Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Nintendo/Archive 9

Membership updating
Due to the scant commenting by others beside myself on this talk page, I am going to try to gauge the active participation of the user in this task force to see how many users are still active here. What I will do is temporarily create a separate list of "inactive" members on the task force page and move all the names down there. I will then send a message to all current members to ask them to verify if still active (which will simply be done by moving the user's name from the "inactive list" to the "active list") or remove of no longer active. After two four weeks, those still left on the "inactive list" will be removed. Of course, anyone who wishes to come back are free to re-add their name onto the list. MuZemike 19:39, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: Upon request, I have extended it to four weeks. MuZemike 23:31, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Merge SSB task force
FYI- There's a discussion about merging the Super Smash Bros. task force into this task force. Comments from members here would be appreciated. (Guyinblack25 talk 19:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC))
 * Support – It's pretty much complete (i.e. the series is a Featured Topic), not to mention too small and too inactive. MuZemike 21:30, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Support - I agree the task force has done great and now really a merge would be appropriate.  I Smashed   TALK!  15:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Update- The SSB task force now redirects here. I moved the talk page to an archive under this talk page. There are still a few loose ends left though. Any thoughts on how to handle them? (Guyinblack25 talk 19:13, 15 April 2009 (UTC))
 * WikiProject Video games/Super Smash Bros./Barnstar
 * WikiProject Video games/Super Smash Bros./Members
 * WikiProject Video games/Super Smash Bros./Userbox


 * My opinions would be
 * If barnstar was used, appears to have been properly substed, could be removed if no one complains
 * Merge top members and recent members to this member list or post about the change on members' talk pages
 * Turn userbox into redirect for User Nintendo task force
 * —Ost (talk) 19:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ditto #1 and #3, and the first part of #2. I suggest substing the template in #1 to make comply. --Izno (talk) 20:10, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Should be deleted. I don't see any transclusions of the barnstar after clicking the "What links here" on the barnstar page.
 * Barnstar

I was going to do the same thing as I just did with the membership update, but I'll run this through to make sure it's OK. My plan is to again create an "inactive member" list below the current Nintendo Task Force list at WP:NIN (i.e. the left panel) and merge all those names into there. I will then notify all those users of the merge, and if they wish to include themselves in the Nintendo task force, they can move their name up to the active list. After a month, all remaining entries in the inactive list will be removed. This will give the Nintendo task force a good gauge in its active membership so as to not inflate numbers.
 * Members

Redirecting would make this a cross-namespace redirect. With the small edit history, I would think this could also be deleted.
 * Userbox

Those are my recommendations for the three. MuZemike 21:29, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the barnstar can be kept with some tweaking, but I must admit with the main articles of high quality there's little reason to give it out now.
 * Merging the member list sounds like a good idea. I assume the page will be redirected to the Nintendo left panel?
 * Redirecting to the Nintendo user box should be fine. cross-namespace redirects are more an issue when it involves the Main space. Since this is template and WP space, it shouldn't cause any issues. (Guyinblack25 talk 15:19, 17 April 2009 (UTC))
 * I've already merged the memberlist into WikiProject Video games/Nintendo/left panel and notified everyone on that list of the merge. All those users will have a month to confirm active membership in the task force as I noted above before I remove those who are no longer active.
 * What specifically did you recommend with the barnstar as far as tweaking is concerned? We could, as an alternate, redirect to the Nintendo barnstar as recommended with the userbox. MuZemike 16:19, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey there; I know it doesn't matter much, but I was wondering why I'm not included on the list of inactive members, even though I was on the original SSB list. Just a minor curiosity. I think I've made my status clear anyway. Cheers. Ashnard  Talk  Contribs  21:49, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I figured you said that you wouldn't be adding your name on the "active" list when the task force did the membership update last month. I figured I'd save you another talk page message and placement on the inactive list again when it's not necessary. I can add you back on there if you really want to :) MuZemike 22:02, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That's very considerate. Cheers. Ashnard  Talk  Contribs  10:05, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * In regard to the barnstar, I would say change it from "The Smash Bros Task Force Barnstar" to "The Super Smash Bros Barnstar" and move it to the Template space. But redirecting it to the Nintendo barnstar should work well too; I honestly don't see anyone receiving it in the future. (Guyinblack25 talk 00:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC))
 * I was bold and redirected the barnstar and userbox to their Nintendo equivalents. Though feel free to send them to RfD.
 * I think the only other loose end is to remove the SSB parameter from the VG project tag on talk pages. (Guyinblack25 talk 14:53, 20 April 2009 (UTC))

Wii matinence mode thing
The matinence mode for the Wii doesn't appear to be mentioned in the article it self or any other related article.  ' The Ninja  lemming '  20:55, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar Ribbon
I got a question. Should we have a Barnstar Ribbion? I mean, why not? I can understand if we can't have one, but maybe we should. GamerPro64 (talk) 01:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I would design a ribbon for the Nintendo Barnstar (like with the Ribbon for the VG barnstar), but I don't know how to design one. That is, I don't know how to design a ribbon as far as color patterns are concerned (or any type of ribbon, like military or police) or specific software in which to design one. Otherwise, I would be for designing one; I use ribbons for all the barnstars I have received on my user page as they don't clutter up a user page at all, and I'm kind of a military buff. MuZemike 22:21, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, does any other member know how to make one? GamerPro64 (talk) 22:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You could ask S@bre about how to go about designing one (he created the VG Barnstar ribbon). MuZemike 22:44, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

DSi
The DSi has been released (just got mine) and with it comes more pages. We may need to start working with the DSiware releases as they are unique to the dsi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ismashed (talk • contribs) 19:08, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * How is it, so far? Anyways, you may want to look at List of DSiWare games and applications, which is already started. MuZemike 19:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah it looks good, sorry I forgot to sign my comment. Anyway yeah some articles will need creating and improving for the actual games just like what hes happened with the wiiware games (which I did a lot of). But all the release games are nintendo so maybe they may need a look at. I'm just alerting members to the possibility of more articles. If only we were more active...  I Smashed   TALK!  15:07, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Coleco Donkey Kong.png
Image:Coleco Donkey Kong.png has been nominated for deletion at WP:FFD

70.29.213.241 (talk) 06:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Donkey Kong Country
Article is featured as this week's WP:VG's game collaboration of the week. Please try to improve the article if you can using reliable secondary sources if possible. MuZemike 16:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Essential Articles
the essential articles panel on the right toolbar seems broken as the characters tab is empty. Any perticular reason?  I Smashed   TALK!  22:35, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Remember that the page is transcluded from WikiProject Video Games/Nintendo/Essential articles, which is transcluded onto WikiProject Video games/Nintendo/right panel. Yeah, it's a bit overkill on transclusion IMHO. The next thing I want to do is try some new designs for the task force page so it's a little more accessible. For example, I just placed the GA and FA lists on the main page itself without putting them in a separate file, making those lists a little easier to edit. MuZemike 22:43, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah cool its fixed now. Let me know if you need any help. Its looking good. I Smashed   TALK!  20:41, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Remember to try to keep the list limited to articles of High- and Top-importance. As we have plenty of those, let alone those to improve and cleanup. MuZemike 05:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Proposed new TF page design
Been working on this in my Sandbox (still a work in progress). It combines everything onto one page, and some of the code is cleaned up, which should vastly improve usability and being able to edit it more easily. I have also slightly incorporated the design from P:N. Let me know how it looks, and make any additional suggestions if need be. MuZemike 00:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Would it be a good idea to make each section into templates, making the page less crowed and easier to control.  ' The Ninja  lemming '  18:19, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That can be done easily. MuZemike 22:27, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Not bad I prefer it but that reds a bit bright I Smashed   TALK!  15:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You can darken it if you wish. Also note that I'm trying to create a template for this, WikiProject Video games/Nintendo/boxheader, but it suppresses the edit buttons. If anyone knows how to fix this, go ahead and fix it. MuZemike 18:51, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Super Mario World collaboration
Super Mario World has been selected as this week's VG Collaboration of the week. Please cleanup and expand the source using reliable secondary sources if you can. Thanks, MuZemike 19:12, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

EXTension Port
Does anyone else here have another idea of how to deal with this article other than proposing deletion? If so, let me know, because I don't know. MuZemike 17:39, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Try finding the person who made it and find out what they used as a source, otherwise we will have to make a trip to googleland.  ' The Ninja  lemming '  18:21, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Enough time has been given for anything to be found; nothing has come up. Prodded. MuZemike 07:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * ...and deprodded. Sent to AFD → see Articles for deletion/EXTension Port. MuZemike 17:49, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

New Super Mario Bros.
Make sure to keep a watchful eye on New Super Mario Bros. as it is Today's Featured Article, which means it will be vandalized and frequently. MuZemike 02:06, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Automatic talk page archiving
Would anyone here oppose to having a bot automatically archive old sections on this page after, say, a month? If nobody opposes, I can go ahead and set that up. MuZemike 19:22, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Working on something, thought you might be interested.
The Legend of Zelda theme - eh? Anyone wanna make an awesome article?! - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 05:26, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Mario-stub nominated for deletion
I have nominated Mario-stub for deletion as it only has 14 stubs listed in there, and most are appropriately stub-sorted as Nintendo stubs. If you would like to discuss, see Stub types for deletion/Log/2009/May/30. MuZemike 05:44, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I support the deletion, so along those same lines, why not Category:Pokémon stubs and Category:Rareware stubs, with 17 and 22, respectively? If someone else agrees, I'll nom these two and their associated templates for SFD. ~ Amory (talk) 06:32, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The Rareware-stub probably won't get much resistance in regards to upmerging or deletion, but I strongly recommend starting a discussion at WikiProject Pokemon before nominating the Pokemon-stub for SFD, as that is not within this task force. MuZemike 06:57, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That is, not necessarily. The Nintendo task force covers Pokemon articles, but WikiProject Pokemon specializes in Pokemon articles. It needs a discussion over at that WikiProject before going for deletion. MuZemike 07:05, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Apparently I'm part of it!  In light of that, actually, I think I'll just stick with the Rareware.  The pokestub could actually be useful if a new batch came out, for example. ~ Amory (talk) 07:17, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Link (The Legend of Zelda) FAR
Giving a shout about it because it's one of the project's top priority articles, but I nominated Link for featured article review because of it's current quality. If people could take a look and offer input or improve the article that'd help greatly.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 18:50, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Proposal
Alright, here's the deal. I'm a big fan of the old Nentindo 64, and I noticed that there was a large amount of 64-related pages that had lost their ratings. I propose to launch Operation 64 Salvation, let me describe. We go to 64-related articles, and get them back on the featured list. Please join me in this endeavor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukefan3 (talk • contribs) 17:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * -Im up for it if you will head it I Smashed   TALK!  17:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Metroid: Other M
Can someone here try to address the problems in this article and try to cut down what seems to be nothing but a play-by-play commentary on the game's trailer and other speculation, preferably someone with some extensive Metroid experience (personally, I've stopped playing just before the Prime series started, so I wouldn't know much about the underlying background story). MuZemike 16:00, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * -Ive got prime but really I cant see what I can really add. I Smashed   TALK!  17:42, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Game Watches
Should there be an article about Nintendo Game Watches (or perhaps game watches in general), like this Legend of Zelda watch? As a child, I remember having Mario Bros. and Tetris game watches, and a Google search shows at least Star Fox and Donkey Kong versions. I know that we have a Game & Watch article, but these seem to be a separate line of products and the LoZ one is the first mention I've seen of them. Are they notable? —Ost (talk) 18:42, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

FYI of WT:VG discussion
For those not aware, there's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games related to a number of articles that falls under your scope. Please be aware of the information there and assist if possible. Thanks. (Guyinblack25 talk 19:54, 19 June 2009 (UTC))

Templates for deletion nomination of a bunch of Nintendo hardware subtemplates
A bunch of Nintendo hardware subtemplates have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. User:Dancter has informed me that they were used to reduce clutter but it appears that they are no longer used in that capacity. I guess I'm just letting you guys know in case you want to keep the main template the way it is or if you want to reintroduce the subtemplates. Axem Titanium (talk) 22:49, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Wii Balance Board collaboration
I neglected to post when Game Boy Color selected as the video game collaboration two weeks ago. This week's is Wii Balance Board. Please help to appropriately expand and cleanup the page. —Ost (talk) 17:58, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Help with Japanese
I was wondering if anyone with the required language skills could confirm the CERO rating for the re-release of Super Mario Kart on the Virtual Console (I'm pretty sure it's A). Relevant links - the official Nintendo page for the game and the CERO website. Just an identification of the link would be appreciated. Guest9999 (talk) 17:55, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The CERO's site doesn't have Super Mario Kart listed (for SNES or VC; see here), and Nintendo's Japanese site doesn't seem to mention a CERO rating. Sorry. - sesu  PRIME  05:24, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Mario Pinball Land
I have added a substancial amount of information to the article. Should it still be in the Mario-related stubs list, or does more need to be added ( though I cant think what). Thanks. 18:19, 17 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pacman100 (talk • contribs)
 * Yes. I suggest more references, a Development section, and more reviews (with references). GamerPro64 (talk) 18:33, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, no. There is more content in there that it shouldn't be a stub. However, it does need cleanup and reliable referencing. I'm removing the stub templates there (BTW, why hasn't anyone deleted Mario-stub, yet) and assessing as Start-Class. MuZemike 20:11, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, most of the material in the Gameplay section, including enemies and items, need to be removed. Wikipedia is not a game guide; that is, giving minute detail on gameplay is discouraged. Thank you, MuZemike 20:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the unessasary information I added, I will edit it out and keep only the important bits. Information on the development of the game is proving a little hard to come by. I meant to sign the first post but for somereason it didn't appear, sorry.Pacman100 (talk) 17:35, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There should be stuff out there, as this game was released only five years ago (unlike most NES games which prove hard to find such sources). MuZemike 21:59, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Help needed to update Portal:Nintendo
Help is needed to update Portal:Nintendo, especially the "in the news" section, which is sorely out-of-date (about three months to be exact). Can anyone help and chip in by updating it? That would be greatly appreciated. MuZemike 02:24, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Boredom strikes!
User:New Age Retro Hippie/Power-ups in the Mario series If anyone wants to help improve that - specifically, writing descriptions for the items themselves, that'd be great! - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 20:32, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Persistent vandalism on Nintendo-related articles
Also cross-posted on WT:VG

See Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, where the target from the mentioned IPs have been multiple Nintendo-related articles. If anyone has any other information regarding these IPs or any possible sockmaster, please contribute to that discussion. Regards, MuZemike 21:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Premade VG citation templates
I've created some premade citation templates of the most commonly used sources, including GameSpot, IGN, and 1UP.com. This can be found over at User:MuZemike/Templates. If anyone wants to use them for reference, please go ahead. Many of the entries have already been filled out, just fill in the blanks where needed (the entries with nothing after the equal sign). Cheers, MuZemike 05:28, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * There is also some discussion on how exactly the cite web be used that was brought up at WT:VG if anyone wants to participate in that discussion. MuZemike 18:47, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Is GoNintendo.com reliable?
Well, is it? - sesu  PRIME  02:53, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Doesn't look like it is. A lot of the reviews on that website is user-submitted, and with no proof of fact-checking or accuracy, I can't see how it's a reliable source in any way. MuZemike 16:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm with MuZemike on this. Ignoring the reviews, all of the news stories look like copy-pastes from other webpages or were emailed from users (same thing) with no accreditation and with nothing added.  It could be useful for finding out about news that one could then reliably source elsewhere at the proper location, but it itself is not reliable.  Also, I think a good rule of thumb to be added to WP:RS is that any website that has All Your Base Are Belong To Us on the navigation banner, even if it's one of a random series of quotes, is never reliable (especially since the other random quotes are just internet/video game memes or stolen from bash). ~ Amory ( user  •  talk  •  contribs ) 16:54, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Nintendo development teams
The articles related to List of Nintendo developers, Nintendo Development Teams and Template:Nintendo developers (and these 3 pages themselves) are a real mess. Any help in checking facts, merging duplicates, merging non-notable internal microteams, etc. would be appreciated. Megata Sanshiro (talk) 11:07, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Additional input, please

 * "[The Game Boy] was also the first handheld game to use video game cartridges since Milton Bradley's Microvision handheld console."

An IP user is claiming this sentence from Game Boy is inaccurate because the Epoch Game Pocket Computer was released before the Game Boy. I'm not sure about the sources he provided, so could someone take a look at Talk:Game Boy? Thanks. - sesu  PRIME  22:00, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Split Midna out?
I believe this version of the Midna article, User:New Age Retro Hippie/Midna, should be its own article. It has both sections required to form its own article, and it's somewhat well-written. It may have been merged once, but I believe it was merged for lack of notability, not the character itself being unworthy of being separate. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 01:15, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Geist's GAR
Here's the link. GamerPro64 (talk) 02:38, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Placed up in the to-do list. Next time, you can do that yourself; just follow the formatting lead. That reminds me that I have to fix the same link on the main task force page. MuZemike 02:42, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Recurring characters in the Fire Emblem series
I have started a discussion on the Fire Emblem talk page. Aether7 (talk) 18:22, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Game cube i am tryin to bring the gamecube up to
i am tryin to bring the gamecube up to a B, and then work slowly on to a possible GA, i could use some help. -- Pedro J. the rookie 03:38, 17 September 2009 (UTC)