Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Theatre/Archive 1

Message from Goofyjim
Goofyjim 10:31, 24 July 2007 (UTC)==So, what do we do now?== First let me thank you for becoming a member of this WikiProject!

Message from Ganymead
I started this page in late May of this year and I have been conspicuously absent. My apologies, I took an unexpected break from Wikipedia for a little over three months, but I have returned. *flourish, trumpets* This page hasn't really changed much. We have produced some nice templates (thanks Yossarian!) and have added a few items to the action items list. Personally, since my return, I have been hard at work on Category:Theatre, rearranging, moving and generally trying to clean the category. However, I established this page with a purpose (actually there's a whole list of them on the main page) and I would like to see some of those goals attained. Ok, so we have a page, some members, now what? First off, I'd like to see some more activity on this page.

Let me share some of my ideas and I'd like to hear any suggestions you may have.


 * Creating a theatre portal.
 * Theatre Collaboration of the Week (or some amount of time). If we have people participating, this can be a marvelous way of improving article quality and bringing them up to FA status.
 * Some type of collaboration with some of the other WikiProjects such as WikiProject Broadway and WikiProject New York Theatre. This could include a variety of collaborative efforts.
 * I would like to add a new goal of establishing notabilty guidelines for theatre articles. Many these would cover actors, playwrights and other theatre personnel; plays and dramatic works; and theatres and theatre companies. There doesn't appear to be much of a problem now, but I forsee that in the future some issues may arise and having guidelines will be helpful.

And finally, we need some nominations for the Tillie Blobbs Theatre Award. For the time being, lets put our nominations here. I shall eventually create a separate page for the award and nominations.

So whaddya think? Cheers! *Exeunt* Ganymead 02:05, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

History of Western Theatre Series and Asian Theatre Series
I was hunting around Wikipedia and found a marvelous Infobox for the History of Architecture series. I took the infobox apart and created one for the History of Western Theatre and Asian Theatre Series infoboxes. Of course quite a few articles will have to be created and/or worked on before these boxes can be launched. The boxes can be seen here Infoboxes. What do y'all think? *Exeunt* Ganymead 20:42, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

List of LORT Member Theatres
Well, I personally am working on the List of LORT Member Theatres and am wanting to make sure that every LORT Theatre has at least a decent stub. I just got hired by Trinity Repertory Company, so I created an article for them, but there's a lot yet left to do, and I'd sure love some help! &Euml;vilphoenix Burn! 04:03, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Congrats on your new position! I'll work a bit on the LORT list. Thanks for your hardwork! *Exeunt* Ganymead 15:57, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Plays Infobox
I created a plays infobox (based on the films infobox) that can be used on play articles: Template:Infobox_Play. It doesn't have much at the moment, I'm just using it for some ancient greek plays I've been working on. If any of you would like to use it or help improve upon it, go right ahead. Here's an example in an article: Cyclops (play)

I just tried out a modified version on The Sisters Rosensweig. I don't know how much info I sohuld have added, or if there's an appropriate image to put in, but any imput you might have would be greatly appreciated.--Swiftblade21 21:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Here's a picture: sisters rosensweig. You could probably claim "fair use" for this as "promotional material".  - Ravenous 21:20, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Articles for the Wikipedia 1.0 project
Hi, I'm a member of the Version_1.0_Editorial_Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing using these criteria, and we are looking for A-Class and good B-Class articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Can you recommend any suitable articles on theatre? Featured articles would also be great. Please post your suggestions here. Cheers!--Shanel 19:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Off-hand, there are a number of good theatre related Featured Articles. Here's a list.

I shall look for A and B Class articles this evening and provide a list. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 20:51, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Abbey Theatre
 * Augusta, Lady Gregory
 * Augustan drama
 * Samuel Beckett
 * Blackface
 * Humphrey Bogart
 * Colley Cibber
 * The Country Wife
 * Irish theatre
 * Ian McKellen
 * Porgy and Bess
 * The Relapse
 * Restoration comedy
 * Restoration spectacular
 * Julia Stiles
 * John Millington Synge
 * John Vanbrugh
 * Western (genre)


 * Thanks!--Shanel 18:37, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Defibrillation for WikiProject Theatre
It has seemed that little has actually happened here in the almost year that this project has been in existance. So, I will try one final time to resuscitate this WikiProject. Any suggestions on what we might do to attract some interest to this project? *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 20:32, 16 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I think some good work has happened. There is still, of course, a lot to do. Because the scope of Theatre is so large, I think we need a way of focusing the efforts of individual contributors on more specific areas. As an example, I've been doing some work on technical theatre, where there is actually a lot of activity, but I think that the area needs a bit more co-ordination. Don't know how this would be achieved ... it was just a thought! - Dan 14:56, 18 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. If you have a clean organized list of projects, perhaps divided by topic - I think you might see more involvement here.  I think I've made a lot of progress on the ancient Greek plays the last couple months.  If you'd like, I can compile a wishlist to post here of what kind of things they still need.  Also, I think getting the theatre box on the discussion pages would help more people find this project.  I went ahead and finished adding the them to all the major ancient greek playwrite's play pages. - Ravenous 06:51, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your responses. I'm glad to know someone has taken up the banner of Greek theatre. You may also wish to check out the Theatre Article Assessment and add Greek playwrights, plays, etc. to the lists. I have decided to create a few smaller WikiProjects to concentrate on specific areas of theatre. I'm hoping to roll out WikiProject Elizabethan Theatre very soon. Certainly a project for Greek Theatre should also be created. This way, theatre can be taken in a bite sized chunk. Once I finish filling in the text, I'll post the possible new WikiProject here for all to review before it officially is launched. Thanks for your interest! *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 21:59, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Naming convention for stage production articles
If I want to create The Trail of the Lonesome Pine (stage production), is that the correct parenthetical designation? Would "stage" or "theatre" be preferred? I bow to your collective wisdom. Her Pegship 16:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * This an article on the play "Trail of the Lonesome Pine" or the outdoor production? For the play the convention would follow that it would be called "Trail of the Lonesome Pine (play)". In addition, any information regarding the stage production should follow under that rather than having a separate article. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 16:46, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Is an "outdoor production" not a play? (It would indeed be about the outdoor production.) Would you mind giving me a clue on the differences between "play", "theatrical production", "stage production"? Thanks so much - Her Pegship 17:11, 15 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Play: the written script. Production: a particular theatrical performance of that play. So for example Hamlet is a play, but there have been lots of different productions of it over the last few centuries. My guess is that your article will be on the play, rather than a specific production of it. Is that right? The Singing Badger 17:34, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Bulbgraph.png|left]] Aha! Okey dokey. I'm cleaning up some film articles which also refer to plays, productions, etc., and want to be sure that, when I split them, they're As You Like It. Cheers, Her Pegship 18:50, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Crediting Casts
I asked this at the Musical Theatre Talk page first, but that was before I found this

As the IBDB provides a wealth of information regarding casts, as well as writers and directors, would it be appropriate to begin carrying the information over?

For example, I was browsing the site and came upon the page for The Crucible. I was dissapointed to find that the original cast was not listed there. I found the information listed on IBDB, and was considering carrying it over, but then I remembered the rules regarding copyright infringment. Is it acceptable to carry that kind of information over, if IBDB is listed as a source for information?

It would be one more step towards having the largest collection of theatre information on the internet.

-Swiftblade21

That information is not copyrightable, therefore it is perfectly acceptable to transfer the information. Though, certainly with a well-known play such as The Crucible, only the information from the most notable productions should be included. In situations where there are only a few notable actors then you may simply say that such-and-such and such-and-such led a cast directed by so-and-so. This certainly prevents having articles made up of many lists. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 21:39, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I was just going to carry over the original Broadway casts. I was just concerned that the information was copyrighted, as the IBDB has a copyright page. --Swiftblade21 21:50, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

New Template!
For the plays of Tom Stoppard:

Also, I've been adding the other templates (i.e. Mamet and Pinter) to the articles they belong to. -- Yossarian


 * Marvelous! *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 14:49, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

An invitation to all members of this project
 '''WikiProject Arts Announcing the creation of WikiProject Arts, an effort to create a collaboration between all arts projects and artistically-minded Wikipedians in order to improve arts coverage. If you think you can help, please join us! H AM  18:14, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Non Naturlistic theatre
Has anyone considered putting information about the styles of non naturalistic theatre on wikipedia? I for one would like to see it part of this project, as it seems to be an important and influential part of modern theatre.

WikiProject Musicals
WikiProject Broadway has recently been renamed WikiProject Musicals. Since the project has moved beyond the scope of simply New York Theatre, I think it would probably be a good idea to move it as a descendent of WikiProject Theatre. There doesn't seem to be any process for doing this, and I just wanted to check with you guys before I went ahead and did it. &mdash; Music Maker  05:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Theatres in England
User:Modernmille has added at least 50-60 stubs on theatres in England. These are one-line articles that don't assert any notability of anything of the like. In fact, most of them are the same stub, just with different names, cities, and seating capacities. Would anyone be willing to take a look at some of these and try to make good articles out of them? Here's her contributions. Metros232 17:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

British theatre actor database
I'm looking for a British equivalent of the IBDB, a sort of IMDB for stage shows an stage actors in the UK. Can anyone recommend anything here? Any help is greatly appreciated. Please leave a note on my talk page if you answer here, or leave your answer on the help desk where I also placed this question. - Mgm|(talk) 23:22, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * couldn't see if anyone had ever replied to this, but i find arts archive is the best (although by no means complete). Amo 23:14, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Westport Country Playhouse
Woot. I have joined WikiProject Theatre. I've been working avidly on Westport Country Playhouse in an attempt to make it a featured article. I have access to boatloads of information on it. Unfortunately, after comparing it with Abbey Theatre, I realize most of the information I've added is nothing like that featured article's information. If any of you'd like to review it or just give me some advice, I'd be ever grateful.

Theater terms
Theater terms is bad, and there doesn't seem to be any connection between it and this WikiProject. Given that theatre has its own language, this page should be good.


 * I've moved it to List of theatre terms, and I've begun to change the format used.

Production and Cast information
I'm not a project member, but have been adding a little content to a few theatre articles.

Is there a standard format for cast lists and production lists? Should there be? At the moment it seems like articles have all kinds of different structures.

Dybryd 01:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

new contributor
I have contributed numerous articles on plays and playwrights, and created pages for Indiana Repertory Theatre and Phoenix Theatre (Indianapolis). You can find more related entries on my user page. I'd have added a template on the discussion page for each, but I don't see one. Scottandrewhutchins 00:22, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Theatre in Pakistan
I've just finished a very basic cleanup of Theatre in Pakistan. It could sure use a looking over by someone more familiar with the topic. Whitejay251 22:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)--

Outdoor Ampitheaters
Hi, I'm trying to help a friend with a college project and I was wondering if anyone had a list of outdoor ampitheaters built by the WPA program. If so can someone either post it or send me a link on my talk page. Thanks for the help! --Lekogm 23:02, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Kabuki actors
Hi all. I've been working on Kabuki-related subjects for a short while, and now I am officially joining your Project. Do any of you work significantly on Asian theatre?

Just wanted to mention that, after a brief discussion with the guys over at WikiProject Japan, we've agreed that, for now at least, all Kabuki actors should be named in the traditional Japanese way. E.g. Nakamura Kanzaburō, not Kanzaburō Nakamura. It can get a bit iffy, as a number of modern kabuki actors have also been in film, TV, and Western-style theatre; their names may be more well-known among certain crowds by the Western order. I can't imagine this will be a problem with you all, but I thought it'd be proper to mention it. Thanks. LordAmeth 10:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Project Directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:
 * User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
 * User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
 * User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now put the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 00:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Griffin (The Invisible Man)
Hi, in order to complete the above article, we need someone to list any theatrical versions of the above character. I am unable to do so due to knowing nothing about the character history--SGCommand (talk • contribs) 10:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Julia Stiles
Julia Stiles is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 21:15, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Stablepedia
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 * See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team. If you wish to comment, please comment there. ★ MESSED  ROCKER ★  23:53, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

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Mime artist, Pantomime, etc.
Could someone with this project take a look at the situation with the mime/pantomime articles? It is currently quite a mess. Here's what I saw: This situation is quite confusing and I was hoping someone involved in WikiProject Theatre could sort it out. At a minimum, articles and their talk pages should redirect consistently. I can't say whether the merge requests are valid, but The British Pantomime seems to duplicate the information in Pantomime (not to mention have a strage title that looks like the title of a particular work, not a genre or theatre tradition). It looks like Mime artist is intended to deal with mime/pantomime in the United States, but that's just my admitted confused opinion. Mike Dillon 21:52, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Pantomime (mergefrom request from The British Pantomime)
 * Talk:Pantomime (redirect to Talk:Pantomime (disambiguation))
 * Pantomime (theatre) (redirect to Pantomime)
 * Talk:Pantomime (theatre) (has WikiProject Theatre)
 * Pantomime (disambiguation)
 * Talk:Pantomime (disambiguation) (does not have WikiProject Theatre)
 * The British Pantomime (mergeto request to Pantomime)
 * Mime artist
 * Talk:Mime artist (does not have WikiProject Theatre)


 * P.S. It looks like you may need the help of an admin to sort this out. Mike Dillon 21:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC)