Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Vancouver/Archive 2

November archive
Since wendrabot was slow, I moved last month's discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Vancouver/November 2006. However, I need to change this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Vancouver/Archive/November 2006 as this is the standard. -- Selmo  (talk) 02:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Vancouver
The Vancouver Portal has come a long way and our objective to greatly improve it, and possibly have it become a featured portal is becoming more realistic. The Portal is undergoing a peer view. See Portal peer_review/Vancouver. Mkdw talk 05:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

If we can sort the categories and perhaps add some infoboxes and navigational boxes, the portal would be ready for a Featured Portal review. Mkdw talk 11:34, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Vancouver Update!
The Vancouver Portal is now a featured portal candidate. Please see Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Vancouver and show your support. Mkdw talk 00:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Please show your honest opinion about how well you believe the portal meets the featured portal criteria. This is not a partisan votestacking process. Thanks. Rfrisbietalk 04:23, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I hardly think Mkdw was trying the rig the process by announcing its candidacy here. Bobanny 06:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not the announcement, it's the "and show your support" that indicates campaigning. In any event, the process is moving along. Rfrisbietalk 13:20, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 'showing support' can mean addressing feedback generated by the process or voting honestly even if you don't believe it to be ready to be featured as part of the process to get it there. Accusations of 'votestacking' is hardly assuming good faith. Bobanny 17:27, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I apologize. I look forward to seeing project members' critiques on the nomination page and/or improvements to the portal. Regards, Rfrisbietalk 18:24, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

My intention, and what I thought would be the obvious assumption in the context, was for the readers of this Portal to visit the review, comment (whether it be good or bad), and possibly improve upon the recommendations of said review. I don't truly see how I can force people to vote positively in regards to their own opinion and is completely against the foundation of Wikipedia. Thank you to everyone who interpreted what I said in its rightful context and assumed 'good faith'. Mkdw talk 18:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Vancouver streets
I have created an article called List of Vancouver roads, in the spirit of what was done with Ottawa and Toronto. It will hopefully be helpful to those who want to complete articles on the major thoroughfares of the city. I gather something similar was done for Burnaby, but of course I can't find it now. Fishhead64 23:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

SkyTrain station article merge
I think it's better to have all of the SkyTrain station articles merged into one list. None of them are notable enough to stand on there own. Many other station articles have in the past, been nominated for deletion. -- Selmo  (talk) 01:33, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Support- That's an excellent idea. I can't imagine any editors getting too excited about working on a single station article, and it would seem that to make any one of them comprehensive enough to warrant a whole article, you'd have to get into describing the number of fare machines and location of the garbage cans. I suggest pulling them all together into a list, which looks to be common practice for other cities, and there are lots of examples to draw on. It could be organized by line, include any distinctive characteristics, location, and a fair number of photos (of which the station articles seem to have an abundance). It would be a more useful complement to the main SkyTrain article than all the separate articles, IMO. I started something similar with Stanley Park to try and build an inventory without having to clutter the article too much. Bobanny 02:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Support Great idea! There are way too many skytrain articles that don't have any notability by themselves. Right now, there isn't enough info that exists about each station themself.Canadianshoper 03:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

University of British Columbia
I think this article deserves a B or an A — what do you think? Vranak
 * B at the most. I would personally give it a 'Start" except for the fact that the article is lengthy. The article itself is littered with external links and reads like an advertisement mentioning several non-notable aspects of UBC. Many of the links lead to student run operations. Also there are not nearly enough references and the few that are there are not properly formatted. You may want to try a Peer Review to gain some more pointers on the article as a whole, and will also be a manditory step before going for a good article review. I also think the pictures are relatively weak and could be bigger. Mkdw talk 07:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


 * On second thought I agree. UBC is more about geography than a bunch of silly clubs. Vranak

Just in case
Queen Elizabeth Elementary School (New Westminster) has been "prod"-ed. In case there's anything that can redeem it, at the moment I would say it's possibley best placed as a line in a table inSchool District 40 New Westminster Rich Farmbrough, 22:40 7 January 2007 (GMT).


 * I have deleted the deletion tag.Canadianshoper 05:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Collaboration of the month
I left this comment at the talk page for the Vancouver COTM, but I suspect that as no one's looking at the COTM page, no one is looking at the talk page either. Is this collaboration on its last legs? There are few participants and nothing has really happened in a month and a half. Agent 86 00:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Vancouver Portal
I would like to take this time to thank everyone who worked on the Portal:Vancouver. We finally made it a featured portal. This featured review is comparable to the one Vancouver underwent and we passed with a 10-1 support/oppose vote. That one oppose vote was especially difficult and I am comforted in the fact that our portal was not the only one having problems with that individual. Thank you all again and we're now closing the gap on being one of the most accomplished city wikiprojects! Mkdw talk 06:24, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!
The Portal:Vancouver is Wikipedia's 29th most viewed portal according to WikiCharts. The portal is one rank above the Portal:War, 17 ranks above the Portal:Ukraine, 25 ranks above the Portal:United States, and 67 ranks above the Portal:Christianity. Way to go! Mkdw talk 07:08, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Vancouver
Vancouver has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Jeffpw 11:04, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Similar WikiProjects
Your list is out-of-date. To keep it more up-to-date, you can transclude the following page: WikiProject Cities/List of city WikiProjects. BlankVerse 13:18, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not that out-of-date. It includes all the ones on WikiProject Cities/List of city WikiProjects plus their Canadian parent provincial WikiProjects. Mkdw talk 20:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry folks
Sigh, Marsden-Donnelly harassment case is at Deletion Review again. Please see Deletion_review. Kla'quot 01:45, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Vancouver/Burnaby roads AFD
Articles for deletion/Kensington Avenue has been posted up, with several streets in Burnaby as well as Hastings Street (Vancouver) bundled together. I'm too tired to comment just now, but thought I'd point it out for anyone interested. Tony Fox (arf!) 08:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Main Page feature
On Febuary 8, 2007, Vancouver appeared on the Main Page. -- Selmo  (talk) 02:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Direction of WikiProject
These last few months have been busy for all of us. I feel like that after the article Vancouver and the Portal:Vancouver we have not had a chance to all collaborate together since. I've noticed a large increase in the number of Vancouver-related articles, which is great, and it seems like now is good time to discuss the future of this WikiProject and were we'd all like to go with it. Perhaps a new plan of to do list? Your thoughts? Mkdw talk 07:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think we should be telling our members what their priorities are. We're all doing their own thing. We could take VCTOM more seriously. A WikiProject is a tool; it shouldn't have any type of instructions nor should it say "this article is your top priority". -- Selmo  (talk) 21:54, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Everyone is focused on the film articles. Picking a couple of them to improve would be a good idea. As far as Selmo's comment, it seems to be a bad faith comment as Mkdw's suggestions are asking us what we'd like to do with the project and says nothing about telling others what to do. Grow up. Langara College 01:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Let's try to remain civil for all our sakes. User:Langara College, I appreciate you sticking up for me but biting back won't help the situation. User:Selmo, I had no intension of telling people what to do. I thin you misread my message. I was simply saying that we're a cimmunity here and I was seeing if everyone was interested in working together on something or seeing what they wanted to do with the WikiProject. They very well could have said nothing and I think you should give them a chance to respond instead of saying 'you shouldn't be telling our members what to do". My comment was a question for them. I would appreciate if you did assume good faith on my comments for I do feel it felt hostile. Mkdw talk 21:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You see, I commented on on content not on the contributor. Langara, you may want to look at WP:AAGF. Anyway, I say COTM is the way to go. -- Selmo  (talk) 05:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I nominate a series of personality articles, i.e. biographies of personages not yet fully written or even started. A while back I proposed Chief Dan George as a COTM, and not just because he's an interesting subject but because he deserves far better than what's on Wikipedia. Prominent names in the cit's history also don't mean politicians and businessmen, although some of those need bios too; Count Hugo von Alvensleben for instance has mostl German nobility information, but pre-Great War he and fellow investors were - allegedly - fronts for the Kaiser's own investments in Vancouver's hot realty and stock markets; hmm needs a redirect but I know I saw a page on him, probably via a Von Alvensleben disambig page?). Arthur Sullivan (not of "Gilbert and"), Hugh Pickett, Dal Richards and others in the city's showbiz industry (Pickett was, among other things, GM of the Orpheum for years, and a major impresario - is there an article on David Y.H. Lui? or for that matter the grocery firm H.Y. Louie - appropriate if there's an article on Malkin's, which I'm not sure of). I'm not meaning to focus on entertainment here; civic and community leaders and just personalities - Sam Greer, who stood off the CPR's plans for industrial docks at what is now Kits Beach, I hope has an article already (he was quite the character, also).  Famous quotes on Vancouver is perhaps another subject for a subpage; "A city founded by a bartender can't be all bad" - Jack Leshgold, one of the original Gastown revival entrepreneurs, and Joni Mitchell's "they paved paradise, put up a parking lot", which somewhere it came out (citable perhaps) that it was specifically Vancouver she was talking about; somewhere in Kits, specifically, I think.  "Vancouver - it rains there, right?" by some innocent US politician once upon a time, who was of course ridiculed and castigated by the local press Duchovny-style, and so on. So there's some thoughts; I'm history-oriented but obviously there's a lot more modern civic infrastructure and culture and business articles that could use work. How's Seaspan International doing, and Cates Towing - both worthy COTM candidates if not already FAs.Skookum1 03:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC) Postscript that "Vancouver rain lore" is a whole subject-topic, but more like o.r. maybe than anthing else, despite lots being citable (Yvonne de Carlo's hatred of the Vancouver rain, for instance); maybe more applicable to Uncylopedia though ;-).Skookum1 03:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Postscript: Bobanny's list of vanished buildings is another worthy area for a focussed onslaught for the project. Also there's all the unwritten MLA and MP articles (or unexpanded from stubs anyway) that could use fleshing out, as also some of the riding histories and issues associated with key elections etc (the Elections WikiProject will soon swing into full gear, whenever the Tories call the next election, or are maybe drubbed into it).Skookum1 22:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Skytrain FAC
Skytrain is once again a featured article candidate. Show your Support or Oppose and any comments on it, and how to improve the article at this page. Canadianshoper 01:34, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Vancouverite
Hey guys, I wrote kind of a fun essay called You know you're a Vancouverite.... It's a fun read if you're interested. Mkdw talk 09:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Please see...
Talk:List of Vancouver SkyTrain stations.Thx.--Keefer4 07:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry I just noticed above User:Selmo's merge proposal to one list, which I assume was this one. I actually think the articles are, for the most part well-written and relevant. And there's precedent such as the individual station articles linked from: List of London Underground stations and List of New York City Subway stations as well as in Canada: List of Toronto Transit Commission stations. Based on this, therefore I oppose the merge and advocate the simplification of the incomplete list as it currently stands. Thx--Keefer4 07:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Vancouverite
Per request here is the link for the You know you're a Vancouverite when... essay I wrote. Mkdw talk 09:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Category:Vancouver streets name-change proposal
It has been proposed to change 'Category:Vancouver streets' to 'Category:Vancouver streets and squares'. If anyone's interested in weighing in on the matter, the discussion will probably be closed soon, and can be found here. Bobanny 00:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The change has been approved, albeit narrowly and without regard to North American precedent on the matter. Some of the same types now want to merge the subcategory Category:Streets in Vancouver which falls under Category:Streets and squares in Vancouver, which seems plain silly. You can provide feedback, here.--Keefer4 02:55, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Lower Mainland-Vancouver Island
I came across this orphaned article. I'm generally more of an inclusionist than deletionist, but besides being a very stubby orphan, I don't buy the premise of the article, that these two places are beginning to form a larger metropolitan area. Anyone else have thoughts? My instinct is to nominate it for deletion. Bobanny 01:42, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Can't argue with some of the sentiment in this article. However, I've only heard this type of association made in a vague context or reference to the growth of the respective regions in contemporary literature. Even with population growth perhaps spurring a select few people to call it an urban area, the title of the article implies the entire island and Lower Mainland as being two urban areas, which is preposterous. Yup, all those latte swilling commuters from Holberg to Chilliwack ;)... As it stands, a definite delete.--Keefer4 02:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Almost forgot about this. Articles for deletion/Lower Mainland-Vancouver Island. bobanny 07:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Ad banner
Qxz created this animated ad banner for wikiproject Vancouver.



--Canadianshoper 01:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Hah! Where should we put it. Probably can't put it here :p AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 03:35, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The userpage is the purpose! --Canadianshoper 04:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Kitsilano Boys' Band
Or Kitsilano Boys Band, I'm not sure of the official spelling.


 * Oh! OK, great!  post follows anyway.Skookum1 08:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)  OK, just had a look at it and added the Vancouver project template to it; needs expansion, nominate for move to expansion list overleaf.Skookum1 08:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * (original post continues:) I didn't see an article requests section here like on the BC project so am placing this here; this occurred to me while pondering a Kitsilano disambig page, because of the native name Qhahtsahlano-as-Kitsilano, with Kitsilano Beach, Kitsilano High School, and other institutional or infrastructure items. I see the Kitsilano Showboat has a section on the Kitsilano page, but I think there's enough there for that to be its own article; who built it, famous names that have played there, "institutions" that have played there (the Boys Band, but it's notable for all the local dance and theatre groups from within the community); same idea as Malkin Bowl having a page, which I hope it does by now.  The Boys Band have a long history and the bio of its founder/leader is interesting, though I've forgotten the details of what I'd heard.  There's also the British Columbia Beefeater Band ( originally called the Vancouver Junior Band which was formed in the early 1950's by Gordon Olsen) another major brass-band institution, in a city which once had many, but these were the best (other than HMS Naden, who are still around though a shadow of their one-time marching strength; not sure of the quality of the police brass band these days...think they're more into pipes...).  Just outside the GVRD there used to be the St. Mary' Indian Drum and Bugle Corps wich was an amazing show, and there might have been another such unit in Chilliwack; now defunct both of them but once long-time musical institutions, and the pride of the native kids of the time; the sound of massed glockenspeils and cornets is a totally unique experience, makes bagpipes seem tame by comparison and way more fun, too.  There's another couple of youth outfits that are notable in Vancouver/regional history; I'll see what I can remember another time; in the meantime:


 * New Westminster Philharmonic Orchestra; or is the Vancouver Philharmonic Orchestra and the New Westminster Symphony Orchestra; there used to be two, something tells me they merged; I'll look into it; this and other regional orchestras in BC (Prince George Symphony Orchestra, Kelowna, Kamloops have their own too, I believe, as also Comox/Courtenay maybe, eg.) should probably get articles, no?
 * Vancouver Youth Orchestra - I think that's what it's called, the local branch plant of the National Youth Orchestra (or National Youth Orchestra of Canada as the titlehas to be because the main one is the National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain). Either that or an article of Regional Orchestras in British Columbia or List of symphony orchestras in British Columbia maybe, but the list implies separate articles where the not-list title isn't meant to, if not desired.  Most are modern inventions so there's not a lot of history there; not so with the Vancouver Philharmonic and the New West Orchestra (as also the Royal City Musical Society), they've been around a long time and have article-weighty stuff behind them, even though they're still amateur orchestras and not funded, or even with full roster, as with the VSO an the CBC orch and other chamber orchs.  It's a pity, i.e. that New West - which prides itself on its high-society past - doesn't have an orchestra, or a venue for it, as I'm pretty sure they've had an orchestra for longer than Vancouver has; the VSO used to be the house orchestra in the old Capitol Theatre (Vancouver), in the '20s; but when a formal orchestra was first organized, i.e. not as a pack of sidemen for opera, vaudeville or theatre/dance, I'm not sure; when New West's was in its heyday I'm also not sure, but as with other things to do with the Royal City there's a whole lost time/world and urbane sophistication in New West - almost more like Victoria than Vancouver; the Philharmonic, as its name implies ("love of music"), is a volunteer/amateur orchestra and may not be connected to that history, however.Skookum1 08:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

SkyTrain stations
Although I am not a member of WikiProject Vancouver (and have no affliliation with Vancouver), I would like to state a problem universial to all Skytrain station articles.

The section regarding neighbouring stations in all those articles are called "The next station is...". This is very strange. According to WP:HEAD, "heading titles should be nouns or noun phrases". See:
 * Burrard Station
 * Lougheed Town Centre Station
 * Commercial Drive Station
 * New Westminster Station
 * Waterfront Station

I think it would be better for that section to be renamed something else. -- : Raphaelmak : [ talk ] [ contribs ] 14:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I can explain why that would be happening on the articles. That's the phrase used on the SkyTrain when approaching a new station. Kaiser matias 20:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I see, but it probably puts other people who visit those articles and do not know this fact in doubt.-- : Raphaelmak : [ talk ] [ contribs ] 03:46, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It hasn't for you, or anyone else that I know of, yet. I do see your point, though. --Keefer | Talk 03:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Meet up?
Are there any meet ups for WikiProject Vancouver? AQu01rius (User • Talk) 03:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I heard one was held last year, but nothing else has popped up.--Canadianshoper 05:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the closest anyone has come lately were some interviews done by a Courier journalist. Mkdw talk 06:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I was gonna talk to that journalist but then I had no time. AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 17:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * There was an email list set up for that purpose somewhere, but it was before the project was renovated and I'm not sure it still exists. bobanny 18:08, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Kevin Potvin
Just a note that this article has been subject to POV-warring and concerns over biography of living persons issues have come-up. Currently it's protected and being addressed at biography of living persons noticeboard. Perhaps if more people add it to their watchlist, the subject's concerns over libelous content could be alleviated and it could be unprotected. bobanny 18:21, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Photos
I spent part of today shooting a few pictures out at Deas Island, which is one of the areas that are on the requested photos list to flesh out the Commons gallery. So, once I've downloaded and processed them, does anyone know where the best place to put them would be? Are there some up on Commons already I could add these ones to? I just started an account over there, so I'm good on that end, just need some ideas on where to put things. Thanks! Tony Fox (arf!) 01:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Just be sure to add them to the Category:Vancouver, or whatever relevant sub-cat so others can find them. The photo collection over there is growing pretty large, definitely a good thing. bobanny 01:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Bigger by five now! I should add a couple of others that I uploaded here, now that I know what I'm doing. Tony Fox (arf!) 02:35, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Winona Park merger into Marpole
Hey, I proposed the merger there and want you guys to know so that I won't damage someone's work. Thanks. --Futurano 20:35, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Schools deletion
You may be interested to know that the AfD gang is going after Richmond elementary schools, and others in BC. People voting for deletion naturally have no connection with Canada. There is currently a process on at Articles for deletion/Henry Anderson Elementary School, and several others have been deleted without warning. One of them managed to amend Template:RichmondBCSchools to remove all elementary schools, thus concealing his efforts. Hope you can help. Eclecticology 22:45, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Vancouver in the Courier
Well the WikiProject Vancouver made the front page of the Vancouver Courier on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 in an article named, The Wiki Way. Thought I'd post it for you all. Mkdw talk 21:53, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Portal:Vancouver
The Portal:Vancouver is undergoing a featured portal review. Unless someone decides to update the portal, this month and next month, it will lose its featured status. Mkdw talk 22:26, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Need help from someone on the ground: Sam Kee Building
Hello! The article for the Sam Kee Building both makes a claim which is dubious (that it is the narrowest commercial building in the world) and provides a statistic which is clearly contradicted by the photo associated with the article. It appears that someone is claiming that at its narrowest the Sam Kee Building is only 4' 11" wide while it appears to be appx. 20' wide in the photo.

Is there anybody on the ground in VC who can (a) clarify the building's claim to fame and (b) clarify the actual stats associated with it and (c) possibly contribute photos that are more informative? Thanks much! --AStanhope 23:13, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've been by the building many times, and I believe the claim is true. It is deceptive when you see the building, as it's attached to another building. If I get a chance tomorrow I'll drop by and see if I can get an alternate picture.--Bookandcoffee 08:35, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * A five second google search indicates through several sources that it's in the Guiness Book of World Records as the world's narrowest building. At least a couple of the refs seem to be very legitimate and cite-able. Anchoress 08:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * In particular, this reference at the City of Vancouver site should suffice. Anchoress 08:56, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * He's got Ripley's and Guinness Book stuff posted at the building. I've done a little googling on this before, but some clarification would help, specifically, which part measures 4'11''? There's a building in the US that was claiming to be skinnier, the Skinny Building I think it's called, but it's hard to tell if they have a valid claim without this info. bobanny 22:19, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Portal:Vancouver again
Hey guys, we need some new content for the Portal Vancouver. Ideas for upcoming Showcase articles, pictures, and biographies. Some new Did You Knows... would also help. Any suggestions? Mkdw talk 20:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Rename proposal
I propose that WikiProject Vancouver rename itself as WikiProject Metro Vancouver. Why? The use of the name and the flag promote the idea that we're focused just on the city limits. However, the project scope is actually the surrounding region. Switching would also align us with the GVRD which is changing its name to Metro Vancouver. The change would make work-in-Vancouver, live-in-suburb Wikipedians feel more at home and encourage more collaboration on topics in the surrounding area. What do you think? Canuckle 23:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. Maybe we should use the Metro Vancouver flag as well. --Canadianshoper 19:18, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The change would be appropriate, even if the name isn't official yet. (FYI, I've had to move the GVRD article back to its proper name as it was prematurely moved. The change still requires provincial approval, and wouldn't be official until September anyways.) --Ckatz chat spy  20:47, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. It's a little confusing the way it is now. There should also be a separate City of Vancouver article, not to replicate Vancouver, but just to put it on the same footing as other metro cities.bobanny 22:19, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't agree. Let's not pretend that one has to live in *Metro* Vancouver to be a part of this project. I don't live in Vancouver or Metro Vancouver, but I love Vancouver and spend as much time as I can there. Vancouver is great. Now, I like Burnaby... I even hang out in Surrey, Langley and (lord love me) Richmond sometimes. Vancouver is the thing though. It is the centre. A place to go. A state of mind. "Metro Vancouver" is a brand&mdash;and it excludes me. Sunray (talk) 13:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I also disagree. When you look at a map you see Vancouver. Not Metro Vancouver, not the City of Vancouver & surround areas. When it was the GVRD, nobody really called it that. It was simply a local political term. London is made up of hundreds of 'townships' and the same with many other large cities. Take a look at New York. The fact remains that to everyone else in the world it's Vancouver and I believe it will most likely stay that way. Mkdw talk 15:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiScanner
This Sun article might be of interest for those concerned with COI issues, and it's kind of amusing. bobanny 22:19, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Imperial Hotel Management College AfD
The Imperial Hotel Management College in Vancouver, BC has been nominated for deletion. Any interested editors should contribute to the discussion at Articles for deletion/Imperial Hotel Management College Luke! 23:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Template:Roads in BC Cities
Another template for deletion by the same user arguing that templates inside templates are not good. See: the discussion--JForget 19:02, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion: Selkirk Annex

 * --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 15:14, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * updated --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 02:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Statistics
I thought that Statistics Canada updated in 2006. Are the demographics old or am I wrong? –thedemonhog talk • edits 20:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The 2006 census results are being released in phases. The first release (March 13, 2007) gave population and dwelling counts, the second release (July 17) gave Age and sex cohorts, the third (September 12) gave households, dwelling, and marital characteristics. The fourth release will occur on Tuesday (Dec 4) on languages, citizenship, and migration. The stats and updates are all here. --maclean 22:02, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion: Genetrack Biolabs

 * --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 02:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Available auto location map
Location map Vancouver will add a map of Metro Vancouver with a dot placed automatically using geo coordinates. The following code will produce the map at right. --Qyd (talk) 19:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * This template has been renamed to Location map Canada Vancouver. The original name is now a redirect. RedWolf (talk) 17:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Proposal for Vancouver Neighbourhood Maps
Articles for Vancouver neighbourhoods all have a neighbourhood map with the neighbourhood in red, for instance Kitsilano uses the image Image:Vancouver_Kitsilano.jpg.

I have developed a very crude template which puts clickable "X"s onto this map. The user can hover over the "X" to see the link to other neighbourhood articles (works especially nicely with popups) and click the "X" to go to the associated article.

I have placed the template at User:Franamax/Test2 and an example of its use at User:Franamax/Test3 (with just four badly placed "X"s).

I propose we use this template for all Vancouver neighbourhood articles. I'd like comments here before fully developing the template, if others feel it won't be useful, I won't go any further. Franamax (talk) 20:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * What would be the point of markable x's on neighbourhood maps; or would these be for specific sites as located within those neighbourhoods. Also, I think in the long run, the simple location maps won't be enough; eventually a street-grid map of just the area; even Kitsilano has subneighbourhoods, some quasi-official like Arbutus Ridge, Alma, West Broadway (meaning beyond Arbutus rather than as the street per se), Kits Point, Point Grey Road (as a neighbourhood) and so on....the boundary shown here is also the official bureaucratized one; to me Kits starts at Fir/Granville, not at Burrard; as with the undefined there's a big difference between traditional areas and conventionalized/officialized ones.  Fuzzy boundaries I like better, but make crappier maps unless someone's a reallly good artist ;-) - but I do recommend we find a usable Vancouver street grid that neighbourhood-localized maps can be made, showing parks, buildings/businesses with articles etc.Skookum1 (talk) 01:45, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I like the idea. It provides context on where the neighbourhood exists in Vancouver. The Metro Vancouver article uses something similar in the info box. --maclean 04:08, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * And the provincial Wikiprojects use this image at the right maclean 09:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, I think I'll go ahead and see what happens. Maclean, thanks for the examples, given the size of the map I'm working with, I think I'll be stuck just using an "X", but at least it will allow for spatial navigation.

Skookum, the point of the X's is not for intra-neighbourhood navigation, it's more of a "what's around here?" thing, so the user can go to the article of the n-hood next door. You're right that a map of the neighbourhood itself would be nice. However, in order to be legible, it would probably need to be fairly large, thus best off near the bottom. I wouldn't mind having a shot at creating such a map for Kits, if you want, make a section in Talk:Kitsilano with some of the notable streets and features you think should be shown and linked. Franamax (talk) 20:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I've finished the basic template and will show it below. I've also made some alternatives, one with some different characters for the clickables, another with (badly-placed) abbreviations for the neighbourhoods. None of them look particularly elegant, but the "X" version is IMO the best one. Comments? Please let me know soonest so I can get this disruption off this page! Franamax (talk) 04:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

SkyTrain stations
See WT:TWP. Simply south (talk) 13:41, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Yahoo group / meetup
It looks like this was deleted. Does anyone want to start a new group? It's about time we had a meetup, especially to celebrate the accomplishments of our colleagues at UBC. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 04:18, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I live in the north but I'll be in Vancouver on May 5, 23-24. I can attend if there is a get-together then. --maclean 05:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you have a venue and a date in mind? Mkdw talk 06:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Great! Conversation continued here: WikiProject Vancouver/Meetup 2008. I hope it will be well-attended! Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 07:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Structure reevaluation
Hey everyone. It's been awhile since our last major WikiProject collaboration and reorganization. Perhaps now is a good time to do some house cleaning and see if people are up for another challenge. Your thoughts? Mkdw talk 07:25, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Activity. I recommend an attendance is done on the membership list to see who is currently around and active. I can do this.
 * 2) Plans for a new structure. We should talk about the WikiProject's mandate and what we would like to encompass as well as discuss any changes we'd like to make.
 * 3) Discuss and introduce any other ideas.

The 2010 Olympics are going to be Vancouver's next major event. I'm positive its Wikipedia article will soon be gaining some international attention. I think it would be a great long term collaboration piece. The article could already be quite substantial. We will face a few challenges:
 * 1) The article will not be finished until well after the Olympics.
 * We will have much to write about in the mean time such as the bid, development plans, affects, pros and cons, protests, major political issues. Plenty to be done and set up for when the time comes.


 * 1) Writers and editors have been criticized in the past on other international-Canadian related articles for showing a bias. We all remember Hollywood North.
 * I strongly believe in unbiased writing. I think if we make a genuine effort to write the facts we won't have a problem.


 * 1) Finding enough active participants.
 * There most likely will be enough people interested.

Mkdw talk 07:25, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I won't be around, just dropped by about the following section, but just wanted to advise/remind that the 2010 pages are going to have Olympics p.r. and other consultants going over it with a finetooth comb - "information/media management" you can get degrees in now, and they'll be busy; not always as obviously cheesy as some of the edits to Whistler, British Columbia and related articles, but the p.r. machine will get rolling soon. I think in terms of post-Olympics writing it'll be easier because you['ll have editors from outside here helping cover the events/athletes etc.  I'd venture "your" first priority is the venues articles...."your" because I live in Halifax for now, despite mucking about in BC and PacNW history/geography articles, and because if I'm in Wiki at all I've already got too much to do.....anyway I'd recommend a tight POV watch...and also "brochure-style/cheesiness" watch...and be careful with their friggin' logo copyrights ;-).Skookum1 (talk) 14:19, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Also people coming here, physically ("here" being an abstraction for me considering where I am right now....) and also webwise, are going to be looking things up about the city a lot, not so much about the venues etc (ticket holders won't need us, they['ll have their guidebooks or whatever); so missing parks articles (see below) adn the like, maybe neighbourhood write-ups and - ??? - are gonna maybe get a lot of hits.  Trick is to not think like a Vancouverite...i.e. never take it for granted they know what you're talking about....Skookum1 (talk) 14:22, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Vanier Park
I was just tidying up senakw a bit and disco vered Vanier Park doesn't yet have an article. Not even a stub....I'd guess or hope that the Planetarium/Museum, VancConservatory of Music, Van Archives, Coast Guard station and Maritime Museum would have their own entries; just surprised me but I see there's not that many articles at all in Category:Parks in Vancouver so I guess Vanier's just one among many unwritten; it's just kinda high-profile, given its location and all, and the features in it....(and waht it was, i.e. senakw)Skookum1 (talk) 14:19, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * K, I started on it, still could use some more work, like images and stuff. OlEnglish (talk) 23:38, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Vancouver International Airport and Vancouver International Water Airport
I think these could do with a bit of clarification. I was looking at Vancouver International Airport and noticed that several of the operators are float planes but it's not stated in the article and probabably should be. Then at the water airport it says planes can be transferred to the land airport. So can float planes land at both airports and/or does the south terminal serve both airports? CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 04:00, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Willingdon Secondary School
Willingdon Secondary School is a weird article. As far as I know, it's not a public school; it's some kind of youth custody centre across from BCIT. SD41 has one broken link for it on their website; otherwise it pretends it doesn't exist. As it stands right now, the article is misleading. Carson 21:05, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Allan De Genova
I don't know if their is much work being done of the current elections race, but this article could use some help. It's written with a pro-allan POV and could use some help. I just ran across it and thought I would bring it to the attention of the group for anyone interested. I fixed up a few things for now, but I'm really not familar with writing politicians biography's. Thanks! OldManRivers (talk) 07:12, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

AFD: Vancouver, Coast & Mountains
This Ministry of Tourism region showed up in Category:Regions of Canada and is inappropriate as a title, except as a redirect to existing geographic articles; see reasons on the �AFd template/talkpage..Skookum1 (talk) 16:18, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless a Category:British Columbia Ministry of Tourism marketing regions is a worthwhile undertaking ;-| Skookum1 (talk) 16:20, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

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Delete or rename Koreatown, Vancouver
I just happened to find this article in the "West End" section of the VancouverNeighbourhoods template and was shocked by its contents; this is a fictional, promotional neighbourhood, a usage not used by anyone but Korean promoters/ethnic loyalists, as part of hte quest to create a Koreatown. See Talk:Koreatown, Vancouver as to why this needs a speedy delete; a retitling to Koreatown, Coquitlam I could almost deal with but it's not a usage that non-Korean residents or busiensses in that area see themselves as. I say delete it, or at least trim its promotional/fictional contents. It's bunk.Skookum1 (talk) 13:58, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. There is an apparent, obvious presence of Korean investment along parts of Robson street, but that in itself does not create a "Koreatown" in Vancouver. Koreans do not make up the majority of the business (not even close!), Korean settlement is virtually non-existent, and there is nothing resembling a Korean cultural environment. Some of this article might be incorporated in an article on "Koreans in Metro Vancouver"- or something like that- but otherwise the suggestion of a distinct Koratown is entirely fictional. Let's delete it. Dionix (talk) 18:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 24 hours yet, or just go ahead and add the "delete" tag? I don't see a reason, also, why "Koreans in Greater Vancouver" has any merit as an encylopedia article, certainly not "ahead of" many more signfiicant, historical ethnic communities, e.g. the Dutch and Mennonites.  "Koreatown" also, btw, was the proposed name, IIRC, of the stripmall in Surrey where the Korean owners tried to evict all the non-Korean owners.  Mind you, I also have problems with calling anything but Chinatown "Chinatown", which in wiki has come to mean anywhere with a concentration of Chinese-only businesses/social life, i.e. newly-minted Chiense commercial areas are not Chinatowns, no more than the Douglas Road corridor is "Norwaytown" or Ballard in Seattle is "Swedish town".  What I mean isx that in my view, "New Chiantowns" and invented promotional concepts like Koreatown are "cultural imperialism" and meant to displace existing cultures/economies...also a form of wilfull ethnic segregation that if non-Asians were doing it, i.e. whites, there'd be screams of racism; in fact, British Properties caught a lot of heat and had to abandon its ethnic profiling; Beijing's sop to Europetown is a farce, but at least it's an actual place, if a bit of a mockery....Skookum1 (talk) 18:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC):::Huh, not hte right link but mayb it's Europe Town, I know it's out there; an assemblage of consumerist temples and fake bits of English/American housing and ersatz Bavarian....Skookum1 (talk) 18:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * "...attracts visiting students from Japan and actually has non-Korean residents in the majority, most of whom have no idea the area is called Koreatown". Delete tag please!! Dionix (talk) 17:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * the way to delete articles when the deletion is challenged is at AfD. I have no personal opinion as to the result, but the next step is to find out. DGG (talk) 17:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

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List of parks in Vancouver
Not that hard to compile, would give motivation for article-creation; there's surprisingly few in Category:Parks in Vancouver, given the scale of the parks system. Just an idea.....also List of regional parks in Metro Vancouver (or X Regional District) maybe, although that still doesnt' take in the watersheds (or does it?) and BC Hydro facilities like Buntzen....(or is that Regional Park now?)Skookum1 (talk) 07:18, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

AFD on Koreatown, Vancouver
The AFD has begun on this, posting a notice here so we have actual Vancouverites taking part in the AFD. I haven't my responses to the "keep" votes yet but will do so later today; essentially the cites provided by one comment are "circular" - sites which have copied Wiki-based content mentioning this non-existent place, or the site about the two (and two only) businesses which are pushing the branding of Haro & Denman as "Koreatown" (which explains the African, French, Montreal Fried Chicken place; the article actually says the lower part of Robson, which has as many (if not more) Japanese eateries. If there is a Koreatown in Greater Vancouver, it's North Road, not anywhere near the West End.....delete, delete, delete, but it's going to take one of those "proof that something doesn't exist" rationales, because of the gullibility and/or lack of local knowledge of various admins/editors.  The creation of neologistic geography in Wiki articles has produced a somewhat large problem - that the other sites like nationmaster and answers.com which mirror Wiki content propagate material/names that aren't actually real, to the point where they're so prevalent on-line that other people think they're valid cites. "Making original research true" by Goebbel's method - "make a lie big enough and loud enough and repeat it often enough, and people will come to believe it." The same method has been used - and I do mean used - by the propagators of terms like Salish Sea.....Skookum1 (talk) 15:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Also to comment that the same circular-citations abound for Greektown, Vancouver, which I also have my doubts about its validity; Yes, there's a Bank of Greece at Mackenzie & B'way and "more than the usual concentration of Greek restaurants" (sort of, as there's a hell of a lot of Greek restaurants throughout Greater Vancouver), but the term "Greektown" is not something that residents of that area would identify with; Greek Days yes, and the fact that West Broadway is the closest thing to a Greek cultural enclave - but "Greektown" seems entirely invented/wishful thinking; though at least more substance than Koreatown......if the logic used for Greektown, or even the definition of Chinatown provided on that article, were applied to other groups, then the Douglas Road corridor in Burnaby, from the Scandinavian Community Centre on Sprott through the various ethnic retirement homes along Douglas Road, and a high rate of residency in that area of Canadians of Scandinavian descent, would qualify somethiing like "Nordictown". The Polish Community Hall on Fraser would make "Polishtown" and so on......Central Lonsdale could be "Farsitown" etc......Skookum1 (talk) 15:38, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Photo request - Consulate-General of Japan in Vancouver
If one wants, try photographing the Consulate-General of Japan in Vancouver. It is at 800-1177 West Hastings Street. If the consulate has its own building or has markings on the outside, photograph the markings and post them on Diplomatic missions of Japan. If the building is in an office suite and only has its markings in the inside, try going into the facility and photographing the markers of the consulate. Be very careful when photographing diplomatic missions; if the mission is inside of a larger complex, you may need to ask for permission before taking the photograph. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:05, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

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CPR Townsite
This article has been "in need" for a while, mostly on historical contexts as it relates to a nubmer of things - the Great Fire especially, also the development of uptown as a way for the CPR to monopolize/redirect development from the old downtown (Gastown), and also because lke the West End and Granville, BI (Gastown townsite) it was one of the main land divisions of the early city; it corresponds rougly to the combination of Granville Mall, Downtown South and Yaletown today; boundaries are Hamilton and Hastings to Burrard, and everything between Hamilton and Burrard to the False Creek waterfront...shows on all old maps of the early city.Skookum1 (talk) 15:51, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Bayshore Inn
This very notable hotel is conspicuous by its absence, especially considering hotels that aren't even finished yet have articles.....I don't ahve the resources and am not in Vancouver to photograph it; it was part of the CP chain when it was built, or rather became part of it while it was being built as I think teher were some "problems" with the initial investors and their ties to the Tom Campbell-era City Hall....for many years one of the handful of five-star hotels in the city, ranked with the Georgia and Hotel Van long before any of the new roster of hotels were built, and historically significant as the setting for the all-night party hosted for the Vander Zalms by Tan Yu and reported by Faye Leung, and also for being where Howard Hughes holed up for two years.....Skookum1 (talk) 15:57, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Another hotel of note, though of a completely different rating, is teh Wild Duck Inn, whatever it's called now, by the Pitt River Bridge...also the Moody Arms and the like; the old beer-parlour "circuit" before neighbourhood pubs were invented; the Wild Duck and Moody Arms are very old and hoary though; the Wild Duck came up just now in ref to Alvin, British Columbia at hte head of Pitt Lake, see my talkpage if you;'re interested at all. Just noting it here; many of the older valley/suburban hotels "have stories to them", the Wild Duck is one of those....Skookum1 (talk) 23:29, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Requesting image help
I was wondering if someone who lives in the area of Vancouver could assist us editors over on the Smallville pages. The show is filmed in the Vancouver and surrouding areas (primarily), and I was curious if someone would be able to take some photos of the episode production. It would be really nice to have some free images for the articles. If that's at all possible, then it will be greatly appreciated.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  19:31, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Lakes of the Lower Mainland
I just made Chehalis Lake and it brought to mind the number of other significant lakes in the Lower Mainland in need of doing; not just in the GVRD, and as a by-the-way I wanted to suggest that Lower Mainland/Fraser Valley-related debates might as well be here, given the interconnectivity and common geography. That aside, here's a list of all lakes I can think of some will overlap with regional or generally provincial park articles, i.e .there may not be a need for separate articles; in cases like Cults Lake I t hink the cmomunity/park shoudl be bfoken off from the physical lake "but" that's not the point here. I'm not sure whether this shoudl be a list, or should be acategory as well - Category:Lakes of British Columbia is going to be huge; in my view it shoudl be broken up by the "traditional countries" - Cariboo, Shusawp, Kootenays etc rather tahn ever using RDs; "if you insist" Category:Lakes in Metro Vancouver could exist as a subcat of Category:Lakes of the Lower mainland, but I think the latter one makes more sense, and will make more sense to readers of the various apges; if they're fgrom BC at least, and if not then they'll learn how BC is "arranged". Here's a list off the top of my headr: I think that's it, unless we count Lost Lagoon (fresh or saltwater?). Did I miss any>?Skookum1 (talk) 05:06, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hicks Lake
 * Kawkawa Lake
 * Lake of the Woods (British Columbia) - has another name I'll check, that's not hte BCGNIS name I think
 * Ross Lake
 * Wahleach Lake (Jones Lake)
 * Chilliwack Lake
 * Cultus Lake
 * Chadsey Lake (Lost Lake)
 * Sumas Lake (drained)
 * Mill Lake (Abbotsford)
 * Chehalis Lake
 * Harrison Lake (*Harrison Bay deserves a mention, it's really more of a lake than a by...)
 * Hatzic Lake
 * Allan Lake
 * Davis Lake - pDavis Lake Provincial Park probably (unless it's regional park)
 * Silver Lake (Mission
 * Connell Lake - Mission's reservoir
 * Hoover Lake - smaller reservoir
 * Winslow Lake
 * Terepocki Lake
 * Stave Lake
 * Florence Lake (Mission)
 * Morgan Lake
 * Alouette Lake
 * Hayward Lake
 * Silvermere Lake
 * Whonnock Lake
 * Pitt Lake
 * Betsy Lake and others in the UBC Research Forst
 * Como Lake (British Columbia)
 * Coquitlam Lake
 * Widgeon Lake
 * Buntzen Lake
 * Sasamat Lake
 * Seymour Lake
 * Capilano Lake
 * Burnaby Lake
 * Deer Lake (Burnaby)
 * Trout Lake (Vancouver)
 * Beaver Lake (Stanley Park)
 * Squint Lake

Removing "The next station is..."
Does anyone think that "The next station is..." in pages such as Metrotown Station should be deleted? If you look at London Underground station's articles, e.g. Lambeth North tube station, they don't have such headings. I think we can request bots from Bot requests to clean it up.
 * Yeah, I support changing the heading. It's 'cute', obviously in reference to the female voiced announcement on the trains themselves, but cute doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. OlEnglish (talk) 02:57, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Wait...what's the reason for the section to be deleted? -- signed by  SRE.K.A nnoyomous .L. 24  spell my name backwards on 03:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Not the entire section, just change the heading title to something more appropriate. Or not have a heading at all would probably be better, but the template can stay. - OlEnglish (talk) 04:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * O...didn't read the whole paragraph of your comment. We don't need a bot do to that. I can just do it myself. I'm going to tell WP:TRAINS about this. -- signed by  SRE.K.A nnoyomous .L. 24  spell my name backwards on 05:58, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Awesome, thanks bud. OlEnglish (talk) 23:32, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Done. -- signed by  SRE.K.A nnoyomous .L. 24  spell my name backwards on 07:12, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Survey
I'm conducting a new survey since the last was done 3 years ago (an editors lifetime on Wikipedia) at 2009 Vancouver Vs. Vancouver, Washington Survey. Your input would be most appreciated. Mkdw talk 21:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Portal:Vancouver
The portal has been changed to update content automatically for articles, pictures, panoramas quotes, and biographies, so there are no more red wikilinked box sections on the portal. The pictures, biographies, and articles can still be nominated if they are B class or less. FA, A and GA class can be addd automatically into the portal without nomination, IMHO The old format produced the occasional lapse in nominated showcase month articles and images, this new format keeps the portal full, even if editors are busy. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk  00:36, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * However....
 * Previously nominated biography Sam Sullivan was not re-added as the article has only a one sentence lead, and I do not know what was put on the portal last time around. Can someone familiar with this bio fix the lead to introduce all sections of a fairly lengthy article?  Then the article could be re-added to the portal if so desired.
 * Prviously nominated article Vancouver Canucks was not re-added at this time as the article has a tag which has rated the article as having multiple issues. Is there anyone familiar with this content who could address the tag so the article can plop into the portal if so desired.
 * Previously nominated article Science World at TELUS World of Science was added to the portal as it had been a prior showcase article, however this article is still at start class.
 * Images were all re-added as there are not any featured, quality or valued images of Vancouver that I could find on wikimedia commons or on wikipedia en featured images. The one FA panorama was added in its very own box section though.  :-)

Admiral Hastings and Hastings names
Please see Talk:George_Fowler_Hastings. And to note I tried to BCGNIS-up Hastings, B.I. (now New Brighton Park) but it's not properly listed (I let them know); an article on New Brighton Park could maybe suffice....(see also Talk:New Brighton, British Columbia)Skookum1 (talk) 13:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

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Collingwood, Vancouver created
Made this as had mentioned it in Central Park (Burnaby) and added it to the Collingwood disambiguation page. Details missing - is that a Safeway or a Super Valu, e.g.? - and unsure of other services, or precise civic boundaries.Skookum1 (talk) 23:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Though I don't live near that area, I'm sure it's a Safeway. --  SRE.K.A.L. | L.A.K.ERS ]]  00:02, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, just in case you don't know, that there is already an article called Renfrew-Collingwood. --  SRE.K.A.L. | L.A.K.ERS ]]  00:08, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, no I didn't - I went by what was on Collingwood (dab) which didn't mention Vancouver or other Collingwood placenames in BC.....to me though it's like Grandview-Woodlands..."Grandview" is a distinct area, in teh same way that Boundary Country is distinct from Boundary-Similkameen, which incldues the Similkameen Country as well as the South Okanagan (from Oliver south anyway...). Maybe it should be mrged now and made into a redirect, if only "official neighbourhoods" should have artices...I dunno, I just wrote it as a stub and have no interest in or means of expanding it.Skookum1 (talk) 00:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirected, since no need for the article. You could still help expanding the article, and make it into a good article! --  SRE.K.A.L. | L.A.K.ERS ]]  01:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not in Vancouver anymore - I live in Halifax now and was just trying to flil in what I thought was a "blank"- and don't have any resources on hand, or even the abllity to go down and snap some pics; I was waiting to think about the redirect - y'see unofficial neighbourhoods do have a place, if they're citable; as the article noted the area was born as an outgrowth of BCER service, and while I've historically thought of it as "Joyce" or "Joyce & Kingsway" or even "Joyce Loop", it's as distinct an area as Gastown is within the Downtown Eastside or Granville island is within Fairview; I hope you didn't just "wipe" th article but incorporated the bits about the rail line, the name etc into it; a "merge' is more what I was thinking once you mentioned Renfrew-Collingwood....I have my doubts about the validity of the city's agglomerative "official" neighbourhoods, as mentioned above. "The Drive" is distinct iwthin Grandview-Woodlands, for example, and Stanley Park Neighbourhood is an identifiable and distinct area within the West End, as is Davie Village. The existence of an official neighbourhood article doesn't predicate against "real" neighbourhood articles; quite the contrary....Skookum1 (talk) 01:19, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I was going to move the information from the article you made to the original one... I'll move the information after my real life homework, if you don't want to... --  SRE.K.A.L. | L.A.K.ERS ]]  01:51, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The information I added was in need of detailing and fixing anyway, and I'm not "on-site" and with access to Vancouver resources; also look at my edit contributions and you'll see how busy-all-over-the-map I am. Also to suggest that sections be delineated within the Renfrew-Collingwood article for its distinct neighbourhoods/areas.  Collingwood is a distinct area from Grandview Highway and both are distinct from what's north of Grandview, and so on; that's among the reasons I deferred from doing the merge; you'll note I made a few changes to the Renfrew-Collingwood article to address the point that this is not a natural neighbourhood but an official city "neighbourhood zone", whatever the proper term is, and is actually a collection of neighbourhoods; there's a specific name btw for the area north of the north end of Joyce, which was a veterans' housing development, and similarly there's a name for the housing development just north of the Lougheed-Broadway connector (where the apartment fire/murder killed that Congolese family a few years ago); major industries in the area like Vancouver Film Studios and (formerly) Wire Rope Industries (now the Superstore) and Pine Tree Nut etc.  The problem with the official city neighbourhoods is that they're macro-regions and override local distinctiveness (one of the complaints made against them when they were instigated by the way); it's not like Collingwood/Joyce is the same neighbourhood in the usual sense as the Grandview corridor, or the area north of Lougheed...Skookum1 (talk) 14:47, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Add Fraser river bridges to Category:Bridges by river?
Just putting an idea out there. I noticed there's a category called Category:Bridges by river and we have Category:Bridges in Vancouver as well as List of crossings of the Fraser River, and also Template:Bridges of Metro Vancouver.

Any interest in incorporating material from the category, list, and template into a new category called Category:Bridges over the Fraser River? Or perhaps the list is enough? I know that Skookum will have issues over the specifics of the various arms and tributaries of the Fraser river and such but we I'm sure we can work things out. ;) -- OlEnglish (Talk) 21:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Ehh...I don't think it's really needed to have a category, since like you said, there's already a List of crossings of the Fraser River. I thought of something...how about make a navbox for these Fraser River crossing? --  SRE.K.A.L. | L.A.K.ERS ]]  23:52, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I won't have issues with the North Arm/Middle Arm/South Arm but there is the point that some of the entries on List of crossings of the Fraser River are not bridges, but ferries (these are fewer and fewer but historically there were many - and some are missing like the old Brownsville Ferry at New West). And I haven't thought to look - is the old Fraser Street Bridge listed?  And before the existence of the Knight Street Bridge there used to be a local bridge from Vancouver to Mitchell Island.  The little bridge between MacMillan Island and Fort Langley might qualify, although that's a slough/sidewater bridge and not part of the main arms/reaches; there are others like that farther up but the sloughs around Nicomen and Chilliwack/Rosedale etc are not usually considered part of the main Fraser; there used to be the Agassiz-Rosedale Ferry and other gold rush-era ones at Yale and Spuzzum.Skookum1 (talk) 14:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And I'm not sure there's much point to List of crossings of the Thompson River....I actually haven't stopped to count them; there's the CNR and highway bridges at Lytton, the highway bridge, old bridge and old ferry ("Cook's Ferry") at Spences Bridge, the Ashcroft Bridge, the Savona Bridge (and an old ferry there as well), and the two/three bridges around Kamloops, the Little Fort Ferry, not sure up the North Thompson from there, and the Sorrento Bridge (though that's over the Little River, not the South Thompson and other bridges from Clearwater up). There's only four crossings of the Bridge River, two of them over dams, plus a vanished ferry, and only a handful over the Nechako, not sure about the Endako, plus a few over the Quesnel... Skookum1 (talk) 14:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Lists and categories are two different concepts, a template is a third. The cat should be Category:Crossings of the Fraser River.Skookum1 (talk) 14:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I added the coords for the Fraser Street Bridge, which it turns out was evidently the access to Mitchell Island though I don't remember the off-ramp and/or if there were actually two bridges, one over the slough/sidereach north of the island or if it was all one bridge.  For the coords I used the middle of the span as it was over the North Arm, which is south of Mitchell Island.Skookum1 (talk) 14:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Is the Annacis Bridge missing - over Annacis Channel?Skookum1 (talk) 14:42, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh! I wasn't aware there already was a Category:Crossings of the Fraser River. Nice work Skookum. BTW, have you ever considered contributing to the BC Archives at the Royal British Columbia Museum? With your extensive knowledge you'd be a great asset to them. -- &oelig; &trade; 21:46, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I just created the Barnston Island Ferry article. Could someone please add it to List of crossings of the Fraser River? oh and tell me what you think. :) -- &oelig; &trade; 01:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Vancouver a featured article removal candidate
While some members of this project (myself included) weren't paying attention, Vancouver was listed for a FA Review (June 18, 2009). The article has since been listed as a featured article removal candidate. If we wish to keep FA status, we will need to put some effort into improving the article right away. Sunray (talk) 07:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

New stub needs expansion
Requesting help expanding new stub Pantages Theatre (Vancouver). -- &oelig; &trade; 03:43, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

List of Vancouver Canucks captains
nominated List of Vancouver Canucks captains for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:46, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

GA Reassessessment of Pauline Johnson
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found a number of concerns which you can see at Talk:Pauline Johnson/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 10:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

What happened to The Cave (nightclub)??
I just found a cite for "The Cave" but now can't find its article; it's not on either The Cave or Cave (disambibguation). I suppose it may have been deleted because of a notability tag, or an unref tag, but:
 * ''July 20 A fixture on the Vancouver club scene for decades was The Cave, whose dark interior and famous papier-mache stalactites were a setting for acts ranging from Mitzi Gaynor, Milton Berle, Mel Torme, Lena Horne, Jack Carter, Henny Youngman and Louis Armstrong to Eric Burdon and the Animals and The Doors. The Cave, run in its heyday by the towering Ken Stauffer, closed its doors today with a farewell performance by the Bobby Hales Orchestra. The club was demolished the next day. Actually, the demolition started early: “Before the day dawned,” Joy Metcalfe wrote, “every mirror, stalactite, showcase, sink and toilet that had not been auctioned off earlier had been demolished by the mob.”

Which is from the cite provided, which is the 1981 page at Chuck Davis' Vancouver History website. The club article isn't in Category:Vancouver nightclubs, I'm wondering if it sstill exists or needs re-creating....Skookum1 (talk) 15:44, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Dickens, Vancouver
Notability tag added, and real estate promo material an associated link removed, also dead canada.com/vancouvercourier link removed. I've lived in this area and never hard the name; maybe those with school-age chidleren have started referring to it that way; to met it's Grandview (I've lived at 15th & Prince Albert and on 13th between Clark and Glen......while I think there are some bona fide neighbourhoods with common names that need articles or sections in other articles (e.g. Kits Point, Spanish Banks, Point Grey Road, Alma, West 10th etc), this ain't one of them; "school neighbourhoods", i.e. those defined by school "territory"/reach" like this one I'm not so sure are notable in any way.....Skookum1 (talk) 14:41, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I've also never heard of it. Basically this amounts to original research or WP:MADEUP because if it's not mentioned by that name in reliable 3rd party published sources then it shouldn't have an article, at least not with that title, perhaps a rename or maybe a merge or just a mention of this name in some similar "vancouver neighbourhoods" article would be appropriate. -- &oelig; &trade; 19:05, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably none of us ever heard the name before, but it may be used by some locals in the area, excluding Skookum. But IMO, I think it was WP:MADEUP. Should we WP:AFD this? --  SRE.K.A.L. | L.A.K.ERS ]]  19:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Universities COTM Nomination
Hello WikiProject Vancouver. I just wanted to let you all know that a university handled by your WikiProject, Simon Fraser University, has been nominated for next month's WikiProject Universities Collaboration of the Month. If you'd like to take advantage of this opportunity, be sure to vote for the university. While you're there, consider helping improve one of our current Collaborations of the Month.

Happy editing! -Mabeenot (talk) 18:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Vancouver
- Mkdw talk 20:15, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Vancouver
Discussion about having a montage-styled infobox image here. --  SRE.K.A.L. | L.A.K.ERS ]]  05:05, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The montage contains images already seen in the article. The current image has been through an FA process before and suits its purpose just fine. Mkdw talk 19:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I just thought a montage would be better, as it shows more attractions in the city, than just showing the Downtown skyline itself. The image I created is just an example it what it would look like. Hope Operation Schadenfreude is going good. :D --  SRE.K.A.L. | L.A.K.ERS ]]  22:09, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

List of heritage buildings in Vancouver - rename
I have nom'ed this page for a rename. Please see it's talk page to comment. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 04:57, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

its for my project
whats the population growth in vancouver in 2010? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.235.249.51 (talk) 14:53, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

AfD HMCS Discovery
There is an AfD for HMCS Discovery underway which participants in this project may be interested in. The article does need to be sourced. Online sources are skimpy but some here may have other published sources that could improve the article. The result of this AfD may have a bearing on the other articles in the List of Canadian Forces Naval Reserve divisions. -- KenWalker | Talk 19:19, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement
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Literary Storefront
I came across this memoir of the Literary Storefront while looking up an old friend, poet/publisher Wayne Holder, who briefly ran the place in the early '80s, though it was founded by Mona Fertig. It's highly notable within the context of Canadian literature and BC's cultural history, as a read through the linked article will show and also the comments attached to it, and further googles also; there's little enough on Canadian/BC literary culture as it is in Wikipedia...just dropping note of this here, maybe will do the same on Talk:CanLit.Skookum1 (talk) 19:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

William Hoffer, Bookseller
Formerly 60 Powell Street....see Talk:Canadian_literature. Other notable booksellers worthy of articles Stephen Lunsford (bookseller), Bond's Books (now gone), MacLeod's Books, Antiquarius, Colophon Books, Albion Books....given some thought there's others, can't remember the name of the one at 10th & Alma but there's Arcanum Books near the Kootenay Loop; now specializing in mysteries, at one time the focus of occult bookselling in Vancouver...Skookum1 (talk) 20:20, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

McBarge
I've been chipping away at an article about everyone's (or at least my own) favourite derelict barge, the "McBarge", in my userspace: User:M.nelson/McBarge. I'd appreciate some help from knowledgeable Vancouverites; this would probably make a good Vancouver-related DYK during the Olympics. Cheers, -M.Nelson (talk) 22:31, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Olympic watchlist
Things are likely to get busy(er) around here quite soon as everyone in the world vies to tell everyone else that "my firend Alison is teh coolest!". Has anyone thought about setting up a sub-page of related article names that we could all monitor through the "Related changes" function for the next month or two? This would obviously start with Vancouver and 2010 Winter Olympics and presumably articles about various venues and people. The talk page would also be a convenient place to coordinate priority watches. Or is this already happening somewhere and I didn't get the memo? Franamax (talk) 23:09, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I was considering requesting temporary semi-protection for some articles like Wikipedia did for the Beijing Olympics. Mkdw talk 23:18, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ugh, pre-emptive protection? Other than being completely antithetical to the goals of "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit", I guess it's OK. :) I personally won't feel any problems with +sprot'ing anything that becomes a problem, RFPP or not. (I do have distinct views on whether the modern Olympic movement is good or not, but not so much that I would hate the articles) What I'm thinking of is a sub-page here where we could collect all the various titles that may be, or are becoming, at risk. Recent changes filtered for mainspace would give me a good comprehensive look at the action at any given moment. I do this already through my watchlist, I'm just thinking of a centralized one where we can monitor changes. Franamax (talk) 23:42, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I've found the Special:RecentChangesLinked/2010 Winter Olympics page to cover most if not all related articles. Keeping an eye on that page should be able to catch all Olympics vandalism. -M.Nelson (talk) 23:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Olympic locales
We seem to be missing some Olympic location articles...
 * Whistler-Creekside/Whistler Creekside
 * Creekside Village
 * Blackcomb Village

70.29.210.242 (talk) 05:41, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Skeleton at the 2010 Winter Olympics – Women's
User:Marylanderz nominated this article for GA about a month ago. I reviewed the article, and placed it on hold. Marylanderz has not edited Wikipedia in three weeks, so I don't know if he or she will be around to make revisions. I'm fully willing to go beyond the seven day mark with the hold, but as it stands right this moment, the article needs further work to satisfy GA. Notifying all WikiProjects which have banners placed on the article's talk page. Nosleep ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 23:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Merging with WikiProject Canada template?
I have made it possible to add an article to the Canada and Vancouver articles at once using  . It can be used along with other Canada projects, for example  {{ {{WikiProject Canada |vancouver=yes |music=yes |nl=yes | class=start |importance=low }}  for a band that moved from Newfoundland to Vancouver. You can still use the existing {{Vancouverproject}} template if you want to use a unique importance rating or use the map= or photo= parameters, but in general it's useful to share the work between projects. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 03:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


 * This is no good, it adds a second importance rating for Vancouver, meaning an article ends up in two different importance ratings, one based on WPCANADA standards, in a WPVANCOUVER category, and one for WPVANCOUVER. 76.66.192.73 (talk) 10:52, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Let's centralize this and discuss at Template talk:WikiProject Canada. – xeno talk 13:11, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Straw poll
Hi, WikiProject Vancouver. I'd like to do a straw poll to see if and how you would like to allow tagging of your articles using a merged template. The Canada template is kind of a top-level catchall template that allows all Canadian WikiProjects to be added to talk pages at once with a standardized setup.

If the option is allowed, it would let users add articles to both this project and WikiProject Canada using  . This is also how articles from projects like Canada Sports and Canada Roads are done, so you would be able to add articles to multiple projects using something like <tt> </tt>.

The projects would share a class rating, but WPVancouver would have it's own importance rating using <tt>|vancouver-importance=</tt>. Optionally, it could be set to default to WPCanada's importance if there is no Vancouver importance and put the article into the additional category Category:Vancouver articles with inherited importance. It would also show the Vancouver portal on the template, though we're still looking into exactly how that would look.

My questions to you are: Thanks for your input! --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 16:08, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Do you want to allow users the option of tagging WPVancouver articles using the WPCanada template?
 * 2) If it is allowed, would you want it to default to the WPCanada importance rating when there is no Vancouver importance rating (assuming that you can track which articles have inherited importance)?


 * Comment The default WPCANADA importance rating will rate almost every city article as "low importance", which is useless in categorizing the importance of city articles. 76.66.192.73 (talk) 04:50, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * For the record, the current setup allows, but does not require, Vancouver articles to be tagged jointly with WPCANADA, but always uses separate importance scales for the two projects. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 17:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

rating of "Burrard Bridge" article
1) I would like to know why the neutrality of the "Burrard Bridge" article is now contested. I, not a Vancouverite, am principal editor of it, who reshaped what was there, clarifying the engineering, historical, and site information (inserting illustrative photogaphs).  I also separated and put in chronological order reports on ongoing developments regarding the bicycle lane issue.  I'm happy to see that subsequent contributions to that history have followed the format.  I visit it from time to time to make sure that notes added are all *documented* with links to independent press, civic and other public sources.  Contents of these will disagree among themselves and vary in accuracy, neutrality, relevance.  Such is the nature of public discussion.  That way the article serves as an updated history of a public planning situation of a kind that occurs in many countries, also as a good Wiki source for those who want information about current developments there. Query: therefore, what in the *editing of this article* is considered non-neutral?

(I also deleted vanitas photos, leaving those in text that are illustrative of the text. Thus the old complaint about that on the Discussion page is out of date.)

2) Why does it have a "Low Importance" ranking? What would the Project require of an article on this Bridge, demonstrably important to Vancouver in many ways, to give it a better ranking? Alethe (talk)

Vancouver Deaflympics
We don't seem to have an articles for the 2015 Winter Deaflympics (Vancouver Deaflympics/2015 Deaflympics) ...

There does exist an article for a specific Deaflympics, 2009 Deaflympics, so perhaps with the Canadian Olympics of Whistler going on now, we should also articlize this event? (The Deaflympics are sanctioned by the IOC)

70.29.210.242 (talk) 06:27, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It's likely the article will be created closer to 2015 as I don't see there'd be much information about it at this time. Mkdw talk 21:15, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

FAR
nominated SkyTrain (Vancouver) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 11:45, 6 May 2010 (UTC) .

Vancouver articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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Point Grey
This is currently a redirect to West Point Grey and it shouldn't be; its source-use is the physical point, where Wreck Beach is, but to my surprise BCGNIS has only Point Grey Beach, which has me wondering exactly where that is. But "Point Grey" is also in common use for at least on electoral riding, and also for a well-known school, and isn't just West Point Grey, i.e. insofar as within the City of Vancouver goes; the physical Point Grey of course isn't, although that usage was also generally applied to hte whole headland approaching Point Grey - which indeed why West 10th and the area north of it are caleld Point Grey; the "West" was added because the Alma-Jericho area was also part of Point Grey....and then there was Point Grey (municipality) wasn't there? Also NB South Vancouver (city) needs making.....cites from local atlases and book on teh point and other uses are needed to make that redirect into a proper article and if it's not a disambig then Point Grey (disambiguation) seems called for.Skookum1 (talk) 09:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

spanish & vancouver
Missing from the mention of the Spanish and George Vancouver is the rendezvous off Point Grey, and how Spanish Banks got its name; this is iconic in Vancouver history - and isn't it one of the murals in the Ledge? Or the Courthouse? I'll see what I can find to cite it, should just be in teh Vancouver Expedition article already.Skookum1 (talk) 09:31, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Banner was replaced
FYI, with this edit, your wikiproject banner was eliminated from your instructions by a member of WPCANADA who is not on your membership rolls. Do you assent to the change, or should that be reverted? vancouverproject still exists, and will continue to function, but it was completely removed from your instructions (instead of the two coexisting). 76.66.202.72 (talk) 07:32, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads-up. -- &oelig; &trade; 06:55, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


 * WPCanada appears to be implicitly wanting people to replace your banner per WikiProject Canada/Assessment ; where your banner is listed under other sections with ✅ to indicate total replacement of other banners. 65.93.12.108 (talk) 06:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Vancouver area categories being renamed
Metro Vancouver articles have been nominated to be renamed Greater Vancouver, see Categories for discussion/Log/2010 December 19

65.95.14.34 (talk) 06:22, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

10th anniversary meetup
Hello my fellow Vancouver Wikipedians. I think it would be great if we all could get together to celebrate Wikipedia's 10th anniversary on Jan. 15. I am trying to work out a meeting location in Vancouver; other Lower Mainland locations are possible depending on responses. We can discuss the meetup at this page at the official organizing area:  Please RSVP if you are interested! I am told that swag such as t-shirts and buttons will be involved. Hope to see you there! The Interior (Talk) 02:59, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds like fun, I'm interested. -- &oelig; &trade; 16:56, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

University Transition Program
I would like to know why this article is classified as "low importance". In reality, this is a program that has changes many youth's lives in Vancouver. Also, I would like to know how this article can be improved to meet the standards of Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.36.49.125 (talk) 04:02, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Vancouver Canucks (WHL)
Is the Vancouver Canucks (WHL) the predecessor of the Vancouver Canucks (NHL) ? the WHL team stopped playing in 1970, when the NHL team was formed. There are comments at the WHL team talk page that indicates that it switched over/rebuilt, with some people remaining in place as transition. 65.94.45.209 (talk) 04:12, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * See Vancouver Canucks#Early Years for the whole story. Mkdw talk 23:09, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hyphenated placenames are hyphenated NOT "dashed"
I've reversed User:arctic.gnomes hyphen->dash changes to the VancouverNeighbourhoods template, but can't seem to get to be able to "revert" the titles of the various neighbourhood articles that have been affected by the misapplication of ENDASH, wholesale, across too much of Wikipedia, by non-RM mandated moves, supposedly "uncontroversial" when really they are, very much so. Arctic.gnome's stated rationale was that when a hyphen usage infers "and" or "to" then the endash should be substituted, but these aren't "and/to" situations, and a key section of ENDASH which nobody seemed to carry out or respect, though giving Bible-writ weight to other sections, and committing mass executions of hyphens by the thousands, all unwarranted, is that hyphenated names are to remain hyphenated; that passage has been amended to specify placenames, but it was already the intent of user:Ozob who authored the section that all hyphenated placenames are meant. And these are not usages as in "Grandview and Woodland" or "Hastings and Sunrise" or "Renfrew and Collingwood", not in the slightest; these neighbourhood names are derived from school-names, e.g. Hastings Park and Sunrise Elementaries; "Woodland" is not even a neighbourhood so how can it be "and" to anything?? These are just names concocted by the city for the offically-mandated neighbourhoods, they are not "Renfrew neighbourhood and Collingwood neighbourhood" in origin. As many know, I have a similar bitch about the hyphenization of regional district names, but will post about that separately; all these were moved without RMs and without discussion by this WikiProject or anywhere else in WP:CAnada, and the mis-citing of DASH has become nearly a religion and it's got to stop, and its damage reversed....all "dashed items" in Category:Neighbourhoods in Vancouver should be moved back forthwith; if someone insists they should be "dashed", let them launch an RM instead of me having to fix something taht never should have been broken....Skookum1 (talk) 19:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You need to get an admin to delete the redirects so you can move the page back to the hyphenated titles. You can use Template:Db-move for this, but I strongly suggest talking to arctic.gnome about it first. -- &oelig; &trade; 21:28, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I tried, no answer yet....according to what I've been told, if they were speedied without an RM, the proper procedure is to move them back and, and only then, should the dashes have been proposed by RM. He just cited MOS, but he mis-cited MOSDASH as too many people have done.Skookum1 (talk) 21:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Invitation
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''The Interior cordially invites you to the Vancouver Wikipedia 10th Anniversary Meetup! It is being held at Benny's Bagels at 2505 W Broadway. Meetup will start at 6:30pm. Drop by for some Wikipedia-style conviviality and free gear! Feel free to forward this invitation to any Wikipedians who might be able to attend, and visit the discussion page to suggest activities. Hope to see you there and have a Happy 2011!

"Vancouverism"
to me this term means a local expression, or sentiment/attitude/peculiarity, it doesn't mean an architectural/planning style-label about how great a place the West End is.....There's no book on "Vancouverisms" (i.e. about the culture/verbal context of the place) but kinda makes me wish there were so there'd be a reason to dab this obscure and not-slightly promotional usage (promoting a planning agenda, and certain firms) to Vancouverism (urban planning).Skookum1 (talk) 09:37, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Category:Miscellaneous Vancouver articles
Hi, I note that there are 1199 talk pages in the above category. As this represents about two thirds of all the articles in the Project, I'm wondering what utility the category has to the project and what it means. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:48, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


 * These discussions may shed some light: Categories_for_discussion/Log/2006_December_31 and Categories_for_discussion/Log/2006_October_21. Apparantely the category is used to keep track of talk pages that have not yet been sorted into a category for a specific adjacent city. Although that was from back in 2006 and I'm unsure if this is still the case.. Indeed this should probably be renamed to something like Category:Unsorted WikiProject Vancouver articles. -- &oelig; &trade; 04:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Water Street, Vancouver
Water Street, Vancouver has been prodded for deletion. Curiously, an American editor has rated it as low importance for Vancouver. 64.229.101.119 (talk) 06:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Laughable. -- &oelig; &trade; 07:23, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you can rerate it? (mid or high); if you use the separate WPVancouver template instead of the combined WPCanada template, you'll gain greater visibility for WPVancouver's importance rating. 64.229.101.119 (talk) 18:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


 * This is now up for deletion at Articles for deletion/Water Street, Vancouver. 64.229.101.119 (talk) 18:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Oak Street (Vancouver)
Oak Street (Vancouver) was also previously prodded, about two weeks ago, so it looks like someone's going through Canadian streets and prodding them for deletion... 64.229.101.119 (talk) 18:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

West Point Grey
Shoudn't this article be at Point Grey instead? Are there any local editors that would like to source this article properly, and then move it to Point Grey is the sources so indicate? DigitalC (talk) 17:11, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Canucks–Flames rivalry
Canucks–Flames rivalry has been nominated for deletion. 65.95.13.213 (talk) 06:20, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Cup riot
See Talk:2011 Stanley Cup riot for discussions about the need for such an article. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 10:09, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Cambie_Street
Can anyone assist in resolving this NPOV dispute? - RoyBoy 01:50, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Vancouver will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Vancouver's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 21:25, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Vancouver meetup
Hello,

There will be an edit-a-thon at the Prophouse Café on Sunday March 25, as part of Women's History Month events. If you are interested, please see Meetup/Vancouver WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon and add your signature to the list.

Thank you! Inverse Hypercube (talk) 09:47, 10 March 2012 (UTC)