Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tampa Bay/Archive 1

Meetup/Miami 2.
The meetup in Miami was originally planned for August/September, but we'll probably be having it around January. Feel free to participate in the planning (exact date/place not decided upon) if you're interested. · AndonicO Talk 23:15, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Next Florida Meetup
Please feel free to discuss the next Florida meetup location(s) here.  - Jameson L. Tai  talk ♦ contribs  22:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

baseball in Tampa Bay article?
There's an ongoing discussion on the Tampa Bay Rays talk page about splitting off a "Baseball in Tampa Bay" article. I think it's a great idea, but I want to finish one big project before starting another one. If anybody wants to write the baseball article, I could point you to some resources online and in your local (Tampa) library... Zeng8r (talk) 19:57, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've created a rough draft of the proposed new article: Baseball in Tampa Bay. Any assistance in getting it up to standards would be greatly appreciated.  Sliver7 (talk) 15:31, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 22:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Is this group still active??
I've been working on Tampa-related stuff on my own, but it'd be nice to know that others are on this project as well... --Zeng8r 14:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC) Thanks, Moreau36! Zeng8r 02:28, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem, but I'm still working on Tampa-related articles. I'm creating branch pages now. My next step is to finish the neighborhood section. Your help is greatly apprieciated (sp.) Thanks! --Moreau36 23:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Group Activation
I dont know if it is still active, but it would be nice if it is not that we can get it going again. I just rejoined wiki after viewing a site that is incorrect, so I could fix it. --LJ 15:27, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ireactivated the group since I have more time on my hands. --Moreau36 23:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Seminole Heights
I'm on board for updating and plugging in any info regarding the Seminole Heights area of Tampa. I've been over hauling the Seminole Heights Tampa page when I have time.--Tommycane 10:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Articles done

 * Tampa Fire Department, expand if desired
 * Flag of Tampa
 * Tampa City Council, expand if desired (if anyone can get more information about the Council's history, please feel free to create History of Tampa City Council, just like List of mayors of Tampa, Florida. --Moreau36 23:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You don't mean a list of all the council members, do you? That would be messy, imo. But I'm actually reading a book on Tampa politics (the only one that covers the 20th century, to my knowledge) so I could add a few pertinent details later on this week. Zeng8r 23:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Not necessary a list, just a history of the city council, the makeup, and the important events that occurred throughout the history. --Moreau36 23:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I just created a stub for TBARTA which will certainly need to be expanded as the new agency develops. -- JeffBillman 19:33, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * A while ago, I did a lot of work on articles Downtown Tampa, Channelside, among others. I feel these twe areas are very important because they are the meat of the city. Both are rapidly expanding from strictly CBD's to multi-function 24-hour neighborhoods. The article on SoHo was created by me as well, feel free to add on. Blaze33541 (talk) 02:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Manatee and Pinellas counties
Question; Why are articles on subjects ib Manatee and Pinellas counties being put in this project? Charles Roser was added today. It pertains only to St. Petersburg and Anna Maria. There are other articles in St. Pete and Pinellas Park. the main St. Pete article is not included. It understand the project is a city project, not a regional one. If it's a regional one, then it should be Tampa Bay or some such, which raises the question stated above as to what is included. On a side note the Orlampa thing probably should be SaintPeteOrlampatona or the I-4 Corridor. clariosophic (talk) 20:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC) correction clariosophic (talk) 20:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Ybor City article - input requested
There's a lot of heated discussion concerning the Ybor City article, with debates about content, style, mergers, etc. doing on at the same time. There has been some input from editors knowledgeable about Tampa, but not enough (imo), and I've been the only wikiproject Tampa member involved at all. Your 2 cents (or maybe even a whole quarter) is requested, please... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeng8r (talk • contribs) 17:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC) A partially-updated new Ybor City section has been posted. Local input would be much appreciated!... Zeng8r (talk) 21:26, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Tampa wikiproject userbox
I've wondered why this project didn't have a regular-sized userbox, so I went ahead and made one: User:Zeng8r/tampawikimember. However, I dunno how to turn it into a template and move it out of my namespace (which would look much cleaner imo). Anybody want to give it a shot? Also, I tried to make a new category for members of the project - Category:WikiProject Tampa members - but may not have been successful since nobody else's name shows up. Also also, I messed up the project page whilst trying to insert both a link to the new userbox and examples of both boxes. Any fixin' would be appreciated... Zeng8r (talk) 00:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Tampa vs Tampa Bay Area
OK, so the project's "WikiProject Tampa", which, as a St. Pete resident, leads me to believe that it's strictly about topics on the east side of the Bay. However, as I'm reading, it says "and surrounding areas." That makes me conclude that it's Temple Terrace, Carrollwood, Town 'n Country, Brandon, Riverview, etc. But then I find the template for this project on the Rays article. Seeing as that's in St. Pete, and not Tampa, does this project include the entire Bay Area? If so, why is this project so narrow in its title? Can't it be changed to "WikiProject Tampa Bay", like DFW has WP:WikiProject Dallas-Fort Worth, and the other Bay Area has WP:WikiProject San Francisco Bay Area? Calling it just "WP Tampa" misrepresents the area and makes it seem to anyone not familiar with the area as cities like St. Pete and Clearwater (two of the largest cities in the state, with St. Pete cracking the Top 80 in the country) are nothing more than glorified suburbs of Tampa. However subtle, things like this is why St. Pete isn't recognized as its own city in this country. Can we change the name to "WikiProject Tampa Bay" to include everyone, especially if the project is supposed to include everyone to begin with? If we can, I'll join in a heartbeat! EaglesFanInTampa 13:13, 28 March 2008 (UTC) It's been a few weeks and I haven't gotten a single response to my inquiry, which I find odd. Either that means that no one cares or no one works on this project. In either case, that means no one would mind if I was being bold and changed the project name myself. It's completely biased to exclude the Bay Area as a whole from the name while saying it "aims to coordinate improvment (sic) efforts on articles related to Tampa, Florida and the surrounding area." So, I plan on correcting that issue by the end of the week. Any objections? EaglesFanInTampa 15:33, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Since there isn't a wikiproject for St. Pete or anywhere else around here (right?), I say go for it. Maybe it would breathe some life into a project that's been dead in the water for months... Zeng8r (talk) 21:38, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I've gotten one "go for it" and no other pushback, so let's get this show on the road. I'm gonna do what I can to revamp this, because it needs something to (as Zeng8r said) "breathe some life" back into it.  Tell me what you think of the changes! EaglesFanInTampa 12:30, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

May I...?
May I put my name under the members section? I live in Wesley Chapel and I am extensively involved in New Tampa affairs as well. I have added information to the Wesley Chapel and some area schools before but now I am a member and looking for constructive feedback to any of my edits to Tampa area related info. Thanks! I am the Tape! (talk)Tapeisback —Preceding undated comment was added at 17:50, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Tampa Bay Lightning
Hello to everybody in this project. The WikiProject Ice Hockey is currently looking for editors to help update team articles about the 2008-09 NHL season. If you are interested in the NHL, please consider helping us keep these article current. To sign up, go to this page and add your name beside the team or teams you wish to particpate in. For a guide to expanding the article, see 2007-08 Pittsburgh Penguins season which is currently listed as a Good Article. If you have any questions, feel free to ask at WT:HOCKEY or at my talk page. Hope to here back from you,  Grsz  Review!  16:58, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Neighborhoods of Tampa almost complete
Finally, with a few more articles to create, the Tampa neighborhood scope of the project is nearly complete. If anyone has anything to add to the neighborhood articles, please feel free with adding citations a plus. I may work on the St. Pete side when more information is available. Thanks. --Moreau36 (talk) 22:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Question for the project
I am not a member of this Project, but this is of direct importance to this group, so I decided to raise this for discussion here first. Right now, there are articles for Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay Area, and Florida Suncoast, which seems to cover a whole lot of overlap. The Tampa Bay article and the Tampa Bay Area articles really need to be merged, and it's worth considering reworking the Florida Suncoast article to cover the same area as the Tampa Bay Area article. IOW, delete Collier, Lee, and Charlotte Counties, possibly Sarasota and Manatee counties as well (they are already covered by the Southwest Florida article, and I don't think the "Suncoast" moniker is used much south of Sarasota), and add Hernando and Pasco counties. Any thoughts? I'll wait a couple of days, and if I don't hear anything, I'll take it to the Florida WP. Horologium t-c 14:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't realize all those articles existed. I say go for the merge - as long as information unique to each entry is retained, of course. Zeng8r (talk) 17:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd say merge, but there are subtle differences. The "Tampa Bay Area" means the core Tampa Bay MSA, plus other surrounding areas. These include Sarasota/Bradenton, and outlying counties such as Hardee County. When referring to Tampa Bay, one is speaking of the MSA (Hillsborough, Pinellas, Pasco and Hernando counties) only. Although I'm not sure the term "Tampa Bay Area" is notable enough to deserve a seperate article, since that use is VERY colloquial. The only field I see it carrying any weight is for news viewing areas.Blaze33541 (talk) 04:42, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * As the articles are now written, the Tampa Bay Area article is far superior to the Tampa Bay article. The latter is filled with (unsourced) conflated charts and data encompassing three separate MSA's—Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater; Lakeland; and Sarasota-Bradenton-Venice. Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater is not part of a CMSA, which means that the outlying areas should not be included in the article. Sarasota-Bradenton-Venice is part of a CMSA with Punta Gorda, Lakeland is its own PMSA, and Hardee County is a μSA (Wauchula, FL μSA). The Tampa Bay article even has mentions of Red Sox games played in Fort Myers, which is a bit extreme. My suggestion would be to thin out the extraneous information from the Tampa Bay Area article, and use that as the primary information for wherever the article ends up. There doesn't appear to be much useful information in the Tampa Bay article. FWIW, Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL MSA, the government's formal name for the census area, is a redirect to Tampa Bay Area, which reinforces my view that the article should be limited to the four-county region.
 * Regarding the ACNielsen and Arbitron TV and radio market definitions (which don't match, of course), Arbitron considers the Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater radio market to be the same four counties as the government's definition, but Nielsen includes Citrus, Polk, Hardee, Highlands, Manatee and Sarasota counties in the Tampa TV market. The Nielsen markets may be useful for viewing statistics, but they often make odd assumptions as to which market a county is allocated. Ocala is part of the Orlando market, but all of the stations broadcasting from Gainesville use the phrase "Gainesville-Ocala" or a variation in their advertising, and the two network stations have news bureaus in both cities. Only the NBC and Fox stations from Tampa are available on cable systems in Sebring, in Highlands County; the other networks are stations from Orlando and Fort Myers). Horologium t-c 19:58, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I really, really dislike the Wikipedia trend of using Census Bureau definitions as the sole source and arbiter of US geographic definitions, at the expense of all other sources. Yes the Tampa-St. Pete-Clearwater MSA consists only of Hernando, Hillsborough, Pasco, and Pinellas.  But the State of Florida clearly intends Citrus, Manatee, and Sarasota to be included in the Tampa Bay Area, as evident by Senate Bill 506 (which started TBARTA).  A strong case can also be made for Polk County, particularly the municipalities and communities between Plant City and Lakeland.  And of course there is the (as yet) mythical Orlampa, which suggests at the very least that the Tampa Bay Area extends beyond the MSA boundaries.  (Or soon will, if not now.) -- JeffBillman (talk) 22:21, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The OMB definitions (it's OMB that defines the boundaries, not the Census Bureau) have the advantage of being a consistent measurement metric; the one-off citations (such as the Florida bill authorizing TBARTA) are not useful for definitions outside their one particular focus. If the article is to include areas outside the OMB definition, the redirect for the MSA is going to need to be turned into a full article, which will increase the overlap and duplication even more than now. Polk County (because of its size and location) is part of a tug-of-war between Tampa, Orlando and Florida Heartland over which area (if any) it should be included; by leaving it out of the discussions of each area (or briefly mentioning is, as is done in Greater Orlando is probably best. Horologium t-c 22:57, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Bayside West Neighborhood is missing from the Tampa Neighborhoods. 33611, Boundaries North - Fair Oaks, South - Gandy, West - Tampa Bay, East - Manhattan. Bayside West Neighborhood Association (BWNA) 4851 Gandy Boulevard, B8-04, Tampa, FL 33611 (Nativefl (talk) 23:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC))
 * Done. --23:47, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

GayBor page created
I just created a page for GaYbor last night after getting home from there no less. It was long overdue, feel free to elaborate on it, thanks! Blaze33541 (talk) 10:30, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

A consideration for cross project consolidation of talk page templates
I have started a conversation here about the possibility of combining some of the United States related WikiProject Banners into WikiProject United States. If you have any comments, questions or suggestions please take a moment and let me know. --Kumioko (talk) 20:25, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

US Collaboration reactivated & Portal:United States starting next
Casliber recently posted a suggestion on the talk page for WikiProject United States about getting the US Wikipedians Collaboration page going again in an effort to build up articles for GA through FA class. See U.S. Wikipedians' notice board/USCOTM. After several days of work from him the page is up and ready for action. A few candidates have already been added for you to vote on or you can submit one using the directions provided. If you are looking for inspiration here is a link to the most commonly viewed articles currently under the scope of Wikiproject United States. There are tons of good articles in the various US related projects as well so feel free to submit any article relating to US topics (not just those under the scope of WPUS). This noticeboard is intended for ‘’’All’’’ editors working on US subjects, not just those under WPUS.

The next item I intend to start updating is Portal:United States if anyone is interested in helping. Again this is not specific to WPUS and any help would be greatly appreciated to maximize visibility of US topics. The foundation has already been established its just a matter of updating the content with some new images, biographies and articles. Please let leave a comment on the Portals talk page or let me know if you have any questions or ideas. --Kumioko (talk) 19:29, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Florida Chapter? Tampa Bay chapter?
Do we have enough active wikipedians in Florida to form a chapter? I've created an entry for Florida at the Wikimedia United States Chapters Council page. If a state-wide chapter will be too unwieldy, perhaps chapters based on the larger cities could be formed (i.e., South Florida, central Florida, northern Florida). -- Donald Albury 21:05, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, there hasn't been nearly enough Tampa Bay-based editor activity lately (or over the past couple of years) to justify a local chapter, imo. A state-wide chapter seems more likely. Zeng8r (talk) 21:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I was afraid of that, but had to ask. Let's see if a state-wide chapter gets any traction. -- Donald Albury 02:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion to add WikiProjects Florida and Tampa Bay to the supported projects list of WikiProject United States
It has been suggested that this project and its parent project of WikiProject Florida may be inactive or semi active and it might be beneficial to add them to the supported projects list of WikiProject United States. After reviewing the project page and the talk page it seems as though there have not been many edits to the main page or any discussions in several months. Before taking any action though I would like to hear from the members of the project to get their comments. --Kumioko (talk) 00:00, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Since theres been no comment on this discussion in 11 days I am going to go ahead and add it to the supported projects list of WPUS. --Kumioko (talk) 14:11, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

New articles
I started some articles recently and assistance is most welcome in correcting my errors and improving the content. Candleabracadabra (talk) 20:26, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * McKay Bay, including the greenway, park and preserve. An article on the refuse burning power plant would also be a welcome addition.
 * Florida Progress Trail, currently a trail-to-nowhere planned to run along US 19 in Progress Energy's right of way.
 * Clearwater East West Trail, an east west multi-use trail. Hadn't even heard of it, but it seems like a pretty big deal...
 * Lake Rogers Park, a park around a namesake lake in Odessa, Florida.
 * Wat Mongkolratanaram, Tampa

WikiProject United States - 50,000 Challenge
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Archived some threads
I've archived some inactive threads to subsections which were notifications about discussions that have since been closed. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:40, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
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