Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Rolling Stones/Archive 1

Linked songs
I just gave away the better part of an hour and a half to linking all the discussion pages for the songs to the WP rating thing. I didn't bother with some of the more minor cover songs from the early days, but bigger covers (Time Is On My Side, You Gotta Move) were linked. Stan weller 05:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

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Signed up to the project, got a question to ask
What makes every single song from Sticky Fingers notable? I'm just wondering. Most other albums do not have articles about every song from a particular album, although people working on articles about other classic rock bands such as The Beatles, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin seem to have done the same...--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 22:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It's a notable album. I wouldn't do the same for Steel Wheels. Mind you a lot of the songs are unfinished (as you can see form the lack of sources on "Sway"). Stan weller 08:07, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I think it could be better to merge the content about individual songs (unless they were released as a single) into the main album article, which would make the main album article(s) longer and avoid stubby song articles, giving us a better chance of FA/GA album articles by the band.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 15:32, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * A good point, but some songs not released as singles deserve their own page. What I've noticed most album articles lacking are quotes from the band, critics, etc. Articles for the songs open up more avenues, particularly songs that have been covered by other artists. It keeps things neat. But I agree that with certain songs it might be reasonable. Stan weller 09:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

We should make a "This user is a member of WikiProject The Rolling Stones" userbox - I'd have that on my userpage
Just saying. It'd be useful, what do you think?--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 19:38, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Created one. You may want to use and update it, Stan Weller.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 03:59, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh good job. I'll add it to my page. Stan weller (talk) 13:00, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

seeking feedback
i've been working on some of the RS pages, mainly Jagger/Richards and Ron Wood - if someone has some time to have a look and leave some feedback on the discussion pages there, that would be cool. maybe in particular the question of renaming the Ron Wood page could use some consensus - he does seem to consistently prefer "Ronnie" these days.

also: if someone could let me know whether the Keith page has calmed down enough to make it worth working on, i'd be grateful. i feel like i can contribute a lot on that subject, but i value my digestion too much to get involved in conflicts about what he's ingesting, etc. :] thanks & swing on ... Sssoul (talk) 12:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

2000 Light Years from Home
Hi. I've had to revert this article to a previous version - the lyrics had been added, then removed, but the removal took the categories etc. with it. However, I also changed the length to that on the most recent version - considerably shorter than it had been previously. Can someone please review and/or correct the article to ensure I haven't put wrong information on it ? Thanks :-) CultureDrone (talk) 07:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Taskforce
How do you feal about being a taskforce for the rock music projects. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 21:48, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This article has quite a few editors who are dedicated to Rolling Stones pages only and would be better served functioning as an independent project rather than being lost in the shuffle of "yet another failed Wiki-taskforce". Project taskforces on Wiki tend to slip through the cracks unless they are history, science or military related. Creating a bunch of taskforces under an already spread too thin Rock project will just result in a bunch of useless music taskforce failures. Libs (talk) 22:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at the Queens of the Stone Age taskforce, which is active, and i'll promise you new members if you turn into a taskforce. Oh and the rock music project is active, just got over 15 new members this last week so. Oh an i'll promise your taskforce new members and i'll do what i'll with the rock music project, the queens of the stone age taskforce, and russia project. If you don't know what i mean take a look. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 10:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Stones hoax?
Help Check out Justin Davis please. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:04, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

conventions for disambiguation
not a big deal, but the devil (or is it God??) is in the details: i was recently wikifying the setlists in the Steel Wheels/Urban Jungle Tour article, and it was pretty much of a nuisance to find that some titles are disambiguated as "Rolling Stones song" and some are disambiguated as "The Rolling Stones song". it seems like one or the other should be used consistently - can we choose one and start changing the disambiguation pages appropriately? Sssoul (talk) 12:32, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd say "The Rolling Stones song," though that same God knows I've used "Rolling Stones song" in the past. Stan weller (talk) 18:29, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * thanks for taking an interest - i realize this is a pretty low-level "problem". :] i can see the point of either version, but if it were up to me i guess i'd go for the briefer one.  is there maybe a quick way to check which is more frequent in the current disambiguation pages?  if one is significantly more common already, it would probably make sense to stick with that ... and it might be more hassle than it's actually worth anyway. i don't really know what's involved in rearranging disambiguations. Sssoul (talk) 20:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * i'm rather surprised/alarmed to see Mick Jagger and Brian Jones on the list of selected articles - they both seem to me to need a *lot* of work, unless they've been improved a lot lately ... and just skimming them, the MJ article still seems very patchy and includes factual errors; the BJ article still seems full of unsourced assertions. does anyone else who works on Stones articles share that view? Sssoul (talk) 17:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

an RfC of interest
an RfC you all might be interested in is in progress about whether the genre field should be reinstated in the album info-boxes. Sssoul (talk) 21:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Eliminating all "Pop culture" usage lists from song pages
We need to get rid of all of these. It should be up to the creators of pages in which each song is used to list the usage. The "Sympathy for the Devil" page is a prime example. The page was too clutered with unverified claims and it looks messy. None of the Beatles' song pages feature these so we have an example to follow. Stan weller (talk) 22:40, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * sounds right to me - in honour of this sensible proposal i've just eliminated this section from Honky Tonk Women. Sssoul (talk) 18:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

You should not just remove the "Pop Culture" or trivia sections from the song pages. Instead you must try to accomodate them into the articles. For more information on how to deal with Trivia sections, check Trivia sections--66.253.145.149 (talk) 13:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Also please check "In popular culture" articles before trimming anymore articles. --66.253.145.149 (talk) 13:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * yes, that essay points out that there are different viewpoints regarding trivia sections; there is no requirement that editors "must try to accommodate them into the articles", especially when the trivia is unsourced. if you have a source for some particular piece of information and see a way to work it into the article, great; simply restoring trivia sections without discussion is a form of slow edit warring, so please stop doing that to Stones-related articles - thanks. Sssoul (talk) 09:33, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * ok, maybe i shouldn't have reverted the trivia section without discussing it in the talk page. do know though, that although there are no requirements for editors to accommodate unsourced materials into articles, there are requirements for editors to delete them(the unsourced materials) unless they are considered vandalism. please check and see how to deal with uncited sources http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability .then again, "in popular culture/legacy" sections are not evil, so please do not delete them. --66.253.145.149 (talk) 10:21, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * also if you feel that something is irrelevant (regardless if it is in a trivia/in popular culture/legacy sections or not, and is not vandalism) and needs to be deleted, please discuss it in the talk page. trivia sections many times contain relevant information, but are deleted just for being trivia sections.--66.253.145.149 (talk) 10:26, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

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participation please
someone's nominated Jagger/Richards for deletion - participation in the discussion here would be welcome. Sssoul (talk) 05:19, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

It's Only Rock 'n Roll
there's a proposal here to move It's Only Rock 'n' Roll to a correctly-punctuated version of the title - does anyone object? does anyone approve? thanks Sssoul (talk) 07:39, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

I was board ........... Portal
Hi guys I am Buzz from the WikiProject Canadian music... i was noticing you guys dont have a portal...so here you go guys!! --->  >>Portal:The Rolling Stones.. ::Buzzzsherman (talk) 05:42, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Move request
I think it would be best to move Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Rolling Stones to Wikimedia Commons has media related to:The Rolling Stones because all other Sister project call it The Rolling stones see here you will notice the Rolling stones magazine also link to the stones stuff And yes i notice that there is an S difference but still!!!..now i am bring this up here because.. i have no clue who or were to post this. As i am just an IP USER on Wikimedia Commons...was hoping someone here could help!!!! ....Or tell me that I am crazy and go away!!!! LOL :) Buzzzsherman (talk) 22:03, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

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