Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Florida/Archive 1

Infobox
Ack. Yet another project using these stupid too-big infoboxes. --SPUI (T - C) 21:49, 1 July 2006 (UTC)


 * How exactly are they factually inaccurate? What would you do to change them?  You didn't mention any solution.  --Holderca1 18:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * We already have infoboxes - see State Road 482. --SPUI (T - C) 02:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, but the ones we already have are no smaller. The example you provied is for a road that is only 8 miles long, of course it is going to be smaller.  --Holderca1 16:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually they are smaller, as yours has a separate cities line, separate lines for counties, a separate direction line, separate lines for hidden routes, and the legend. --SPUI (T - C) 23:40, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * So it has more useful information, I had thought this was an encyclopedia. Actually, the information that you mentioned is more important than the junctions, afterall, people travel highways not to intersect other highways, but to travel somewhere such as cities or counties.  The hidden routes can just as easily be removed.  --Holderca1 14:51, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * An infobox is supposed to present only general information; details are for the article. Cities will be in the infobox as part of the junctions. --SPUI (T - C) 19:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Then shouldn't the junctions be removed? It just seems that in the infobox you linked to, keeps the more specific information and leaves out the general information. Just revised my original version, see State Road 87  --Holderca1 20:03, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The junctions are general information, especially in a grid-based state like Florida. --SPUI (T - C) 20:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

(indent reset) Well, the number of junctions a road has will cause the ultimate size of the infobox, an infobox for A1A with all the junctions listed would be huge. --Holderca1 20:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * True, but it would be less informative. We've been having this debate in California for months too. JohnnyBGood    t   c  VIVA! 20:56, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * So don't list all junctions. See the box on Florida's Turnpike. --SPUI (T - C) 07:08, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * So would listing junctions with just Interstates and U.S. Highways in the infobox and listing the junctions with other State Roads in the main article be agreeable? --Holderca1 15:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * No reason to define it like that - just several major "defining" junctions. --SPUI (T - C) 16:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * That is just very ambiguous. Obviously all interstates are major junctions.  Hidden designations shouldn't be included in the infobox.  --Holderca1 17:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Alt. US 17(Jacksonville): Rail-Stub?
Why was the former Alternate US 17 in Jacksonville page given a railroad-realted stub? Is it that close to the Jacksonville Amtrak/CSX Railroad yards? DanTD 10:01, 30 July 2006 (EST)


 * Could you link to the article? I was unable to find it.  --Holderca1 16:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Florida road articles up for deletion
Just thought I'd notify the members of this project that 30 or so Florida road articles have been proposed for deletion at Articles for deletion/Route 0120 (Florida). Feel free to comment if you wish. BryanG(talk) 04:17, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

State route naming conventions poll/Part2
Your state is invited to participate in discussions for its highway naming convention. Please feel free to participate in this discussion. If you already have a convention that follows the State Name Type xx designation, it is possible to request an exemption as well. Thanks! --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs)  00:20, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Florida SR Userbox?
Since there's already a userbox for New York State Route projects, as you can see here:

How about one for Florida State and/or County Roads?

DanTD 18:08, 8 October 2006 (EST)


 * How's about this?


 * Aerobird 00:08, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I think I've got it working right now... - Aerobird 00:15, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


 * So far, so good. I just wish I could add a route number, but this will do. DanTD 15:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Something like this? --Holderca1 15:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly. It works now, but for some reason, it didn't work when I tried it before. Are you working on an article for Florida SR 35 by any chance? DanTD 16:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I just made the change to the userbox for it to do that. No, I just picked a random number.  --Holderca1 16:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Project directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Route 309A (Florida) Afd
I thought this project might want to know about this. Route 309A (Florida) is up for AfD (See Discussion at Articles for deletion/Route 309A (Florida) (second nomination)0. But it's a FORMER state route even though it's still a real highway.  It's now designated County Road 308B.  I suggested in the AfD it be renamed as such.  Maybe someone here might be interested in providing input. --Oakshade 05:08, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Multi-state(FL-GA-SC) 121 help requested
As some of you may know, I've wanted to make a page for Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina State Roads 121 for quite a while, and I'm going to need all the help I can get for it, since I've only been on the segment of it between Lebanon Junction, Florida and Williston, Florida, and the rest I know about from maps and dead websites. One question I've got(besides who wants to join in on this article), is should it be one page covering all three states, like some multi-state road pages in New England, or should there be three different pages for thee Route 121's? DanTD 16:41, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 15:59, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

SC Completion List Screw-Up
Something's wrong with the WikiProject Florida State Roads/Completion list. I can't get the disambiguation of Route 202 to stop going to U.S. Route 202. It's supposed to go to List of highways numbered 202. DanTD 20:51, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Florida County Roads in US Road Category
Any reason why roads like Levy County Road 337 are still listed in the US Highways in Florida category? I thought I deleted the thing, but it's still there. DanTD 16:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Deleting clean-up tags
Tell me something, do articles like Florida State Road 320 really need clean-up tags anymore? I added a detail or two, that made wonder if it should be removed. DanTD 21:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The rationale for that article needing cleanup is that it is a stub. It should be tagged as a stub, not cleanup if that is the case.  --Holderca1 21:52, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

County Road Task Force
A new task force has been created to improve the county road articles. See WP:FLCR --Holderca1 21:52, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Reminder from USRD
In response to a few issues that came up, we are giving a reminder to all state highway wikiprojects and task forces:


 * 1) Each project needs to remain aware of developments at WT:USRD and subpages to ensure that each project is aware of decisions / discussions that affect that project. It is impossible to notify every single project about every single discussion that may affect it. Therefore, it is the state highway wikiproject's responsiblity to monitor discussions.
 * 2) If a project does not remain aware of such developments and complains later, then there is most likely nothing USRD can do about it.
 * 3) USRD, in most to nearly all cases, will not interfere with a properly functioning state highway wikiproject. All projects currently existing are "properly functioning" for the purposes mentioned here. All task forces currently existing are not "properly functioning" (that is why they are task forces). Departments of USRD (for example, MTF, shields, assessment, INNA) may have specific requirements for the state highway wikiprojects, but complaints regarding those need to be taken up with those departments.
 * 4) However, this is a reminder that USRD standards need to be followed by the state highway wikiprojects, regardless of the age of the wikiproject.

Regards, Rschen7754 (T C) 05:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Meetup/Miami 2.
The meetup in Miami was originally planned for August/September, but we'll probably be having it around January. Feel free to participate in the planning (exact date/place not decided upon) if you're interested. · AndonicO Talk 23:15, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

U.S. Route 19 in Florida
I'm currently working on an article for a state-specific U.S. Route 19 article for Florida. Here's the sandbox. Does anybody else want to collaborate on it? DanTD (talk) 19:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme
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Old-style shields
I'm a member of the shields task force at USRD and although I usually focus on Maryland shields, I thought I'd do the old-style U.S. highway shields used in Florida prior to 1993 just for fun. Here they are:



-Jeff (talk) 03:34, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

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Project demotion
This subproject of WikiProject U.S. Roads was recently nominated for demotion to a task force, due to a perceived lack of activity by regular editors. The result of that nomination was to keep this project as is. (See WT:USRD and WT:USRD/SUB for further information.) Participants of this project are encouraged to add their username to the participants list, make improvements to articles, and participate in discussions at USRD. If this project's article editing/improvement activity does not increase, it could be renominated for demotion in the future. --LJ (talk) 22:43, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

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RFC on coordinates in highway articles
There is currently a discussion taking place at WT:HWY regarding the potential use of coordinates in highway articles. Your input is welcomed. --Rschen7754 01:54, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Proposed restructuring of USRD
There is a proposal to demote all state highway WikiProjects to task forces; see WT:USRD. --Rschen7754 05:07, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Stub Template for County Roads?
Is there a stub template for county roads in Florida? Allen (talk) 22:49, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No. The stub-sorting project has rarely created stub templates to classify articles under the state-level.  Imzadi 1979  →   22:51, 22 January 2012 (UTC)