Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States/Archive 14

Discussion of an editorial from The Washington Post on the reliable sources noticeboard
There is a discussion on the reliability of "Open doors, slamming gates: The tumultuous politics of U.S. immigration policy", a 2017 editorial authored by Marc Fisher and published in The Washington Post, on the reliable sources noticeboard. If you are interested, please participate at. —  Newslinger  talk   03:29, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi there,

I was looking to expand the page for Ticketcity and was redirected here when selecting their "talk" page. I noticed that much of the information was missing citations, and I investigated. I found that some of this information has no credible source often doubling back to the company's personal website as the only source of this info. (Ex. # of staff cannot be found online. -Also, the Aug. 8th 1998 date for their website launch is not documented anywhere other than their company site. ) Should this info be deleted if not verifiable? Thanks for your time,

NathanPeters406 (talk) 22:32, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Federal election charts in State articles


I recently noticed that the State articles have had multiple Federal elections charts added to them. I am not sure the State articles should feature these Federal charts and believe most should be moved to the main articles on elections per state. These charts are causing a few format problems ( like text sandwiched). I believe if any chart should be in State articles - despite that WP:PROSE is preferred -  it should be a chart related to state level elections at best. I propose moving charts like at Massachusetts to Politics of Massachusetts. What do others think about this? --Moxy (talk) 16:08, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I agree with these points. Carlstak (talk) 16:17, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I agree too. I tried to trim the lists at Massachusetts about a month ago and was reverted; another editor raised similar concerns at Talk:Virginia. My main concern, besides the sandwich issues, is that we can show all this stuff at more specific articles per Summary style. Those election map/county chart things are often too specific as they focus on one election in one year, and the gov/pres election results can be shown using just the last few decades - we don't need to go back to the Korean War. Another option might be collapsible lists.  Alexius  Horatius  22:17, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for bringing this to the WikiProject, I'm the editor who raised concerns at Talk:Virginia. I fully second AlexiusHoratius in ranking my concerns with the charts first as being contrary to a summary style on these overview articles, and then for introducing formatting issues like sandwiching text. And I agree with Moxy that including the info in the prose is best. I think adding them to each state's page is a bit of main article fixation, where a user has spent time creating these graphics, and doesn't want to see them buried on subarticles, even if that's a more apropriate place. On Virginia, I tried to split the baby by trimming the gubenatorial and presidential charts to 1992, and using Template:Stack to get them to stay vertical above one another, but my first preference is to move these charts to either the Politics of (insert state) article, or perhaps Elections in (state).-- Patrick, o Ѻ ∞ 20:46, 20 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Go for it. GoodDay (talk) 21:45, 20 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't it be possible just to make them /  in order to conserve space? Mélencron (talk) 21:42, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * This would be a good idea even if most think it's best to move.--Moxy (talk) 01:30, 22 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Also agree that this is too much detail for state articles. Number   5  7  21:44, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Also agree that this is too much detail. Bondegezou (talk) 13:21, 22 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I noted this discussion at WikiProject Elections because I'm curious about where (if anywhere) this data should belong longterm. Sounds like users agree with moving the presidential/gubernatorial vote total tables to a subarticle, but should they then be expanded back from the 1950s to earlier elections? What about third parties or independents? Should they be converted to an official template like Template:Compact election box? I've been looking for an equivilant to these charts nationally, and only found the article List of United States presidential elections by popular vote margin. Additionally, I wanted to specifically bring up the SVG box charts of largest counties that can be seen in the screenshot Moxy provided. I think they belong solely on articles like 2016 United States presidential election in (state), but maybe on a states' Elections page if the 2016 election is discussed in the text.-- Patrick, o Ѻ ∞ 02:16, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Template talk:Demographics of the United States
You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Demographics of the United States.  Right Cow Left Coast  (Moo) 02:02, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Spelling argument in Charles Martin Hall
There has been a discussion on how to spell the word "aluminum"/"aluminium" at Talk:Charles Martin Hall. It will be greatly appreciated if you see the discussion and provide your opinions.--R8R (talk) 12:29, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Village pump (idea lab)
You are invited to join the discussion at Village pump (idea lab). We are designing a bot to do auto-assessment (among other tasks) and would appreciate your feedback. Qzekrom (talk) 01:25, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Demographics of the United States template discussion
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Does any/every game that is made by mostly American employees, in the U.S., and/or with the company being American belong in this WikiProject?
Hello, guys!

At Talk:Undertale there is a question over whether the video game Undertale, developed largely by a single American (Toby Fox) who resides in the U.S., should be tagged with this WikiProject. I understand members WikiProject Japan made declarations at this page that video games made by mostly Japanese employees, in Japan, and/or with the company being Japanese are a part of that project.

Also there are other cultural media such as films which have their own projects: In fact American film has a joint task force between WPUS and WPFilm: WikiProject Film/American cinema task force, and there is also one for American comics.

The question is whether the same applies for American video games; should every game that is American be a part of this project, or only those in which the country of production is a truly important aspect.

WhisperToMe (talk) 04:31, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

RfC on restructuring the Michael Jackson article with respect to child sexual abuse allegations
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Michael Jackson. A permalink for it is here. Restructuring has been suggested in light of the recent Leaving Neverland documentary. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 13:26, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

New article on the Engagements Clause of the Constitution
I have created a stubby new article on the Engagements Clause of the Constitution of the United States. Naturally it needs further work. Michael Hardy (talk) 01:30, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Flags in U.S. city infoboxes
Recently, flags were readded to multiple U.S. city articles (Los Angeles and New York City, namely) citing MOS. My argument is that: I’d like to see the community's opinion once and for all of what would be preferred, as there is an overall mixture of both with and without flags on U.S. city articles.  IWI  ( chat ) 16:03, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) The Manual of Style is not mandatory
 * 2) The cited guideline itself uses the word "may" in italics, suggesting it is optional
 * 3) The flags don’t add to the article in an encyclopedic way
 * 4) The flags bring unnecessary attention to the parameters (city and state)


 * Flags are an option of the infobox templates. You should not remove the flags without a consensus on a given article's talk page. — Maile  (talk) 16:35, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Surely that must mean the opposite too: they shouldn’t be added either without consensus.  IWI  ( chat ) 22:04, 28 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment - Simply, "should flags be permitted in infoboxes". Rich discussions have already occured at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline/Archive 3, Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons/Archive 14, and Village pump (proposals)/Archive 118, though no consensus was reached.  Does this can really need another kick?  Magnolia677 (talk) 21:41, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * If editors feel inclined to edit war over something, the only way to stop it is to attempt to gain a consensus.  IWI  ( chat ) 17:24, 5 March 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't get why a RFC was required in this case, considering this itself is a community talk page and no discussions were held prior. THE NEW  Immortal  Wizard  (chat) 18:18, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Portal deletion discussion
Several portals are up for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Alhambra, California. They are for smaller cities and communities, mostly in the US. ɱ (talk) 16:36, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Writing article on an act
I'm going to begin writing an article on the National Imagery and Mapping Agency Act of 1966. I would appreciate any tips, advice, or guidance. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluebirds030492 (talk • contribs) 23:06, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

US Justices
Hello fellow editors. A number of articles in Template:Lists of US Justices are poorly sourced. I wanted to bring this up since it is connected to this WikiProject. THE NEW  Immortal  Wizard  (chat) 18:14, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

State legislators in town/city infoboxes
I propose that the name of the state legislator representing the city/town in question should be included in the infobox, next to where the city/town's mayor would be listed. Please share your thoughts on this.

Deontologie jurisdiction jelly mise end discord a because last haute instance? Momedzo75 (talk) 14:25, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Why wasn't RfC Federal election charts in State articles advertised on target articles?
The RfC above Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_United_States wasn't even posted on Talk:Washington (state). I reverted it there and suggest reverting it else where. If you're going to make changes across so many articles, you need way more participation. Advertise it on the affected talk pages.Also, it took me about 3 seconds to fix the sandwiching "problem". Seriously, guys. What is up here? --Dennis Bratland (talk) 20:20, 27 March 2019 (UTC)




 * Sandwich of text is not fixed in anyway. So what do you object to about the RfC that involved 9 people all agreeing on the main point and was advertised in many places? What did they get wrong? Do you think federal stats not in pros should be on state articles and that text sandwiching on many pages is not a problem?  Personaly I think an RfC should have been made before spaming this all over not the other way around. Was added all over then reverted by many all over thus we had  this talk to confirm why most editors reverted the new additions.--Moxy (talk) 22:44, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * What text is sandwiched? A sandwich is two pieces of bread with something in the middle. There’s nothing to the left of the text in that section. Even if there was, you don’t delete content wholesale. Nobody even tried to fix the formatting. It wasn’t even a real RfC. A neutral question is one of the minimum requirements. And notifying affected parties. If you want to do this, you have to try again, and first do due diligence. Discuss the problem and attempt solutions. The MOS guidelines aren’t some inviolable policy that justifies such extreme action. —Dennis Bratland (talk) 23:26, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Noting was deleted ...was moved as per the RfC that was advertised here at the parent project and the related noticeboards. The box's still sandwiches the text to the left fragmenting sentence structure for many people....even on my 60 inch TV. So now that that is clear what real objections are there?  Do you want us to make another RFC see if another 100% of the people agree again? Do you believe the argument that these Federal related charts should be in state articles even after all in the small RfC would change? Thus far your reasoning for reverting the decision of a RFC doesn't hold much merit. ..as no content was lost and the accessibility problem re-implemented on this top-level article.--Moxy (talk) 23:50, 27 March 2019 (UTC)




 * MOS:SANDWICH says "a­void sand­wich­ing text be­tween two im­ages or charts that face each oth­er; or be­tween an im­age and in­fo­box, nav­i­ga­tion tem­plate, or sim­i­lar". It doesn't mention anything like this. You're complaining about two tables side by side. The apparent problem in the image you posted is an artifact of viewing the article in a large font in a narrow web browser window. Anything can be made to look bad with the a given set of defaults on a given display. On mine the text column looks fine, it's much wider than the two tables.And that's all fixable. Change the text size of the tables. Align them stacked. Consider keeping only one of the two tables. Arrange them horizontally across the bottom of the section. Options abound. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 02:47, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes yes you got it lets bold that last part or sim­i­lar ....So what about the main point of the RfC? All think they should be moved.....have an oppnion on that??--Moxy (talk) 11:23, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Related task force
I created a new task force for WikiProject Numismatics focusing on American currency. The task force, WikiProject Numismatics/American currency task force, is still starting up and does not have many members. If anyone is interested in helping, feel free to do so. - ZLEA  T \ C 15:25, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

RfC on disambiguation of TV articles
An RfC has been opened at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television). Additional participation is welcomed. -- Netoholic @ 18:59, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

U.S. Census Bureau block maps taken down?
I'm trying to get a PDF map of Mission Bend, Texas CDP (as of 2010) but it seems the U.S. Census Bureau took down its old map sites and redirects to one that only has maps of incorporated places.

Maybe someone here knows the census site better than me, but is there another place to get PDF maps of census-designated places (as of the 2010 census)? WhisperToMe (talk) 02:56, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!
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Two database articles need your help
Hi--I'm hoping some of you can help with beefing up the articles for African Origins and Voyages: The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database. Thank you so much! Drmies (talk) 16:34, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Donald Trump for deletion
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Nomination of Portal:Maine for deletion
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Reward board offer to get all U.S. Presidents to Featured
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Nomination of Music of the United States for review
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New user request response about president rabbit attack
 Blue Rasberry  (talk)  14:47, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Talk:Jimmy_Carter_rabbit_incident

Nomination of Portal:Delaware for deletion
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Discussion of possible interest to this project
A discussion regarding inclusion of recent news reports regarding political activity about abortion in Waskom, Texas is taking place at Talk:Waskom, Texas. Your participation is encouraged. John from Idegon (talk) 04:17, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

someone rang my phone
i wonder who he is +19196263815 so confused?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.147.33.51 (talk) 09:14, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

On whether Waskom, Texas should mention the abortion ban
Please see Talk:Waskom,_Texas WhisperToMe (talk) 08:46, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Discussion of interest
Members of this project may be interested in this discussion. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:16, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Category:American cattlemen has been nominated for discussion
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RfC of interest
The RfC located here may be of interest to the members of this project. Beyond My Ken (talk) 14:55, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Merger of duplicate CSA articles
Would appreciate feedback from anyone who has experience with U.S. census related articles. Merging duplicate article Rocky Mount-Wilson CSA into Rocky Mount-Wilson-Roanoke Rapids CSA. Can confirm that the article ending in Roanoke Rapids is correctly named via the census website, but beyond that there appear to be differences in the respective articles about what counties and towns are in the CSA that need to be reconciled. — aegreen (talk • email) 15:14, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * , I would be willing to help you with this process, as it does appear this is a good candidate for a merger. I see that you have created the discussion for the merger per WP:MERGE. If, after a week or so there is no opposition to this merger, we can follow the process outlined on the aforementioned page to complete the merge.


 * As far as reconciling what counties and towns belong in the CSA, I feel it is best to use the definition of the CSA from the US Census Bureau, and go from there. Let me know if you have any questions or other concerns. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Edits) 22:48, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Willy - believe the most recent CSA map from the U.S. Census website is from the 2012 economic census. Will circle back in a week to move forward. — aegreen (talk • email) 19:58, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

2019 El Paso shooting
Perhaps a member of this project could have a look at the importance rating for this article. Given that mass shootings occur with a depressing regularity, I doubt that this particular one merits a "high importance" rating. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 07:20, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Requested move
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:List of people pardoned or granted clemency by the president of the United States that would benefit from your opinion. Please come and help!  Paine Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there  14:58, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Notre Dame mascot the Leprechaun
The Leprechaun mascot was the brain child of the 1960 cheerleading team captains John Bernat & Jim Fiore when Mike the Irish Terrier became to old. It didn't take us long to come up with the little green man because what is a more recognized symbol of Ireland. Over the years Jim and I never received any recognition for our creation but I just wanted to let you know how the Leprechaun came to be at Notre Dame.

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RfC of interest
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Proposed move - change title of "Veterans benefits for post-traumatic stress disorder in the United States"
It has been proposed that Veterans benefits for post-traumatic stress disorder in the United States be renamed and moved to Veterans benefits for posttraumatic stress disorder in the United States. Please see my rationale for changing the title (removing the hyphen in "post-traumatic" is the only change proposed) at Talk:Veterans benefits for post-traumatic stress disorder in the United States. Please discuss on that Talk page too. Thanks! - Mark D Worthen PsyD  (talk)  (I am a man. The traditional male pronouns are fine.) 16:31, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Neutrality and original research issues in articles related to Medicaid estate recovery
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Positions on Jerusalem
I added the WikiProject's template to the talk page of Positions on Jerusalem but it was removed. I think that it's on the scope of the project because it has two sections, "United States" and "United States Embassy", related to the United States. Do you think that it should be re-added? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rupert loup (talk • contribs) 00:10, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

GAR Notification
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Renaming "United States housing bubble"
Hello. The article name is too broad and does not seem to name a specific event. By far the most popular proper name for this event I have seen is what I believe the article should be renamed, "The Great United States Housing Bubble" This title would paint an accurate and definable name for a singular event and focuses on the magnitude and extent of the event. It would greatly help students and researchers to be able to find information about this event without being confused as to weather or not it is about housing bubbles throughout the history of the United States, and it would settle misunderstandings as to what the event is called. This is just a suggestion, however. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.111.221.222 (talk • contribs) 23:26, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Request for comment on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act article
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Popular pages
Greetings, for this WPs Assessment page, I added a section with link to WikiProject United States/Popular pages. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 18:59, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Same river different names

 * The North Canadian River is the same as the Beaver River (Oklahoma) that changes names at the Oklahoma state line. It seems this could be covered with alternate names instead of two different articles on the same river with interchangeable names.


 * See: Talk:Beaver River (Oklahoma). Otr500 (talk) 09:43, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

External links update
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Would you peer review Veterans benefits for post-traumatic stress disorder in the United States?
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RfC on reliability of The Epoch Times
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New merge proposal
Merge proposal for sports complex Air Force Academy Cadet Fieldhouse — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legend-dary (talk • contribs) 02:32, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Wikipedia:US State Portal Metrics for deletion
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Category for Plantations
I have been working on the article, List of plantations in North Carolina. I found that there are two categories for plantations: Category:Plantations in North Carolina and Category:Plantation houses in North Carolina. This same structure is repeated at Category:Plantations in the United States by state and Category:Plantation houses in the United States by state, as well as in each of the states. I looked at other states, also, and saw a similar pattern. I tried to find all the plantation articles in North Carolina and put them in one category, but then I though this might be something that should be discussed in the United State project.

It doesn't seem to be necessary to have categories for both "Plantation houses" and "Plantations". A plantation is not a plantation without a house. The articles that exist talk about the house, its history, the people who built or lived at the house, and the land and crops on the plantation.

I would like to recommend that the "Category:Plantations in state" and "Category:Plantations in the United States by state" be used instead of "Category:Plantation houses in state" and "Category:Plantation houses in the United States by state". I apologize if this has been discussed before and I am not aware of it or if there is some other reason for keeping dual categories. This would also make it much easier to map all of the plantations under one category. This would require some work to move the existing plantation articles to one category for each state and to delete the other category. It might also be useful to add a U.S. and State History categories, as well as History of slavery categories, to the Plantation categories.

User:G._Moore talk 04:04, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

2019 US Banknote Contest
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Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
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We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:25, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Requested move
Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Mikha'il Na'ima, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, comrade waddie96 ★ (talk) 09:45, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Ernst C Bechly
Hello, can this group review Draft:Ernst C Bechly for inclusion? This has been pending for over three months. I thank you for your consideration. Eyeze (talk) 22:24, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Hammerax up for deletion again
Serial WP:AFD. Question of WP:Notability and WP:Before. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 11:36, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Second nomination
 * Second nomination

African American task force
FYI, there's a request to create a new task force at WikiProject Council/Proposals/African-American task force -- 67.70.33.184 (talk) 13:29, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Chick-fil-A same-sex marriage controversy
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Chick-fil-A same-sex marriage controversy. - MrX 🖋 21:57, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Mike Hatton
Hi, can this group review Draft:Mike Hatton? Thank You all. Powertolife (talk) 10:40, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Content dispute at Skowhegan, Maine
The input of editors regarding a content dispute at Skowhegan, Maine would be appreciated. Please see Talk:Skowhegan, Maine. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:08, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Requested move
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:18, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Assistant Secretary for International Affairs -- poor, vague article
The article Assistant Secretary for International Affairs needs significant improvement. The article title doesn't list which agency this position is a member of, the introduction says it's a DHS position, and the body mentions Theodore J. Garrish, who is the Energy Department's assistant secretary for international affairs (a separate position, and he never served in the DHS).

Also, there are multiple "assistant secretaries for international affairs" throughout the federal government, not just the DHS or DoE. In short, this article is a mess and needs improvement -- is might need to become a disambiguation page or be moved. --1990&#39;sguy (talk) 00:05, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

New bot to remove completed infobox requests
Hello! I have recently created a bot to remove completed infobox requests and am sending this message to WikiProject United States since the project currently has a backlogged infobox request category. Details about the task can be found at Bots/Requests for approval/PearBOT 2, but in short it removes all infobox requests from articles with an infobox, once a week. To sign up, reply with and tell me if any special considerations are required for the Wikiproject. For example: if only a specific infobox should be detected, such as infobox journal for WikiProject Academic Journals; or if an irregularly named infobox such as starbox begin should be detected. Feel free to ask if you have any questions!

Sent on behalf of Trialpears (talk) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:34, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Template:Periods in US history
Are we still in the Reagan era? This table gives the time period for the Reagan era as "1981–??", implying that we do not know when the Reagan era ends because we are still in it.

If we take what this template says literally, we are continuing to live in the same circumstances of the 1980s, even though we are almost in 2020 now. Reagan was president of the United States during that decade, but we can almost universally agree that American society has definitely moved on from then. There are certain things that Reagan and his administration would not have known about, such as the ongoing War on Terror, the financial crisis of 2007–08, the Internet, and many other examples that you might know of, too many to list here. The Reagan era has long ended, and this table should be updated to reflect this. ωικιωαrrιor ᑫᑫ1ᑫ 17:37, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Wikiproject Report
Hello all! I am writing the next installment of the Signpost Wikiproject Report,and was wondering if 4-5 of you wanted to volunteer to answer some questions. If so, please respond and ping me here, and we can get connected. Thanks! Puddleglum  2.0  16:01, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Article issues
There are comments at Talk:National Hockey League for anyone interested. Otr500 (talk) 13:55, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Locations
Is New York City located in southeast New York? -- GoodDay (talk) 20:51, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

National Association of Scholars - Your thoughts requested on Talk page
I created a section on Talk:National Association of Scholars titled, NPOV January 2020. Would you share your thoughts on the article there? (Or edit the article to improve it.) ¶ I read a Commentary in the Wall Street Journal Opinion section today that included this sentence: "Wikipedia describes us as a 'conservative' organization." That mention prompted me to look at the article. I did not know about the National Association of Scholars before today. I reviewed other Wikipedia articles about nonprofit (or trade union) educational organizations and none of them used an adjective denoting a political ideology in the article's short description or in the lede (introductory paragraph). Calling the National Association of Scholars a "conservative" organization struck me as neither consistent nor neutral. What do you think? Thanks! - Mark D Worthen PsyD  (talk)  (I am a man. The traditional male pronouns are fine.) 10:02, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Cite: Peter W. Wood, "‘Cancel Culture’ Comes to Science", Wall Street Journal (January 13, 2020): A17.  - Mark D Worthen PsyD   (talk)  (I am a man. The traditional male pronouns are fine.) 10:47, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

How to phrase text about LeBron James being considered the greatest basketball player of all time?
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:LeBron James. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:09, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

A second wave mass AfD nominations on Arizona towns
−	Chairing Cross, Arizona, Arizona First multiple town nomination for deletion. Was a Speedy Keep, nomination withdrawn. I don't know why they didn't include them all. What they have done is repackaged their effort: 'Old wine in new bottles.' No longer being sold by the case. Reminds me of Massive Attack, one of my favorite bands. But I digress. −		 −	A couple of these are not presently AFDs, but they all need to be improved. −	−

Coal Mine Mesa, Arizona (Second nomination)
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 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion Coal Mine Mesa, Arizona (Second nomination)

Coconino, Arizona (Second nomination)
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 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion Coconino, Arizona (Second nomination)

Corva, Arizona (Second nomination)
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 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion Corva, Arizona (Second nomination}

Cosnino, Arizona (Second nomination)
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 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion Cosnino, Arizona (Second nomination)

Coyote Basin Ranch, Arizona (Second nomination)
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 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coyote Basin Ranch (Second nomination)

Cucamonga Junction, Arizona (Second nomination)
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 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cucamonga Junction, Arizona(Second nomination)

Darling, Arizona (Second nomination)
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 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darling, Arizona (Second nomination)

Daze, Arizona (Second nomination)
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 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daze, Arizona(Second nomination)

Durfee Crossing, Arizona (Second nomination)
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Echinique Place, Arizona (Second nomination)
−	−	−		 −	A couple of those articles are not up for a second nomination. They appear in red. −	I know that Darling, Arizona has lots more sources. I have not done homework on the rest of the articles. All the AFD discussions started with a startling omission, and only peripherally mentioned (buried) the prior AFDs. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 16:21, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Echinique Place, Arizona (Second nomination)
 * This is not canvassing. Indeed, I have no idea who will read it or how they will react (if at all).  Simple notice.  Simple recitation of the facts.  What are you hiding?  And why?  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 22:17, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It might help if each of those articles were tagged with a Stub template. Category:Geography stubs Wikipedia allows stubs. Also, this is not canvassing by any stretch of the imagination.  Projects generally list AFD, CFD and other problem issues for articles related to their subject.  I.e. WikiProject Women in Red. Articles get rescued all the time. — Maile  (talk) 01:07, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Request to re-class article
I'm currently nominating Bonanza City, New Mexico for good article; the article is currently classed as a stub, which is technically speaking grounds for an insta-failure. I know it's unlikely the article will actually be insta-failed, but I don't want to take the chance of having to wait for months only to need to relist it again. Could someone please bump this up to start-class to eliminate this possibility? Spirit of Eagle (talk) 02:47, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

✅ — Maile (talk) 02:49, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Lee Fixel
Hello! I've submitted a request to update the Early life and education section of the Lee Fixel article as part of my work with Beutler Ink. Lee Fixel is an American venture capitalist and investor and I'm hoping to update some straightforward biographical information. You can view my full request here, which seeks to improve flow and fix a few inaccurate details. Will someone please review this request? Given my COI, I'm asking independent editors to confirm accuracy, neutrality, and verifiability. I'll happily address any questions or concerns that may arise. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 17:44, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Report
Hello all! I am the writer for the WikiProject Report section of the Signpost , and was wondering if any editors here would like to answer a couple questions for the March issue. If your interested, please ping me here and we can get connected! Thanks, Puddleglum  2.0   04:03, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, I am interested. Please sign me up! ωικιωαrrιor ᑫᑫ1ᑫ 14:36, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks ! Can you wait a couple days while I set up the questions? I ask so early because other Projects didn't reply for like a month. I'll give you the links on your talk page soon, thank you so much for signing up! Puddleglum <sup style="font-family:impact;color:silver;"> 2.0   23:44, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Alright, you're welcome. ωικιωαrrιor ᑫᑫ1ᑫ 16:49, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I would definitely be interested in answering any questions. Please feel free to contact me any time. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 21:49, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * cool. and  (+future volunteers): I'll drop y'all a line when I'm ready. Thanks so much.  Puddleglum <sup style="font-family:impact;color:silver;"> 2.0   00:50, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Article issues
There is a discussion at Talk:Alex Chilton that might be of interest to members of this project. Otr500 (talk) 10:22, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Idea for new community workspace
Hi. I would like to create some kind of collaborative workspace where coordinators or members of various WikiProjects would gather and provide updates and information on what is going on at each wikiproject, i.e. regarding their latest efforts, projects, and where interested editors can get involved.

For those of you at this very active WikiProject, your input would be very helpful, so I wanted to get your input on whether you'd be interested in helping me to make this happen.

we are discussing this proposal right now at:

* Village pump (proposals)

Please feel free to let me know what you think of this idea, and please let me know your preference, regarding the options above. if you do not see any need for this idea, that is totally fine. However, I think that the majority of editors lack awareness of where the truly active editing is taking place and at which WikiProjects, and I would like to do whatever I can to help make people more aware of where the activity is, what they can do to help, and also which areas of Wikipedia offer ideas and efforts that might help them in their own editing activities. Please feel free to let me know.


 * Would you be interested in an idea of this nature?
 * If so, which option below seems most feasible to you?
 * Create a new page/talk page at the existing WikiProject Council, where members of various WikiProject can gather to offer updates, information and ideas on the latest efforts at each of their own WikiProject, such as WikiProject Council/Town Hall.
 * Create an entirely new WikiProject with an inclusive name such as
 * WIkiProject Town Hall,
 * WikiProject Bulletin Board,
 * WikiProject Water Cooler
 * Create a new collaborative page or forum, but not as a new WIkiProject, i.e. with some name like
 * Town Hall or
 * Water Cooler
 * Create a new sub-page in my own userspace, such as User:Sm8900/Town Hall
 * Create a subpage at an umbrella-type WikiProject that already covers a broad topical area, such as WikiProject History/Town Hall

thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 18:50, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

RfC notice: Iranian Revolution "supported by the United States"?
Hi WP USA. Editors are invited to participate in Talk:Iranian Revolution. Thanks, Leviv<span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(45deg);bottom:-.57em;">ich 07:55, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Drew Anderson listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Drew Anderson to be moved to Drew Anderson (outfielder). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 00:33, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
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Discussion at Talk:Hijackers in the September 11 attacks
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Hijackers in the September 11 attacks. RightCow LeftCoast ( Moo ) 02:30, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

The Make-Up listed at Requested moves
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Taliban and Afghanistan Relations
When searching up key words like Afghanistan, it only has the years from 2001-2014. Why is that? We recently had a peace agreement with the Taliban, which may or may not be a huge step in real peaceJorgevizcarrondo (talk) 20:46, 23 March 2020 (UTC).Jorgevizcarrondo (talk) 20:46, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Help! 2020 United States Census
Help! Tens of thousands (or more) will be turning to Wikipedia for information about the 2020 United States Census. The article needs a good amount of work to bring it up to speed. Thanks! - Mark D Worthen PsyD  (talk)   (I'm a man—traditional male pronouns are fine.)  18:08, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Updating County Website URLs
I am working on a project to research and correct as many county web sites as possible and would like to integrate it with relevant Wikipedia pages such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_counties_and_county_equivalents.

I am consolidating lists of web sites I have obtained from the US Census Bureau and the National Association of Counties. These lists can be used to help fill in some gaps in the Infoboxes that appear in Wikipedia pages. All of these Infoboxes could be manually editied, but I am hoping there is a more automated technique for batch updating and then maintaining these. My team will also be researching cities (and other types of municipalities), school districts and special districts.

Would anyone on Project United States be interested in discussing this with me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joffemd (talk • contribs) 22:20, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Redirects to small towns
I've recently created redirects like these: I notice that such redirects already exist (e.g. Custar, Deandale) yet I'm not sure if it makes sense to create such redirects. Are they useful? —  Ark25  (talk) 01:41, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Artanna - to - Artanna, Ohio
 * Austinburg - to - Austinburg, Ohio
 * Badgertown - to - Badgertown, Ohio
 * , in cases where there really is only the one other use as is apparently the case with Artanna and Badgertown, then there is little harm in redirecting. However, there may be other uses that are not immediately obvious where a disambiguation page might be better. For example, with Austinburg, there is also a community in Brookfield Township, Tioga County, Pennsylvania. Whether either of the tiny communities in Ohio or Pennsylvania or the township in Ohio is the primary topic is something to consider on case by case basis. Personally, I'd lean towards no primary topic.
 * You might want to reconsider some other similar titles that you recently redirected and then created a separate disambiguation page. For example Forgy as a redirect to the virtually non-existent (except in a historical sense) community of Forgy, Ohio and the separate page Forgy (disambiguation) -- which is essentially a surname page. I would suggest that in such cases there is no primary topic and the disambiguation page should be place at the base name. older ≠ wiser 13:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * PS, for cases where there is a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT and a separate disambiguation page, the page should be formatted MOS:PRIMARYTOPIC. Also avoid using USA (see WP:NOTUSA). Also, and I hesitate to suggest this, but in addition to using the Wikipedia search function to find other ambiguous topics, you might also consider checking the GNIS domestic name search function (which is no longer being updated) or its replacement The National Map. Note that GNIS may list many "false" positives in that not everything that exists in the GNIS database is necessarily notable in a Wikipedia sense. older ≠ wiser 13:58, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your detailed answer! It's quite clear this is way too complicated for me so I give up. —  Ark25  (talk) 14:45, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean to discourage you. I'd only suggest to default to placing the disambiguation page at the base name unless it is really obvious that there is in fact a clear primary topic. No need to worry too much about formatting or layout. older ≠ wiser 14:54, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Of course. Yet the first step should be to create redirects like Woodington, Ontario and Austinburg, Pennsylvania. Wihout doing that in the first place, I would create a lot of redirects where in fact there should be disambiguation pages, and then my work would actually spoil things instead of helping. And this is far too much work and too complicated for me - I have no idea how to make this semi-automatic. Only after completing this first step it is possible to make it semi-automatic the creation of the links I was asking about. Without automatizing a part of the work, this is something that takes ages. —  Ark25  (talk) 15:11, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * There's no need to create a redirect for every possible entity. Redirects for place names can be useful when it is likely that there might or could someday be an article on the topic. But when dealing with obscure, historical names, there is little benefit to creating such a redirect and it is perfectly fine for the disambiguation page to link to the article in which the obscure name is mentioned. older ≠ wiser 15:31, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Yet without creating such redirects, it is very hard to know if you have to create a redirect of a disambiguation page.

For example, in the first step, the redirect Clarktown, New Jersey must be created (to redirect to Hamilton Township, Atlantic County, New Jersey.

And then, in the second step, using the template intitle, you can search for "intitle:"Clarktown, " and you will discover that you have to create a disambiguation page. This second step can be done semi-automatic - like for example creating a list like this. —  Ark25  (talk) 15:43, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Having a redirect with a term in the title is not a requirement for disambiguation. Yes, perhaps it might make it easier for editors, but that is a secondary consideration. When considering applicability of WP:DABMENTION, intitle would not help. In such cases you need to do a full search for articles containing the term and evaluate whether that particular usage is worth including on the dab page. For example, people or fictional characters with a given name are rarely worth calling out on a disambiguation page unless it is a truly uncommon given name or they are commonly known mononymously by the given name alone. Similarly, people or fictional characters with a surname that are only briefly mentioned in an article generally shouldn't be included. Place names are a little more flexible, but obscure historical names generally can be mentioned on the disambiguation page, but there is little value to creating a redirect for the term. older ≠ wiser 16:06, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * "you need to do a full search for articles containing the term and evaluate.." - And that means even more work :). Really, this can take decades so this is clearly not for me. —  Ark25  (talk) 16:14, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Good article review needed for Veterans benefits for post-traumatic stress disorder in the United States
I nominated Veterans benefits for post-traumatic stress disorder in the United States for a Good Article Review. WP:USA is an interested WikiProject for the article. If you (anyone reading this) could conduct the GA review, that would be awesome! :0) I nominated it under the Culture, sociology and psychology subtopic. If you have not conducted a good article review before, take a look at the good article reviewer instructions to see what is involved. If you decide to conduct the review (thank you!), please be sure to read Markworthen/Veterans-benefits-GA-nom where I provide some important history/background info about the article, e.g., 2015 SME (subject matter experts) review; 2015 GA nomination feedback; 2019 Peer Review; 2020 Guild of Copy Editors review, etc. Much appreciated  - Mark D Worthen PsyD   (talk)   (I'm a man—traditional male pronouns are fine.)  16:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Good Article reassessment for United States
Not sure if this project has been notified, but an editor has opened an individual GAR for United States. It can be found at Talk:United States/GA4. AIR<b style="color: green;">corn</b> (talk) 03:40, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Categorizing files on Commons
A high proportion of the nearly 20,000 talk pages in Category:File-Class United States articles belong to files that were moved to Commons and deleted, typically in 2011 or 2012. Is there any reason for these Commons files to continue to be project-tagged on en.wikipedia? Unless this serves some purpose for the project (and if it does, I would be eager to know how it is used), I propose to get a bot to delete any talk page in the category without a corresponding file on en.wikipedia. Local talk pages for Commons files generally lead to either split discussions or, more commonly, invite occasional comments that no one sees or responds to. Thoughts? -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:05, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Anyone? -- Black Falcon (talk) 01:13, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's anyone left on this project who would know how to answer you question. I don't know how to answer it, and I've been around more than a decade. The editor who created WikiProject United States is no longer active.  I would say go with your own instincts on this.  — Maile  (talk) 02:49, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Maile. I have placed a request at Bot requests/Archive 80. -- Black Falcon (talk) 23:22, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Mike Jackson
Mike Jackson (right-handed pitcher), an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Therapyisgood (talk) 20:06, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Ryan Hanigan
Ryan Hanigan, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Therapyisgood (talk) 21:41, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

List of known cases of COVID-19 in the United States
There's a Draft:List of known cases of COVID-19 in the United States; it hasn't been updated since the beginning of March. The list criteria need discussing, so any interested parties could participate. -- 65.94.170.207 (talk) 11:23, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week
Hello there. This is an invitation to join the 50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week. £250 (c. $310) is being given away in May, June and July with £20 worth of prizes to give away every week for most articles destubbed. Each week there is a different region of focus, including the week ending July 5th dedicated to the US, though half the prize will still be rewarded for articles on any subject. There's a potential £120 to be won in total for destubbing on any subject or region of your choice. Sign up if you want to contribute at least one of the weeks or support the idea! † Encyclopædius  12:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Can we add honorific prefixes and suffixes for American presidents and figures of importance?
The following I think should be discussed on this topic:


 * 1) In their respective infobox, Presidents of the U.S. such as Theodore Roosevelt, and other highly respected generals and military soldiers (ex:  Douglas MacArthur), should be listed with titles such as (ex: Colonel, or Field Marshal) for their service in the military if they have earned it, or other mediums of service to the United States. MacArthur as an example is already designated as General of the Army in his infobox, but it should be expanded to others who have not yet received such.
 * 2) Honorific suffixes such as (ex: PMF) should be added to individuals who have earned the merit

The reason I bring this up is because Wikipedia as a source of information is crucial to how people do research on schoolwork, projects and programs. The addition of honorific prefixes and suffixes can allow for the researcher at first glance to understand the importance of such person, and what they have earned in their lifetime. This is applied to international politicians, and acts as a mean to let the reader see the figures's prestige and national merits/honors right next to their picture. The Right Honourable Boris Johnson looks better than leaving his name plain as is, as the appearance of someone and their honors would help others comprehend their magnitude and significance in the grand scope of American history, such as Elvis Presley, and Walt Disney. user:Josharaujo1115 Josharaujo1115 (talk) 11:21, 26 April 2020 (UTC)07:05, 26 April 2020 (UTC-4, EDT)


 * This is the Wikipedia policy on the naming of people: Naming conventions (people). — Maile (talk) 13:00, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

United States non-interventionism listed at Requested moves
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A few states missing from template
You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:WikiProject United States. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 06:44, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

FYI - relevant discussion
I've proposed a CSD criterion targeting the worst and least notable of the GNIS permastubs. See here. CJK09 (talk) 07:08, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

RfC at Alliance Defending Freedom
This RfC may be of interest to the members of this group. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:57, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Second American Revolution
Should this really be a stand-alone article? Doug Weller talk 19:14, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I say no. The article's second sentence says, "Rhetorical or hyperbolic references to a Second American Revolution have been made on a number of occasions throughout the history of the United States." That's thin gruel to justify an entire article, and besides, I think it's downright misleading, as the title gives the impression at first sight that two American Revolutionary Wars were fought. Carlstak (talk)
 * I prodded it. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 02:29, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Now at AfD. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:31, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Missing/broken references
I'm trying to make a dent in Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors, and a few articles within the hockey sphere have issues that I can't fix on my own (~9600 issue as of writing). Basically, some refs linked via sfn and harvnb and similar have missing full citations or have some other problems. You can check these instructions to have error messages enabled (Svick's script is the simplest to use, but Trappist's script is a bit more refined if you're interested in doing deeper cleanup).

In particular, the following articles could use some of your attention • 13th Maine Volunteer Infantry Regiment

• 59th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry Regiment

• 1808 United States Senate election in Massachusetts

• 1838 Mormon War

• 1880 United States House of Representatives elections

• 1880 United States presidential election in Virginia

• 1884 and 1885 United States Senate elections

• 1888 United States presidential election

• 1898 and 1899 United States Senate elections

• 1904 and 1905 United States Senate elections

• 1914 United States Senate elections

• 1916 Massachusetts gubernatorial election

• 1917 Massachusetts gubernatorial election

• 1918 Massachusetts gubernatorial election

• 1924 Massachusetts gubernatorial election

• 1926 United States Senate election in Arizona

• 1931 Chicago housing protests

• 1932 United States Senate election in Arizona

• 1933 Banking Act

• 1936 United States presidential election

• 1937 United States Senate special election in Arkansas

• 1943 BRUSA Agreement

• 1946 United States House of Representatives elections

• 1968 Arkansas gubernatorial election

• 1968 United States presidential election

• 1970 Arizona gubernatorial election

• 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens

• 2004 American League Championship Series The cause is often copy-pasting a short reference from another article without copy-pasting the full reference. If you can find where things were copy-pasted from, you can usually find what the full reference is.

Thanks for any help you can give! &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:50, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

2020 census, city/county demographics, and what to do with 2000/2010 data
Has there been any discussion of how we will incorporate the new demographic data that will be released in the not-too-far future? This also provides a good opportunity to think of ways to improve the current presentation of 2000/2010 data, and the question of simply removing 2000 data altogether. CJK09 (talk) 00:17, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

To elaborate, the decisions to be made and some potential options:
 * 1) What to do with 2000 census data blurbs?
 * 2) Remove immediately
 * 3) Remove once 2020 census data is added to articles
 * 4) Shrink it down in size, rewrite it, or otherwise change it, either immediately or once 2020 data is added
 * 5) Leave as is
 * 6) What to do with 2010 census data blurbs?
 * 7) Remove once 2020 census data is added to articles
 * 8) Shrink it down in size, rewrite it, or otherwise change it, either immediately or once 2020 data is added
 * 9) Leave as is
 * 10) How to present 2020 census data?
 * 11) What data should be included? What data should be left out? Should some of it be presented in graph or chart form instead of prose?
 * 12) Should communities of different sizes have blurbs with different levels of detail? For example, Floriston, California, a community of 73 people, had five paragraphs of demographic data before I edited it down to one paragraph while making general improvements to the article. Chicken, Alaska, which had 17 residents at the time of the 2000 census, at one point had four paragraphs of demographic data. There are thousands of tiny communities like this in the US.
 * 13) Should some data categories be included for some types of communities but not others? For example: including the fully detailed age breakdown for military bases, retirement communities, and other communities with interesting/unusual age distributions, while only including median age, percent under 18, and percent over 65 for communities with normal age distributions.

At some point there should be a multi-part RFC on this stuff once we've had a chance to bounce some ideas around. The 2000 and 2010 data was awkwardly written in many ways and we have an opportunity to do it better this time around; this also serves as an opportunity to determine whether we will really want 3 sets of census data, some of it 20 years out of date, on almost every US community page in less than a year's time. This whole process will affect something like 50,000 articles so it's important we have a plan. I've only been active again for the past two months however, so it's very possible these discussions are already happening and I'm just out of the loop. CJK09 (talk) 04:08, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I think the number is more like 30,000, though that doesn't affect things much.
 * There is an interesting possibility of using a template (which already exists), see previous discussion at WikiProject Cities for more information. One of the things we could do with that is something like  could have behaviour defined on the year, so that we switch previous census results to a more summary style.  There are pros and cons with this approach.
 * There are also US Census estimates, mid-decade and, I think, for some other years for some places.
 * Of course there are pre-2000 censuses that are not as easily available in electronic form. Ideally I'd like to see this data made available (maybe via Wikisource and/or Wikidata)  and have better demographic sections, avoiding recentism.
 * In many cases (but not by proportion) there is enough information to have a Demographics of Foo article.
 * Just some thoughts.
 * All the best: Rich Farmbrough  10:07, 25 May 2020 (UTC).

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Political appointments by Donald Trump
It would be much appreciated if editors would watch and periodically update Political appointments by Donald Trump and its sub-articles. This is a useful article, but it's neglected and becoming very out-of-date. --1990&#39;sguy (talk) 16:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Inactive subprojects
I see that there are a number of inactive geographical WikiProjects that fall under the purview of WP:US. Specifically, the projects for Alabama, Austin, Iowa, Houston, and Jacksonville are marked as inactive. Some, like WP:IA, have been marked as inaactive since September 2017. I suggest they be fully merged into WP:US along with the other states and cities that are part of the WP:US template. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:23, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't see the need to merge state projects into the national. I'd leave them alone to allow for granularity of assessment.  Imzadi 1979  →   03:35, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

The Stamp Act related in today's terms.
The article states that the retention of ten thousand British soldiers after the seven-year war, who were politically connected costs approximately 33 million pounds in today's value. Well, this works out to be 3,300 pounds, an amount that is not excessive. Was the burden of 10,000 troops that excessive or was it a small number of troops? Please help me understand the finances of the equation that led to a revolution.2601:14D:80:BD0:C548:E6B8:2A14:58C5 (talk) 17:36, 15 June 2020 (UTC)EdwardJWalshJrCPA@gmail.com

RfC on Turning Point USA
An RfC which may be of interest to the members of this project can be found here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:14, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Featured article length & Laura Harrier
FAC Laura Harrier is currently in a standstill. One editor supported the promotion to FA status but the current editor believes the article is too short to be a Featured Article. Could anyone assist with this article or quickly look over it for a review, or if not interested in reviewing it, let me know if it is indeed too short please? Factfanatic1 (talk) 13:35, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Request for new quality rating of Thorncrown Chapel article
I revised and added new content to this article, and would like to submit it for a new project quality rating up from Stub-Class. Thanks and gig 'em! Doghouse09 (talk) 18:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * ✅ — Maile (talk) 19:24, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Chris Gragg FAR
I have nominated Chris Gragg for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Tonystewart14 (talk) 03:30, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Move request discussion: Title for the Suicide of Kurt Cobain article
Opinions are needed on the following: Talk:Suicide of Kurt Cobain/Archive 1. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 03:23, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Hurricane Willa
Hello all, I just wanted to ask if anyone would be willing to review Hurricane Willa. It is currently a featured article candidate and was quite an impactful storm for Mexico. Although almost all of the impact was in Mexico, the storm did cause some bad flooding near Galveston, Texas. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 20:42, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Inclusion of presidential election data in U.S. county articles
One editor is removing the presidential election results from the Rockdale County, Georgia article and claims there is no consensus for their inclusion, despite the fact that every other article on a US county contains presidential election results. I see no reason to remove them from any county article; they're useful information. Thoughts? Chessrat ( talk, contributions ) 23:25, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Ongoing Discussion at 2016 United States presidential election in the District of Columbia
There is an ongoing discussion at Talk:2016 United States presidential election in the District of Columbia about the inclusion of Donald Trump in the infobox. GamerKiller2347 (talk) 00:20, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Need to fix Template:History of the United States
Template:History of the United States currently has a top link "Timeline", which links to Timeline of United States history, a redirect to History of the United States. However, under it are the links to articles titled "History of the United States (xxxx - yyyy)" such as History of the United States (1789–1849). There are also a set of articles titled like Timeline of United States history (1790-1819), and I think these are more appropriate under the heading "Timeline". But both sets of articles exist, so they should both be included in the template. — Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 17:24, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

RfC on Project Veritas
Please see the RfC here, which may be of interest to members of this project. (Disclosure: I am employed by Project Veritas.) Sal at PV (talk) 02:43, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Content about Obama-Romney debate in “Second Cold War”
There is a discussion about info related to Obama and Romney used in the “Second Cold War” article. Your input there is welcome. George Ho (talk) 01:13, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

GAR notice
James McCune Smith, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Eddie891 Talk Work 23:55, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Talk:American Descendants of Slavery
Needs attention from someone uninvolved. Doug Weller talk 14:40, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Carter County Oklahoma Politics Chart
The numbers presented in the Carter County, Oklahoma Politics Chart are clearly incorrect in part or in whole. There are MORE Democrats than Republicans but the Republican percent of the total is higher. Further, I cannot get the numbers to add up to the total reported. I do not have access to the data so I cannot provide a correction.

I am Bob Darcy, bob.darcy@okstate.edu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdarcy (talk • contribs) 02:51, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Department of the Interior team photo
Just a heads up that I uploaded  of members of the DOI in 2017. People may find it useful for illustrating some BLPs and related articles. In addition, it would be great if people could help identify some of the people in the photo--I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar. Jlevi (talk) 12:51, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

How do I archive all of the references in the article Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis?
So the article Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis apparently has more references than are allowed to archive. Is it possible to request that a bot archive all of the references, please? I tried the "Fix Dead Links" tool thorough the article's Page/History. The tool told me there are too many dead links for that tool to work. Factfanatic1 (talk) 15:30, 16 August 2020 (UTC)