Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States/Archive 15

Flagging Edit Request on AARP Talk Page
Hello – I’m sharing this post in the hopes of getting an editor’s feedback on the changes proposed to AARP article on Oct. 1, 2021 (“Edit Request: History and Advocacy Sections”). Please note that I proposed this edit for FleishmanHillard on behalf of AARP as a paid editor and I am aware of the COI guidelines. Please let me know of any questions or comments as you review. Thanks for your time and consideration. Justin Goldsborough (talk) 16:49, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Wikimedia Discord server for the United States
I have created a proposal/discussion about creating a dedicated Wikimedia Discord server for the United States on Meta. Please see and comment about the proposal and your interest there. Lectrician1 (talk) 00:26, 8 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I have created the server for those who want to join: https://discord.gg/MEntkrzz3U Lectrician1 (talk) 04:15, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * By doing so, you are creating a cabal. Discussions about Wikipedia should be held on-wiki, if only for transparency. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 21:31, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Collaborating off of Wikipedia is not necessarily a cabal especially if the platform is public. Or do you think Discord is illegitimate too? I don't see an issue as long as our guidelines against canvassing are followed. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 21:55, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Redrose64 I completely recognize the benefit of talking on-wiki vs. Discord. I would prefer all discussion to happen on the wiki as well. However, I find that Discord provides an easier and faster interface to communicate with fellow editors than the wiki does. Because of this, editors are able to be more-productive and actually contribute to the project more than if they just used the wiki to communicate. I have saved myself probably tens of hours because of the Wikimedia communities on Discord and Telegram. Yes, Discord is not open like the wiki is and does not easily provide history about discussions, however, anyone's still able to join it (so it's not a cabal) and it's not like there are critical discussions happening there (those always should happen on-wiki). Despite these downsides, I see having a Discord server as a net-positive to the movement. I hope that we can develop convenient communication tools for the wiki some day so that it becomes as convenient as Discord. Lectrician1 (talk) 21:59, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * By that logic, editathons and meetups are also cabals, not to mention Discord and IRC. I find it very hard to take seriously your accusation that any off-wiki activity is "creating a cabal". That borders on absurd and shows zero appreciation of the nuance between appropriate and non-appropriate off-wiki communication. We have rules about canvassing, and they must be respected, but they absolutely do not forbid things such as this Discord server, and claiming otherwise is patently false. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 22:43, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Regardless of what RedRose64's concerns are, or how they phrased them, doesn't make them any less legitimate. Yes, there are opportunities for the community to meet and communicate off-wiki, and while during some of those opportunities people may discuss specific topics, that's not the same as having topic-specific venues where communication, and just as importantly, the history of said communication, is not recorded on-wiki. These sites and meet-ups might not lead to the creation of "cabals", but it can create the opportunity for "cabal-like" behavior. There is no harm is recognizing that some editors here may have concerns about that. -  wolf  23:13, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Help copy editing and reviewing content of my article please!
Hi everyone, my name is Amy and I'm writing my first ever Wikipedia article. It is classed as a stub in this WikiProject, and I believe I've expanded it well beyond that level. I would really appreciate some help with copy-editing but would love as well if you could just take a minute to read it as I've put a lot of effort in! I'm trying to bring the article beyond the stub category to a A, B, or C grade page. The page is about an extremist political group, the National Association for the Advancement of White People. Thanks for your help guys! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tofta22 (talk)|Tofta22 (talk)]] (Tofta22 (talk)#top|talk]] • Tofta22 (talk)|contribs]]) 11:05, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Ease of voting in each state
An editor has added rankings of the "easiest" and "hardest" states to vote in, to several US state articles. I question the value of this ranking, and have started a discussion at Talk:Texas. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:30, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

ok. Quiet2 (talk) 07:31, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Off-topic content at Talk:Social programs in the United States
I'm not sure if this is a good-faith edit, but in any case, it does not seem appropriate for Wikipedia. I'm not sure how to address it. Talk:Social programs in the United States --Xarm Endris (talk) 10:12, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

History of Minnesota Featured article review
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Notability of politicians
If a politician is one of two primary politicians for US Congress in 2022, who has had articles written about him with all large state papers in past elections, does that make this candidate notable?

What policy can I look up about this? Quiet2 (talk) 03:32, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

RfC on use of sources regarding "Founding Fathers"
I have posted an RfC on an editor's use of a source to declare 25+ colonial figures "Founding Fathers". To keep this neutral I won't say anything more except: Only a couple other editors have chimed in so far, and more opinions are needed to help resolve the dispute. My concern is I just discovered the changes a couple weeks ago, determined that they have stood since last October, and believe there's a possibility other sites on the internet may be echoing these claims.

The link to the RfC: Request for comment on use of sources. Any and all comments are most welcome. If this not the appropriate place for posting my request, please let me know and I will gladly delete it. Allreet (talk) 17:34, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Drummer
Hello! While looking at my recent changes, I came across the BLP article Matt Chamberlain. This article appears to be in bad shape and has apparently been edited by socks and a COI editor. I just removed some info that seemed completely unneeded in the article and would like help looking through the article and figuring out what should be done with it. provided a diff from before this mess happened and with how the article looks right now, I'm tempted to just restore the article back to that revision. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:14, 28 January 2022 (UTC)


 * , yes, it's poorly written/organized, though the subject is "clearly" notable based on his work. And if a COI is involved, "they" are not doing him many favors - Mr. Chamberlain seems to deserve better. Sources would help his cause greatly. I did a simple search on his name plus "drummer" and came up with dozens of relevant hits. The only question, then, is who's willing to do the work? If a reversion would help, why not, though it should be done with a cut and paste rather than  an Undo so that other material since added is preserved. To let you know, I took a look and agree with your changes. One correction that needs to be made, and that I'll handle, is that he's no longer on tour with Dylan (who I just saw around the same time). Charley Drayton is now behind the drums, so says Rolling Stone, which happens to mention that Matt Chamberlain will be missed. BTW, thanks for your conscientiousness. Allreet (talk) 18:12, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Alright sounds good. And you're very welcome. I often come across articles like these while looking through recent changes for vandalism and sometimes the edit that's being done isn't necessary vandalism but the article itself is just in bad shape. Also I had to look up what conscientiousness meant and as I said I greatly appreciate the compliment. I tend to be very strict with obeying rules ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:17, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm vaguely familiar with Matt Chamberlain from his work with Garbage, which is not at all covered apart from a 1 word mention that he has performed with the band. There's some relevant information on the articles for Garbage's albums, Chamberlain has performed drums for a number of Garbage songs, including 2 tracks on Not Your Kind of People and another 2 tracks on Beautiful Garbage, and has toured with the band. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:48, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Please note...
the RfC [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wingnut_(politics)#RfC:_Is_there_sufficient_material_in_the_body_of_the_article_to_support_a_sentence_being_added_to_the_lede? here] (with additional information here), and the related AfD here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 10:49, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Revival of WikiProject Nebraska
Hello! I'm looking to attempt to revive WikiProject Nebraska. This is honestly the first time I've attempted something like this so I'm attempting to follow the directions listed at WP:REVIVE. If you're interested feel free to join and help out. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:20, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Linking the project here (WikiProject Nebraska) for easy access. - Whisperjanes (talk) 15:49, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

FAR of Wesley Clark
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FAR for Black Francis
I have nominated Black Francis for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. – zmbro (talk) (cont) 23:41, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of John McKeithen
It looks like the page on John McKeithen, governor of Louisiana from 1964-1972, has been deleted due to copyright concerns. Is there a standard list of sources for 20th-century US political history that can be drawn upon to recreate the page? If any section of the deleted article was verified to not be infringing on copyright, can that section be recovered? (Not sure if, who deleted the page, can help with this, if anyone with admin permissions can see the deleted text, or if the text is lost forever due to sensitivities of copyright.) I am happy to create a stub with basic information, but would like to check with others first. GlobeGores (talk page | user page) 08:49, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The primary contributor is so it's all bad. Create a stub and an admin can provide the references. MER-C 17:57, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Done.GlobeGores (talk page | user page) 21:42, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Talk:University Park, Florida
Hi, I need some help in this case. It's about data regarding the new 2020 Census. Thank you. Dionysos1988 (talk) 01:29, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

missing assessment
Could someone PLEASE assesss my 2017 article Des Moines Water Works as obviously I cant do it myself ? Thank you !--Wuerzele (talk) 22:51, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There's not actually any real prohibition on assessing articles you've created. After all, editors do not own articles they create. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:52, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Notability of unorganized territories
A few months ago, the articles North Billings, North Dakota and South Billings, North Dakota were PROD tagged by and subsequently deleted by. I have no issues with the deletion of the standalone articles, since I do think they are better explained through prose in the article about the whole county. The problem is that, while it was determined these are not notable enough entities to warrant an article, there are probably hundreds of articles about the same type of area these two articles were about (they are not CCDs as suggested by the PROD note, but non-governmental MCDs that the census bureau uses to fill in the gaps of areas that aren't covered by cities or townships). Examples include Fort Snelling (unorganized territory), Minnesota (which probably passes GNG), but also Lake No. 1, Minnesota and Lake No. 2, Minnesota (both of which probably fail GNG). Should most or all of these articles be merged and redirected into their respective county articles?-- Molandfreak  (talk,   contribs,  email) 12:56, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes, absolutely. Reywas92Talk 14:41, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Nefarious: Merchant of Souls FAR
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FAR for J. R. Richard
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Alpime Skiing World Cup race podiums
At the end of each ski world cup competition, the first three athletes are awarded. Ok, no medals are awarded, but the placements in the top three are considered podiums in careers. Ok the "medal count" template speaks of "medals" and in the World Cup medals are not awarded to the first three as in the Olympics or the World Cup, but the count of podiums in the world cup would be useful information, as it is in other Wikipedia like the German one. Do not tell me that the infobox already contains the information of podiums and victories, because it does not contain the details. So I ask what harm it would be to put this additional information in the infobox since it is almost never in the body of the athletes article? See the esample of Mikaela Shiffrin. --Kasper2006 (talk) 17:47, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

US president timelines
I already posted this on Wikiproject History, but that page doesn't seem too active, so I'm posting it here too: The formatting of the US presidency timelines is inconsistent. Some of the lists are all on a single page (Harding), some are split by year (Obama), and Trump and Biden are split by quarter. The latter two are also using a table format where every single day has its own row. It's clear that the lists get more and more granular as they get more recent in a dramatic example of WP:RECENTISM. Has there been any discussion of standardizing this series of articles? If not, how would such a process take place? Thebiguglyalien (talk) 18:49, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Many presidents don't have one at all. Who's up for writing one for William Henry Harrison? -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 17:04, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Seymour, Indiana § Namechecking and not everything
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Seymour, Indiana § Namechecking and not everything. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:39, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Would some members of this WikiProject mind taking a look at this. The article has recently been expanded quite a bit by a fairly new editor. I think this editor means well, but some of the recent additions seem to be moving too far into WP:LOCAL and WP:NOTEVERYTHING territory. I could be reading too much into this and perhaps others might feel differently which is why I'm asking about it here. Additional input on the article's talk page would be appreciated. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:40, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Make Way for Ducklings FAR
I have nominated Make Way for Ducklings for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  15:55, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Zapruder film
Article about probably the most important historical record of the assassination of US President John F. Kennedy. Well, apparently I might be the only one who thinks so because this article is in terrible shape. It's fine if you don't believe me, if you're reading this post how about take a look at it - right now it's riddled with 12 citation needed templates - one dating from 2013 (Yeah...you read that right...a maintenance template has been sitting on this article for NINE YEARS), TEN dating from 2017, and one from 2022, it has an original research banner plastered at the top, 10 bare YouTube links as references, another section banner that dates from 2015... I might try hacking away at it a little and clearing away some of the editorial underbrush, but please jump in and let's get this article out of its present sorry state. Shearonink (talk) 05:14, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yikes, terrible shape indeed. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:31, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Honestly, after I started digging into its many issues I thought of a burned-earth approach and putting it up for deletion... The things that really ticked me off is that so MANY editors saw there were NUMEROUS problems that they ALL took the time to Hit & run tag rather than fixing ANYTHING themselves. So many tags and templates...and when I realized there was a tag on there from 2013!?! I am slightly swamped atm, but I think I can get at it by sometime Monday. If folks here and maybe yourself...if we can work together to improve it then maybe it won't be so overwhelming.
 * The other thing is..I think whoever wrote all the unsupported text obviously was writing from a place of knowledge - I just wish they had included some decent sources. Shearonink (talk) 14:55, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * - Take a look at Zapruder film now, I think it's starting to look a little better. Shearonink (talk) 16:42, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Discussion on LGBT representation in children's television
I started a split discussion on the LGBT representation in children's television article, located at Talk:LGBT representation in children's television]], proposing that parts of the "LGBT representation on Disney Channel" section about Disney animation be split out into another article titled "Disney and LGBT representation in animation". --Historyday01 (talk) 02:46, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

why. is this about hte united states? Quiet2 (talk) 07:31, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Since most of the shows are U.S. shows... --Historyday01 (talk) 15:21, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I feel like this isnt relevant to the Project. It could be incorporated under the LGBTQ project (if one exists. I am not sure if one does) Sailorman722 (talk) 18:13, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him &#124; talk) 02:58, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

GNIS
It would be great if articles were created with some references but specifically not with GNIS alone and certainly not sourced. This way we don't end up with an unsourced article like Abbie Joe, Louisiana. I live in the area and have not heard of it but I am researching. Thanks, --
 * A frequent shortcoming of GNIS is that is sometimes misidentifies "locales" like ranches, crossings, crossroads, landings, railroad stops, and commercial establishments, as "populated places". It is best to have at least one other source to support notability as a populated place. As an aside, the editor who created that article is a notorious sockpuppet. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:27, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I saw that I didn't sign my post and was adding some info in case someone happened upon a source or two. -- The coords Place it on Louisiana Highway 12 (south side) between Ragley and DeQuincy, east of the old Temple-Inland Mill (Temple-Inland road) that was closed by Georgia Pacific and recently reopened by Interfor, and west of Clark road. There is evidence of what could have been a millpond. If I cannot find some sources I will nominate the article for AFD. --  Otr500 (talk) 10:41, 19 March 2022 (UTC)


 * As for GNIS, I agree. I have seen hundreds of articles (many in California) that are only a spot on the map and no sources found. I try to find 3 or 4 sources and look at GNIS only to verify the coords. -- Thanks again for the quick reply, --  Otr500 (talk) 10:46, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You do need to check the coordinates too. There are occasional typos. Mangoe (talk) 16:09, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:List of tenants in 1 World Trade Center
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:List of tenants in 1 World Trade Center that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him &#124; talk) 22:47, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Natalie Clifford Barney Featured article review
I have nominated Natalie Clifford Barney for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  16:31, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

FAR for USS Missouri
I have nominated USS Missouri (BB-63) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 02:15, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Rutland (city), Vermont
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Rutland (city), Vermont that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him &#124; talk) 07:21, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Modern Whig Party
>There is a discussion at Talk:Modern Whig Party that may be of interest to some. -- Otr500 (talk) 15:01, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

United States Commission on International Religious Freedom
Please monitor United States Commission on International Religious Freedom. No content is present about it's reports but its totally filled with criticism about the reports. Content additions are largely political propaganda from the reported countries. Obey levy (talk) 14:10, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

RFC on Continental Association
There is a Request for Comments active at Talk:Founding Fathers of the United States on whether signers of the Continental Association should be considered Founding Fathers. Participation in the RFC is invited. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:55, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

New WikiProject
Hey everyone at WP United States, There is a new Wikiproject proposal for 20th Century Studios. (see WikiProject Council/Proposals/20th Century Studios) So if you are interested in joining please say so in the proposal, so we can see if there will be enough member to start a project. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 20:20, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

New stub Everything's Gonna Be All White created
I've created a new stub called Everything's Gonna Be All White. I've added 9 references to the article and have added the infobox as well as the overview, cast, episodes and reception sections, but the article still needs some work like expanding and the episode list reformatted to the correct format. — Mythdon ( talk  •  contribs ) 19:34, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

2016 United States presidential election in North Carolina voter turnout % citation
Hi, I've found a resource in order to add a citation to the next to the voter turnout percentage, unfortunately it is a very large (11 gigabytes) file. I cannot open it (most likely due to my RAM only being 16gb), and I just want someone else to verify that the amount of registered voters at that snapshot is indeed somewhere around 6,873,824 people? For past registered voter datasheets if you open them in an editor such as Sublime Text (which I use), the columns bar on the side can tell you the amount of voters/data points, i.e. for the most recent snapshot it was around 8 million. I am asking if anyone here has a beefier computer which can open this file (downloadable from here, specficially VR_Snapshot_20161108.zip, unzips to a .txt file) & verify that the voter turnout was indeed, 68.89% which would be in line with the vote count of 4,741,564 (4,741,564 div 0.6889 = 6,873,824).X-750 I've made a mistake, haven't I? 06:01, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Categories for discussion/Log/2022 May 3
You are invited to join the discussion at Categories for discussion/Log/2022 May 3, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:31, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

2022 abortion protests in the United States
Project members are invited to help expand the newly created 2022 abortion protests in the United States. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:35, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Article expansion and copy edit request
Greetings,

A new article Lettergate regarding international relations in between USA and Pakistan has been listed @ DyK, requesting further expansion and copy edit support.

Thanks, &#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 11:31, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Michigan State Capitol
I have nominated Michigan State Capitol for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 17:45, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Panos Mourdoukoutas


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If you are travelling this summer...
... and you like taking photos of things in Door County, see Reward board.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 20:17, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

The Wire at FAR
I have nominated The Wire for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 18:19, 16 May 2022 (UTC)


 * When you walk through the garden, you gotta watch your back. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:25, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

2022 US stock market fall
Should a page be created on this topic? There are a handful of sources for it like, and. M h hossein  talk 07:26, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

How patriotic are Americans
Hey I have scrolled through articles on American patriotism, American nationalism, and American Exceptionalism, and etc. But I haven’t seen any articles address how patriotic are Americans or how many Americans are patriotic despite the fact there are many surveys on this.

From [this,] [this,] [this,] [this,] [this,] and [this.]

I don’t Edit on this topic often so I didn’t want to touch this topic.CycoMa1 (talk) 23:56, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Template talk:US Census population
Hello! There has been a discussion at this talk page for a while now and I figured this might get better traction if posted here. The template at the moment makes estimations based on the 2010 census rather than the 2020 census, so it skews the population estimate percentages (e.g. look at United States, where the 2021 estimate currently shows a 7.5% growth). I was wondering if someone who regularly watches this page could take a look at the matter. Part of the issue is that there are certainly several pages out there using this template that have not updated to the 2020 census, and I was wondering if this project had a way to see which template still needed updating. Thanks for your help! 12.42.50.52 (talk) 16:39, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Population nerds reading this page may be interested in the new, a new tracking category for articles about US places that need their census data updated. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:32, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Grand Coulee Dam
I have nominated Grand Coulee Dam for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  04:02, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Good Article reassessment
Sacred Cod has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ɱ (talk) 05:10, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Update: Kept. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:42, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

GAR for Spirit of the American Doughboy
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Memorials to George Floyd
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RfC on the end of the American Civil War
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Overcounts and undercounts in censuses
It is well documented that probably all US censuses have had undercounts and overcounts. However, I would like to start a discussion about whether or not we should use figures adjusted based on estimates of overcount and undercount, and not the actual enumerated populations, when listing the populations of the US and its states in the event of statistically significant coverage errors (currently the Census Bureau does not provide this data for cities and counties; however, they did provide county level data for the 1990 census). No states had significant overcounts or undercounts in 2010; however, data released last month found that in 2020 eight states had significant overcounts and six had significant undercounts. For the overcounted states, this data was largely consistent with estimates. For example, the 2020 census enumerated about 800,000 more people in New York State than estimates released just months before had found. And sure enough, the results released last month confirmed that the estimates, and not the actual census, were indeed far more accurate. In terms of undercounted states, the consistency was mixed; some did indeed fall short of estimates, while others were almost exactly on par. The Census Bureau does seem to base its population estimates on the decennial enumerations, regardless of whether or not they are accurate, and the Supreme Court has ruled that only the enumerated population can be used for redistricting; however, other sources that estimate population, such as World Population Review, seem to take adjusted data into account. This begs the question, should we start using adjusted estimates, and not the actual enumerated population, when listing the populations of states by census, especially when there is strong evidence that the adjusted estimates are far more accurate? Bneu2013 (talk) 04:09, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The problem I have with this claim starts with the apparent dismissal of WP policy across all languages: each country's official demographic agency—the U.S. Census Bureau in the United States, the Bundesamt für Statistik in Germany, INSEE in France etc.—is the accepted source for each country's demographics: nation, states/provinces, municipalities. Thus, what World Population Review, Demographia, and other private demographers "seem to take into account" is irrelevant. That there are overcounts or undercounts from an official governmental agency of statistics must be expected. One, the undocumented migrant population is considerable in the U.S., UK, and most other wealthy nations, including continental Europe. Second, the desperately poor, the addicted, and the homeless are 21st-century phenomena in many places. This does impact urban areas especially (whether New York City or Luanda, it doesn't matter). However, any effort to remedy this, while obtaining wide consensus to impose some "corrected" figure over others, is another push toward "righting great wrongs" within the WP project. It opens a Pandora's box on  sources and statistics. It promises no greater accuracy, just some editors' idea of "justice". Mason.Jones (talk) 15:40, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The estimates of undercount and overcount come from the Census Bureau, not third party sources that mostly regurgitate data from the Census Bureau. The 2020 census estimates I listed above that were inconsistent with the actual tabulation also came from the Census Bureau. What I am trying to raise here is, what should we do when the official agency responsible for determining the country's demographics claims that they were wrong? In the case of the recent census, there was additional data provided by the Census Bureau that suggested that their enumerations were wrong in some states. What really brought me here was multiple editors have insisted that Illinois's population figure be adjusted based on the estimate that the Census missed about 250k people there. I actually undid some edits there that changed the 2020 enumerated population. I don't know of any other instance where this has come up, but I thought it was something that likely needs discussion. Bneu2013 (talk) 07:47, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * If a few editors from one state, Illinois, are disgruntled over their state's undercount, they can add—but not replace—a sentence about it right after the text mention of the official count. In the infobox and historical population, they can add—not replace—the figure with a short footnoted explanation. (If the edits you cited included a full ref, I would have restored the original figure but added theirs after it and why.) That said, proposing a WP policy shift across the board that replaces baseline, official U.S. census numbers is sheer POV, with a dash of righting great wrongs. It also jumps the gun on any future announcement by the U.S. Bureau that the Bureau will (formally) accept its new, adjusted numbers. After census and estimates are published, a handful of experienced WP editors do the huge task of updating U.S. Census stats (down to the municipal level). I shudder to think of the adjusted tables fraught with probable errors, miscopying, and fraud with your proposal as I imagine it. It is wrongheaded on so many levels.  Mason.Jones (talk) 17:25, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

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Providence
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Draft article for Ion District
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Criminal sentencing in the United States needs a lot of work
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Drafts for senate candidates
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Assistance at Bill Ackman article
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Stephanie Cutter
Hi editors, I&#39;m Christian and I work for Precision Strategies. I&#39;ve been hoping to make some updates to the Stephanie Cutter article and have made a few requests at the article Talk page that I think help organize the article a bit better and clean up some redundancy, but I&#39;ve been unsuccessful so far in getting those requests reviewed. I&#39;ve been trying WikiProjects and users with no luck so far. I&#39;d love it if someone here could help me out! I won&#39;t make any edits myself due to my conflict of interest. Thanks in advance for your consideration! PrecisionChristian (talk) 19:31, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

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July–August 2022 United States floods has an RFC
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Request for HubSpot
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American Caesar
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News organization rankings of states
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Creation of "Child Poverty in the United States"
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Settlements destroyed in Civil War
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Wilmington insurrection of 1898
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March 18, 1817 Letter found from one Atty: Edwin A. White to his Father Moses White Esquire
I have found an antique letter dated March 18, 1817 from an Atty:in Columbia University to his Father in Coo's County, New Hampshire of Lancaster City. The letter is about 4 pages long and gives advice to his Dad about to more brothers as John and Charley White. Hoping they will be the new "good farmers" of their Fathers' land. I would like to donate this letter to a Historical Foundation or something similar, but, am completely ignorant to this matter. Please advise. 2603:9001:1001:CD6E:88B3:146:EE09:320A (talk) 21:19, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Updates to 2020 Postal Voting in U.S. Article
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AFD on list of proposed national monuments
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Issue One request
Hi there, WikiProject United States members. I work with Issue One, a U.S.-based nonprofit organization. I have posted a request to the Issue One Talk page that outlines a proposed update to the article's History section. I suggest retitling the section as "Formation" and simplifying some of the details about the Issue One predecessor organizations.

Because of my conflict of interest, I will avoid implementing these edits myself. Instead, my hope is that I can get an experienced editor to review what I've put together and then make the changes if they seem like improvements. Any help or feedback you can provide would be appreciated! AR at Issue One (talk) 21:07, 20 December 2022 (UTC)


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Update National Parks visitation template
Can we update NPS visitation so that it will link to a single report, rather than a page full of reports? I think it's best to link to "Annual Visitation By Park (1979 - Last Calendar Year)", but others may think a different report is better. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 02:02, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Listing Americans by ethnicity and occupation
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Phoenix, Arizona or Phoenix?
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Should the "Wi Spa controversy" Article Identify the Suspect by Name?
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Featured article review for Yellowstone
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FAR for Panic of 1907
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Project-independent quality assessments
See Village pump (proposals). This proposes support for quality assessment at the article level, recorded in WikiProject banner shell, and inherited by the wikiproject banners. However, wikiprojects that prefer to use custom approaches to quality assessment can continue to do so. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Albany, New York
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Rocket Lab
There is an open request for comment at Talk:Rocket Lab regarding how to describe the nationality of the company. As a publicly traded American company, headquartered in California, representation by Americans would be appreciated. Grey Wanderer (talk) 00:44, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Economy of Ohio
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Proposed deletion of Robert Wiedemer


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FAR for United States Academic Decathon
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New Category:United States templates parameter issues
A new category for grouping tracking categories automatically added by templates related to the United States. Feel free to add its subcategories to your watchlist and to add other related template tracking categories to it. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:58, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Publicising RM: Iraqi conflict (2003–present) → Iraqi conflict (2003–2017)
Please see here: Talk:Iraqi_conflict_(2003–present) FOARP (talk) 15:19, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

RFC on general & party elections
An RFC on the intros of general & party elections is being held. GoodDay (talk) 16:30, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

"Nth Hardest-state to vote in" in state articles
It looks like a reference to "Cost of Voting in the American States: 2020" was added to every state article. I have removed it from half-a-dozen of them, and at least one of those removals was reverted. (Note Special:Diff/1146264414 as an example.)

The main rationale: this is a primary source. Without interpretation or context, saying "Arizona was ranked as the 21st-hardest state for citizens to vote in" is fairly meaningless. But, we cannot interpret the primary source.

Also, this is too detailed and irrelevant for a top-level article on a state; the information is also in Elections in Arizona -- while it shouldn't be in the lead there (which is among the many other problems with that article), I am not opposed to it being in that article in some way. Walt Yoder (talk) 16:41, 27 March 2023 (UTC)


 * See where this was discussed before. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 16:43, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It looks like the prior discussion leaned in favor of including it, when worded appropriately. Its from a reliable source, so I don't see any reason to doubt it. It is a useful statistic. Also, it is in no way a primary source. Its a scholarly paper in an academic journal. That is the bread and butter of Wikipedia. A primary source would be raw data that underlied their research, or the musings of politicians. But this source has analysis, reflection, and citation which makes them a secondary source. I'm not seeing why we shouldn't include it. I agree it shouldn't be in the lead. CaptainEek</b> <i style="font-size:82%; color:#a479e5">Edits Ho Cap'n!</i>⚓ 18:43, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

How far back to go for Demographics?
Hello all, just curious as to how far back the demographics of a place should go? My initial assumption was an article should only contain the most recent census but I've seen some articles that post previous decade's census. I also tried looking through the MoS and other resources but couldn't find an answer.

To be more exact, I am wondering if entire data from the 2010 and 2000 censuses' are helpful in an article. Two examples I found were Green Bay, Wisconsin and Rutherford, New Jersey. The articles are already quite lengthy and include the last 3 censuses vs just the most current. I could see, for example, including the population of Green Bay at the start of industrialization vs after to provide historical context, but I am not sure if 10 and 20 year old census info is adding anything. I asked this on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/Settlements: Article structure but was advised it might be a good idea to bring the question here as it would likely affect lots of articles. Thanks for any input. Amscheip (talk) 23:45, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Great Raid of 1840
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First ladies of the United States
I've created a page at User:Thebiguglyalien/First ladies of the United States to track the progress of the U.S. first lady articles, with the goal of getting them all to good article status. I encourage anyone interested in this to look at it and see if there are any articles they'd consider improving. Thebiguglyalien ( talk ) 20:47, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Wisconsin - an authoritarian enclave
A content dispute at Wisconsin the would benefit from the input of editors experienced with US politics. A recent edit describes the Badger State as an "authoritarian enclave" and "democracy desert", with "free but not fair" elections. There is a discussion at Talk:Wisconsin. --Magnolia677 (talk) 16:00, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Lowell mill girls
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FAR For USS Wisconsin
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Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass WPBannerMeta a new custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:11, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

FAR for Bernard Williams
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Good article reassessment for Flag of Indiana
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Good article reassessment for Red Auerbach
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Discussion of interest
This discussion may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:40, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:B. J. Pak
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Good article reassessment for Gene Robinson
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Good article reassessment for Newport News, Virginia
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Requested move at Talk:Jonathan Stone
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Afghanistan conflict (1978–present) move discussion
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Seeking review on Louis DeJoy section draft
Hey there! I recently placed an edit request on the Talk page for U.S. postmaster general Louis DeJoy that I think editors at this WikiProject might be interested in. My request proposes an updated version of the article's Postmaster general section, which covers DeJoy's tenure at the Postal Service. My main goals in revising the section were to: 1.) add new information drawn from news coverage that has been published over the past few years, and 2.) solidify existing content by clarifying facts and/or adding new sourcing. I'm a USPS employee, which is why I'm using the edit request system. I know that my COI means I have to make suggestions and then defer to the judgment of independent editors. If you would like to view my edit request, which details all the specific changes made within my section draft, please follow this link. My draft is available within a subsection of my user page. You'll notice there are highlighted passages. That's so it's easier to identify which parts of the existing section I added to or altered. Brand new language that I have added is highlighted in green, and language that I have adjusted in order to make it more accurate is highlighted in blue. I know I'm asking a lot of editors with this request, so I'm fine with discussing this draft piece-by-piece. But I figured I would put the whole thing forward and let individual editors decide if they want to tackle certain parts or the whole thing at once. I'm totally open to feedback. Please don't hesitate to reach out with questions or comments. Thanks! Jonathan with U.S. Postal Service (talk) 18:55, 11 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello! I'm back to let editors at this WikiProject know that I have closed my full section draft edit request and have started to break out my proposed changes in batches. One editor has already helped me immensely by reviewing my first several changes, and now I've got a part two up on the Louis DeJoy Talk page. If you follow this link, you will see that I've built a table that compares the current text of the section against the revisions and/or additions I put forward in my draft. My hope is that this will make the review process relatively easy on anybody who's interested in trying to improve the Louis DeJoy article.
 * Any help I could get with this request would be very much appreciated. Thanks! Jonathan with U.S. Postal Service (talk) 18:47, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Any help I could get with this request would be very much appreciated. Thanks! Jonathan with U.S. Postal Service (talk) 18:47, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:PNC Plaza
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Discussion on whether or not to include being CEO, host, author, etc under Candidate Experience
I've started a discussion regarding this at Talk:2024 Democratic Party presidential primaries, which has more troublesome entries. <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 15:30, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

FAR for The Log from the Sea of Cortez
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Merger discussion for Deen the Great vs. Walid Sharks
An article which may be of interest to members of this project&mdash;Deen the Great vs. Walid Sharks&mdash;has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Chocobiscuits (talk) 08:35, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
There are currently over 2,000 BLPs that have no references. Due to the large number of U.S. biographies, about a quarter of them are about Americans. Sourcing in BLP articles is a high priority issue, and any help adding citations is appreciated. A full list of unreferenced U.S. BLPs can be found here. Thebiguglyalien ( talk ) 17:21, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Establishing consensus on abortion in U.S. state articles
This is a massively complicated RFC that can't be distilled into a simple "yes" or no question. So I'm breaking it down into five main questions.

KlayCax (talk) 03:06, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Should the subject of abortion ever be mentioned in any state article's political section? (Outside of historical information surrounding abortion.)
 * 2) If #1 is "yes", should information about state's abortion laws be included in every state's body? (Provided that the information from WP: RS on present law is available, verifiable, and clear.)
 * 3) Should U.S. states that are exceptional in abortion law have that mentioned in their respective leads? (Either through the criteria I suggested or an alternative method.)
 * 4) If #3 is "yes", is the criteria I proposed for #3 to determine what is "exceptional" in the "my proposal" section reasonable and should be used as policy going forward?
 * 5) (Optional) Is there any other suggestions/et al. that you want to add?

While Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey was in effect, the articles of states generally did not mention the subject of abortion — whether in their respective lead or body — due to the belief that it was a de facto settled issue within the United States (despite continued opposition to abortion at the time: there was a general belief that abortion access would remain relatively uniform throughout the country) and that mention of the topic would therefore fall under the WP: Trivia. Needless to say, it's now obvious that this previous editorial standard has become remarkably outdated after Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization. Abortion is now: 1.) Considered perhaps the most important aspect of state's laws 2.) Differs widely throughout the country 3.) A minority of states have laws on abortion that 4.) In ways that both expand and limit abortion access. (Presently less than 20% of present U.S. states.)

There are several ways to arguably tackle this problem. Since I don't think many people commenting (at least not enough to get a consensus or anywhere near a majority) will hold the position that:


 * Abortion should not be mentioned in every possible state's body. (An obvious absurdity)
 * Abortion should be prominently displaced in every state's lead. (Another obvious absurdity)

I think a solution that would probably find wide agreement would be based upon this criteria:


 * The state's laws on abortion are exceptional. They have very little parallels among Western countries, liberal democracies — or even internationally — at all.
 * Or the state's abortion laws played a key role in its history. (In theory/in case it does become historically important)

Judging by WP: Due and other common Wikipedia rules and guidelines, it seems to me that we can easily narrow it down to states that:


 * Have no exceptions for rape, likely incest, along with arguably fetal impairment. (The red, the orange, and arguably the pink and brown here.)
 * This would also include "saving the life of the mother" if a state passed a hypothetical ban on this. Presently, no state does.
 * Have no gestational limits at all. (Canada comes the closest. Yet they de facto often refuse to perform abortions after 23 weeks and 6 days. Several states have what appears to be the loosest abortion laws in the world. That certainly seems notable.)
 * In contrast, several U.S. states have stricter abortion laws than any area of the Western world — and countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, and Egypt. To me, laws with a greater restriction that that obviously seem to warrant inclusion.

My proposal
This seems to me a reasonable proposal:


 * State's laws on abortion are mentioned in every article's body but not lead. (Unless the below)
 * State's laws on abortion are only mentioned in the lead of a state's article if:
 * It is legal at all stages of pregnancy. (Alaska, Colorado, New Mexico, Oregon, New Jersey, Vermont) Almost no jurisdiction in the world has laws similar to this.
 * There are total or near-total bans with no exceptions for rape, incest, et al. (Wisconsin, South Dakota, Missisippi, Arkansas.) Laws that are similarly almost unparalleled throughout the Western World/liberal democracies.
 * Precendent setting (If a future case hypothetically results in major and overwhelming change to law — such as a nationwide change à la Dobbs v. Jackson or Roe v. Wade.)

Essentially, just the red, light blue, and orange on the chart, along with arguably the pink and brown.

Looking forward to a consensus being reached! KlayCax (talk) 03:06, 7 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose 3 & 4: I think you lay the case out exceptionally well, but I draw a different conclusion. Abortion law and its governance on the local level in the US is an exceptional circumstance with regard to Western nations. However, the individual restrictions or permissions are not exceptional. Take the cases of Liechtenstein and Luxembourg: both nations, due to an overwhelming religious majority, restrict abortion in the same way some of the most restrictive states do in the US. However, one does not find mention of this in their leads. There is a reason for this: these nations have a lot more going on than abortion (or, rather, the lack of legal abortion). The same can be said for US states, which often massively outsize in both population and area these two European countries. It comes down to a matter of WP:UNDUE. I think that each state's abortion law should be afforded due body mentions in this new post-Dobbs context, but unless we're talking about a major societal shift in a state hinging largely on abortion laws going either way (and not just in a RECENTISM-leaning way), there's no real reason for mention in the leads. ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:37, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Neither Luxembourg or Lichenstein Luxembourg allows abortion up to 12 weeks. Liechtenstein, from what I can tell, allows abortion in the case of rape. If they were hypothetical states, neither of them would have it mentioned in their leads under the criteria proposed. It is also, as you said, an apples-to-oranges comparison. Detailed policy is almost never described in a country's leads beyond its fundamental government structure. (For example: Canada's FA-article — as good of a metric as any for what an country's article should look like — merely describes the fact that it is a " parliamentary liberal democracy and a constitutional monarchy in the Westminster tradition".) In contrast, the leads of states often denote their individualized policies, culture, and political-leanings. (Whether it's Vermont, South Dakota, New Hampshire, West Virginia, New York, et al.) Washington's present article already mentions abortion in its lead.
 * Why do you say that? As mentioned above: several states are clearly exceptional (in an international sense) on both metrics. The scope of states relaxation and restrictions on abortion - depending on the state - is internationally exceptional. The United States has among the most relaxed (the most?) de facto/jure abortion laws in the world (Within certain states.) and the most strict of any Western country or liberal democracy. (Within certain states.)
 * A single sentence in the lead is entirely WP: Due in those cases. KlayCax (talk) 06:46, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Support 1, 2, and 5: based on notability: I agree that abortion laws are a significant enough part of a state's legal code now that they should always be mentioned in the body. However, for whether a state's laws should be mentioned in the lead I don't think whether they're exceptional should really be our criteria. Indeed, like most things on Wikipedia, I don't think that we should really even leave the decision up to us: we should include abortion laws in the lead when they're a significant part of the state's coverage in reliable sources, including especially nation-wide and international news sources. Unlike Pbritti, I think there are probably states that clear this burden: so for instance, googling "abortion" right at this moment without even mentioning a specific state gets me three national sources about a recent Idaho law, which I think is significant enough to justify mentioning this law in the article on Idaho (especially if coverage is sustained for a bit after it passes). Loki (talk) 04:49, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I think it’s perfectly alright to include abortion now that they can be widely different based on states. but I don’t feel so okay establishing a set of criteria as we haven’t had many cases to study. It’s simply too early and most of the discussion are just going to be based on hypotheticals at best. MarvelousPeach (talk) 12:14, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I'm wary of prescribing anything here. There's an old wiki (and encyclopedia) debate about what sorts of information should be considered standard within a set of articles vs. how much we should try to weigh aspects of the subjects based on available sourcing. I tend to err on the side of the latter. Odds are quite good that any summary of laws in a state should mention abortion not because of something inherent to the subject but because it's an area of the law that tends to get a whole lot of coverage. The lead is trickier. States have a long history, and I think it will be the exception, rather than the rule, where it makes sense to always include a certain type of law. Perhaps it makes sense for some states to include an overview of that state in the 21st century, and in that context abortion may come up? But again, I don't think this is something we can prescribe (or proscribe). &mdash; Rhododendrites  <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk \\ 13:02, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose, this is an overbearing prescription to apply to the various state articles. Abortion is clearly a huge and notable political/legal issue in many US states, so it's probably going to end up in many article bodies in some form or another. However, that is due to the individual relevance for each particular state. That is just the body. The lead is even further from consideration. I suspect for many states it might not even merit a mention, for those where it does it would likely be limited to "elections have been significantly influenced by debates over, X, Y, abortion, Z, etc". WP:RECENTISM is worth keeping in mind, as is WP:Summary Style. CMD (talk) 05:55, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose as excessive bureaucracy. This should be decided on a case by case basis for each state article, not prescribed as a rule. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:18, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose, as it should be decided on a state by state basis using the weight sources assign to the importance of abortion in the state. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:45, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Support 2 because it's an important topic. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 17:01, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose (which is effectively the same as "option 1") - this is an effort to over-emphasize a contemporary political debate. Certainly there are some states where this should be in the "politics" section.  But I doubt it needs to be in the lead of any state's article at this time. Walt Yoder (talk) 17:06, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose I agree with much of the oppose arguments. Changes to those state articles should be discussed at those state articles. Nemov (talk) 17:28, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

For quality reviews in Transnational authoritarianism
Sorry for leaving the messages for discuss issues on Transnational authoritarianism about orginal reaserch problem,as the local memmber suggest it should geting WIKIPROJECT involved,

The party in the case is well known in zhwiki communities for long of violatimg rules and acting like Wolf warrior,that keep on ideological battles and conflicts for no end with anyone against it. Those matters could be comfirmed by other memmbers in zhwiki communities if they could well defend the complicated annoying and unwanted contacts, attacks, intimidation from this user.

And in the case,it keep on editing with the idea of US repression on Edward Snowden AND Julian Assange，insisting the topic should be in name of repression and without authoritarian states, and would not satisfy only if there wouldn't be writting arguments agaist the authoritarian states

I would be ok for local professional memmbers to assist the topics,but as I have reported locally,the pattern of the user could make anyone involing the processes suffer,I suggest the parties of communties should holding enough strong mental powers for the matters. Longway22 (talk) 10:18, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Locations in the United States with an English name
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Locations in the United States with an English name that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. EggRoll97 (talk) 18:17, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Seeking editor input on United States Postal Service edit requests
Hello! I'm a United States Postal Service employee working as a COI editor to suggest improvements to the agency's article. I currently have two open edit requests on the USPS Talk page, the first of which proposes updates to the article's During the Trump administration section and the second of which does the same for the Coronavirus pandemic and voting by mail one. My goal with these requests is to clarify descriptions of certain recent events in the agency's history and, where possible, to add new information that's been reported by reputable press outlets. This WikiProject is listed on the USPS Talk page, so I thought it might be a good forum in which to find interested non-COI editors. If anyone here has the time and inclination, I would appreciate a thorough review of my proposed changes. Thanks! Jonathan with U.S. Postal Service (talk) 16:42, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

FAR for David Lovering
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Requested move at Talk:Sea Turtle, Inc.
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Good article reassessment for Matt Hardy
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Requested move at Talk:KLUV
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Requested move at Talk:Nicky Hilton Rothschild
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Requested move at Talk:Crunchyroll LLC
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Change a title
I was proposing to change the name of Bathroom Bill to either "Bathroom Bill in United States" or "United States Bathroom Bill." The part with Canada can possibly have a separate page although it is short. Cwater1 (talk) 06:51, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

CFM International CFM56 at FAR
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2020 Census demographics question
I'm going to update some city and county articles with the 2020 census demographics. For the race and ethnicity, I'm wondering which is preferred:
 * 1) List the percentage of non-Hispanics/Latinos of each race (White, Black, Asian, Native American, Pacific Islander, Other, Two or more races), and then group all Hispanics/Latinos together
 * 2) List the percentage of each race (including Hispanics/Latinos): White, Black, Asian, Native American, Pacific Islander, Other, Two or more races; also list the total percentage of Hispanics/Latinos.
 * 3) Either of the above options, but for each racial group, include people who are that race and another race (so people who are White and Black would be included in both the White and Black percentages).

For example, look at Fremont, California.

There is SO MUCH census information that it would be excessive to include it all in the article (as an example, we could list the number of people in a city that are Hispanic/Latino and both Asian and some other race). So what is the best way to present this? —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 23:56, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Resolute desk peer review requested
I am lookign for a review of the article Resolute desk before i put it up for FAC. Please feel free to take a look if you have time. The review can be found HERE. Found5dollar (talk) 22:38, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Most common name for Governor and Senator Brewster of Maine
Please review the sources and comment here regarding the name to be used by Ralph Owen Brewster.--User:Namiba 13:40, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory
There is a content dispute about whether the name of the article Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory be changed in response to recent non-conspiratorial allegations against Biden. The input of others at Talk:Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory would be appreciated. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:22, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

RM Re: October surprise conspiracy theory
There is currently a discussion as to how to retitle the page October surprise conspiracy theory, which is part of this WikiProject. A prior RFC closed with a consensus to change the name of the page, but those supporting the change were roughly split between two options: 1980 October surprise theory and 1980 October surprise allegations. In a follow-up discussion, the vast majority of editors said that they would prefer either name, but a few expressed an opinion for just one or the other. As such, we are seeking wider community input. Thanks for reading!-- Jerome Frank Disciple 22:14, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Content assessment
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Content assessment, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. &#x0020;This WikiProject received this message because it currently uses "Current" and/or "Future" class(es). There is a proposal to split these two article "classes" into a new parameter "time", in order to standardise article-rating across Wikipedia (per RfC), while also allowing simultaneous usage of quality criteria and time for interest projects. Thanks! &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 07:14, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

JFK Assassination Featured Article Candidacy
If anyone is interested, the Assassination of John F. Kennedy has been nominated for Featured Article promotion. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks, ~ HAL  333  18:35, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Gene King country musician
Please see question posted at Winnsboro, Louisiana. (This mention would no doubt be better posted at an active WikiProject Louisiana, but that WikiProject was long ago hijacked by WikiProject United States's banner directing readers to here instead.) --Doncram (talk,contribs) 00:09, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Robbins Airport (Illinois)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Robbins Airport (Illinois) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.  ❯❯❯  Raydann  (Talk)   09:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Requesting some copy edit help
Hi, I am user Bookku usually work in information and knowledge gap areas. Just worked on sandbox draft 'My Body No Choice'. I am looking for some copy edit help, if the topic would interest you. Thanks.-- &#32;Bookku   (talk) 14:20, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Another discussion at Talk:Second Cold War
The matter of the tag in the Second Cold War article is discussed. More inputs are welcome there. Link: Talk:Second Cold War George Ho (talk) 22:49, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Clearfield, Utah
The population and census info seems wrong at Clearfield, Utah; can anyone verify it? Kk.urban (talk) 20:17, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:22, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * So that population is different from what the articles says according to the 2020 census. The demographics section of the article includes number of households, pop density, land area, education figures, home vacancy rate, and median income. I'm not totally sure if these are supposed to be from the 2020 census or some American Community Survey estimates. Kk.urban (talk) 20:38, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No article should contain unsourced demographic data. I'd revise it to whatever the 2020 census says, and remove entirely anything you have no source for, then add an citation to the census. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:47, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I have corrected the false numbers and removed all the unsourced data. Kk.urban (talk) 20:57, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Areas keep changing
Does anyone know why the areas of counties keep changing between different years in the US Census gazeteers? I'm talking about things like this list of counties in Nevada. They release a new table every year and the areas have often changed significantly from Wikipedia's lists of counties. Are these the most reliable and if so, which year should we use? Kk.urban (talk) 05:21, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Seeking input on Louis DeJoy GOP Fundraising section
Hello! I'm checking in on this WikiProject to see if anyone here would be interested in examining some edits I've suggested to US Postmaster General Louis DeJoy's article. I'm trying to clean up a couple passages and add some fresh context to the section that covers his time as a fundraiser for the Republican Party. I'm a USPS employee with a conflict of interest, so I can't make these edits myself. I'm looking for interested independent editors who can weigh the substance of my proposed changes and either post them to the article or make alternative suggestions. Since WP United States is listed on the Louis DeJoy Talk page, I thought this would be a good place to look. Here's a link to my suggested edits. Feel free to engage me here or on the DeJoy Talk page. I'll happily answer any questions you may have. Thanks! Jonathan with U.S. Postal Service (talk) 11:12, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Lists of Americans is weird
I'm an American. There is no place for me, if I were notable, in the section By ethnicity or place of origin. And how far can your ancestors be to make you a hybrid American? Doug Weller talk 09:06, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Credibility bot
As this is a highly active WikiProject, I would like to introduce you to Credibility bot. This is a bot that makes it easier to track source usage across articles through automated reports and alerts. We piloted this approach at Vaccine safety and we want to offer it to any subject area or domain. We need your support to demonstrate demand for this toolkit. If you have a desire for this functionality, or would like to leave other feedback, please endorse the tool or comment at WP:CREDBOT. Thanks! Harej (talk) 18:09, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Missing article on major topic
Wikipedia does not have an article on Criminal justice in the United States, at least, not under that title. There is nothing of a general nature in Category:Criminal justice in the United States. That seems like a major gap in our coverage. There are subtopics, like Federal judiciary of the United States (and numerous state-level articles, such as those in Category:State judiciaries in the United States), Criminal justice reform in the United States, United States Department of Justice Criminal Division, Incarceration in the United States, Criminal law of the United States, and so on. Probably a new article could be created as a parent article in summary style, with brief sections on the major topics already covered elsewhere, and link to them with Main links. The existing Criminal law article is maybe the closest, but doesn't really deal with criminal procedure, or sanctions, or the organization of the judiciary, or history, and is mostly about the code.

Some "find source" links: Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 02:28, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * general –
 * history –
 * judiciary –
 * procedure –


 * @Mathglot: I notice that the article Criminal justice might not reflect a world-wide view of the subject. It seems to include a lot of US specific information and could be a starting point for this topic. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 06:34, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Osteopathic medicine in the United States
Osteopathic medicine in the United States has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:56, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Tax protester constitutional arguments
Tax protester constitutional arguments has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:50, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Undo hijacking of WikiProjects Louisiana and New Orleans
Long ago the WikiProject Louisiana talk page banner AND the WikiProject New Orleans talk page banner were both hijacked, so readers are directed to post here at WikiProject United States instead. This undermines development, discussion of Louisiana and NOLA community matters. Therefore I propose/request cessation of hijacking by eliminating the automatic conversion of talk page banners WikiProject Louisiana and WikiProject New Orleans. Hopefully this would give readers and editors a fighting chance to have successful, intermittent discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Louisiana and wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Orleans. -- Doncram (talk,contribs) 01:24, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Pinging User:Sceptre, User:MatthewVanitas, User:TenPoundHammer, User:GlobeGores, User:Otr500, User:ProprioMe OW, User:WhisperToMe, User:OtherAJ, User:Arundhati lejeune, User:Casliber, User:Totnesmartin


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Vive la Louisiane! Il nous faut sauver wt:Louisiana! Revive wt:NOLA!

N'Oubliez pas L'Alamo!

--Doncram (talk,contribs) 01:24, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Quoi?  Liliana UwU  (talk / contributions) 01:32, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * No part of this required pinging like 80 people, nor did it require the bizarre tone of this entire message from start to finish. My favorite part is the one user you pinged that has been indefinitely blocked since 2015. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:33, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * My issue is that WikiProject United States (in fact without agreement, but it was long ago) obtained an override over the WikiProject Louisiana and WikiProject New Orleans talk page banners. All the existing banners were replaced, and any new ones placed today are automatically replaced, by  or  .  Which directs readers/editors at the 14,756 Louisiana articles, and at 2,724 New Orleans articles, to read at and post to this Talk page, instead using local Talk pages.  People are less likely to brazenly post about local Louisiana things at a United States page (with my posting above at  being an exception), and they are less likely to see and read any Louisiana postings anywhere.  The experiment about moving Louisiana-topic discussions to here has failed.


 * There are still new editors occasionally arriving and signing up as members at both Louisiana wikiprojects, who are not welcomed and integrated, and are likely frustrated. I am frustrated that they don't find much activity and that they, too, go away.


 * I and others nonetheless occasionally do make postings at the local projects about local matters, and do want to have discussions or get comments, etc., but no discussion happens. Which is partly, perhaps largely, due to the misdirection of traffic by the WikiProject United States banners on all the projects' pages.


 * The 80 or so persons pinged have either posted about Louisiana matters or they signed up (mostly long ago but also some recently) as current members of the two WikiProjects. It is fine and good for me to call for some discussion and reach out to them all.  This is in fact the Talk page for all Louisiana matters, big and small, according to WikiProject United States.


 * The same problem applies for many other states' WikiProjects, by the way, and it will be fine and good to ping many more hundreds of editors to come here on similar proposals. One or more times in the past I have tried to get these changes done by requests at the templates, but that didn't work, if I recall correctly, because I wasn't then able to convince an administrator-gatekeeper of the problem.


 * So, anyhow, here, is there any other support besides mine, and/or are there no objections, to removing WikiProject United States banner from 17,480 articles' Talk pages, replacing it by Louisiana and New Orleans banners instead, and to disabling the automatic processes that have enforced the current bannering? --Doncram (talk,contribs) 03:41, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Please correct me if I am wrong, but looking (for example) at Template talk:WikiProject Louisiana, it says "This template is supported by WikiProject Louisiana." Clicking that links brings one to the appropriate Wikiproject. What is the issue exactly? I do not necessarily have any strong opinion on the matter, but I do object to the idea that you can revert a wrapper that has been (more or less) static since 2011 simply because no one replies in two days (over the weekend, to boot). Primefac (talk) 06:32, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * It doesn't have to be decided in 2 days. Thanks, that 2011 date helps me find my way to some of the archived discussions from back then.  I strongly disliked the hijackings back then and have considered them to be a disaster all along.
 * Perhaps the first discussion section was Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States/Archive 5, which started out"I have noticed that there seem to be a large number of US related WikiProjects that are either Inactive, Defunct or have minimal activity. I would like to recommend redirecting the talk pages of these to the WikiProject United States talk page. This will allow a more timely response to questions and suggestions...."(Emphasis added by me) That was nonsense, IMHO.
 * It developed further in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States/Archive 5. The suggestion was that it would supposedly save on template maintenance (not ever a problem IMHO).  Several strong objections were given, including:
 * I consider these [example proposed new WPUS templates] mostly to be constructed backwards. I want it to say (big letters) the article Michigan is parrt of WikiProject Michigan (small letters) maybe consider looking at Project United States. Not: (big letters) this is WikiProject United States (small letters) oh maybe look at Michigan's wikisubproject too. I am not going to see Michigan-related (misposted?) discussion posted on the first prominent link in the template (United States) because I do not follow or want to follow that project. Rmhermen (talk) 20:36, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Im sorry I am not following what your trying to say. --Kumioko (talk) 20:39, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I follow his logic, and I tend to agree with it. What he's saying is that in all likelihood a consolidated banner would put WPUS front-and-center and relegate all of the subprojects to second-banana status on less visible lines below WPUS's main template message, since that's the way WPBannerMeta treats a project's task forces and subprojects. For that reason, I also ask that WP:NY be excluded from a potential consolidation.
 * [and]
 * Personally I don't see the point of this. All I can see this doing is choking out the small wikiprojects making them task forces of one huge project. (While they may have their own letters having a banner is a big way that wikiprojects advertise}--Guerillero &#124; My Talk   21:28, 27 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Those objections were spot-on, IMHO. As I recall, what happened was:  most or all of the relatively active state and city WikiProjects opted out.  All the others, where there was not a reply within something like two days (over a weekend, to boot, probably), got folded in and, well, demolished.
 * IMO the natural level of discussion in Wikipedia for many things like individual biographies and historic places is at a U.S. state level. The discussion may be intermittent, but in my experience (in some state wikiprojects that weren't folded in, I guess) it can still be constructive, even if slowly, over one or two or even five or more years!  Local editors appreciate responses and take encouragement when they're pinged after long delay.  Folding all such discussions into one WikiProject US forum, which oversees more than 400,000 articles, simply does not, did not, work.  That eliminated all the slow discussions.  The experiment failed, and I personally want to revive many of the WikiProjects that were subsumed, starting with Louisiana and New Orleans in this proposal. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 07:34, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think you could deny that most of the WikiProjects for each state are semi-inactive or inactive. Perhaps Louisiana is an exception, but the idea of directing editors to a more well-used talk page where their posts are more likely to get a response is sound logic. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:53, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Hundreds and hundreds of category additions
The Cherokee Nation has gained official recognition over several counties in Oklahoma, though this appears to be mostly ceremonial, as many communities within its boundaries have little connection to it. There is a content dispute at Talk:Taylor Ferry, Oklahoma, regarding the addition of Category:Cherokee Nation, to every populated place within the Nation's huge boundaries. Your input is welcome. --Magnolia677 (talk) 14:00, 12 August 2023 (UTC)


 * As this would presumably affect a wide number of articles, it would perhaps be best to shift the discussion somewhere other than the couple sentence stub talkpage, such as here or WT:WikiProject Oklahoma. CMD (talk) 15:38, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll post a link there to the discussion. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:43, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Allegations of United States support for the Khmer Rouge
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Allegations of United States support for the Khmer Rouge that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 09:05, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:University of Arizona College of Optical Sciences
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:University of Arizona College of Optical Sciences that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 20:42, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Minneapolis Featured article review
User:SusanLesch has nominated Minneapolis for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:21, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:John Dodson (fighter)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:John Dodson (fighter) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 07:54, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Notification of relevant WP:VPPR proposal
Hi guys; certain states which use townships as their second level administrative divisions are a point of concern for a recent proposal I made at Village Pump Proposals. The link to the discussion is at WP:VPPR. I believe this discussion would be of substantial interest to the WikiProject as well as its affiliates. Thanks!  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 03:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Barbara Bush FAC
Barbara Bush is currently a candidate for featured article. Reviews and other feedback are appreciated. Thebiguglyalien ( talk ) 06:53, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Help evaluate contradicting refs for RI area
Please join Talk:Rhode Island to resolve a dispute between two seemingly-reliable sources relating to land and water area for the state. DMacks (talk) 23:59, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Aleppo Township, Greene County, Pennsylvania
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Aleppo Township, Greene County, Pennsylvania that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.  ❯❯❯  Raydann  (Talk)   20:49, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Number of "families" in Census data
Many US cities list the number of people, households, and families residing in them. I can find census sources for the numbers of people and households, but not the families. Does anybody know where this is available? (American FactFinder has been replaced by Census Data Explorer.) Kk.urban (talk) 04:42, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

2022 Philadelphia shooting
2022 Philadelphia shooting has been nominated for deletion, if any project members wish to participate in the ongoing discussion or otherwise improve the entry. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:39, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Philip W. Ireland
I’m working on an article of a 1934 airplane crash in Iraq, Draft:1934 KLM Douglas DC-2 crash. American Philip W. Ireland tried illegally to sell mail that was onboard of that airplane: see references. I did a search on this person and it turns out to be this person at Wikidata (so added a bit of information to Wikidata). But next of being a scholar it looks like he was an interesting person who later worked for the CIA and had several ambassador functions and had functions in Egypt, Iraq, Greece and Syria See here is history. Does this American meets the notability standards? 109.37.150.86 (talk) 19:08, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Created a draft outline page for the Iran hostage crisis
The page is currently over at Draft:Outline of Iran hostage crisis, for anyone else interested in contributing to this. Parham wiki (talk) 11:31, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Requesting inputs
Requesting inputs to review notability @ Talk:Anirudh Devgan for clearer consensus. &#32;Bookku   (talk) 18:19, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Category:American Civil War biography stubs
Should Category:American Civil War biography stubs be split between Union and Confederate? Please discuss at CFD 2023 September 10. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:11, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

1953 Korean dam bombing a war crime?
Anyone who is historian-minded want to evaluate whether the US bombing of Korean dams in WWII is a war crime? Then, take a look at: Talk:United States war crimes – ishwar  (speak)  04:38, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Women in Green's 5th Edit-a-thon
<div style="border: 6px solid #2bbf08; background: #FFF; background-color:#FFFFFF; padding: 1ex 1ex 1ex 1.5ex; margin: 0px 0px 1em 1em; font-size: 99%"> Hello WikiProject United States:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a  month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2023!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there! Grnrchst (talk) 13:53, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Draft review and c/e help
At my t/p, I had received help request from User:DPHMSmith to help out in the article draft  Manisha Juthani. Requesting visit to review the draft and c/e if the topic interests you. &#32;Bookku   (talk) 10:15, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

History of the United States articles
I'm looking at the history of the United States articles, and I wanted to bring up the cutoff dates. Currently, the series is:


 * History of the United States (1776–1789) - 13 years: American Revolution and Confederation Period
 * History of the United States (1789–1849) - 60 years: Federalist Era, Jeffersonian Era, Era of Good Feelings, and Jacksonian Era
 * History of the United States (1849–1865) - 16 years: Build up to the Civil War and the American Civil War
 * History of the United States (1865–1917) - 52 years: Reconstruction Era, Gilded Age, Progressive Era
 * History of the United States (1917–1945) - 28 years: United States in World War I, Roaring Twenties, Great Depression in the United States, and U.S. in World War II
 * History of the United States (1945–1964) - 19 years: Post-War Era and Civil Rights Era
 * History of the United States (1964–1980) - 16 years: Civil Rights Era and Vietnam War
 * History of the United States (1980–1991) - 11 years: Reagan Era
 * History of the United States (1991–2008) - 17 years: Post-Cold War Era
 * History of the United States (2008–present) - 15+ years

1776-1789 makes sense as the history of the United States prior to the ratification of the constitution; I'm the primary author of that one, and I didn't have any issues putting it together given these solid boundaries. But some of the others seem arbitrary. And of course there's also the fact that two of them are much longer than the others. It seems that most of the cutoff dates were decided on a whim by a sockpuppet in 2003, and it might be worth reexamining them. Thebiguglyalien ( talk ) 00:36, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * FWIW the library of congress uses these divisions:


 * Colonial Settlement, 1600s - 1763 (our Colonial history of the United States)
 * The American Revolution, 1763 - 1783 (Shifted a few years earlier than our equivalent)
 * The New Nation, 1783 - 1815 (splitting after the war of 1812, unlike ours)
 * National Expansion and Reform, 1815 - 1880 (at the end overlaps with civil war below and the material inside also seems aimed at being pre-civil war, so would take civil war as the end point here rather than 1880)
 * Civil War and Reconstruction, 1861-1877 (they link the civil war with reconstruction, whereas we link the civil war with its buildup)
 * Rise of Industrial America, 1876-1900 (civil war to WWII divisions don't correlate with ours, presumably as we use WWI as a divider)
 * Progressive Era to New Era, 1900-1929
 * Great Depression and World War II, 1929-1945
 * The Post War United States, 1945-1968 (similar to our immediately post-WWII article)
 * CMD (talk) 02:02, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

@ @ - I Propose the following changes to the History of the United States article series
Change History of the United States (1991–2008) to History of the United States (1991–2010) - 10 years

Change History of the United States (2008–present) to History of the United States (2011–Present) - 12+ years

-- PaulGamerBoy360 (talk) 2:58, 2 Nov 2023 (UTC)

RfC related to this WikiProject
There is an ongoing RfC to determine whether the United States qualifies as a belligerent in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war. You can participate in the discussion here: Talk:2023 Israel–Hamas war. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 20:09, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Postal Service Reform Act on Louis DeJoy's article
Hello! My name is Jonathan and I work for the United States Postal Service. Over on postmaster general Louis DeJoy's Talk page, I'm asking editors to consider revising a sentence about Mr. DeJoy's role in  getting the Postal Service Reform Act of 2022 passed. I won't get too deep into the details here, but the article currently characterizes Mr. DeJoy's involvement in a way that's slightly inaccurate, and isn't reflected in the majority of press coverage I've seen. Please see my Talk page post by following  this  link. Thanks in advance to anybody who takes a look! Jonathan with U.S. Postal Service (talk) 21:44, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

United States involvement in regime change in Latin America has an RFC
United States involvement in regime change in Latin America has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. WMrapids (talk) 18:35, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Progressivity in United States income tax
I started this discussion: Talk:Progressivity in United States income tax. George Ho (talk) 05:09, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

2023 in the United States collage submissions and discussion started
I have begun the submission and basic discussion process for the collage image for 2023 in the United States, which relates to this WikiProject. You can participate in the submissions/discussions here: Talk:2023 in the United States. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 07:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

7 World Trade Center featured article review
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The real events that inspired the movie The Sugarland Express
I just watched this last night, and was surprised to discover that not only was this based on real events and a couple did lead half the lawmen in Texas on slow-motion chase across a good portion of the state in 1969, but also somehow there is no article on those real events. There must have been significant coverage of it at the time, seeing as Steven Spielberg chose those events as the inspiration for his directorial debut, but I do realize contemporary coverage may not be online. There is an article on the state trooper the couple kidnapped at James Kenneth Crone. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:37, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Johnny Beecher (ice hockey)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Johnny Beecher (ice hockey) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. estar8806 (talk) ★ 03:09, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

The Final Four (Survivor: Borneo) nominated for deletion
Link: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Final Four (Survivor: Borneo). George Ho (talk) 07:52, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

MoS discussion on terms like "Caucasian American"
Please see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  16:43, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

FAR for Shaylee Mansfield
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Proposed merger at Talk:2023 Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis
Editors have proposed merging the article Kidnapping of Hersh Goldberg-Polin into 2023 Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis, which is of interest to this WikiProject.

You are invited join the discussions at .—Alalch E. 17:51, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Alleged Saudi role in the September 11 attacks
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Good article reassessment for Plymouth, Massachusetts
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Good article reassessment for Super Bowl XLI
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Good article reassessment for Yavapai
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Good article reassessment for Norfolk, Virginia
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One World (TV series) nominated for deletion
There is a deletion discussion at Articles for deletion/One World (TV series). --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:39, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Bound for Glory (wrestling pay-per-view)
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"Danish America" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Featured list removal nomination
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Good article reassessment for McCarthyism
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Good article reassessment for Chambersburg, Pennsylvania
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Good article reassessment for Rescue of Bat 21 Bravo
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Good article reassessment for United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri
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Requested move at Talk:Impact! (TV series)
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Requested move at Talk:Southern University and A&M College
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Requested move at Talk:Jack Brewer (American football)
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Requested move at Talk:Andrew Farmer
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Requested move at Talk:Nathan Hale (statue)
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Requested move at Talk:History (American TV network)
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Requested move at Talk:Superpredator myth
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Requested move at Talk:Eric Berger (meteorologist)
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Requested move at Talk:Statue of Roberto Clemente (Louisville, Kentucky)
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Requested move at Talk:Ohio State University
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Requested move at Talk:New Democrats
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Requested move at Talk:Tri-Valley-San Joaquin Valley Regional Rail Authority
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Requested move at Talk:Willapa people
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Requested move at Talk:Virginia Beach, Virginia
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Requested move at Talk:Charles Francis Richter
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Requested move at Talk:PEN15
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Requested move at Talk:The Beekeeper
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Requested move at Talk:Dave Hall (politician)
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Silicon Slopes article
I'm working on the Wikipedia article for Silicon Slopes, which just so happens to be the area I live and work in. Honestly, the article currently sounds like a business brochure. I have decided to make a couple of changes to the article, and am posting this comment, in case someone wants to discuss the changes I'm making. This is an effort to communicate, as I recognize that many edits on Wikipedia get reversed because no one communicates their intentions. Our (myself and my co-worker) objective today is:

- Clarify the wording "dozens of tech startups" which is a limitation in phrasing. There should be no finite number or limitation to the companies in Utah County that wish to identify as being located within or near Silicon Slopes.

- A few banks are listed in the articles notable mentions sections, presumably as examples of Silicon Slopes companies. These banks in particular have no relation to tech industry startups, therefore I am removing them. The offenders are Zions Bank and Discover Card. Nothing against these companies, but they have nothing to do specifically with new tech company startups based in Silicon Slopes.

– Teaminvise (talk) 05:07, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Seattle sea lions related article drafting help requested
I'm looking for any help finishing out this draft article on Herschel the sea lion. Herschel and a rotating group of male sealions who wintered at the Ballard locks in Seattle were a National news from 1985 to about 1988ish due to the purported impact on salmon runs though the locks. I've got basic outline bits but I've bogged finding more specifics and rounding out the article.-- Kev min  § 16:48, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

i want to become a member
could i be a member of WikiProject United States? Minecraft812 (talk) 19:42, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Future-class
Hello project members! Note that per WP:PIQA, all the class ratings are being harmonised across different WikiProjects so we would need to remove any non-standard classes like Future-class from your project banner. Would you like to keep track of future events in a different way, perhaps by using a parameter yes which would then populate a category. Alternatively it could just be removed and then the articles in Category:Future-Class United States articles would inherit the quality rating from other projects on the talk page &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:17, 11 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Does anyone know where it was decided that Future-class was non-standard? I've seen this used for a very long time. Also, WP US is a huge project, and therefore I wouldn't expect a fast rollout of such a change. Last, I can't know in advance if there will be any buy-in issues or not, but that possibility is there. Stefen Towers among the rest!   Gab • Gruntwerk 01:20, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Stefen, there is no "fast rollout" happening. The project was first consulted in February 2023 and then informed of the results of the RfC in April 2023. We are just now starting to implement the decision. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:41, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I meant that you can't expect a fast technical rollout from here out because it's not like flipping a switch on this mammoth project. Stefen Towers among the rest!   Gab • Gruntwerk 03:58, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The technical change is straightforward - I can make this change later today unless there are any questions? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:43, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't see how it's straightforward, because this will involve internal changes to projects that use and sometimes in verbiage refer to that class. Altering a mass of templates is just the beginning. Stefen Towers among the rest!   Gab • Gruntwerk 17:37, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Well I was talking about the technical change, because that was what you mentioned. Sure, there may be a few other things to adjust but there are only 53 articles using this class so it's not like it's going to be a major change &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:00, 18 October 2023 (UTC)


 * As a general reply (to WP US), are there any plans to add yes to this project's template? I was accustomed to having Future-Class articles in projects I work on and now there's no way to set it. Stefen Towers among the rest!   Gab • Gruntwerk 20:35, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Offhand, I can think of two subjects within the primary wikiproject I participate in that will have plenty of RS coverage before they happen, so it would be nice to set them as "future" once their articles are created: 2024 Kentucky Derby and Ali (musical). Stefen Towers among the rest!   Gab • Gruntwerk 00:00, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Infoboxes of the Democratic & Republican parties
Hello. There's a discussion taking place concerning what are the governing bodies of the Democratic & Republican parties. What should be in the parties' infoboxes. GoodDay (talk) 04:37, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Revising philanthropy section in Louis DeJoy article
Hello! I recently posted on the Louis DeJoy Talk page to propose a few edits to the Other donations and board work section. Since this WikiProject is listed on that Talk page, I thought it might be a good place to find independent editors interested in reviewing those proposed edits.You can take a look at what I've put together by following this link. In case it isn't clear from my username, I'm a United States Postal Service employee. In reaching out to this WP, I'm trying to follow Wikipedia's conflict of interest editing rules, which stipulate that I can suggest changes to articles in which I have an interest, but I need uninterested members of the community to review and implement them. Thanks in advance to anyone who helps out with my request! Jonathan with U.S. Postal Service (talk) 21:39, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Merge proposal
There is a merge proposal to merge The United States and the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars into History of the United States (1789–1849). The discussion is in a deadlock due to lack of input. The writer of the first article opposes the merge while I, as proposer, support the merge. More input is needed and appreciated. The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 22:40, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * More input and/or a close are requested in this case. The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 13:16, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Formal name of armed forces of the United States
At Template talk:United States Armed Forces informal discussions are taking place about whether the main article title, United States Armed Forces, is the best place to have the article. I initially raised these concerns when I noticed that the style "United States Armed Forces" is not referred to in United States Code, Annotated. The nearest thing in U.S. Code is "the armed forces."

All are encouraged and welcome to put their views at the bottom of that talkpage Template talk:United States Armed Forces; these discussions may be formalized into a WP:RfC at some point. Kind regards to all, Happy New Year. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:45, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Water supply and sanitation in the United States
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CleanupWorklist display of importance and class in alphabetic listings
For WP US subprojects that use CleanupWorklist (example) and miss the Importance/Class data on the Alphabetic listing (example), you can now get that data back as of the next CleanupWorklistBot run if you edit the bot's master per the editor instructions at the top ("The assessment project name can be overridden by..."). Stefen Towers among the rest!  Gab • Gruntwerk 20:19, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at WikiProject United States/Hispanic and Latino Americans task force
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States/Hispanic and Latino Americans task force, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. &#x0020;Best, &zwj;—&zwj;a smart kitten[ meow] 21:50, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Articles for small county-level institutions
There are a few articles floating around on county-level institutions. I understand this when these institutions serve very populous areas (i.e., major urban centers - examples include Clark County Commission, Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, and Metropolitan Council of Nashville and Davidson County), but there are some institutions serving smaller areas (examples from my own home state include Montgomery County Alcohol Beverage Services and Howard County Department of Planning and Zoning) that do not, in my mind, rise to the same level of notability. No doubt, many of these articles almost certainly meet the GNG (local and sometimes even state-level sources regularly report on happenings at the latest county council meeting, board of education meeting, etc.), but on some level these articles feel like they would work better incorporated into the county's primary article.

Ultimately, my question (which I'm sure has been answered before, I just can't quite find where) is whether there has simply not been the will among article-writers to create these articles (for county councils and other major county government bodies), or whether some policy/guideline/informal agreement prevents these separate article from being written. AviationFreak💬 19:17, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Shooting of Mohamed Bah
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Requested move at Talk:California's 1st State Senatorial district
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Good article reassessment for Leslie Nielsen
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Invite to join the February 2024 Unreferenced Backlog Drive

 * Also, according to WP:Petscan, 61470/113000 unsourced articles belongs to Category:United States and has Unreferenced. We need a lot of help sourcing these geostubs! CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 07:55, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Please be sure to inform WP US's many subprojects too. This sounds like a very needed effort. Stefen Towers among the rest!   Gab • Gruntwerk 09:15, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you! The article scope is still waiting to be determined, but if more members join in the drive, we would be able to cover more articles in a month. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 09:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It looks like WP US is already in your scope. I'm just saying that people in the WP US subprojects (including many states and cities) won't necessarily see this notice here. Stefen Towers among the rest!   Gab • Gruntwerk 10:04, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah, I understand what you meant by that now. I don't want to spam all of the subprojects though, so I just gonna post this notice to subprojects with some editor activity. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 10:09, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Sounds fair. I wouldn't think of this as spam, though. You're welcome at the Louisville and Kentucky projects, as far as I'm concerned. Stefen Towers among the rest!   Gab • Gruntwerk 10:17, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at United States Capitol rotunda
A request to uppercase 'Rotunda' is ongoing at Talk:United States Capitol rotunda, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:20, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Zenas Bliss
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Requested move at Talk:United States border security concerns
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Good article reassessment for Dean Smith
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Good article reassessment for Omaha, Nebraska
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Good article reassessment for Great Salt Lake
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Good article reassessment for History of The Simpsons
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Requested move at Talk:Hispanic Heritage Baseball Museum
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Requested move at Talk:Edward Clark (artist)
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Requested move at Talk:List of newspapers in the United States
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Requested move at Talk:Giovanni Reyna
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Requested move at Talk:List of entertainment affected by the September 11 attacks
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Requested move at Talk:USS Stark incident
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Split proposal at History of the United States (1789–1849)
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Good article reassessment for Roads and freeways in metropolitan Phoenix
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Requested move at Talk:Life, the Universe, & Everything
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Requested move at Talk:Ryan Binkley
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Good article reassessment for Wright brothers
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Requested move at Talk:KTON (AM)
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Requested move at Talk:New York
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Requested move at Talk:New River (North Carolina)
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Requested move at Talk:Progressive Party (United States, 1912–1920)
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Requested move at Talk:Black Irish (folklore)
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Requested move at Talk:Seton Hall reports
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Good article reassessment for Kansas City Chiefs
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"Wikipedia:USR" listed at Redirects for discussion
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List of Washington Commanders seasons at WP:FLRC
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Requested move at Talk:Puyallup people
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Race/ethnicity maps being added to more than a hundred articles
I'd like some opinions please about the efforts of an editor here to add race and ethnicity maps to a very large number of articles. Example edit:. See CensusDots' contributions for more examples. I've blocked the editor User:CensusDots who has been adding these, but not because they are adding them. I blocked them because the account appears to represent the organization that has put these maps together, which violates our username policy. Should we really be adding such maps? Opinions please. --Hammersoft (talk) 04:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Here we go again. The same old nonsense, perpetuating old perceptions of 'race' as biological fact rather than the social construct it clearly is. With the added bonus of turning 'Hispanic' into a race. It isn't. It isn't even an ethnicity. It is a linguistic category. The maps are absurd anyway, since the source (censusdots.com) claims that 'Each dot represents one person', which is clearly impossible on any map compiled from census data, or indeed in any map of a scale capable of being displayed on Wikipedia. The website also claims that their map is copyright. And just to add further uselessness, the way colours are blended together means that nobody will be able to make sense of the maps anyway. Delete the lot. AndyTheGrump (talk) 10:19, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Template:Late night television in the United States
You are invited to join the discussion at Template_talk:Late_night_television_in_the_United_States, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Spinixster  (chat!)  07:27, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Ongoing Requested Move Discussion
There is a proposed and ongoing requested move discussion to move 2023–24 US winter to 2023–24 North American winter. You can participate in the discussion here: Talk:2023–24 US winter. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 16:56, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Chinese language and varieties in the United States
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Chinese language and varieties in the United States that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 01:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Capital punishment
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Capital punishment that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 01:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Invite to join the Derby 150 article development and backlog drive
Stefen Towers among the rest!  Gab • Gruntwerk 05:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for George Rogers Clark National Historical Park
George Rogers Clark National Historical Park has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Hog Farm Talk 14:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Architecture of the United States
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Architecture of the United States that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.  ❯❯❯  Raydann  (Talk)   20:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Category:American politicians who are the most recent member of their party to hold statewide office has been nominated for discussion
Category:American politicians who are the most recent member of their party to hold statewide office has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. 1Matt20 (talk) 16:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

List of Cleveland Browns seasons at WP:FLRC
I have nominated List of Cleveland Browns seasons for featured list removal. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. « Gonzo fan2007 <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 14:47, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Metropolitan statistical area
Please see the discussion here: Talk:Metropolitan statistical area Kk.urban (talk) 22:35, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Aging of the United States
Aging of the United States needs more eyes. An editor is writing a reflective essay on the subject and restricting the scope to aging in the 21st century. I tagged it as such, but this was reverted, and the recentism and essay-writing were justified because aging is "a recent phenomenon and people have opinions on this topic". The big ugly alien ( talk ) 20:03, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Article titles for subpages for New York State and New York City
We have a bunch of subpages that pertain to New York State and New York City (ex. Geography of New York (state) and Geography of New York City) and would like to get a consensus on what to do with the subpages. We already got a consensus on what to do with the main pages and was wondering what to do with those pages and titles like Geography of New York. Should it redirect somewhere or be its own dab page. My thoughts are that for pages like Governor of New York, it doesn't need to be titled Governor of New York (state) since NYC doesn't have a governor. My personal opinion is that unless the title has the potential to cause confusion, the titles are fine without disambiguation. But for pages where the title is ambiguous like Government of New York, I don't know what is best whether it should redirect there or be a dab page. Hopefully we can get a consensus on what to do in those cases. Interstellarity (talk) 14:28, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm happy with how you have it here, using disambig pages unless it's readily apparent which one it refers to. Unless I'm missing something, that seems to line up pretty well with standard practice per WP:DISAMBIG. The big ugly alien  ( talk ) 20:05, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Former statistical areas (metropolitan/micropolitan)
There are several metropolitan, micropolitan, and combined statistical areas which have been abolished, broken up, or combined into a different area, or simply had their boundaries adjusted. The most recent list, published in 2023, includes all the counties in each. It is available here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/OMB-Bulletin-23-01.pdf. I am going to work on updating these, and it would be great if anyone would like to help.

Related to this, should we keep categories such as Category:Pascagoula metropolitan area when the area no longer exists? Thanks. Kk.urban (talk) 22:21, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Question about California navbox color
Does anyone here have any insight into why California templates are yellow instead of blue?-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 02:58, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * @UCO2009bluejay It could be because it's "the golden state" or maybe someone just liked them that way. Personally, I think it looks good to use different colors and is less boring. The colored state navboxes are:
 * Alaska (sky blue)
 * California (yellow/gold)
 * Delaware (lighter gold/yellow)
 * Florida (orange)
 * New Mexico (tan)
 * Rhode Island (yellow)
 * Vermont (spring green/mint)
 * Washington (spring green/forest green)
 * West Virginia (lighter gold/yellow)
 * Kk.urban (talk) 22:28, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Richland City, Indiana
I believe the name of Richland City, Indiana is incorrect. It should just be Richland, Indiana. Maybe the CDP was named Richland City, and it changed its name when it incorporated. Can someone confirm this? Kk.urban (talk) 19:46, 28 February 2024 (UTC)


 * ✅ I moved it to Richland, Spencer County, Indiana (because there is also an unincorporated community named Richland in Indiana. Kk.urban (talk) 22:41, 8 April 2024 (UTC)