikiProject Sweden/Unreferenced BLPs. Currently you have approximately 468 articles to be referenced. Other project lists can be found at User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates and User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects.

Your assistance in reviewing and referencing these articles is greatly appreciated. If you have any questions, please don't hestitate to ask either at WT:URBLP or at my talk page. Thanks, The-Pope (talk) 17:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I have informed the community on svwp. Maybe the community on fiwp should be informed as well? I don't know the language though. /Grillo (talk) 19:49, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * There is also a list at WikiProject_Sweden/Cleanup_listing, in chronological order, as part of the useful cleanup listing created by WolterBot. Unfortunately, it is based on dumps, so it is not updated very frequently. The reason why the date the unreferenced BLP template was added is interesting to know is that those biographies who have been tagged as the longest runs the largest risk of PRODding and deletion in the short to medium term. (I think there are actually none left from 2007 within WPSweden, but plenty from early 2008 and on.) Therefore, it would be good if those who want to "dig in" would target the oldest articles, unless they have a specific interest (atheletes, politicians, ...) in which case it might be more interesting to look at such articles. I suppose that between updates, different searches using Catscan can be of some help, for example like this. Tomas e (talk) 13:19, 7 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Tack, bra gjort! Over 200 done in just over a week is fantastic work - easily the most by a single project in the past week.  Well done to all who have helped! The-Pope (talk) 16:38, 17 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Just a reminder to everyone that we still have some 40 articles in the category (compared to 551 on 19 March and 91 on the "milestone date" 1 June) - it looks like many of the remaining are people in music and entertainment. Also, newly identified uBLPs are also added to the list from the stock of existing articles, so it's worthwhile to stop by now and then if you'd like to help. And then we of course have the issue of the "refimprove BLP" category of articles. This is where many previously unreferenced articles end up, when references are added for some, but not all, statements in the articles. Tomas e (talk) 08:22, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

The "Royal" Swedish Navy
Now and then there are editors that insist on prefixing "Royal" to the Swedish Navy, which is not part of its official name (Marinen) or that of the Fleet (Flottan), and I've seen some new edits of this type over the last days. Curiously, this prefixing is almost never seen for any of the other services, despite them all being "on the same level", which by the way means no "independent" status since the creation of the Swedish Armed Forces as a single governmental agency in the 1990s. I suppose that some editor think (or hope?) there somehow exists some genuinely royal and independent "Kungliga Flottan" despite the Fleet being a part of the Navy with is a part of the Armed Forces, which is the only of these organisation that is actually immediately subordinate to the government. The term "Royal Swedish Navy" can be correct and definitely tolerated in article text referring exclusively to historical conditions - primarily pre-20th century, but possibly pre-1974 when most of the Kungl. prefixes were removed. However, I think that for consistency, it is time that we remove the "Royal" part from all article names and category names related to the Swedish Navy. I'd like to hear the opinion here (with a crossposting to WPMilHist's Nordic task force) before moving ahead, to minimise the risk of edit-warring. By the way, this does not imply any change the name of the ships of the Swedish Navy, since "HMS" (with its royal connection) actually is the official designation. The articles that would be renamed as part of this would be:
 * List of battleships of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * List of coastal defence ships of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * List of corvettes of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * List of cruisers of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * List of destroyers of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * List of gunboats of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * List of mine warfare vessels of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * List of monitors of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * List of ships of the line of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * List of submarines of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * List of torpedo boats of the Royal Swedish Navy

And the categories:
 * Category:Royal Swedish Navy
 * Category:Coastal defence ships of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * Category:Corvettes of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * Category:Cruisers of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * Category:Destroyers of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * Category:Halland class destroyers of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * Category:Minehunters of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * Category:Mine warfare vessels of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * Category:Monitors of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * Category:Patrol vessels of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * Category:Royal Swedish Navy lists
 * Category:Royal Swedish Navy ship names
 * Category:Ships of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * Category:Submarines of the Royal Swedish Navy
 * Category:Tre Kronor class cruisers of the Royal Swedish Navy

Actually, there is a need for some cleanup and consolidation of these categories, as there is often a category "...of Sweden" as well as a "....of the Royal Swedish Navy", despite being about categories of warships. So in many cases the category should probably be deleted as redundant rather than renamed. Any thoughts or objections or can I just go ahead? Tomas e (talk) 18:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I've come here from your message at the MILHIST Nordic Task Force, but you will have much better response as well as understanding if you asked WP:SHIPS since that project is the one responsible for the ship and navy article naming plus all the categories you have mentioned. -MBK004 19:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip, I have cross-posted to WPShips, since they may also be interested. However, as to your other comment I must admit to being unaware of the existence of any guideline that would point out one project as more responsible for naming than another when the subject of an article fall under the interest of several projects. Does this exist somewhere? Or did I misunderstand? Tomas e (talk) 21:53, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * What I meant was that the current category structure and naming issues that you've called into question was developed and implemented based upon discussion at WP:SHIPS not MILHIST. -MBK004 02:06, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

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