Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States/Hispanic and Latino Americans task force/Archive 1

Scope?
Should the scope be reworded? Feel free to make suggestions on all aspects of this WikiProject.--JuanMuslim 1m 03:09, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Scope? and DEFINITIONS
My major question/concern with this project is this:

¿Is English Wikipedia about Universal topiCs in the English language or is just aN encyclopedic book for people in the USA? .

¿Why?

Because that change completely the scope of this project and because many people (Hispanic and Latinos) will not agreed or participate if the goal is to perpetuate misconceptions about our cultures.

In which case, we should even create another project for the real Latino and Hispanic cultures, not just what the people in USA believes is Latino or Hispanic.

The real definitions are quite simple, and I am sure every Hispanic or Latino outside USA will agree.

Latino: Has Latin ancestry, which usually means that speaks a language that came from Latin.

Hispanic: Native of Hispania (Iberian Peninsula) or has ancestry from Hispania.

Also there is no such thing as "mexican american", "puerto rican american", etc. There are 600 millions humans that are Americans that do not live in USA and are not USA citizens.

--Heosphoros (talk) 06:30, 9 April 2014 (UTC)


 * In some university disciplines, Latino refers more to people of American mixed-race background, La Raza, etc., whereas Hispanic focuses more on Spanish (non-mixed) lineage. Obviously, there's no hard and fast rule, and people with mixed-race ancestry can certainly deny that. But the term Latino would be more celebratory of their difference from Euro-only Hispanics. As for -American, yes, you are correct, but in the US, "American" is commonly (albeit incorrectly) used to refer to US residents/citizens, e.g., African Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc. So until we can break that habit, Mexican American, Cuban American, etc. are what are most commonly used. FWIW.... Aristophanes 68   (talk)  02:37, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Just wrote and email to Wikipedia asking to clarify how to apply the Neutral Point of View policy in this situation. Either we use an Universal definition, which is the correct one for an Universal Wikipedia, or they force an "anglocentric" usage, which will cause many of us to abandon the ship, as the goal of the site will be to serve only "white people" in the US.

--Heosphoros (talk) 07:31, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * It's pretty clear from reading the scope that it's only talking about Hispanic and Latinos born or raised in the US because that's what the intent for the members of the project were. WikiProject members are the ones who define what the scope of a project is, not some "universal" or "serving white people" that you claim. Erick (talk) 02:46, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

All this is wrong
Al consideraros a vosotros mismos latinos asumo que habláis castellano.

Tansolo quería deciros que promocionar terminología como latino, hispanic, etc, me parece fatal, porque no refleja la verdad, sino una realidad inventada. Lo que estáis haciendo con todo ésto es fomentar el mal uso de estos términos, mal uso iniciado e incitado por la ignorancia anglosajona.

Además monopolizáis los artículos, como el de Hispanic, donde apenas se habla sobre las gentes y culturas que hay en España, estando el artículo centrado casi en su totalidad en los mal llamados latinos de los Estados Unidos.

Con todo ésto, en vez de corregir la ignorancia anglosajona, lo que estáis haciendo es fomentarla, añadiendo además la vuestra. Estáis alienando, excluyendo a los verdaderos hispanos de ESPAÑA.

Sinceramente, este proyecto, en vez de hacer pedagogía en positivo, solo contribuye a fomentar los tópicos.

Hoy en día un español ya nisiquiera se puede considerar hispano cuando va por ahí por culpa de todo ésto.

Onofre Bouvila 01:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Rough translation:

"When you consider you yourselves Latinos assume you speak Castilian.

Tansolo wanted to say that promote terminology such as latino, hispanic, etc, I think fatal , because it does not reflect the truth, but an invented reality. What you are doing with all this is to encourage the misuse of these terms, misuse initiated and abetted by the Anglo ignorance.

Also you monopolizáis items, such as Hispanic , where just talking about the people and cultures in Spain, with the article focusing almost entirely on the so-called Latinos in the United States.

With all this, instead of correcting the Anglo ignorance, what you are doing is promoting it , besides adding yours. You are alienating, excluding Hispanics true of SPAIN.

Honestly, this project, instead of making positive pedagogy , only helps to promote stereotypes.

Today a Spanish and can not even consider Hispanic when going around because of all this ."Mercurywoodrose (talk) 22:34, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree with this guy. The "Latino identity" is nothing but propaganda by fundamentalist people of Latin American background who want to belong to a "group". They feel so inferor that by creating an artificial identity they think that they are someone. Please, stop labelling, tagging and branding people under silly names. If you hold a US ID then you are an American, if you hold a Mexican one you are a Mexican, if you hold both you are a Mexican-American and so on... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.102.254.253 (talk) 13:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

De acuerdo con Onofre Bouvila y los otros. Debemos cambiar el alcance y el nombre del proyecto que no refleja en lo absoluto la realidad Hispánica; Latina o Americana.

Es hora de defender nuestra cultura y llamarla como se debe. Por cierto ¿Qué se supone que significa ese logo, el de águila sobre un fondo rojo?

--Heosphoros (talk) 05:30, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Latinos & Mexican-Americans
I know this is a stupid question, and I apologize. But can you tell me what the difference is between the scope of this project and the scope of WikiProject Mexican-Americans? It seems to me that we shouldn't have two Projects covering the same territory, as that leads to an unhealthy form of competition. Badbilltucker 20:44, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Latinos include Mexican-Americans, Cuban-Americans, etc. --JuanMuslim 1m 00:49, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Project directory
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Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 22:36, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Latino template
I think the questions of colors and images are secondary at this point. Right now we should be trying to determine whether or not the template is merited. Are there enough articles to add into it to make it useful? What articles should it be placed on? What benefit will it provide to readers of the encyclopedia? What are its parameters? Will it apply to all of Latin America or just Latinos in the United States? These are the questions we should be discussing right now. And to be frank, it doesn't seem like it will do much good at this point. Once the parameters are determined, then we can get started on writing articles that pertain to Latinos as a whole. The template should be like a finishing touch to enhance to a body of articles, not an outline to determine what needs to be written.--Rockero 20:53, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Any project, such as this template, can be broken down into a number of smaller projects – the presentation and the content or substance, but yes, how it looks is less important than the content. I would love to see a template for Latino/Hispanic topics that is as eye appealing and as useful as the template for African-American topics, especially with the growing number of Latinos within the United States. The purpose of a Wikipedia template is to make navigation easier, and certainly there needs be an effective way to navigate through the complex web of Latino related articles, and I think that in time the template will achieve that goal.
 * The template should be about Latinos living in the United States. If you ask a Venezuelan off the street of Venezuela if he’s a Latino, he’ll say he’s Venezuelan or Latin American. The terms Hispanic and Latino aren’t used by most Latin Americans. A separate template could also be created for Latin Americans if someone desires to make one. I’d like to focus on seeing a Latino template. The Latino/Hispanic template could state “Latinos / Hispanics in the U.S” below the image that will be selected.
 * For our own purposes, whether the Latinos are descendents or immigrants to the U.S. is less important. There needs to be a template that represents all these people who are Latinos and Hispanics. Therefore, when discussing Latino history, the article would include the history of all Latinos including Mexican-Americans, Cuban-Americans, Puerto Rican Americans, etc. The history article might include bits and interesting facts about the various Latin American countries. We, Mexican-Americans, make up over 75% of the Latino population, and thus, the history, etc about us will dominate many Latino related articles, but that doesn’t mean that our Mexican-American history is synonymous with Latino history.
 * I think that the Latino template can give us a bit of a direction. Unfortunately, the template reveals the important articles that Wikipedia needs about Latinos. The Latino / Hispanic template needs to be tweaked that is for sure. There could be a link to the article about Latin America, links to articles about the major subgroups of Latinos, such as Mexican American and Cuban American and the possibilities are endless.--JuanMuslim 1m 23:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Orale pues, that's the reason we made the Mexican-American/Chicano templates Chicano2 and Mexican-American. However, I think your idea of a navigational template for all the Latinos in the U.S. is actually probably a better idea since many of our organizations are inclusive of Latinos from all nationalities. If we make a template that is more inclusive, maybe we could make separate navigational templates for specific topics such as the Chicano Movement and Chicano Art, for example. What you are asking for, however, is a major reorganization. And here in conservative Wikipedia, you are bound to encounter opposition. So let's get it together before we start adding it to articles.
 * Here's my recommendation: we reorganize the Latino template to accomodate articles that already exist. One header will be "Nationalities", and underneath, Cuban American, Mexican American, etc. That's the only idea I have for now, and when I get back I'll help with getting it together. PAZ carnal, --Rockero 03:01, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure we'll get some opposition, but all we can do is explain ourselves. The best approach right now is as you stated, that is, to use what already exists. And, your help is essentual because you are more familiar with what Latino related articles already exist on Wikipedia. Then, we'd also have a better idea of what needs to be written or perhaps reorganized. For example, the article on Puerto Rico includes info about Puerto Rican Americans which would be good for an article entitled Puerto Rican Americans or Puerto Rican American. And, some links on the template could point to sections within various Latino related articles. --JuanMuslim 1m 12:58, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproyecto:Hispanidad
Hola. He colocado un interwiki a es:Wikiproyecto:Hispanidad. Tal vez sería interesante la colaboración de ambas wikipedias sobre el tema, aunque la verdad es que el wikiproyecto de la es:Wikipedia es muy reciente y está un tanto vacío. Saludos. --87.218.20.167 23:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Fraternities and Sororities
I just wanted to bring it to this Project's attention that the whole scope of Latino fraternities and sororities are highly lacking. They are almost all blatant advertisements, with absolutely no sources and no references to speak of. They are plagiarized from the home website at times, and badly need to be fixed. Jmlk17 23:43, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Proposal for renaming of Notable Hispanics
I see that an editor has made a proposal to move/rename the list Notable Hispanics. As this article is tagged with the WikiProject Latinos banner, I brought this proposal to this page so that interested parties could participate in the discussion. &mdash; User: (talk) 18:37, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * List of so and so is better. That would be most consistent with other types of list. It's current name implies its an article rather than a list. --JuanMuslim 1m 13:42, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

History of Latinos and Hispanics
Please refer to the talk page of History of Latinos and Hispanics. --JuanMuslim 1m 21:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Black flight article making strange claims.
This article lacks sources and makes a lot of claims about american cities especially with regard to Black and Latino populations. I hope that someone will take a look at it and help me weed-out the dubious statements. Here is a quote to give you an idea about what has me concerned here:

"The phenomenon of black flight has resulted in dramatic demographic shifts in some of the countries poorest inner-city neighborhoods. American blacks comprised more than 75% of all inner-city residents in the 1990's compared to just 27% in 2006. Black flight has allowed a rising poor class to emerge in many large cities, the Hispanic lower class. Hispanics today make up the majority of the population in 33 of the 50 largest cities in the United States, whereas just 20 years ago only 1 large city, Los Angeles, had a Hispanic majority. On the reverse, African Americans made up a majority in 28 of the 50 largest US cities 20 years ago, but today only make up a majority in 6 of the 50 largest cities."

Especially without a sources, this seems like it might be POV pushing? Help me out here?

PS. Check out WP:AFRO!

futurebird 15:36, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Refocus or rename *urgent*
Articles like Argentine American or Peruvian American are misleading, an Argentine American is not solely an immigrant the "Argentine American" concept is for a person who has dual citizenship or has heritage related from both countries.

No because I migrate to Africa.. I should then be called an African American.. c'mon!! -- F3rn4nd0 (Roger - Out) 16:43, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion
Since you are focusing on the "latinos" in the United States why not call it Argentines in the United States??-- F3rn4nd0 (Roger - Out) 16:45, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. We must rename all those articles to their proper names. --Heosphoros (talk) 05:53, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

I was just thinking
Please don't feel obligated to flame me for this.

Well, here's the thing. We all know about how all the South American and Central American, and other places all have this "Latin" origin to them. Being that we've all had been touched by Spain in some significant way. Hence the Hispanic thing. That I can understand.

What I'm going to muse might be something completely different, and may not involve this particular project, but may be rooted and have the makings of a new project. Nonetheless, This is only a mere observation, and understanding from everything I've read thus far.

True, we've all had or have origins stemming from Spaniard colonization, and we're all related in terms of who we have to thank in making us as we are today. There is no way we can deny this in any rational argument that we can have. But equally interesting is how we all differ ourselves as different and counter-nature to what Spain is. What I mean, I guess, is that when I mention "That we're like cousins to the Spaniards" or even "blood kin", everyone whose Hispanic like me gets all offended and really angry at me for making that kind of statement. But when we think seriously on the word "Hispanic", it still hails a sense that it involves Spanish - hence the Spaniards yet again. Even the word "Latino" or "Latina" indirectly points back to Spain, though generally to the greater part of Southern Europe.

I can't help but think that even though we may bemoan the Spaniards, the French, the Portuguese, and the Italians for their part in our violent history as "Latin Nations" - could we also consider ourselves partly as descendants of the greater Roman Empire of times long since past and only written in texts as proof. We all know how grand was this empire - that pretty much included the whole world. It was by far the greatest empire that saw a continued existence of peace and enlightenment other than our own modern times.

I can't really seem to think that there is anything far fetched in us having to attribute ourselves as descendants to this - as most of us do use the Romance or Latin languages to communicate to one another and use much of the Latin style of education.

I think we can have something in common not just with Brazilians, or the Italians, or the French, or any other Romance lingua using people - but to all peoples that have some degree of attribution to be made back to the originators of our culture and language - the Roman Empire.

True still, we should always remember our roots as Amerindians, as we are also descendants of those great empires as well. But we should accept both as a part of us as much as we are a consequence of them. I can't think of any of other cultural phenomenon that can boast that an entire group of people from all over the world can be identified as a unified adaptive culture that spans the globe, and are becoming more and more multi-racial. The English and the Germanic people's can't boast this too easily.

Reading back what I've wrote, I think maybe I should start a project involving Latin culture, which include Central America, South America, southern Europe, Africa, and parts of Asia as a whole.

I'd like some feed back, thanks. - Psypho (talk) 03:54, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Contribute where you feel you know the most. --evrik (talk) 17:10, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Héctor López
Help expanding Héctor López would be greatly appreciated.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Hector Lopez picture
Can anyone tell me if this is Hector Lopez. Please drop a note on my talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 22:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Latino/Chicano Literature project
North of the Rio Grande is an ongoing school project dedicated to improving select articles on Latino and Chicano literature. Among the articles we're working on are Sandra Cisneros, José Martí, and Julia Alvarez. We'd welcome any advice or help that members of WikiProject Latinos may be able to offer. Please come drop a note on our talk page. Many thanks. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 08:31, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Nominated Gulfton, Houston for featured article status
I nominated Gulfton, Houston for featured article status - I want to see if I can make a Houston neighborhood make FA. If anyone is interested, please help it make FA :) WhisperToMe (talk) 19:09, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Spain/Spaniards/Spanish
Just wondering if the article Spanish American (the article examines the presence of Spaniards in America) is correctly placed under this project. Thank you --Karljoos (talk) 22:52, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

It should be, per definition: Latino is any culture that has Latin ancestry, therefore Hispanics are Latinos.

WP 1.0 bot announcement
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Mexican Americans
I am going to propose making WikiProject Mexican-Americans into a task force for WikiProject Latinos (both seem to be inactive....) WhisperToMe (talk) 12:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but no thanks. WikiProject:Latinos encompases many subcultures such as Puerto Rican, Cuban etc...  WikiProject:Mexican-Americans address topics specific to Mexican-Americans, which is a specific category of Latino.  WikiProject: Mexican-Americans can not possibly take on all Latino topics - it's way too much!!  There's just too much diversity among us Latinos.  I am taking the initiative to re-activate both WikiProjects and to recruite new participants.  It appears the members of both groups are on break at the moment, but we'll be back.  Si se puede! Chicaneo (talk) 10:46, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

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A consideration for cross project consolidation of talk page templates
I have started a conversation here about the possibility of combining some of the United States related WikiProject Banners into WikiProject United States. If you have any comments, questions or suggestions please take a moment and let me know. --Kumioko (talk) 19:52, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Related AfD
Please see: Articles for deletion/Chicano vendido. Jaque Hammer (talk) 10:12, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

US Collaboration reactivated & Portal:United States starting next
Casliber recently posted a suggestion on the talk page for WikiProject United States about getting the US Wikipedians Collaboration page going again in an effort to build up articles for GA through FA class. See U.S. Wikipedians' notice board/USCOTM. After several days of work from him the page is up and ready for action. A few candidates have already been added for you to vote on or you can submit one using the directions provided. If you are looking for inspiration here is a link to the most commonly viewed articles currently under the scope of Wikiproject United States. There are tons of good articles in the various US related projects as well so feel free to submit any article relating to US topics (not just those under the scope of WPUS). This noticeboard is intended for ‘’’All’’’ editors working on US subjects, not just those under WPUS.

The next item I intend to start updating is Portal:United States if anyone is interested in helping. Again this is not specific to WPUS and any help would be greatly appreciated to maximize visibility of US topics. The foundation has already been established its just a matter of updating the content with some new images, biographies and articles. Please let leave a comment on the Portals talk page or let me know if you have any questions or ideas. --Kumioko (talk) 19:13, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Redirect into article
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Asian Hispanic and Latino Americans. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:56, 19 May 2011 (UTC) (Using )

Immigration Navbox
In looking for information about immigration to the United States, I noticed that the navigation box is titled Illegal Immigration to the United States and related topics, whose neutrality in the main article is under dispute. I would suggest that the navigation box be retitled to Immigration in the United States (or something similar) and that the navigation box be reordered to reflect the change. This suggestion has been also placed in the discussion of WikiProject United States and on the template talk page.--Enos733 (talk) 06:04, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Category merger
I suggest that Category:Hispanic American organizations be merged into Category:Latino organizations—they seem to be synonymous. If not, both category pages need category descriptions added that clarify the distinction between them. Aristophanes 68  (talk)  01:07, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Growth of Hispanics in USA
WhisperToMe (talk) 22:36, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yen, Hope. "Births, not new immigrants, push US Latino growth." Houston Chronicle. July 14, 2011.

Selena discussion
Please join in the discussion on the talk page to help expand the article to its fullest potential. AJona1992 (talk) 19:47, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Please read
Someone took down all relevant information about my family background from the page about me. It appears that some people in Wikipedia are singling me out for deletion and will stop at nothing. These may be the same people who have edited a page on "Saturday Night Special" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Special_(film)a short film produced and directed "masterfully" (according to the Wikipedia page), by someone who, with the support of some Wikipedia editors, has the sort of Wikipedia coverage worthy or a Hollywood publicist -- that is, laudatory and just plain fawning. Please, I ask you to take a look at that page and mine. They want to eliminate me, 'anonymous (street meat)" and my past and present efforts. By the bay, I was just interviwed by the Huffington Post on my inspiration and quest for social justice metaphored on "anonymous (street meat)."  The article will be published on Nov. 1st.  Thank you and kindest regards, Mig (talk) 19:15, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi -- just a quick response. There were some article about the WGA/CBS case comtemporaneously, in the Los Angeles Times and other publications -- -- but all of those have disappeared from the radar because it's been long and things are often removed. I've tried to find certain articles for myself, but have been unable to even get other than microfiche. Some people have passed on. That's why the articles cannot be found on line -- but a while ago, when the page was put together by Alarob and various other people, the articles were available. I was recently surveyed on my opinion of the Wikipedia free-lance editors. This was angled on the fact that there are few women involved in this process. I do find this process very daunting and have become frustrated with the twisting of my efforts and the removal of clarification and everything else. This is simply not fair. I guess that's why there aren't more women because this is not a very nice process and some of us do not have the expertise and with families and the like, do not have the time to devote endless houis to respond to numerous requests and deletions. But if you wish to delete my page for lack of any available or current information, I can't stop you. Time passes by and incidents are erased with time and forgotten. But I ask you to, please, don't make me go through any more of this endless back and forth because I simply don't have the energy. It's clear to me why more women are not involved in Wikipedia. Instead of support, we find many roadblocks. This is meant in the best possible way that I can say it -- although much gets lost in good intentions. I'm tired. I wasn't meant for this fight. I'd rather fight the banks and real bad people. Thank you -- Mig (talk) 22:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Fall 2011 Photo Contest
WP:NRHP is having a Fall Photo Contest running from Oct. 21-Dec. 4, 2011. I'd like to encourage anybody who enjoys photography, and anybody who is interested in historic places to participate as a photographer, a sponsor, or both.

One way that an individual editor or a project can participate is to sponsor their own challenge. For example, somebody here might want to include a challenge such as "A barnstar will be awarded to the photographer who adds the most photos of previously non-illustrated NRHP sites related to Latino history to the NRHP county lists." To sponsor a challenge all you need to do is come up with an idea, post it on the contest page, and do the small bit of work needed to judge the winner(s).

Any and all contributions appreciated.

Smallbones (talk) 15:17, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Hispanic Paradox
I am planning on expanding upon the article on the Hispanic Paradox in the United States. The Project Latinos page explains it encourages the development and enhancement on articles about Latinos and Hispanics that pertain to all aspects of Latino/Hispanic experience in the United States, and I believe that the Hispanic Paradox is not fully explained by the existing page. United States health policy has been and continues to be a major topic in political debate. Much of this discussion is to how best serve the underprivileged populations of our nation, including immigrant and minority populations of lower socioeconomic status. My proposed edit to the Hispanic Paradox will examine why, amidst the prominent correlation of poverty and poor health, Hispanic Americans have shown better morbidity and mortality statuses than their fellow non-Hispanic White, Asian, and African-American residents. There have been numerous medical, sociological, and anthropological peer-reviewed studies that I will use to improve the scope of the article. I would appreciate any feedback and look forward to contributing to this Wikipedia topic. Mschweickart (talk) 03:06, 20 October 2011 (UTC)Mschweickart

Source on English
Hi! I found: WhisperToMe (talk) 08:48, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Savage, David G. "Latinos Making Switch to English." Los Angeles Times. May 24, 1982. A4.

Proposal to add WikiProject Latinos under WikiProject United States
Greetings, I am a member of WikiProject United States, it was recently suggested that WikiProject Latinos might be inactive or semi active and it might be beneficial to include it in the list of projects supported by WikiProject United States, which Kumioko and me have added some of the projects like WikiProject American television and WikiProject United States Government under the WikiProject United States banner. After reviewing the project it appears that there have not been any active discussion on the talk page in some time and the only content updates appear to be simple maintenance so being supported by a larger project might be beneficial. This discussion is intended to start the process of determining if the project members are interested in the project being added to the projects supported by WikiProject United States. If you have any thoughts, questions or comments, please let me know. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions)  01:59, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello Jj98! Are you still considering this possibility? I would also like to see this Wikiproject come back to life, except that rather than merging the project onto the US Wikiproject I would encourage the creation of subcategories for Latinos from the United States within the category:American people. It's necessary to keep the scope of Wikiproject:Latinos international in my mind. Cheers! Eekiv (talk) 06:56, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

About Hispanic assimilation and drinking while pregnant
Hi! I found a source that discusses Hispanic assimilation in the USA and drinking while being pregnant. It says that as assimilation increases, drinking while being pregnant increases: Hope it helps WhisperToMe (talk) 13:20, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Stoeltje, Melissa Fletcher. "Study links Latino assimilation, drinking while pregnant." Houston Chronicle. Sunday November 13, 2011.

Hispanic immigrants in NYC speaking indigenous languages
Hi! I found a newspaper source about Hispanic immigrants in New York City who speak indigenous languages: I hope it's a useful source! WhisperToMe (talk) 15:05, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Torrens, Claudia. "Some NY Immigrants Cite Lack of Spanish as Barrier." ABC News. May 28, 2011.

Viral video and Latino stereotypes
WhisperToMe (talk) 19:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Grinberg, Emanuella. "Viral video combats negative Latino stereotypes." CNN. February 21, 2012.

More sources
WhisperToMe (talk) 01:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Arce, Rose. "'Mama, would you please speak English!'." CNN. February 28, 2012.

Barnstar Awards images are offensive:deletion?
As the subject header states. The images of a sombrero and a hot chile pepper play off of sweeping stereotypes of Latinos that play off of sweeping stereotypes found in the United States of Mexicans and Mexico. I would love to join this project but I would be ashamed to have such offensive imagery in my user space. Moving forward, I would like to nominate these images for deletion. Any thoughts before I proceed? Eekiv (talk) 07:08, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Update: As opposed to deleting the images, I propose removing them from the project page. Eekiv (talk) 23:35, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The person who made the image was User:LatinoMuslim and User:Evrik placed the image in the WikiProject tag. Why not talk about it with them? WhisperToMe (talk) 21:37, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * This award was made within the community and was meant to be humorous. The project is somewhat dormant. If Eekiv wants to suggest a new image, then that user should. Otherwise they should stay there until there is a consensus for a new image. --evrik (talk) 15:25, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I removed the sombrero award from the page. its humorous only within the proect, but unfortunately offensive to outsiders. i place the huelga barnstar as the main award. the jalapeno is probably unncessary, but i left it.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 22:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Hispanics and the United States and drug usage
I found: WhisperToMe (talk) 15:46, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Rodriguez, Cindy Y. "Hispanic teens more likely to use drugs, study says." CNN. Saturday August 31, 2013.
 * "Los adolescentes hispanos en EE.UU. son los más propensos a consumir drogas." CNN México/CNN en Español. August 28, 2013.

Input wanted! :)
Hello! There's a discussion on Commons about the category Hispanic. I think this project should have a look since the discussion is directly related to this project.. Please leave your opinion on Commons: Here's the link Thanks for your time! -- Hedwig in Washington (TALK) 03:26, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Beatrice Kozera for deletion
Beatrice Kozera was the Mexican farmworker girlfriend who inspired one of Jack Kerouac's characters, and the subject of a film and an upcoming fictional biography. Djembayz (talk) 00:05, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Help at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Representations of Latinos in media ?
This article is a great idea, something we're really missing (unless there is such an article I'm just overlooking) but the submitter has written more an essay than an article. If anyone is willing to drop in and help him out, it'd be great to get this article up and running rather than let it fall due to a novice writer's unfamiliarity with Wikipedia. MatthewVanitas (talk) 00:12, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Request to expand History of the Mexican Americans in Los Angeles
Is anyone interested in expanding History of the Mexican Americans in Los Angeles? WhisperToMe (talk) 05:57, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * One could write books on that. --evrik (talk) 15:15, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Naming consistency - should it be Latino American or Latino-American?
I have noticed names like Category:Hispanic and Latino American female journalists, Category:Hispanic and Latino-American history, History of Hispanic and Latino Americans, Portal:Hispanic and Latino Americans, & Category:Hispanic and Latino-American history. Is there a naming convention that specifies Latino American or Latino-American? If not, can we have a discussion about it & arrive at a guideline? If this has all been discussed before, please add a Wikilink to the discussion & notify me. Peaceray (talk) 06:47, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The main articles tend to not be hyphenated, but many of the categories are hyphenated, here and at african american. I wonder too what the conventions are, if any.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 21:24, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Portal
I've tried to restart the moribund Portal:Hispanic and Latino Americans, but i probably wont be able to continue to update it. I know this project is also moribund, but maybe someone reading this can adopt it before im done working on it.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 21:21, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Merge
I think this project should be merged with WikiProject Mexican-Americans, with a good compromise name of WikiProject Hispanic and Latino Americans, as a subproject of WPUSA. i dont know if we could make the Mex Am project a sub sub project/task force. I also dont know if it all matters, as both are moribund, as is the portal ive revived.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:18, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Exactly what is the scope here? Is it only U.S. Americans, or Americas Americans, or any locality that uses "Latino"/"Hispanic" to refer to this group? If this deals with people outside of the USofA, then the Mexican-American project should be signed onto WPUSA just as WP:WikiProject Asian Americans was. If this deals only with people inside the U.S. then perhaps an WP:WikiProject Ethnic groups in the United States should be built to parent Asian Americans, Mexican Americans, Hispanic Americans, etc. -- 65.94.77.36 (talk) 06:06, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
 * It seems to have began as only focussed on Latino/Hispanic Americans, though the name is somewhat ambivalent, as some see Latinos as meaning many more than that. it sort of verged into all latin americans at various times, and the portal was also starting to cover all latin american peoples. I think it makes no sense to have a latin american people project, as we have WikiProject Latin America, which would cover that exactly. of course that project is also semi active, for what its worth. I think the idea of a wikiproject ethnic groups in the US could work, with these various subgroups as task forces. im concerned that no one wants to actually work on any of these projects. I think a decent focus is hispanic people of the US, with mexican, cuban, etc task forces as interest develops. I know i am currently interested in working on it, and on the latino portal. I have suggested my above merge/rename at a number of forums: wpusa, the project council, and the mexam project. If you see any of this diferently, but somehow want to move this whole subject forward, go ahead and do what you can. its not like were drowning in volunteers and different visions...Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:22, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
 * "Latino" seems to be used in Canada, as well as the US, so scoping seems to be a mess. All Americas should be WPLatinAmerica. A project for Hispanic Americans would be a good idea, though maybe it would be better as I suggested earlier, one that covers all ethnic groups in the US, each with each incoming project a separate task force. The Portal is more problematic, considering the various scopes for the term. -- 65.94.77.36 (talk) 22:41, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I think merging with United States would be fine as well. Just simply put "WikiProject United States|Latino=yes" as either a project or task force. Erick (talk) 02:30, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree that is probably the most practical. do you think that should subsume Mexican american, or be an additional task force alongside it? I think the Mexican American task force should simply be expanded in its scope.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:35, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I honestly do not know. Maybe merge Mexican-American with Latinos or just expand its scope like you say. I think we should be bring this up on the Council talk page. EDIT: In keeping up with the consistency, I think the project should be renamed "WikiProject Hispanic and Latino Americans" as you mentioned. As for Mexican-American project, it should start as a task force for Latinos as you also suggested. Erick (talk) 00:39, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Expert attention
This is a notice about Category:Latino articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 23:18, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Shooting of Antonio Zambrano-Montes at AfD
Shooting of Antonio Zambrano-Montes is at AfD. --Djembayz (talk) 02:24, 4 March 2015 (UTC)