Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Clash

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Tours and appearences
See: WikiProject The Clash/List of related articles

Participation
Pjoef asked me to join. I've been keeping an eye on The Clash and Joe Strummer pages for some time. I'm no great aficianado but I knew Joe in the 70's and made badges for the band at Better Badges, shot video of the Mescaleros in 2002. I'm a bit kludgy with the wikification but I'm a great proofreader. Where are we?Wwwhatsup (talk) 05:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

The Only Band That Matters
From The Clash Talk Archive #1 Wasn't this their record-company authored advertising slogan? Shouldn't there be some distance between the tone of the encyclopedia article and the band's publicity material? --BTfromLA 06:42, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, wherever it came from it has caught on, and it is a phrase associated with them. Sort of like Michael Jackson dubbing himself the King of Pop. -R. fiend 04:04, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The actual slogan was "The Only English Band That Matters". The earliest I've seen it was on a poster for the show at Geary Temple, San Francisco, Feb 8, 1979, on their first U.S. tour. The show was a benefit concert and not supported by their management or record company, so the poster is a crude locally-produced one; the words "The Clash" do not appear on the poster, although there is a photo of the band and that slogan. Seems to indicate that the slogan came from U.S. fans, not the record company. Certa 19:56, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

From User talk:Pjoef
 * I was curious if you knew the origin of “THE ONLY BAND THAT MATTERS!” Was it the Clash, a record company, or someone in the press who created that phrase? Kingturtle (talk) 16:05, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * "The Only Band That Matters" is credited to Epic Records' Director of A&R, Bruce Harris, but I didn't found a reliable source (currently is at The_Clash). There is also an archived discussion at Talk:The_Clash/Archive_1 archive talk page.  I know it was used by Clash's American fans during their first tour in North America on 1979. —P Joe F. (talk • contribs) 18:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Revision history of The Clash related to "The Only Band That Matters" statement

 * 06:26, 29 December 2007 by User:211.30.52.219: "Epic Records A&R director dubbed them "The Only British Band That Matters.", which fans later adapted into the well known title "The Only Band That Matters ".
 * 06:30, 7 March 2007 by User:R._fiend: "Their record company once dubbed them "The Only Band That Matters," a phrase which caught on with their fans, and has since become closely associated with them".
 * 15:17, 25 March 2007 by User:Iprudence: "Their record company once dubbed them "The Only Band That Matters," a phrase which caught on with their fans, and has since become closely associated with them. Epic Records Director of A&R, Bruce Harris, came up with the phrase. He is credited with convincing the company to release The Clash in the USA. His wife, Marion(Bernstein) Harris, was the product manager.She is credited with convincing Joe Strummer to include lyrics in the sleeve."
 * 20:30, 6 April 2007 by User:Nazamo did the reference TAG.

Songs
WikiProject The Clash/Songs

I have created that (and linked from main page) to track progress in songs made. Since many are redirect I've put (redirect) next to it and (article) next to article ones... I have listed all the songs from studio albums by album on that page but have only gone through The Clash (UK) --gren グレン 11:15, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you! It could be useful for the project.  There is a project page (also used as a container and as a whiteboard), WikiProject The Clash/List of related articles, that contains all the links to wikipedia's articles related to The Clash.  Check it out when you have a chance.  I have added the link to the page WikiProject The Clash/Songs in the Project pages and see also section on the main page of the project and the WPClash template in its talk page, so it has been categorized as a Non Article (NA) page of this project.  You'll find it in Category Non-article The Clash pages.  Thank you again.  —P Joe F. (talk • contribs) 20:15, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Johnny Green

 * From User talk:Pjoef

As a published author he should merit an article even if it's brief? Wwwhatsup (talk) 14:25, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Reporting For Duty
I don't spend a shitload of time on TOW but I was with the band -as a fan and employee- from 1977-breakup. If I can be of any help...hit me on my talk paeg.--Piepie (talk) 12:37, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

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 * This project elects to use the new C level. The C class is a very good idea.  Thanks!  –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:28, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for The Clash
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 * We will do our best to help! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:33, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Milestone Announcements
I thought this WikiProject might be interested. Ping me with any specific queries or leave them on the page linked to above. Thanks! - Jarry1250 (t, c) 22:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:25, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

sounds no 1
didn't the clash by the clash get voted the no 1 album of all time in sounds sometime during the nineties? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.229.19 (talk) 18:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Personally, I don' know, but I've copied your question in the talk page of the album article. Would you like to create an account? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 18:18, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

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 * ✅ What a great idea. Thank you! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 18:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Does your WikiProject care about talk pages of redirects?
Does your project care about what happens to the talk pages of articles that have been replaced with redirects? If so, please provide your input at User:Mikaey/Request for Input/ListasBot 3. Thanks, Matt (talk) 02:26, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your message. We are attempting to keep track of redirects (see: CAT:Redirect-Class The Clash articles.) Click here for the full answer. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:07, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Audio samples to be removed from single infobox
According to this discussion, there is consensus to remove the audio samples from Infobox_Single. I have noticed that this field is used in several articles within this project (e.g. Complete Control, London Calling (song)) so I thought I bring this issue to your attention. I recommend you move the audio clips out of the infobox before you lose them. – IbLeo (talk) 07:12, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

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Request for comment on Biographies of living people
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Album tracks
Per WP:NSONGS, album tracks don't by default need standalone articles. I've edited WikiProject The Clash/to do to reflect this. --John (talk) 16:14, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Mick Jones move
Someone is again trying to move the MJ page. Go to Talk:Mick Jones and put in your two units of local currency. Wwwhatsup (talk) 05:37, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The result of the move request was: Not moved. – Jafeluv 08:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:46, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

The Clash articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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We would like to ask you to review the The Clash articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (&diams;) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

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For the Wikipedia 1.0 editorial team, SelectionBot 23:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I outlined all the details below, but I have not answered to the Wikipedia 1.0 team because it is very important to know your opinion and suggestions.

The following table shows all articles featured in the 0.8 provisional selection.

I think that we can ask to add some or all of the following articles (all related to this project, of course) to the 0.8 collection of Wikipedia articles for the offline release of the encyclopedia:

Practically, I have added all the remaining C-class articles that were not selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team, excluding Super Black Market Clash, which is a compilation (even if I personally think that Black Market Clash is a studio album ~ lol ~ but this is another story.) What do you think? Any constructive effort and contributions on the 8 selected articles (and to the other 12 I would like to include in the 0.8 version) are more than welcome and much appreciated. If we will have a chance to work on some of them, please provide the revisionIDs here or to the wikipedia 1.0 editorial team. Thanks in advance. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:09, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I've contacted the Wikipedia 1.0 team at WPTalk:Version 0.8#WP The Clash and I asked them to add the articles listed in the above table. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:42, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry to have been so slow in following up - I've had a huge amount of feedback to work through! In the meantime, London Calling has been improved to B-Class and can now be included, and I'm proposing we also include Topper Headon and Paul Simonon.  Beyond that, we can't really add more articles or I'd be accused of favouritism!  Could you suggest good revisionIDs for those three articles?  Many thanks, Walkerma (talk) 22:43, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

New Member, plus new Clash-related article
Hello Clash fans, I've been on WP for almost three years and I just don't know why I didn't join this project earlier. (I suppose it's because The Clash article is so Good!) I greatly expanded a stub article this week that I thought you might like to take a look at: Red Rockers. Not portal-worthy, but the project page does say to slap templates on any Clash-related article at all, so I did. I'd appreciate any comments, here or at the article, or on my talkpage. I'll try to help out with pending tasks from now on. SteveStrummer (talk) 04:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing
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 * ✔️ Great tool! Many, many thanks. (Reply on tool's talk page) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:55, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Sort it out tour / Give em enough rope.
I don't want to step on the toes of anyone who is already working on it, but the second UK tour, is barely covered and The Innocents and Slits as two "promoted as female" bands, means that The Clash took more female musicians on the road than any one before. This is for two reasons, The Slits and The Innocents are among the first all girl bands and The Clash were unbiased. The Clash also had a female manager at that time, referenced by the name of the tour, the "Sort it out Tour" which was to get organized after the split from Bernie Rhodes and to introduce Caroline Coon. Whether it happened accidentally, or or not, this is seems worthy of note. The Innocents, who I recently added to the main page, seem to have been forgotten, any thoughts? Please forgive me if this is not the appropriate site for these comments, as I'm new to this arena. – EstherLaver (talk 15:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)) EstherLaver Yes, I agree with you, it is worthy of note, but I didn't understand which article you are referring when you say that "the Sort It Out Tour is barely covered". I could be wrong, but I think it is uncovered at all. Last summer an editor asked to add info about the relationship between The Clash and The Jam in The Clash article, but there was no consensus. I have planned to start (at least) an article that covers all their tours, but, like everyone else, I have very little time for writing at the moment and there is so much material about, and I don't want to write just a bare list of dates and places. Maybe one day I'll do it and I will include The Slits and The Innocents. P.S.: Sorry, got it now lol. Thanks for creating that article. I will work on it and try to "wikify" it a bit. Cheers. –p joe f (talk • contribs)
 * Any discussions, suggestions, questions, concerns and/or comments related to improving Wikipedia's articles are more than welcome, Esther. Thank you.

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