Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/The Sims/Participants

Why was this reordered? Shouldn't it go by seniority of the project? Sincerely,  Electrical  Experiment  14:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Seniourity of the project? What does that mean? Alphabetical order is the fairest way. Oh and it's not standard to use Sigs - better to use the user template.  B  G  7even   15:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I refer you to Sincerely,  Electrical  Experiment  14:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I mean the part thats says "a list where users add themselves at the bottom is a lot more usual from what I see. " Sincerely,  Electrical  Experiment  18:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I refer you to:
 * WikiProject Trains
 * WikiProject Aviation/Members
 * WikiProject New York City Public Transportation/Participants
 * to list just a few.
 *  B  G  7even   18:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * WOW Three. I refer you to
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 * Sincerely,  Electrical  Experiment  21:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Editor assistance/Requests
Ive filed a Request for Editor assistance on this. Sincerely,  Electrical  Experiment  21:36, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Dispute
Ok, so there's a dispute.

I've reverted to the original, so there can be no arguments.

What is better:


 * 1) Jammy (talk)
 * 2) Martin23230 (talk)
 * 3) Frecklefσσt | Talk
 * 4)  .:  Alex  :. 
 * 5)  BG  7  
 * 6) Electrical Experiment (talk) 21:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) SimpsonsFan08  talk Sign Here Please
 * 8) Darkside2000 (talk)
 * 9) ♥ Shapiros10  Wuz  Here ♥
 * 10)   Sexy  Sea  Clownfish  

or

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The first is easier to add to, however if you look above there have been many arguments about seniority. The second is more organised and is fairer as there can be no disputes as to the order.  B  G  7even   08:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't find it fair so you start another vote which you know you're still going to lose? The first one isn't about seniority, it's about being easy. Simple, edit it, add your name to the bottom, how easy is that? Second one, "oh great I got to find my letter in the alphabet, now where's J, why did I never learn the alphabet? Oh there it is, why didn't they just make it easier instead of having to find my own letter?" This is only a small wikiproject, why the need for such advance methods? No doubt you'll lose yet another vote, and unless you win this vote, then the list will remain with my name on top, not because I want to be leader, but because putting yourself at the top when you have no right to is meaning that you think you're better than us, are you? No of course not, we're ALL EQUAL. This may seem seniority, but seniority is better than dictatorship, so live with it. Jammy (talk) 18:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok If another vote is in order I Vote the signitues.  Electrical  Experiment  19:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What If a User dosn`t have a letter At the Beginning. (Ex. –,…,§,±,≥,≤,≠,₳,฿,₵,Ώ,ɰ,ect.) ?  Electrical  Experiment  20:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Third opinion
In my experience, list of members of wikiprojects tend to be organized as the first instance, where you add a pound sign and four tildes to sign your name. It's a lot easier for new users to put their name down that way. Example 2 is cumbersome as it resembles a category, but isn't one, so you need advanced formatting for the columns. What if someone gets confused and, using the above example, means to add to "J", and puts it under the column 3 template? Now the table is messed up. Additionally, it would need constant tweaking to keep the columns even. I'd recommend a numbered list. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 01:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Fine. But let's do it with User Template. And no numbers. As people have said above it shows seniority - something I have never said.  B  G  7even   10:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I would've thought numbers would've showed the amount of members in the project. Jammy (talk) 12:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * So do I but people seem to be taking that as how high in the project you are ranked. So it is easier to either have this at the bottom: Total current active participants:n or just not have one.  B  G  7even   14:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, as long as it not need to update manually when someone adds themself to the project. Oh by the way, during an ICT lesson I asked two friends who sit on either side of me what they thought was a better list. They picked the first list as they said the first one was easier and that the second one was a mess. It's not an official vote but I'm just saying that's what they thought. Jammy (talk) 16:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If people mistake it as seniority, then point them in the right direction rather than change the list - that's my view. x42bn6 Talk Mess  23:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)