Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Telecommunications/Archive 3

Debate on DVB-H article name change
There may be a problem (at least for me!) in the name change of the article DVB-H, which has been recently moved to DVB-H and evolution to DVB-SH, by User:Steppu75, which, instead of discussing about this in the talk page, insists in renaming the article. He moved it first to DVB-H/SH, which I moved back to DVB-H after leaving a message in the talk page. Then, he came back and changed to DVB-H and evolution to DVB-SH. Now, I'd like to have the opinion of the TC project members, before beginning a "move" war. --Cantalamessa (talk) 21:15, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Yellow Pages
Would someone with knowledge of business directories in more than one country care to take a look at Yellow Pages? I've made a few suggestions on its talk page, but don't feel competent to finish the work off myself. Certes (talk) 13:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

There also seems to be a difference of opinions between IP editors at both Yellow Pages and yellowpages.com as to the notability or relevance of Bobby Kalili (or Khalili), C. Ronald Oister and others. I don't think it would be helpful for me to interfere, but perhaps someone more knowledgeable should. Certes (talk) 13:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Comparison_of_CECB_units
Is this article's subject within the scope of this wikiproject? (I looked for a wikiproject tag on related articles and found yours on Talk:Digital television) I've looked at it after an issue was mentioned on AN/I and I think an outside opinion is necessary. —Random832 14:34, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Well why not? I think you are free to add our wikiproject tag there. Perhaps you also might find someone at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronics that can assist. I did not find the AN/I issue you mentioned. Mange01 (talk) 12:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Survey: bit/s/Hz, (bit/s)/Hz or bit·s−1·Hz−1 as Spectral efficiency unit?
Please vote at Talk:Eb/N0 on which unit that should be used at Wikipedia for measuring Spectral efficiency. For background, see the discussion at Talk:Spectral_efficiency and at Talk:Eb/N0. Mange01 (talk) 07:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Prodding of cellphones
I have noticed an admin is going thru the cell-phones, prodding them more or less systematically, with the reason "Non-notable commercial product. Wikipedia is not a Sony/Ericsson catalog. ", or "Non-notable commercial product. Wikipedia is not a Lucky Goldstar catalog." and so one. Does you at this project have an opinion on this? Should Wikipedia have articles on the individual cell-phone, or not? Personally, I think it should, but I will take a wiki-break now, also, I think it should be more of a project-related thing to deprod this phones (and advocate for them in the AfD you get in that case). Any opinions? Greswik 17:27, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that not every phone needs its own article, after all there is only so much one can write about say a Nokia 1100 and several of these phones can be put in one article as with Nokia 68xx series Towel401 (talk) 12:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Survey: Split the SONET article into separate SONET and SDH articles, or rename it to SONET/SDH?
Plase vote at Talk:Synchronous_optical_networking Mange01 (talk) 19:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Survey: Merge of the Baud rate/Baud, Symbol rate, Symbol (data) and Modulation rate?
Please vote at Talk:Symbol rate. Mange01 (talk) 08:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Protocols pages re-writes
Hi - I'm willing to have a go at re-writing/re-organising a couple of the protocols pages. I'd prefer if someone were willing to review the articles prior to submission, but not being familiar with the way things are around here I'm willing to go with the flow? How are things reviewed around here within this project? The main one I wanted to start with was the page on V5 and perhaps then to look at adding an NMDS page (strangely theres a BT Home Highway page which as I understand it is a specific implementation of NMDS) and then go on from there Beardybloke (talk) 16:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Rename proposal for the lists of basic topics
This project's subject has a page in the set of Lists of basic topics.

See the proposal at the Village pump to change the names of all those pages.

The Transhumanist 10:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion for new article: Samsung Telecommunications
I'm an employee of Samsung Telecommunication business and I'm here to improve and expand information on Samsung-related pages. There is no information about Samsung Telecommunications in Wikipedia while this company is the second biggest manufacturer of mobile handsets. Therefore, this article would contribute to developing content of WikiProject Telecommunications. I understand the rules of Wikipedia and possible COI issues,that's why I'm asking wikipedians to help in creation of relevant article with NPOV. I'm ready to provide any kind of information which could be relevant for this article. Here is a draft of article: user: lyubmarin/Samsung Telecommunications Lyubmarin (talk) 05:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

A discussion
An important discussion on " Should WikiProjects get prior approval of other WikiProjects (Descendant or Related or any ) to tag articles that overlaps their scope ?  " is open here . We welcome you to participate and give your valuable opinions. --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) -, member of WikiProject Council. 14:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

SS7 links
Hi - theres been a bit of an ongoing edit war in the SS7 page. I'd appreciate it if people could have a look at the Talk page and add their thoughts to the addition or otherwise of this link? See Talk:Signaling System 7 Beardybloke (talk) 00:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Vote: Four or five layers in the TCP/IP model template.
Give your vote here: Should the TCP/IP model template have four or five layers? And what is the name of the bottom layer in case of four layers? Mange01 (talk) 13:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

I feel like those of us with a history in OSI models should have a separate page about viewing the Internet from the OSI model. imho From a straight TCP/IP vision the layers are pretty straight forward. Apps above faclilities below and IP is the glue. Every other model brings in adaptations not the pure Internet imho. carl.ford@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.28.24 (talk) 13:59, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Articles flagged for cleanup
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Article assessment?
I noticed that the template does not support article assessment. Is this intentional, or is this an oversight? 69.140.152.55 (talk) 16:11, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * An oversight - at least from my point of view. Feel free to improve it. Mange01 (talk) 20:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Discussion on naming - Crystal Palace transmitter or Crystal Palace transmitting station
A discussion has opened on the more appropriate naming of articles in Category:Transmitter sites in the United Kingdom. The discussion has been moved to Category talk:Transmitter sites in the United Kingdom. The essence of the discussion, is that: a) the term Crystal Palace transmitter or Foo transmitter is used more commonly than Crystal Palace transmitting station or Foo transmitting station and so fits with the advice of Name. b) the term Crystal Palace transmitting station or Foo transmitting station is more technically accurate as the term Transmitter has a specific use which does not and should not be applied to the station as a whole. As this is a technical term, the naming policy does not apply.

The relevant wording of the advice from the Naming conventions is:

'''Generally, article naming should prefer what the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature.

'''This is justified by the following principle:
 * 'The names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors, and for a general audience over specialists''.

Wikipedia determines the recognizability of a name by seeing what verifiable reliable sources in English call the subject.

Reliable sources use both transmitter and transmitting station.

Input to the discussion is sought.  SilkTork  *YES! 16:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Template image?
These are available images that perhaps can be used in the WP:TEL templates: Which do you prefer? Mange01 (talk) 10:56, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No response for over a month! Then I suggest that we use the following for the group templates:

Okay? Mange01 (talk) 15:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Hm, I'd have commented earlier if I knew there were a proposal in the works to change the image! My $0.02 is this: I think this project should avoid using a telephone pic for the image as it typecasts the purpose of the project as restricted to voice communications, or maybe voice and data, when if I understand correctly, this project is about all forms of long-distance communications technology (though especially modern techniques). Thus, my suggestion would be ... more along the lines of an image of a D-sub or RJ-45 connector, or maybe a stylized Telegraph key with dots and dashes emanating from it. &mdash;/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 15:00, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I would like to put back the original userbox, as it has been damaging my userpage by adding a blue background and spilling out of my enclosing table. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I think I have solved the typographical problems now.
 * Regarding the choice of image, I suggest a smartphone, because it would be related to a large portion of the telecom wiki articles, for example wireless communication, telecommunication networks, multimedia services, Internet access, etc. It would be nice if the image could illustrate mobile-TV as well. A smartphone would indicate that telecom is not only about physical layer issues (electronics), and not only a historical term. Today's telecom business are working on a wide spectrum of applications and topical technologies. Mange01 (talk) 17:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)