Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Washington/Archive 3

Request for assistance with the Spokane, WA GAN
I would like all willing editors to help with the Spokane, Washington article. This article is all but guaranteed to reach GA status, and I think it has matured enough to nominate it as a FAC after it achieves GA status. It would also be real nice if we had some more editors on this article, I feel the article has been neglected by the WikiProject Washington community. I've gotten lonely the past few weeks editing this article pretty much by myself, and I would be appreciative if others would help this Washington–related article in its' time of need, I've heard the FAC gauntlet can be quite arduous.

Thank you,  Anon134 (talk) 06:46, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Depends, you going to help with the Seattle FAR? I haven't had much time/interest in responding to the latest issues identified by the reviewers and I'd imagine that if the issues identified are not improved in the near future the article is going to go into the WP:FARC process and shortly there after lose the golden star. --Bobblehead (rants) 02:26, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Apparently Bobblehead has lost interest because of reasons unknown to me...but if others would like to help this Washington related article, feel free to help.

Bobblehead, I didnt know this was a quid pro quo relationship and you wanted something in return...Im trying to help a Washington-related article improve on the quality scale --im helping this WikiProject. Isnt that what this is all about? The Seattle article isnt the only article in this project. In my opinion it shouldnt matter what article im improving in this Project --Im not even in this project, and im helping it-- I ask for nothing in return, just some help from people who are already in this WikiProject (whos stated mission and goals are to improve Washington articles).

I dont understand why you are asking me why you (someone in the Washington WikiProject) should help an article within this WikiProject improve, and asking for something in return (from someone who isnt in this WikiProject and doesnt live in Wasihngton). I see that you are also in WikiProject EasternWashington group as well, which confuses me even further. Im not editing the Seattle article because it is already featured; im sorry for that, Bobblehead. But, I thought you and people in this WikiProject cared and were interested in improving Washington related articles...it sounds like this isnt exactly true. If It should be known that i've never lived in Washington, I go to school at WSU, but live in San Diego, California; I still need help from Washington natives.

Now, if you are referring to the Spokane article in the second sentence (no subject in the sentece), then I also dont understand why you didnt discuss these issues in the Talk when I told you of my intentions to do that earlier (simply saying its not worth the effort to get it featured), I would like you to share what those issues are, if you become interested again you could come back and share them with the editors of the article so we can improve upon them. I think we should strive for excellence for all WikiProject Washington articles.

Anon134 (talk) 20:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup. Further proof that sarcasm doesn't translate well in text. :) --Bobblehead (rants) 19:42, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Requested move notification
I have requested the move of Empire Builder to Empire Builder (Amtrak). Reasons given at the talk page. Mjroots (talk) 14:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Election FAR
nominated Washington gubernatorial election, 2004 for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. DrKiernan (talk) 08:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

HistoryLink.org - malware?
user:VegitaU earlier removed a link from Louie Sam as the version of Firefox they're using tripped it up for allegedly having malware. This doesn't sound right, and if it's real it's sad as that site has a lot of history that no other site has. Please see User_talk:Skookum1 and comment/research/advise....Skookum1 (talk) 03:38, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * In short: ridiculous. The single best online source for Washington State history. - Jmabel | Talk 06:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I had a rare popup from Casale Media while on the site. I might have picked up the cookie earlier but it seemed a little off.Cptnono (talk) 22:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

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Stemilt Growers
Here is a link to a draft article about Stemilt Growers, a tree fruit company in Wenatchee, Washington: User:BBrue/StemiltGrowers Please note that I work for Stemilt. I kept this factual in order to reduce bias. —Preceding undated comment added 00:34, 4 March 2009 (UTC).

Would like some help
Last time I asked didnt yield any results, but I can always hope for better. Ive been editing the Spokane, Washington article almost exclusively for the last several months, and I think it would be fantastic if others could either join in on the fun and edit, or if not that, point out some problems and concerns or float ideas on how to improve the articles quality on the Talk page. I know the Spokane article isnt even rated on the WikiProject importance scale, but I think it is worthy of some attention. The article is a Good Article and has potential to be featured if we put a little more time and effort into it. Also, if you know anything about the golden state, feel free to join WikiProject California! Thanks a bunch, Anon134 (talk) 23:23, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Adding Homeowners Associations to External Links
I'm interested in adding some links to applicable Homeowners Associations to the External Links section of Seattle Hill-Silver Firs, Washington. According to the policies, it seems that this is permissible. Please let me know if I am incorrect.

To the same section, I would also like to add a link to a discussion group for residents of this area. That seems to go against the policy. However, if it is a discussion group specific for the residents, then does that make it permissible?

Thanks for the input. StephenWA (talk) 18:04, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Without the proposed Homeowners Association link to review, it's difficult to give a clear answer on this. If the association represents a significant percentage of the population in the region, then it may be appropriate; if it's just one of several homeowners associations in a region, then it's not really appropriate as it would be too small of a subset of the true subject of the article.
 * The discussion group should not be added; remember, the Wikipedia entry for the region is not intended to provide residents of that region with an internet directory. Links to discussion groups/forums/etc are routinely removed from articles as linkspam that violate WP:ELNO and WP:NOT.  --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 18:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

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Pegasus crossing in Redmond
I just randomly ran across the article about Pegasus crossings, and remembered the one on Avondale in Redmond. Can anyone get a picture, or a description from a reliable source? I'm a bit out of area these days. :-)--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 03:11, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Norman Bridge
Anyone know anything about the Norman Bridge in North Bend Washington? It's a wooden truss bridge listed on the National Register of Historic Places, and I see a few references to it online, but I suspect it has been demolished some time in the last few years. I went looking for it today, and found a place where I suspect a bridge may recently have been (two "matching" small parking lots on either side of a river just off of 428th Ave. SE), but no bridge. - Jmabel | Talk 06:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * http://your.kingcounty.gov/kcdot/news/thisweekarch/2004/tw081604_ftbl.htm It looks like it was brought down in '04.Cptnono (talk) 08:24, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Anyone got an old picture for National Register of Historic Places listings in King County, Washington? - Jmabel | Talk 04:38, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Green River Trail
Remarkably, we have no article at all about the Green River Trail. - Jmabel | Talk 06:53, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

I've now added a Commons page documenting the northern 15 miles or so of the trail. - Jmabel | Talk 04:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I've now added a short article. - Jmabel | Talk 23:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Barats and Bereta
Any locals able to find any sources on these guys from Spokane? Dunno what they did in a past life but recently there was this and then this. I did find a couple of independent reliable sources but more would be good, plus some commentary on the youtube phenomenon maybe? Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:09, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

mormon temple in spokane
There is a Mormon temple in Spokane, WA. Should the article belong to this WikiProject? LDS-SPA1000 (talk) 03:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes and while your at it it can go with wikiproject Eastern Washington as well -- GoldMan60  ¤  Talk  06:29, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

mormon temple in Seattle
There is a Mormon temple in Seattle. Should the article belong to this WikiProject? LDS-SPA1000 (talk) 18:49, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Also Yes and add it to WikiProject Seattle while your at it too -- GoldMan60  ¤  Talk  23:43, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure that would be the one in Bellevue. If there were a Mormon Temple in Seattle, I believe I'd know about it. - Jmabel | Talk 22:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

mormon temple in Richland
There is a Mormon temple in Richland. Should the article belong to this WikiProject? LDS-SPA1000 (talk) 17:51, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Easy rule of thumb: If something is in/pertains to Washington, the article(if it exists) belongs in this WP and any appropriate subprojects.--Kevmin (talk) 22:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

bot request
I have made a request that a bot add our wikiproject banner to all articles within the category Category:Washington (U.S. state) and its sub categories any objections, if there are any I will withdraw the request. -- Gold Man60  Talk  02:52, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I have withdrawn the request until we mark all the categories that have only washington related articles with -- Gold Man60   Talk  18:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

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Reading With Rover
Just pulled this one out of the speedy queue, maybe someone wants to fix it up a bit. Btw, I decline and prod a fair number of speedies, and I always add project tags when I do, which means they'll show up on your project page under "Article Alerts". - Dank (push to talk) 03:29, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Washington renaming to Washington (U.S. state)
That renaming is really causing a headache, as there must be thousands of articles whose links to the Washington article were broken. I'm probably the only one repairing these links at the moment, and maybe some others could join in this attempt? (The broken link is probably misleading a bunch of visitors to Wikipedia.) Shannon1  talk   contribs  01:18, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, interesting... Only the categories were renamed? Shannon1  talk   contribs  01:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think this is one of the few times the argument Administrative Nightmare can be used to oppose an article's move. If this ever happens I'm staying far far far away from it hahaha. -- Gold Man60  Talk  18:13, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Ku Klux Klan in Washington State in the 1920s
I ran across this interesting page (with links to several others), part of the Seattle Civil Rights and Labor History Project. Someone may want to use this as the basis of an article. - Jmabel | Talk 22:38, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Creating stubs for state parks that are currently redlinks
Hi all, I'm going to try and add stubs for as many state parks as I can, since currently more than half of them are redlinks at Template:Protected Areas of Washington. To that end, here's some generic edit text I put together to make it easy to put together consistent, generic stubs. Anyone else who wants to work on these should jump right in; we're blessed with a state that has plenty of parks to go around.

Terms in CAPS are my generic reminders that need to be filled in with specific appropriate details. The only two references needed are the GNIS record, which should be easy to search for here and the specific park's Web site, which you can find at the Washington park list (click "Complete Park Information" in the navigation menu, bottom left, to get complete information).

All the information needed for the body, references, and other templates should be on those two sites. Don't miss the latitude and longitude near the bottom or it will display a useless generic message on the new page. I've set it up to use decimal latitude & longitude without compass directions so that they can be easily copied & pasted from the full GNIS record. The references are set up to take advantage of the new WP:LDR. Apologies that the text runs off the screen; I don't know how to make it not do that within the preformatted text tags without adding newlines that would then mess up the layout when new pages are displayed after wiki markup.

Finally, don't forget to add the WikiProject Washington template on the talk page if you create new pages for the parks, as well as checking that old link in the Protected Areas template now links to the new article! Thanks for any help; also, suggestions for improvements would be appreciated.

PARKNAME in COUNTY County, Washington is one of the Washington State Parks. It consists of ACREAGE acres of TERRAIN&LOCATION. Available activities include ACTIVITIES.

Article importance
Does this project have an explanation for how to assess article importance within the project? In other words, how do I know whether to assess article X as "mid" or "low" or "top"? -Rrius (talk) 00:09, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Peer reviews

 * Seattle Sounders FC and Qwest Field are both currently under peer review if you have any thoughts. Peer review/Seattle Sounders FC/archive1 and Peer review/Qwest Field/archive1.  Cptnono (talk) 04:49, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Qwest Field is up for FAC. Comments are appreciated: Featured article candidates/Qwest Field/archive1.Cptnono (talk) 19:01, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised and saddened at you Washingtonians for not coming out. Even a vote against is better than nothing. The new Sounders FC task force looks to have more active members than Wikiproject Washington. So since some of you might be or might have been involved in some of our prestigious institutions: Qwest Field requires an image from UW, WSU, WWU, EWU, CWU cheerleaders or guys on the field. Do you have one?Cptnono (talk) 13:14, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Seattle Sounders FC nominated for FA review
I recently nominated the article for FA review. I wanted to post a notification of that here and invite any of the project members to join in the review and provide feedback. Thanks! --SkotyWATalk|Contribs 17:16, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Picture needed
Greetings all! According to this, Stanwood's new Amtrak station officially opens on November 21, with the first Cascades scheduled to arrive at 9:03 in the morning. If there are any rail-minded folks near Stanwood this would be a great picture-taking opportunity. Allegedly there's a celebration, so maybe there'll be free coffee or something to sweeten the deal. Cheers, Mackensen (talk) 16:09, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Willapa people
I just created a stub for this vanished people, which was one of the "blank spots" in coverage of NA tribes in Washington, there's more in the cite and blips that should be added to Willapa Bay et al, and there's no Willapa, Washington article. Also missing from NA coverage in Washington is an article for the Chemakum people.Skookum1 (talk) 15:33, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Frederick Heath (architect)
This article is really coming along on an early 20th Century architect who designed many buildings in Tacoma and other areas. More photos and any assistance are welcome. Cheerios. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:17, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Killer Whale - featured article review
nominated Killer Whale for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Tom B (talk) 19:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC)