Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads/New York/News

Great Newsletter
I was very happy to receive a newsletter like this. Not only does it contain information, but also links to various elements of this project that we sometimes have to search for. And, thank you for the welcome. I'm wondering if there might be an "in-between" delivery option: Short of putting the full newsletter in our talk pages, and more than just a simple link to it, why not something like a banner, with the major headlines of the newsletter? It probably wouldn't contain all of the links the full newsletter would (a few key ones, of course) but could be eye-catching enough that when someone visits our user talk pages for some other reason, might be drawn to it (without having to read the whole thing). Perhaps later on I could take some time to prepare such a banner for the first one and see how it's received. Fwgoebel 17:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I know what you mean. I'll whip up something in the next few days so I can work out the bugs before the January issue comes out. -- T M F Let's Go Mets - Stats 08:35, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. See Issue 2 for the result. -- T M F Let's Go Mets - Stats 18:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I like it, and it's the sort of thing I had in mind - enough enticement to go look at the copy, but not filling up a user talk page so much.Fwgoebel 20:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * If anybody here is interested, outside of some unbuilt parkways, the only New York State Highway on Long Island that still doesn't have it's own page is New York State Route 25D. I'm still doing some work on it right now. DanTD 01:33, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Routes 5 & 20 Construction Project
"The road will either be narrowed or have lanes removed in an attempt to slow traffic passing through the village."

How is narrowing major roads like NY 5 and US 20 considered an "Upgrade?" This just goes to show that NYSDOT is moving backwards when it comes to road improvements. This kind of stupidity makes me hate the fact that I'm forced to live in Florida. DanTD 01:49, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The route assumes surface village streets in Avon and elsewhere, yet the speed limit signs aren't sufficient. It's likely that the area is residential, or even modestly commercial, and slower vehicle traffic would make it safer for pedestrians and cyclists, not to mention the children and pets along the route. Remember, US 20 and NY 5 aren't limited access freeways everywhere. It's possible that a route bypassing the village may not be feasible, or acceptable to the community. Fwgoebel 03:39, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


 * A bit of local color to this: I went down the stretch of 5 and 20 talked about in this article about a year ago and I was shocked at how wide the road was for how slow the posted limit is (30 for most of the village). The road is four lanes wide in the project area, and is a real PITA for anyone to try to get across on foot. Frank is correct: about 85% of the project area, with the exception of a block or two near the Livonia, Avon and Lakeville railroad crossing in the center of town, is residential (including a huge traffic circle in the village center) and I believe that this change will evidently be better for Avon. As it is now, cars entering the village from the east, most likely coming off of I-390, can easily top 50 as they come into the village from the farmland outside of it. And a bypass really doesn't make sense for this area as Avon is one of a number of communities right in a row along 5 and 20, situated in between Caledonia a few miles to the west and Lima, West Bloomfield and Bloomfield to the east. Plus, I don't think Business 5/Business 20 has quite the same ring to it. =) -- T M F Let's Go Mets - Stats 05:13, 16 January 2007 (UTC)