Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Holby task force/Archive 1

WikiProject BBC
...is also tagging the Holby articles(' talk pages) – perhaps this project could be a child thereof? DBD 17:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I thought I'd replied to this long ago, but evidently not! Having cast a cursory glance at the BBC WP, it seems to be the case that they don't actually have any child projects as such, though have integrated the BBC Comedy WP as a task force. I'm not entirely certain then, how this WP would or could slot into their set-up, though I'd have no opposition to becoming a child project thereof. Frickative 03:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Jospeh Byrne GAN: On Hold
Nehrams2020 (talk) 21:17, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Article cut down
In the past week, I redirected all of the HolbyBlue character articles to the main character list, then per the only single response on the talk page, redirected that itself to a condensed list, integrated into the main HolbyBlue article. My reasoning for such can be found on the relevant talk page, however in brief, it stands that many of the articles which fall under this WikiProject are written in an unencyclopedic, crufty, in-universe, unreferenced fashion, with a number of them failing basic notability policy. I'm certainly guilty of contributing to this to a large extent - when I first began editing Holby articles around ten months ago, I was responsible for creating a number of character articles with every one of the aforementioned attributes, several of which remain to date stubs barely expanded since creation.

However, being somewhat more familiar with Wiki policy and guidelines now (at least compared to my complete ignorance ten months ago!) I'm going to propose a bit of an overhaul of the WikiProject and the articles which fall within its scope. We're down to around 85 articles at the moment, from presumably just over 100 prior to replacing the HolbyBlue character articles with redirects. I strongly believe focus at present should be on reducing this number yet further, and then improving the articles which remain. A present, three of the articles within the project's scope have attained Good Article status, and with a bit of editing and re-jigging, I've a couple more in mind to nominate in the near future. I definitely think quality over quantity is something we should be striving for.

As such, ideally what I'd like to do is redirect the following articles into the relevant character lists. The ones I'm suggesting I believe to be non-notable, with nothing in the way of reliable, second party references available. Some of them are characters that haven't been around long - and so allowing for change of circumstance may be deserving of an article in the future - but at the moment simply aren't. The list in full:


 * Adam Trueman
 * Claire Guildford
 * Dan Clifford
 * Diane Lloyd (fictional character)
 * Dixie Dixon
 * Finlay "Fin" Newton
 * Greg Fallon
 * Guppy Sandhu
 * Jasmine Hopkins
 * Jeff Collier
 * Kelsey Phillips
 * Luke Warren
 * Nadia Talianos
 * Nathan Spencer
 * Nick Jordan
 * Original cast of Casualty
 * Original cast of Holby City
 * Paul "Woody" Joyner
 * Ruth Winters
 * Selena Donovan
 * Simon Kaminski
 * Terence T.C. Cockleton
 * Thandie Abebe
 * Theo "Stitch" Lambert
 * Toby De Silva

While I may have missed a few off in scanning the master list, if I've counted right, that's 25 articles listed here, of which I believe I began 10. Faintly embarrassing in retrospect, but then at least I'd like to rectify that now! Most of the pages under the scope of this project see very little editing or input as is, so if there's no immediate opposition, I'll get working on this tomorrow. And of course any changes made will be fully reversible, should any conflict arise :)

As I say, I think the main efforts of this project should be concentrated on improving the articles we have with the potential to become Good or even A class, rather than maintaining dozens and dozens on unencylcopedic stubs. On that note, this has become quite a long post, and I think I've got across everything I wanted to say, so I'll leave it at that! Frickative 03:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

WP:FICT has been revised
WP:FICT, the notability guideline for elements within a work of fiction (characters, places, elements, etc) has a new proposal/revision that is now live Everyone is encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page. Ned Scott 22:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

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Sam Strachan
Just to let you know, I've passed Sam Strachan as a Good Article. Well done! - weebiloobil (talk) 17:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

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