Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/24 task force

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parodies
Are the parodies like 24 Minutes and The Snuke of 24 also considered in this wikiproject? -- Gman 124 talk 00:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * NO they are not related at all to this project or show. They would fall under the show their parodies occured on. --DJS24 21:34, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

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WP:NOT#PLOT
Apologies for the notice, but this is being posted to every WikiProject to avoid accusations of systemic bias. Hiding T 13:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Is James L. Hanson, Jr. a character in 24?
Would someone at this project please take a look at this article and determine whether its bogus or just pooly written? Thanks. --Tesscass (talk) 00:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look at it. Best, Steve Crossin   Talk/Help us mediate! 00:37, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Should be deleted soon. Thanks for pointing it out :) Steve Crossin   Talk/Help us mediate! 01:01, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I may be missing this
I may be missing it but is there still an IRC channel where we can talk to each other? Lan Di (talk) 00:33, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there is. It's #Wikiproject_24. Best, Steve Crossin   Talk/Help us mediate! 00:38, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Does your WikiProject care about talk pages of redirects?
Does your project care about what happens to the talk pages of articles that have been replaced with redirects? If so, please provide your input at User:Mikaey/Request for Input/ListasBot 3. Thanks, Matt (talk) 01:27, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Please, fix WikiProject 24/Nav ?
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I have no edit rights, but please change this line of code from &emsp;Bot log to &emsp;Bot log as we need to correctly direct that link to our bot,  Version 1.0 Editorial Team/24 articles by quality log, instead of xbox's bot. thanks Prapsnot (talk) 19:44, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
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CTU article
I am looking for an article specifically about CTU, its organisation and relation to other agencies in the show. I'm sure there used to be a separate article for CTU but it appears it no longer exists, can someone shed some light on this? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.117.31.4 (talk) 16:53, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's the old article. Gary King  ( talk ) 18:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks 193.117.31.4 (talk) 09:59, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement
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Request for comment on Biographies of living people
Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:

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Ikip 02:17, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Request for comment on Biographies of living people
Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:

Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, nearly all wikiproject topics will be effected.

The two opposing positions which have the most support is:
 * 1) supports the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, User:Jehochman
 * 2) opposes the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, except in limited circumstances, User:Collect

Comments are welcome. Keep in mind that by default, editor's comments are hidden. Simply press edit next to the section to add your comment.

Please keep in mind that at this point, it seems that editors support deleting unreferenced BLP articles if they are not sourced, so your project may want to source these articles as soon as possible. See the next, message, which may help.

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If you are interested in moving unreferenced blp articles to a special "incubation page", contact me, User talk:Ikip
 * Moving unreferenced blp articles to a special "incubation pages"

If you are interested in watchlisting all of the unreferenced articles once you install Cleanup_listings, contact me, User talk:Ikip
 * Watchlisting all unreferenced articles

Ikip 02:23, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Updates to TV#MOS
I'm not sure how many people monitor WP:MOSTV or even WP:TV (the basic WikiProject for all of us), but we've been trying to get some feedback on additions to the TV Manual of Style. It largely has to do with the inclusion of "Overview" tables at the start of the page, the order in which season lists are presented (currently, there is no concrete order), and what is considered too much info for DVDs (i.e. should we be placing every detail about the box set in the article, from each interview to the aspect ratio, or should be keep it more generalized). Please see discussion at WT:MOSTV. Thank you.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  22:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

24 articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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Consistency of season pages
If any of you still follow this project, you may know that I have begun a project to make the season specific pages more consistent. 24 (season 1), 24 (season 2) and 24 (season 3) were already fairly similar so I made them more similar. One might consider it important for these articles to be similar because season 1, 2 and 3 are often grouped together and thought of as one story arc.

The other pages have more issues so I think I should ask for other people's opinions before I change them. Connor Behan (talk) 05:25, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * 24 (season 4) has plot details in the character section unlike the other season pages. I assume these should be deleted or moved into a section that deals with the plot.
 * 24 (season 4) also has real life information about the effect that the torture portrayal had on the public. Some of this is already in the main 24 article. Would it be appropriate to move this into a "production section" since it affected the way the show was produced?
 * 24 (season 5) has episode specific information in the "reception" section and the "characters" section. This mostly deals with the premiere and can be found in Day_5:_7:00_a.m._–_8:00_a.m. so I think it should be deleted.
 * 24 (season 5) also has a list of award wins and nominations in that section. However, like all season pages, it also lists this information at the beginning of the article. I am tempted to delete the second mention of it unless someone thinks that all articles should instead list awards in a "reception" section.
 * 24 (season 5) and 24 (season 6) list the subplots with episode numbers beside them. I think it should be written in prose instead. After all, the season pages all have episode descriptions anyway. If people think this should be kept, I'd like to add such formatting to 24 (season 4) as well since 4, 5 and 6 again form a "trilogy" in the minds of some viewers.
 * 24 (season 7) lists the producers of various episodes. This information is not in any other season page and I think it qualifies as trivia to be deleted.
 * 24 (season 7) also has a section on "trailers". Every 24 season I can remember has had a trailer but no other season page considers it notable enough to summarize. I propose deleting this too.


 * Hi Connor. I would advise against deleting massive chunks of text where possible. The general layout of a 24 season article I see is: Lead section, season overview (titled synopsis), cast, production, reception, references. It might be better to model the structure off the main 24 article, but I'd advise leaving it in if possible.. Steven   Zhang  Get involved in DR! 14:54, 11 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. 24 (season 5) is the only one with a reception section while 24 (season 7) and maybe 24 (season 4) are the only ones with a production section. I will try to make sure all 24 season pages have these sections. That way, I will be able to keep the information about torture portrayal in season 4, the praise for the season 5 premiere and the description of the season 7 trailer. Do you think it's okay to describe trailers in the production section? And do you think it's okay to keep award nominations in the reception section and avoid duplicating them in the lead? Having said this, there are still two things I would like to delete: the list that keeps track of how many episodes a certain producer worked on and the lines that "package subplots into episode ranges". I don't think these are very encyclopedic. Connor Behan (talk) 23:57, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Kim's age
In Kim's article it states that she was born in 1987. As the First Season started in 2001 that would make her 14 at oldest. Surely this can't be right, she looks and acts likes someone in the last year of high school? Cls14 (talk) 10:47, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * One cannot assume that the first season takes place in the year that it aired, see . The one thing that is known for sure is that Kim was sixteen during Day 1. If you believe the 24 novel cited in Kim's article then this would make 2003 the year of the first season - but this is less canon than the show. Connor Behan (talk) 17:13, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Series overview tables
Please come to Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television to discuss the implementation of these tables in television articles, from main articles to List of Episode pages.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  19:25, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet for Wikiproject 24 at Wikimania 2014
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WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
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A new newsletter directory is out!
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Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
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Turn this WikiProject into a Taskforce?
I invite editors to join the discussion at WP:WikiProject Television to convert many inactive WikiProjects into taskforces, including this one. – sgeureka t•c 12:51, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Closing inactive task forces
I invite editors to join the discussion at WP:WikiProject Television to close inactive task forces, including this one. Gonnym (talk) 12:07, 10 July 2021 (UTC)