Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trinidad and Tobago/Archive 1

Tagging
I made an effort to start organising T&T articles, I tagged around 250 articles under WikiProject T&T (still a lot more outstanding). Please, put "Trinidad and Tobago=yes" in the WikiProject Caribbean tag when creating articles, or if you notice it missing. We likely need to get some organisation of this project first before tackling improving all the articles themselves. T&T is woefully unrepresented on Wikipedia, especially in the Cultural and Sporting categories with only a handful of decent articles and countless stubs. Let's make an effort to better rep our country! Rasadam (talk) 02:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme
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Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Trinidad and Tobago
Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Release Version Nominations.

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Coordinators' working group
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Proposal for a 200-WikiProject contest
A proposal has been posted for a contest between all 200 country WikiProjects. We're looking for judges, coordinators, ideas, and feedback.

The Transhumanist 00:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement
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Unreferenced living people articles bot
Okip  23:21, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

TTO
This TLA disambig lists trinidad and tobago as having this acronym. i cant find reference to this on WP, except in coding for the flagicon (such coding im not familiar with). isnt this just an internal abbreviation for the nation? if so, it should be removed from the disambig.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:10, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Internal abbreviation? What do you mean? Guettarda (talk) 05:31, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * im sorry, i should have been clearer. by internal, i meant an abbreviation used in Wikipedia when naming a flagicon for the nation, and maybe other places, but not used in the articles on the subject. in other words, a WP reader would not read this abbreviation anywhere in an article on the nation, and its not used in the real world to designate the nation (ie airport codes, olympic committee abbreviations, iso 9000, etc) does that make sense?Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Photo request: Caribbean Airlines headquarters
For those of you near Piarco Airport, would you mind photographing the headquarters of Caribbean Airlines? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 21:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Trinidad and Tobago articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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We would like to ask you to review the Trinidad and Tobago articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

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For the Wikipedia 1.0 editorial team, SelectionBot 23:45, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing
I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 21:08, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Trinidad and Tobago will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Trinidad and Tobago's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 23:28, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Featured list removal candidates/List of calypso-like genres/archive1
A featured list, List of calypso-like genres, has been merged into another list by, so I am proposing for the sake of tidying up the paperwork, as it were, that its FL status be removed. I have no opinion on whether the merger was a good idea. Please join in the discussion at the FLRC page. BencherliteTalk 19:01, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Misleading Trinidad and Tobago article Divali Complex/El Socorro Lambert
I don't know if this is the right place to do this, if someone can provide some guidance or take the appropriate action I would appriciate it. The article Divali Complex/El Socorro Lambert (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divali_Complex/El_Socorro_Lambert) is terrible, please take a look at my comments in the talk section to see the issues I spotted in the first section of it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Divali_Complex/El_Socorro_Lambert). Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.45.149.119 (talk) 03:06, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Trinbago? Administrations or governments?
Could someone interested and/or qualified please review the List of Trinbago Administrations article and the articles linked from it? Should the titles read "administrations" or "governments"? Should "Trinbago" be in a title? Please discuss at Talk:List of Trinbago Administrations. —  AjaxSmack  00:40, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

GAS AND OIL
THE GAS&OIL T&T DOES NOT BENIFIT THE GREATER PART OF THE POPULATION COMPARED TO SAUDI ARABIA WHERE EVERY MAN WOMAN&CHILD GETS A ROYALTY CHECK EACH MONTH THIS SHOULD BE THE SAME IN T&T.THE MULTI-NATIONALS INSTEAD ENJOY THIS.THEREFORE THE POVERTY RATE CLIMBS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.59.21.198 (talk) 01:34, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Sir Ralph James Woodford
I was surprised that Trinidad's longest-serving Governor did not already have an article, so created one. But I am not at all a Trinidad specialist, so have left it now for those who are to fill it out - I would think that major sections on his influence on Trinidad society and his policies on emancipation and on class are particularly needed. Davidships (talk) 14:25, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Independent Liberal Party (Trinidad and Tobago)
Notable? I came across it during new page patrol, the creator is notable but I don't know anything about the party. I thought someone here could judge for me. S.G.(GH) ping! 12:39, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Requested move discussion underway at Talk:Eric Williams
Greetings. A request has been made to remove Eric Williams from being the primary topic of this name. Please feel free to weigh in on the discussion. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:31, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

George Boysie Anderson/ Calypso Saxphonist
Cecil /Duke of Iron did play professionally with his Brothers Boysie played on most of his releases to set the record straight. some of your information is incorrect,they also took part in the labor day parade when it first started here,they were the pioneers of calyspo in America.Check it the Labor Day parade started in Manhattan.

Clifton George Anderson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1001:B016:DC71:AE22:BFF:FE96:B6C1 (talk) 03:58, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014
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Languages in censuses and Race and ethnicity in censuses
Pleas add information about this country to this articles.--Kaiyr (talk) 09:33, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!


Hello everyone!

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

T&T squad needed
2004_CONCACAF_Men%27s_Pre-Olympic_Tournament_squads All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:08, 4 June 2015 (UTC).

Trini?
From Nov 2005 to March 2009 there was an article "Trini" about the slang term for a person from Trinidad: see this version. There was discussion on the talk page and it was made into a redirect to Trinidad in March 2009. The term doesn't seem to be mentioned on that page now, if it ever was.

A new stub has been created at Trini (toponym). I've moved it to Trini (demonym) because I think that's the correct term, and made a hatnote on Trinidad for now, but experts might like to consider what the Primary Topic for "Trini" should be. Over to you: I'm just a stubs-sorter and WikiGnome. Pam D  15:47, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Regional corporations and municipalities of Trinidad and Tobago
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Regional corporations and municipalities of Trinidad and Tobago. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:19, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I added a thought there. Kind regards, Grueslayer 14:47, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
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RfC on election/referendum naming format
An RfC on moving the year from the end to the start of article titles (e.g. South African general election, 2019 to 2019 South African general election) has been reopened for further comment, including on whether a bot could be used move the articles if it closed in favour of the change: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (government and legislation). Cheers, Number   5  7  15:41, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

2018 Trinidad and Tobago floods
Someone started an article about the 2018 Trinidad and Tobago floods. I think it's a significant event that could really use help. Image uploads to Commons would be helpful too. Guettarda (talk) 14:30, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Any specific spots you want photographed? I won't be in TT before Xmas but I got friends in the north and the south. Kind regards, Grueslayer 15:00, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't really know. Guettarda (talk) 17:40, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

History of British Trinidad and Tobago
A new category, Category:History of British Trinidad and Tobago, has been added to most TT history pages up to 1962. I have concerns about the use of this category, and have created a discussion at Category talk:History of British Trinidad and Tobago. Please join the discussion. Guettarda (talk) 15:08, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:City of San Fernando for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:City of San Fernando is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:City of San Fernando until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 13:28, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

What's the name of our anthem?
David Rudder pointed out that forged is the first word of the anthem, but Wikipedia said Forged from the Love of Liberty is the name of the anthem, and has since 2003. When I arrived here, I thought it strange that I have never heard the national anthem called anything other than "the National Anthem", but I figured (naively) that whoever created the article probably knew better than I did. I'd ask them, if they were still around, but the page was created by an IP.

After 16 years of Wikipedia saying it's so, it's almost true. I'm sure the internet is full of sources that follow us. But if you look at the people who should know, it's the the national anthem. If you look at this article by Hamid Ghany, it's clear that the name is simply the National Anthem of Trinidad and Tobago. This page, from NALIS, also only calls it the National Anthem.

I've created a section at Talk:Forged_from_the_Love_of_Liberty, and based on what people say, I will either start a move discussion, or just BOLDly move it. Please weigh in over there. Guettarda (talk) 03:43, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

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Draft:Tropical Storm Gonzalo (2020)
Tropical Storm Gonzalo moved near the country today - I hope everyone in the region is safe from the storm and the ongoing Covid pandemic. A user has created a draft for the article. Given that locals might be on here, I wanted to point out the draft, if anyone wanted to add some content (with sources, of course). A local perspective would be appreciated, as it might not show up in international news sources. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:18, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Music of the Lesser Antilles Featured article review
I have nominated Music of the Lesser Antilles for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  01:48, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Miss Trinidad and Tobago World 1988
I was surprised to see someone called Mintee Narine listed as Miss Trinidad and Tobago to Miss World 1988. In fact, the winner that year was Wendy "Jaye-Q" Baptiste, who went on to the international Miss World pageant and got the fourth highest score in the swimsuit segment. She later went on to become a force in the TnT media, having her own columns, including Surfacing and Brew in the Trinidad Guardian, and her own television show, The Jhaye-Q Show, on CNC3. There has never been a Miss Trinidad and Tobago called Mintee Narine. And there is a saying, once a TnT queen, always a TnT queen. So please correct your data and give this queen her rightful place among her cohorts. 190.93.10.168 (talk) 18:50, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Most-viewed stub article within this Wikiproject
Trinbago Knight Riders	Total 18,274	Daily 609	Stub--Coin945 (talk) 15:56, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Temple in the Sea
Hi everyone,

I'm not completely sure where to ask, but I wanted to see if anyone was interested in improving an article with me. I learned about the temple in the sea and became fascinated with the story behind its creation. Is anyone interested in helping out in the development of the article? Im still slightly new to developing content on wikipedia, so any help would be appreciated! The article is Here. -RealPharmer3 (talk) 01:14, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

RfC
An RfC is open at Talk:Queen of Trinidad and Tobago. Please comment there to generate a clear consensus. Thank you.  Peter Ormond &#128172;  14:39, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

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This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Index of Trinidad and Tobago–related articles
I noticed that has started prodding these kinds of articles with the following rationale:

I think their rationale makes sense, but I also think there may be some value to the Index of Trinidad and Tobago–related articles for a project-related purpose of trying to understand the scope of what we are working on. So I'm proposing that we move this to a subpage of this WikiProject, since I don't think it has a place any more in mainspace. Guettarda (talk) 14:30, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Kind regards, Grueslayer 14:45, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Support. I think this is a great idea. Fully support the transition.
 * Done: WikiProject Trinidad and Tobago/Index of Trinidad and Tobago–related articles. Guettarda (talk) 16:47, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Much more useful for understanding the scope of the project is the dynamic list at Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Trinidad and Tobago articles by quality statistics (which currently has about about 2,800 articles) than the old, manual, index (which lists just under a thousand). – Uanfala (talk) 14:59, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Queen of Trinidad and Tobago
A discussion about the article Queen of Trinidad and Tobago is open at Talk:Queen of Ghana. Please comment there to generate a clear consensus. Thanks.  Peter Ormond &#128172;  08:36, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Census question
Hi all, I've been trying to knock redlinks off the list at Article Requests and I had a question about the Trinidad and Tobago Census. I was reading the cso.gov.tt website (Central Statistical Office) and they provide a lovely history of the census, but they mention that the most recent one was in 2000. Is that accurate? Has there really been no census in 22 years? Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks! Patr2016 (talk) 22:32, 16 December 2022 (UTC)