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Scope of Project
I'm a little confused on the scope of this project. Is it really all things maritime? Here are some articles that are not part of this project (just random maritime examples). Should they be, or is this not the right project for them? EEZ, International Safety Management Code, MARPOL, piracy, Protection and Indemnity Insurance, bollard, fuel oil. - attilag 18:22, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There's no right or wrong answer for questions like this, but here's my opinion:
 * Absolutely: International Safety Management Code, MARPOL,Protection and Indemnity Insurance... There are many, many items like this.
 * Maybe: EEZ
 * Some items fall squarely into other projects that are more active than this one. There's nothing wrong about adding them, per se, but one questions the usefulness of doing so.   For example, bollard is probably best at WP:SHIPS, fuel oil at WP:ENERGY, piracy at WP:PIRATE.   H aus Talk 19:22, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

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WikiProject Boats
FYI, there is a proposal for a WP:BOATS to cover watercraft that are smaller than those bannered by WP:SHIPS. As several watercraft articles have been debannered from WPSHIPS, it seems appropriate that there be a wikiproject to cover these articles. See WikiProject Council/Proposals/Boats

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Port international de Port-au-Prince
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Categories for discussion
I just opened up this discussion on Category:Port settlements and some similarly named categories. This is a different target than the last time these were nominated, and in the meantime nearly every category with the word "settlements" has been renamed. I would welcome comments on the concept.--Mike Selinker (talk) 22:23, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

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Combine with WP:Maritime Trades and/or move to a task force of WP:Transport?
The founder and only really active member of the Maritime Trades Wikiproject has suggested that that project be rebadged as a task force of WikiProject Transport.

I think we're at the point with this Wikiproject that we might consider something similar. Our article quantum is fairly stable, with relatively few ports-related additions to tagged pages. We have a very small active membership, and could seriosuly do with the wider attention and editor input that a larger Wikiproject might bring. And the divide betwene Transprot, Ships, Maritime trades and Ports topics is challenging and often arbitrary.

Potential negatives include losing the specific focus on ports, and reducing the prospect of attracting editors who are singularly interested in ports articles and not anything else either maritime or transport-related. But these seem unlikely to arise, especially as we're not attracting nrew members as it is, nor are we consistently improving the quality of ports info across most of the current article list.

Comments and criticisms welcomed, as always. Euryalus (talk) 11:40, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Move to a task force of WP:Transport?
Hi, I started this project in 2007. For some time, I've been kicking around the idea of moving this project to be a task force of WikiProject Transport. I think a Maritime Transport Task Force would have a few advantages:


 * focus the scope of this project
 * make the scope more immediately clear
 * encourage a symbiotic relationship with the transport project and its near relatives

Comments are welcome. Cheers. Haus Talk 09:32, 28 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I was thinking exactly the same for WP:PORTS, for which I've been pretty much the only active member for some years. I support your suggestion for Maritime Trades as a transport taskforce, and suggest Ports might also be combined into it - teh Ports wikiproject only covers seaports and is by definition a subset of maritime transport topics. Euryalus (talk) 11:24, 28 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Smashing idea. 100% in agreement. Cheers.  Haus Talk 11:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The water is muddy on this topic. See the shipwreck proposal I made last year. In particular the "break" section sums up my thoughts on maritime project related mergers. There are many maritime related projects that could be merged together. As for this specific proposal, a maritime transport task force sounds too much like ships. What other form of maritime transport is there besides a ship? Brad (talk) 18:18, 28 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I take your point re the shipwrecks merge proposal, but hope springs eternal that a consensus might be found this time around, and for these particular merges. Re maritime transport that aren't ships, the 400-odd WP:PORTS articles relate to maritime transport but the ports wikiproject specifically doesn't include actual vessels. They are mostly the seaports themselves, the port authorities, and some ports logistics articles (for example containerization). I'd be equally happy for consideration of merging Ports into WP:SHIPS as a way of tapping into its much larger editor base and interest in things marine. But WP:SHIPS has a more specific focus than the overall Maritime Transport WikiProject, and port facilities might seem an odd fit. Hence this proposal. I have no objection to the idea to a "maritime infrastructure" taskforce instead, either here or as a WP:SHIPS subset. Any views? Euryalus (talk) 01:50, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * My thoughts on merges have gone in 100 different directions over the last two years or so. Your port project would more easily merge into this one as ports are where a lot of maritime trade goes on. Right this minute I'm thinking that this project could expand scope and perhaps change the name a little to cover more things maritime. Merging this project into Transport seems like a waste of time as the transport project has such a large scope that most people seem to go toward a particular topic; thus leaving the main transport project abandoned in itself. The talk page there is dead for example. I'm always willing to help find a calm and rational drama-free solution to this. Brad (talk) 02:43, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, whatever seems good. There's no particular urgency - if we do nothing the various projects will just carry on as they are now. But I'm still of the view that some sort of merger will surely help with the quality of the ports articles, given the present pool of WP:PORTS editors is tiny and mostly inactive on this topic. Also, the distinction between ports, maritime trades, transport and ships is a little arbitrary. Euryalus (talk) 04:00, 29 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I suggest instead that a WP:WikiProject Maritime (Maritime WikiProject) be created instead, to coordinate between WP:SHIPS and other maritime wikiprojects, as a child of Transport, and merge Maritime Trades into that as a task force. This would give Maritime and hydronautical topics a project similar to WP:AVIATION. And WP:PORTS could go there as another Task Force. (this structure would be like WPAVIATION subprojects on Aircraft and Airports.) ... this could also incorporate the failed proposals for WikiProject Boats and WikiProject Submarines... also coordinating with WPSAIL, WPFISHING, WPWATERSPORTS, WPSCUBA; and allowing a place for recreational water activities that are not sports. 184.144.170.217 (talk) 06:26, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This sounds the most reasonable idea except for making things a taskforce of transport. The project would have enough scope to stand on its own. Brad (talk) 21:57, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That was my suggestion actually, make a new wikiproject maritime, analogous to wikiproject aviation. Everything would be a task force of it, a (possibly shared) child project of it, or just plain merged into it. It would itself be a child of wikiproject transport. 184.144.162.245 (talk) 05:21, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

(od)Why did Haus bother starting a conversation about merging projects in which several ideas came up but he ignored those and merged the project the way he wanted to anyway? This ought to be good. Brad (talk) 21:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If you can get consensus to get anything wider-ranging done, by all means, have at it. As to why I went ahead, I guess I double-clicked the watch here and heard crickets in the other three places I was watching.  Thanks for the agf there, partner.  Haus Talk 22:01, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd like to know why all the old talk and archives of WP Ports was eliminated. The archives and old talk should be visible. Indeed, you should have archived the old talk before redirecting the talk page. There should be an archive box here linking to the talk archives. Why was maritime trades moved, instead of ports? Why not just start a new talk page instead? 184.144.162.245 (talk) 05:24, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The archives were combined in archive 1. Haus Talk 11:15, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Consensus already existed to start a Maritime project as the IP described above. Euryalus appears to have been neutral as to where Ports ended up as long as it was in hopes of a busier project. Moving Maritime Trades to a task force of Transport has only doomed Maritime Trades to even more obscurity than it had to begin with. Brad (talk) 17:45, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Er, yeah, "doomed" because things on wikis are permanent & engraved in stone, right? I'll tell you what, if you and the IP can create a project and get the other watery wikiprojects to join up as task forces in the next year, I'll happily move these pages again.  If anyone wants to undo the talk page merges, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.  Cheers.  And add some fiber to your diet, Brad, you've been awfully cranky lately.  Haus Talk 18:15, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Being a not very active member, I am late to the discussion. My humble point of view (and honestly, I am not going to put up a tantrum for it) is that ports are not just a transport issue. They are mostly infrastructure, interface between sea and land, ship shelter, ship repair areas, and yes, also a point in the transport chain. Alphast 15:17, 24 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alphast (talk • contribs)

Marine engineering
The Marine engineering article is kind of a mess. It is currently NOT a part of any Ship-, or Sea-, or Marine-related WikiProject. It is a part of both the Technology WikiProject and the Transport WikiProject—but I'm guessing those projects are not heavily peopled with folks who understand ships and marine technology. Furthermore, the article seems to be confused about whether it is about the operation side of "engineering" (in the sense that railroad train operators and ship operators are included) or the design side of "engineering" (folks who do the design of large engines, big ships, power plants, electrical networks, etc.).

In short, I think the article badly needs to be in some other project to get it the attention it (probably) deserves. Thought it might be a good idea to let your project think/discuss it. I am a non-ship, non-marine oriented person so don't really have good understanding of the Wiki-world of marine subjects and projects. N2e (talk) 01:41, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * FWIW, I did bring the discussion up in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships, and they suggested that WikiProject Maritime Trades (which, I guess, is where I'm making this comment) might be a better place for it. N2e (talk) 01:46, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I want to respond just to let you know you're not being ignored. You did post in the right spot.  I don't think there is any active editor at wikipedia who has sufficient sources/interest in the marine engineering topic area to move that article, or similar ones like chief engineer forward.  Its been that way for 4 years, but hopefully some day that will change.  Cheers.  Haus Talk 02:00, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * That's cool. Wikipedia is improved in many ways.  If no-one comes along to really improve the article, then the unsourced stuff (which is most of the current article) will be winnowed out of Wikipedia over time, with whatever remains being clearly sourced.  (I do think still think that the article would be better off as a part of one of the marine- or engineering- WikiProjects.  Cheers.  N2e (talk) 18:28, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Just to clarify, WikiProject Transport/Maritime transport task force is a marine-WikiProject, albeit not one with many active editors. Cheers.  Haus Talk 19:30, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I understand. It's just that, as of this moment, the Marine engineering article is still NOT in any marine-related WikiProject.  I feel that I should not add it.  It is up to the members of the project to decide to add it or not.  N2e (talk) 19:34, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Um, it is, and it has been since 29 March 2007. Perhaps I should make the banner more, er, forceful somehow. Cheers.  Haus Talk 19:42, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * (outdent) Well I guess I'm pretty blind then. I looked several times a couple of weeks ago and saw it then (and see it now) as only a part of only two Wiki projects:  WikiProject Transport and WikiProject Technology.  I do see that the WP Transport banner includes the line: "This article is supported by the Maritime task force."  So you are quite correct, at a technical level.  But it sure does not appear to be under any marine-related purview when one quickly looks at the banners to see what projects might care about it.  I'm not arguing for any change, just providing Human factors engineering user feedback on how one user missed that message in the communication.  Thanks for your work on Marine-related articles.  Cheers.  N2e (talk) 23:56, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Project Banner
What has happened with the project banner at Template:WikiProject Maritime Trades? It's a bit of mess now. There now appears to be two projects banners for WikiProject Transport, the one I just mentioned and the one called Template:WikiProject Transport. The Maritime Trades one uses B-Class assessment where as the main project banner doesn't use B-Class assessment. It's also using non-standard categories for template & category namespace assessment. -- WOSlinker (talk) 00:21, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I noticed this. I'd recommend switching over to the WikiProject Transport banner, and improving that. Since it uses WPBannerMeta, it's possible to add B-class assessment without much difficulty.. also adding the Maritime Transport task force to the banner would be easy. All the cool kids are using WPBannerMeta. :-) Mlm42 (talk) 23:51, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I've added the taskforce option to the WikiProject Transport banner but will need discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Transport about the B-Class checklist. -- WOSlinker (talk) 07:59, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice work on this, WOSlinker. In addition to the B-class checklist, adding support for peer-review would be necessary to complete the merge of the Maritime Trades project into the Maritime transport task force.  I'll raise these two issues at WT:TRANSPORT.  Cheers.  Haus Talk 13:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Link to proposal. Cheers.  Haus Talk 14:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Scope?
What exactly is the scope of this task force? I see there is a long list of topics covered on the project page, but is it possible to summarize the scope in a sentence? For example, I was trying to figure out the relationship between this task force as WP:SHIPS as well as WikiProject Sailing, Water sports, Kayaking, Rowing and Fisheries and Fishing.

I'm a member of WP:SPACEFLIGHT, whose scope is "topics directly related to spaceflight" (including, for example "spacecraft"). The scope of this task force appears to be "all aspects of maritime transport"; but why then are "ships" excluded? Mlm42 (talk) 23:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * The scope is simply "topics directly related to moving things over/through/under water." Some ships are excluded, not all.  For example warships aren't primarily concerned with transport.  Some sailing vessels are/were primarily concerned with transport, for example Falls of Clyde (ship), others, like Hobie cat aren't.  As for the other projects, Fisheries and Fishing could have some overlap.  I can't think of an example from watersports, kayaking, or rowing that would be relevant to this project.  If you get my point, and can think of a way to make it clearer, then please, by all means, feel free to.  Cheers.  Haus Talk 23:58, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * My confusion stems from the fact that you have just contradicted yourself? The scope you have stated includes all ships (because ships move on water). So why are you excluding some ships? Is a kayak not a "moving thing on water"? Why then are they "not relevant to this project"? I think you could consider revising the scope you have stated.. after all, ducks also move on water, and fish move through it. Mlm42 (talk) 00:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Er, hmm. O.k., let's take a step back, then.  Take transport, which Random House defines as "the business of conveying people, goods, etc."  Then take the subset of transport that takes place using boats, barges, ships and so forth.  A duck is not in scope, because it's not in the business of conveying people, goods, etc.  Neither is a kayak, fish, water polo player, and so forth.  Haus Talk 01:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Right, so maybe "topics directly related to transport on, or through, bodies of water"? But I don't see how you're going to exclude things like Canoe, which the article Maritime history notes was the first kind of maritime transport.


 * Also, I don't see why, then, you are excluding warships, like Aircraft carrier, whose sole purpose is to "transport" aircraft over "water". Is it because of the overlap with WP:SHIPS? Mlm42 (talk) 01:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Take a look how the LCCS breaks down the subjects that fall under naval science here: Library of Congress Classification:Class V -- Naval Science. Subclasses VA-VG fall within the MILHIST maritime task force, while VK and VM lie more naturally here.  Add some subclasses from the HE section: HE380.8-971 Water transportation, HE380.8-560 Waterways, HE561-971 Shipping, and HE730-943	Merchant marine, Ocean shipping, and Coastwise shipping.  I'm sure spending a few hours reading through the system would bring up some other similar topics which would fall naturally into the scope, but I think this is a good place to pause.  Cheers.  Haus Talk 03:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay.. this seems like a somewhat complicated scope; but maybe it's worth spelling this out (or at least giving a summary) near the top of the project page, rather than half-way down the page, as it currently is? Mlm42 (talk) 17:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think fishing or watersports belongs under maritime transport. Watersports do not need to use boats, many don't use boats at all. Swimming for instance, scuba diving doesn't need boats either. Fishing and Fisheries is a hunting/agriculture/environment topic area. Fishing doesn't need boats, you can do aquaculture on land, you can fish from a bridge. Fish ladders at dams are definitely not a maritime transport topic. 184.144.169.126 (talk) 14:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

TEU
Everybody knows that TEU stands for twenty foot equivalent units. I'm inviting your opinion on whether we should add an "s" when referring to volumes of TEU. I must add that when I wear my journalism hat I do not add an "s". If a ship has a capacity of 9600 TEU I write 9600 TEU and not 9600 TEUs. When a port handles let's say 40 million TEU, this is what I write, not 40 million TEUs. In articles about ports in Wikipedia I've seen both TEUs and TEU's (where the latter is frankly wrong). The other though is a matter of usage. Opinions and consensus please. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 21:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Article template for sailing ships available
Ahoy mates! I've just made an Article template for sailing ships for your use. Any comments or modifications? Is there someplace here to put it? Djembayz (talk) 00:38, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I added a link to it here. I spent a couple of hours trying to hack it into a version of WP:WIZ, but the wizard's not quite to the point where it can take several parameters.  Nice work.  Haus Talk 11:57, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Sinking of the RMS Titanic
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Request for help for Near-shore salute
Hello! I think we need help with the article located under the title Near-shore salute. Please have a look at the talk page there. --Bensin (talk) 09:18, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Assessment requested
Could someone please assess Barratry (admiralty law)? Thanks, D O N D E groovily   Talk to me  04:17, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Students from California Maritime Academy
We have a bunch of students from the California Maritime Academy coming up through the Wikipedia hawsepipe ... let's give them a welcome from WikiProject Maritime Transport! Here's their class assignment page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:United_States_Education_Program/Courses/Information_Fluency Djembayz (talk) 12:32, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Graduate of Pakistan Marine Academy
Pakistan Marine Academy

Hello! here is an article that I have written on my own institution for Maritime Studies ... Please have a look and tell me if there is anything that can be added or edited ... And also please recognize the article ...

Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aliahmed47 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

New article
Is Maritime domain awareness within the scope of this project? If it is, please take it under your wing. Roger (talk) 11:12, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to Oct. 27 Editathon, Teamsters Labor History Research Center
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Proposed deletion of Port Guinea


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 * I can find no evidence that this place exists at all. It's not mentioned in any article about Guinea, nor Spanish West Africa; it doesn't appear on Google Maps; it's not on www.worldportsource.com or ports.com.

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Need a self propelled dry cargo barge
Can I get a self propelled dry cargo barge to buy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.139.4.148 (talk) 15:22, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

new article Nanaimo Harbour
Victoria Harbour is better-known on Vancouver Island, and this is no longer the major industrial port that it once was, just a heads-up about its creation, which is just a stub that got created in the context of certain geographic articles (e.g. Nanaimo River). Victoria Harbour (British Columbia) also needs a lot of work; relative to other BC port articles e.g. Port of Vancouver and Port of Prince Rupert it's kinda scattered.....Nanaimo's is still a link in the Trans-Canada Highway system (Departure Bay is part of the harbour) and was (is?) a main rail link to the mainland....once a very busy passenger port and coaling port also. Not sure what WP:Ports people might do with it, but there's lots out there to add.Skookum1 (talk) 13:21, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Also worth noting that Nanaimo Harbour and the Port of Nanaimo may not be technically the same thing, the port as an institution may take in the nearby secondary BC Ferries port, and other facilities; the harbour is a geographic object.Skookum1 (talk) 13:23, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Sea rescue organizations
The question arouse in WPSHIPS whether sea rescue organizations (e.g. the RNLI) are within that project's scope or more with Maritime Transport. Any comments? ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 19:29, 21 July 2013 (UTC)


 * The discussion regarding this can be found here. Tupsumato (talk) 07:49, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

List of deep-water ports
List of deep water ports, which presently redirects to List of Panamax ports, has been nominated for deletion at Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 March 1. Your input to the discussion there would be appreciated. Thryduulf (talk) 12:08, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Lists of ports
I have just significantly expanded Lists of ports, a list of lists of ports. It would benefit from attention from knowledgeable members of this WikiProject. Thryduulf (talk) 14:14, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Importance assessments and the WikiProject tag
I suspect that some of the 1540 unknown-importance articles of your task force have some importance information encoded, just incorrectly. Within WikiProject Transport, either  or   tags an article as within the task force's scope, but only   will properly assess them;   will not. I'm not good enough at template editing to fix this myself, but if someone can implement this fix at the template, it might significantly reduce your number of unassessed articles. --BDD (talk) 17:57, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Debark
The name of Debark (ship) is under discussion, see talk:Debark (ship) -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 04:58, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

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Port of Dover
Hi, I came across this article as an editor just included a photo of Dover as the first photo on the Port article. Is it really "the world's busiest passenger port"? The reference cited was retrieved in Feb 2010(?) but doesn't state as of when. thanks, p.s. there are no pages linked to its talk page so thats why i came here. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:39, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

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Navigation tower in harbor
Is there a correct name for a marker tower in a harbor that serves a similar purpose to a buoy, as shown in the picture at right? - Jmabel &#124; Talk 03:01, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Having no responses after a week, I've cross-posted at Reference desk/Humanities. - Jmabel &#124; Talk 02:18, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Unusual boats
Can anyone tell me anything about these somewhat unusual-looking boats? Any particular name for them? - Jmabel &#124; Talk 18:23, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Having no responses after a week, I've cross-posted at Reference desk/Humanities. - Jmabel &#124; Talk 18:28, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

MV Explorer (1969) listed at Requested moves
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Turn-of-the-century sailing ship and crew photos
I've just uploading a collection of photos from the turn of the century by Wilhelm Hester. Most of these photographs are in Washington and are of sailing ships and their captains and crews. Hopefully these can be helpful here. Images that need their categories check are being kept at commons:Category:Images from the Wilhelm Hester Photographs Collection to check, and a list of all the images is at commons:Category:Images from the Wilhelm Hester Photographs Collection. BMacZero (talk) 16:19, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

two Questions about container crane
Hello, I have two questions about the container crane page. first, what is the source of electric power voltage in "power"? second, I found this page https://www.asme.org/about-asme/who-we-are/engineering-history/landmarks/85-paceco-container-crane will this help the completeness of container crane history?

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Talk:BP Shipping
How do I get Talk:BP Shipping to show a Maritime-importance value as Mid? Instructions are not clear.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 19:48, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Ship transport listed at Requested moves
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Restructuring of pontoon articles
I'd like to draw attention to my edit of float (nautical) (and my related edit of pontoon (boat)) in the hope of attracting editors who can build upon the restructuring that I've started. I think the rationale is self-evident: there is a need for one article to serve as a central hub for several closely related topics. 118.210.163.176 (talk) 04:39, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Passengers of the RMS Titanic
I opened a proposal to trim the passenger lists at Passengers of the RMS Titanic a few weeks ago. We've only received a few responses. so I'm reaching out to related Wikiprojects for more input. Editors are invited to join the discussion here. Thanks –dlthewave ☎ 20:59, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Photos donated by the Navy of Brazil
Hello everyone,

In partnership with Wiki Education Brazil, the Brazilian Navy released 2070 pictures under CC BY-SA and CC 0.

The content was uploaded on commons and is ready for use on wikipedia.

Best regards Rodrigo Padula (talk) 13:18, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Move material from Windjammer to Sailing ship?
I invite editors to participate in discussions at Talk:Windjammer and Talk:Sailing ship about whether to move the substance of Windjammer to Sailing ship. Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 17:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I suggest an alternate solution to rename Windjammer to Iron sailing ship. Please comment at: Talk:Windjammer. Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 14:34, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Harold Cottam GA review
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Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
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Nomination of Portal:Nautical for deletion
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Flag of convenience - proposed move
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Request feedback on draft about Sandy Hook Pilot boat
I need your feedback on an article that I am writing that is still a draft. It is at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Elwood_Walter,_No._7 Thanks! --Greg Henderson 06:17, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Ship-owner § spelling
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Ship-owner § spelling. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:57, 27 July 2021 (UTC)