Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards/Archive 17

User:Cobi/Cluebot's Barnstar
What about giving an Anti-Vandalism barnstar to User:Cobi/Cluebot? They have reverted so many vandalism edits.--HyperSonic X (talk) 10:14, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem, if you are strong about one, you can always give by pasting the message ~ or as shown in the barnstar on their talk page -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 02:01, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Featured barnstar
Don't you think that the Template:FA-Barnstar should be replaced to The Featured Content Barnstar. And why is the The WikiProject Slipknot Barnstar in the Topical Barnstars section, it should be in here. And Template:Robotics Barnstar should have an image related to barnstars and the gears both. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 12:30, 1 September 2010 (UTC)-- Extra    999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 12:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Cryptobarnstar
Hi! The WP:CRYZOO needs a barnstar to award to editors who make great contributions to Cryptozoology related articles. We need someone who is skilled in graphical programming to contrive the design. The general idea is it would involve a barnstar with the head of a Okapi or Loch Ness Monster engraved on it. Any help?-- Gniniv (talk) 07:36, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I prefer the Loch Ness Monster, since it's more famous, and less difficult to draw.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:37, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * So, I made three:


 * They're all pretty sloppy, so feel free to tweak them. BTW sorry for not responding when you first asked in archive 15.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:01, 21 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for your help!-- Gniniv (talk) 09:04, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we will use the third one.-- Gniniv (talk) 09:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The third one does look best, but it could still use some more work. Simon Burchell (talk) 09:57, 21 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it could be used used temporarily but the animal looks sloppy. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 10:15, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Kayau, do you mind if I modify it? sonia ♫  10:19, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Not at all. Though you might have a hard time doing it, because I have made quite a mess of it... And don't forget, they're all bitmaps. BTW I'll be leaving Wikipedia tomorrow and won't be back till next year. I'll still be on en.wikibooks, zh.wikibooks and sometimes en.wikinews, though.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil C U NEXT YEAR 10:43, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought I might try. so I came up with this (all my own work, honest guv.)


 * Props to Kayau for the base idea. (I ain't no artist). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendroche (talk • contribs) 13:47, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent work! I think your design should be combined with Kayua's third design by putting your worm behind Kayua's star.-- Gniniv (talk) 23:23, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I am renaming the Barnstar the "Nessie" Barnstar for greater recognition.-- Gniniv (talk) 23:59, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * New design per suggestion:



— HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:07, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow! Looks best. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 01:36, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Environmental barnstar revisited so soon
I noticed this one in the archives after following a link and just realised that it clashed with the Geography Barnstar. Should one be redesigned?



Simply south (talk) 19:25, 5 September 2010 (UTC)




 * Barnstar is designed for 100px width, not 150px. It is a .png and so will look blurry at other sizes.


 * Oppose on grounds of "plastic" look versus original rough look and changing the colour theme. The barnstar was upgraded recently by consensus while preserving the previous look - is the old one, also selected by consensus. There is also an .svg alternative  already. —  HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 19:41, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Agree -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 01:14, 6 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose The Environmental Barnstar was recently retouched in a way that it keeps the original design with the green star. It also goes with "going green". ~  Nerdy Science Dude  02:45, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Keeping up with current events Barnstar
Is it a good idea to have a Barnstar for someone who keeps up with current events and edits Wikipedia accordingly? --Akhil 0950 (talk) 00:35, 6 September 2010 (UTC)



Please make ALT
Greetings again! Here are new remastered barnstars. Please someone make alt in the templates. Thanks in advance :)

Comment The userpage barnstar could not show it's importance and usage as before. It look's like a simple barnstar with no concentration on a a matter or a subject (Ex:Original, Editor, Working man). Others look fine. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 10:58, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ditto. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:09, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Here are 4 different types. Let me know which one you like and I will upload it to commons in high-resolution png. Antonu (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:25, 3 September 2010 (UTC).
 * Aah, I like all the new ones - especially Type 3 and 2 -, others suggestions are more welcome. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 01:23, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Please upload Type 2 and 3. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 01:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose new userpage award, Support the others. The userpage award looks fine as it is. ~  Nerdy Science Dude  03:54, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with NSD, I like the new ones as alt possibilities, but the Userpage barnstar is already an SVG. Offering the PNG to replace it seems like change for the sake of change (which is certainly allowable, but I don't think it should be encouraged). VernoWhitney (talk) 12:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It will not be replaced, these just pop as an alternate barnstar. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 01:24, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I know they won't be replaced, which is why I made a point of saying "I don't think it should be encouraged" to replace an 8kb svg barnstar with a 1+ MB png barnstar. VernoWhitney (talk) 03:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed that less is more, when it comes to bandwidth usage. With thanks to Antonu for his craftsmanship on some lovely sharp images, still, could we dumb them down to a few dozen kilobytes? I think that the WikiCommons invitation to upload the highest resolution image possible is to make the most of dramatic photos and artwork. A barnstar should be closer to say, an HTML or Unicode |Unicode dingbat or symbol, like &#9730;  or &#9758;  or  &#9825;  ElijahBosley  (talk &rArr;) 21:10, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your assessment. But let me draw your attention that the size of the smaller (thumb) versions is even smaller than the original barnstars. Examples:

= 12.3 kilobytes. = 11.3 kilobytes.

= 19 kilobytes. = 13.5 kilobytes.

= 16.7 kilobytes. = 16.0 kilobytes.

= 19.5 kilobytes. = 13.2 kilobytes.

= 5.1 kilobytes. = 8.9 kilobytes. Antonu (talk) 07:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I don't think it matters much that you uploaded huge pngs instead of svgs. The thumbnails are pre-rendered anyways, as you demonstrate in detail. I think other editors are just concerned with Commons storage space.— HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:06, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Antonu and HellKnows, and I find my concern about that misplaced. The WIkicomons FAQ confirms that "You don't have to worry about server disk space and the loadtime of the Wikipedia pages that refer to them, since the software automatically generates and caches smaller (as specified in the articles) versions." I am not sure we've reached consensus on the revised Userpage barnstar, but as for the rest, I assume that Antonu could simply replace the existing images at Wikicommons; the Wikicommons FAQ page says how.ElijahBosley (talk &#9758;)  13:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for enlightening me. I see no problems with any of them as alts then, or really any alts period. VernoWhitney (talk) 13:40, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Should we repurpose LGBT Barnstar?
As you probably know, the LGBT Barnstar selection criteria reads as follows:

The LGBT Barnstar is awarded to editors who make significant contributions that expand Wikipedia’s knowledge about homosexuality, bisexuality, transexuality, LGBT life and culture, notable LGBT people, events and movements, sociological issues, and population statistics.

The three things I bolded have the potential to carry politically charged content. Thanks to the prodigious noisemaking of the LGBT community, many issues, including the definition of homophobia, have been heavily and in many cases irreversably politicized, but to omit them would be to omit notable content. Is this an issue? If so, how should we deal with it?

Just thinking out loud here. Icanhasaccount (talk) 16:03, 10 September 2010 (UTC)


 * So what is omitted currently and should be added? I am unfamiliar at all with the subject. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:16, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking we should delete content rather than add it. True, we will end up omitting potentially notable information, but like I said the LGBT community is trying to politicize everything and we must be very adamant about NPOV even if it does mean ignoring some things. I believe the relevant barnstar should be repurposed to exclude materials particularly suceptible to POV, or at least a policy implemented that allows the award to be revoked if the neutrality of any of that user's edits is disputed or confirmed to be POV. Icanhasaccount (talk) 00:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


 * So what content do you propose for deletion? LGBT having a strong opinion does not prevent editors to create NPOV material about LGBT opinions. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 01:18, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Icanhasaccount seems a relative newbie judging from his Userpage, and in accord with Wiki's salutary policy  of Don't bite the Newbie, I'll say a friendly welcome, glad to see you, and thanks for the views that the LGBT Barnstar reflects the "prodigious noisemaking" of the LGBT community "trying to politicize everything," that the Barnstar should be "repurposed;" even "revoked if the neutrality of any of that user's edits is disputed." um--ANY? Neutrality is of course an ideal from which of all of us may fall short from time to time.  I will award Icanhasaccount my personal user award as his Userpage seems perhaps to want one.  It's given as a courtesy for edits that energize and revivify even if not quite Barnstar worthy--in this case mindful of the Russian proverb "that which does not kill me makes me stronger."ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  17:11, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Revivify? Is that even a word? Anyway, I probably was a little "strong" there, but still LGBT is one of the most politically charged subjects facing the world today and if nothing else we must be extra vigilant against POV materials. I just saw potential POVness and thought that if the guy giving the barnstar wasn't careful he could end up praising someone for potential POV material - it's hard to tell what's POV and what's not in that field. Icanhasaccount (talk) 20:36, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Revivify is indeed a word, to impart new life, new energy, new spirit, a cheerful word from the Old French revivir, to come back to life. An example of its use: "In politics it often happens that an pushing a 'hot button' energizes the opposition and revivified, with fresh fighting spirit, they fight harder than ever."  Best wishes, ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  22:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, um. You may want to consider that "the LGBT community is trying to politicize everything" might be a fairly heavy POV. &mdash;chaos5023 (talk) 22:31, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

I oppose the repurposing of the barnstar by removal of LGBT-related scope on the basis that LGBT have a strong opinion. The award is for editors and not LGBT; it is irrelevant if LGBT is controversial or not. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 23:00, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Animals
G'day I was wondering if your project would be willing to create some awards, barnstars and medals for WikiProject Animals. We have only currently have the Fauna Barnstar however I would like to update it and create some newer awards that can be given out to our members and our child projects. Some ideas I would like to have are:
 * Top Animal article contributor award.
 * Article assessment award, for users who have assessed more then 600 articles. (I would also like this as a medal)
 * Cross project collaboration award (for users who assist in developing articles with more then 1 animals project attached)
 * Inter Animal Project involvement medal (for users that are active members on 3 or more Animal related projects)

and a few others. I would ask for any suggestions or ideas. If you are to busy please let me know and I will try create them myself.

Cheers Zoo Pro 12:14, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Do you have any concrete design ideas, such as, barnstar/award layout/colours/attributes? It is always easier to work with more precise needs. Also, I think you are proposing too many awards that may in fact be rarely used. Would it be better to have, say, 3-4 awards for particular topics/fields/activities? — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:22, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Template:Pack of Wolves Barnstar Template:Pack of Wolves Award
I have created a barnstar, basicly for animal lovers or as a joke about how admins, or some users work some times, that they seem to have a pack of wolves at there beck and call. It can be found at Template:Pack_of_Wolves_Barnstar and has been properly documented. I would like for it to be added to the WP:BARN listing, so I am looking for opinions :D

Example
Thank you :> -- Wolfnix •  Talk  • 17:26, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Lovely picture of white wolves, but I think of this more as a personal user award than a barnstar. In concept it seems more in the nature of a Personal User Award--and there's no barnstar evident in the image, unless perhaps the wolf recently ate one?ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  17:37, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The wolf ate it, thats it XD This is my first attempt at making a Barnstar, or Personal User Award xD I impose a barnstar on the image, but I don't own it -- Wolfnix •  Talk  • 17:43, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Well you did an excellent job manufacturing the template, though a picky editor might scratch his cheek and quietly wonder whether the text could possibly have meant to say "their" instead of "there," and whether "vigilent" or "vigilence" might substitute for vigilents. I know of no Personal User Award that quite conveys what this one does, and I do endorse its use as a PUA.ElijahBosley (talk &#9758;)  17:58, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, if this is approved as a PUA, I will move the page, and rewrite the title. I also fixed that grammar >.> -- Wolfnix •  Talk  • 18:06, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Agree for this to be a PUA, oppose barnstar (it's not actually a barnstar). The picture is good if slightly off contrast. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:58, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Upped the contrast a bit. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 19:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Is the pack of wolves barnstar used for those who patrol WP:ANI:-) ? Acting like a pack of wolves is typically not considered to be a positive thing ... ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 20:21, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It is for those whom are quick, efficent, sometimes vichious and always wish to be quicker. So, therefore some times it would pertain to the people who patrol WP:ANI and WP:CSD plus all those editors who love to look are for Fair-Use images, you know the ones we *LOVE*. Acting like a pack of wolves is a good thing, working as a team, working fast, efficient, and being cute as you do it. -- Wolfnix •  Talk  • 20:33, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Most up-to-date including the template being moved. The template is at Template:Pack of Wolves Award. Code would be put your citation here ~ -- Wolfnix •  Talk  • 03:56, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Updated Example

 * Er. Now that cranky old cheek-scratching editor is scratching his chin and wondering if perhaps "you're" was meant to be "your?"ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  15:20, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * That cranky old editor sounds alot like a certain english teacher that got bopped in the nose :> What is your opinion, other then the grammar please.... -- Wolfnix •  Talk  • 16:27, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * My opinion? Oh I like the wolves very much as a PUA. IN fact I think I will go ahead and award your own wolves to you for your quick action in correcting typos and errors, on your talkpage.ElijahBosley (talk &#9758;)  16:45, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar for advice?
Should we have a barnstar for advice? I've noticed many places where it could be applied, like the reference desks. Battleaxe9872 Talk 21:04, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Oppose I think the Guidance Barnstar, Adopt-a-User Barnstar, Reference Desk Barnstar, Admin Coaching Barnstar, and Helping Hand Barnstar deal well enough with advice. Icanhasaccount (talk) 21:16, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

How about the "Your Opinion is Worth More Than You Think" one? The Ray of Sunshine one too? Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:44, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

WP:Ribbons

 * ''The following discussions are an archived debate. Please do not modify it.

Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

As editors are getting more Barnstars over time, they are also get many of the same BarnStars. Here is a ribbon collection of one editor. <div class="NavFrame" style="clear:both; width:74%; margin:1em auto; padding:1px; background:#F0F8FF; border:1px solid #8888aa;">Barnstars and Awards I propose that Wikipedia should follow the Military protocol in such cases, and have Numbers assigned to ribbons when awarded more than once. (See Award numerals)

Pete Peters 20:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Support. However, you wouldn't want to make each numeral version of each ribbon a separate image, because that would mean hundreds if not thousands of files. Instead, you'd want a set of numerals, each of which could be superimposed on any ribbon. Below is a model of how you could superimpose the images. (Note that it requires all numeral images to be padded to the same size as the ribbons.)


 * Neon   Merlin   08:12, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Oppose. I believe that many editors would strongly object to the idea of military style ribbons. That's far too insensitive in regions of the world where people are dying to get those medal ribbons - and the pacifists amongst us would not want to be seen to be accumulating military-style awards.  If there is a problem with some editors having too many barnstars to fit onto their user pages - then let's just take the original barnstar image - shrink it to half size and make ten versions of it containing the digits zero through nine.  Users can than show that they have 137 barnstars by putting the '1', '3' and '7' stars together.  That fits with the present barnstar concept - it's very neutral - and it's utterly understandable to everyone who sees it.  SteveBaker 15:02, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The ribbons should be an optional choice. That is what I did when I created the things, but I guess people took the idea and began to use it in ways that blow my mind. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 07:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm a bit uncomfortable with the military look of the ribbons, and aesthetically I am not fond of the numbers. --Guinnog 07:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)


 * But by the same argument, don't we need to eliminate all military metaphor in Wikipedia, including such terms as edit war ? That would be taking the inoffensiveness thing way too far, especially given that the Profanity guideline tells us that inoffensiveness is not Wikipedia's top priority. (Indeed, if it were, we would hardly have any content at all.) Besides, I'm sure there are other non-military organizations (including some that are called armies but that have actually never been at war) that use similar systems of ribbons.  Neon    Merlin   04:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Displaying Ribbons is purely optional to the user. Users who accumulate too many Barnstars, sometimes make thier user page a Barnstar free zone because of all the clutter.  The ribbons reduce the clutter, and the numbers reduce the clutter even more, and thus is an incentive to keep them wanting to be recognized.  It is not just the Military who does this to award someones services, other professions do it too. Pete Peters 04:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Support I like it! also stars could be used such as on my userpage for ribbons I usually make a new ribbon if I get a new star. Æon Insane Ward 14:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Support. As for superimposing User:Cool cat wrote a nice little template for that a while ago... -- Grafikm  <sup style="color:red;">(AutoGRAF)  18:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Oppose Not only is this proposal insulting to editors who don't like the military, it's also insulting to those who support the military. While alienating everyone might be an amusing thing to do, this is not a good proposal and should be dropped.--Alabamaboy 18:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I used the Miliatry as an example, perhaps I should have said the Firefighters. Or Canadian Mail couriers service medals, maybe I am unaware of American tensions with the Military. I never figured that this is how this proposal would be disputed. Pete Peters 18:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Me neither, I don't understand that. They're an option. If you don't want to use it, don't, it's just as simple. But I think it is very nice, see for instance User:Cool_Cat/Awards for an example (or User:Grafikm_fr/Awards too since I stole copied the code... :P ) -- Grafikm  <sup style="color:red;">(AutoGRAF)  14:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm military and I'm not insulted. Anyways Civilians that work for the DOD plus police firefight ect get ribbons for awards.  How ever these should always remain an option on te wiki.  But maybe a little clean up of them would be nice.  Æon  <sup style="color:red;">Insanity Now! <sub style="color:green;">EA!  16:50, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


 * HYPERSTRONG SUPPORT !!!! I'm a military brat US Army, USAF w/ some family in secretive govt branches. I do'nt find the ribbons insulting at all. Martial Law 01:13, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Support. Much Better. Dfrg.m s c 1 . 2 . 3 07:47, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Just do it. --evrik 13:23, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Support. 07:10, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Support. Sharkface217 20:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Support. Very practical. Those of you pacifists who somehow think a picture of a piece of cloth is disgusting, go use downsized barnstars. --Joffeloff 23:32, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * 110% SUPPORT best idea yet. I am a prior-sevice US MARINE, my wife is active duty NAVY, my father and grandfather both were in the Navy, my uncle is retired US Army... NO ONE FINDS IT OFFENSIVE (I've asked). It's a GO for the ribbons (use the military star system for multiple awards). Sallicio (talk) 05:10, 9 January 2008 (UTC)Sallicio

Barnstar for Fdutil
Hi all.

I think that User:Fdutil really deserves a barnstar for his enormous work on the Awards and decorations of the Russian Federation and sub-pages! Unfortunately he has decided to leave wikipedia, but his work is really a great basis for a lot of other people to keep working on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skibden (talk • contribs) 00:33, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Then you should give him one. You might confer on him the Barnstar of Diligence  or the Barnstar of National Merit. Just cut-and-paste the text you see under "What to Type" to his talk page, and fill in the reason for the citation. Would you would write it in Russian? That is beyond my capabilities. <font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  02:11, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I read somewhere that to give a barnstar you should talk about it here or it would be deleted... So just checking it out.. Skibden (talk) 10:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Proposing a new kind of barnstar should be discussed. Giving a barnstar is the awarding editor's decision. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:04, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


 * In that case, I just need to learn how to read ;-) thx, case closed Skibden (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:51, 19 September 2010 (UTC).

Beer award
I needed a beer template to use as a thank you note, but did not find a ready-made one. The beer photos listed on Personal user awards are of very low quality. So after a thorough search in Commons I found a good image and designed this:

I hope someone can make a template out of it and place it where other users like me can find and use it. Regards, -- <font color="#0066CC">Orionist ★ <font color="#0066CC">talk  15:06, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


 * There are four beer related Personal User Awards, but they appear only to be Wikicommons image files, with no associated templates. I'll see whether I can generate a template for you. <font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  16:05, 21 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay done. The new  template works, and I've added it to the [[Wikipedia:Personal user awards/General PUA|

general category]] of Personal User Awards, rather than the "raise a glass high! category which looks to me like mere images with no templates to make use of them. <font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley (talk &#9758;)  16:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Stub Barnstar
I mean, we have a lot of stub here at Wikipedia. It woulb be a great idea. <font color="green" size="-1" face="Comic Sans MS">This is me, ha ha ha <font color="royal blue" size="-1" face="Algerian">From the guy with the weirdest dreams, <font color="red" size="-1" face="Old English Text MT">Computer97 13:36, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * There's already a great userbox for it here that looks like ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 14:28, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


 * One for expanding them? -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 02:21, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Problem with anti vandalism barnstar
I awarded an IP the anti vandalism barnstar for reverting vandalism, but when I tried to include a link, things went weird. Here's a copy of what I was originally going to say to the IP:

See what happened? Here it is again, without the markup:

For removing this vandalism on Irish Wolfhound, this barnstar is for you.message ~

-- The Utahraptor Talk to me/Contributions 22:31, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Utahraptor: my guess is you may have inadvertantly removed the "|" when you typed the message. Try again, being careful to preserve the "subst:The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar|" part and deleting only the word "message" when you type your award citation.<font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  23:27, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The problem is that you are using an unnamed parameter, but the value has an equals sign in it. To prevent this from occuring, you can explicitly supply the 1=. – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 23:29, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, as I look at it I think Xeno's diagnosis right and mine wrong. Your text does have the requisite "|"<font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley (talk &#9758;)  23:36, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Whoa there!
This, um, Personal User Award would appear on a talk page to give somebody a backhanded compliment, a citation for "Exceptionally speedy action--maybe going just a tad too fast--in correcting an egregious typo," for instance. But I dunno, it may be too dramatic. "Use this one sparingly," suggests its talk page. "Let newbies go with a warning. Repeat vandals, you can report to an administrator. Don't forget to stop for donuts." Not understated one might say; maybe even nerve wracking. Seen this in the rear view mirror once too often. I'll await comments before making the template generally available as a post on the Personal User Awards page.<font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley (talk &#9758;)  23:45, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

California Barnstar
There is a barnstar for Oklahoma, so why not California? How about a newbie barnstar for newbies who may not neccesarilly have done something major, but something significant for a newbie. Mocha2007 (talk) 22:56, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * We already have:

And (see here):

I think for someone who expands article, making it to a featured class from a stub. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 09:47, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, the list is long. Is it possible we could group these? Mocha2007 (talk) 03:33, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk Page Barnstar
How about a talk page barnstar who makes significant improvements to talk pages by adding different wikiproject templates to them. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 04:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Major overhaul of WP:RIBBON
So I like displaying ribbons instead of barnstars and I find the current layout of the page to be a royal pain when I'm trying to figure out what ribbon goes with what barnstar. To try and make it more user-friendly I was thinking of going through and reorganizing the page into something like the table below. Questions/comments/concerns? VernoWhitney (talk) 14:37, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I was on my way here to make a similar post... Please do it!! Skibden (talk) 22:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I am working on uploading the missing small ribbons, and then will edit the current small ribbons so they match the original ribbons.. Skibden (talk) 12:50, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Featured article
Is there any need for the brand new FA-Barnstar when there's already Featured Article Medal? VernoWhitney (talk) 15:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes and no.. The medal is for making 3 or more into FA.. The barnstar is just for general contributions to FA Skibden (talk) 16:00, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Irish Barnstar of Merit
I wish to nominate for inclusion the following Barnstar:

✅ I have added it for you. – S Masters (talk) 06:40, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Improvement Award?
What is a good award to give to a user that after being blocked for attacks, has now gone out of his/her way to avoid attacks and makes? JDDJS (talk) 03:32, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * There's The Resilient Barnstar for "any editor who learns and improves from criticisms, never lets mistakes or blunders impede their growth as Wikipedians, or has the ability to recover/finish with a smile." VernoWhitney (talk) 04:09, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Pink Floyd Barnstar
I'd like to suggest a Barnstar for those who have helped improve Pink Floyd-related articles through WikiProject Pink Floyd. I have two ideas for what this might look like:


 * This could be a fine Pink Floyd project award. I prefer the second, pink one, to the first.  The rainbow effect recurs in the Special Barnstar and the LBGT Barnstar. Both images are very nicely drawn. <font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  19:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I too prefer the second one due to its pink shade. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 04:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Err, the clear take off from Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon for the first is (and can only be) the right Pink Floyd barnstar ... well, unless you want one related to The Wall instead? Perhaps a Pig on the Wing?  The barnstar and the prismatic effect is excellent.  ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 17:35, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Archive discussion
Can we archive the discussion about using numbers on the project page (at the bottom)? It looks completely out of place there. – S Masters (talk) 06:17, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ VernoWhitney (talk) 12:30, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

ooo pretty
Just dropping by to say the project page looks amazing. Well done to who ever designed it. <font color="#7A60F8">Gaia Octavia Agrippa <font color="#C560F8">Talk |<font color="#6093F8">Sign 19:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Archive discussion
Can we archive the discussion about using numbers on the project page (at the bottom)? It looks completely out of place there. – S Masters (talk) 06:17, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ VernoWhitney (talk) 12:30, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

ooo pretty
Just dropping by to say the project page looks amazing. Well done to who ever designed it. <font color="#7A60F8">Gaia Octavia Agrippa <font color="#C560F8">Talk |<font color="#6093F8">Sign 19:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Bot operator's barnstars
I made three barnstars for bot operators, one general one and two for citation/reference and anti-vandalism work respectively.

I consider these more of a PUAs and the specific ones probably only used a couple of times. The general one, however, could be introduces along the main list? The only other relevant awards I know are Template:The da Vinci Barnstar, File:Motor oil.jpg and Template:The Bot Builder Award.— HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:30, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The final 2 may be too specific ... after all, which category does User:7SeriesBOT get? :-P  ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 17:33, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the specific one's are for specific bots, I did not expect to categorize all bots. Just stressing out the more important tasks. It's not too hard to make new ones. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:22, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I only think there should be the one bot operator barnstar. I fear that the MASSIVE amount of barnstars that some people are creating will inflate the value of the barnstars, so I only think there should be one.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skibden (talk • contribs) 20:44, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * As I said, I'm only proposing the generic one for the main list. As far as deflating (i think you meant "reducing" value) the barnstar value, a more personalized, unique barnstar is in my opinion more "valuable" than generic ones. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 00:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I still believe that the general value of the barnstars will decline if there is 100000000 barnstars in existence, compared to 100.. It's sort of the same thing that has happened in the US military, where you get a medal just for completing your basic training.. Skibden (talk) 10:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * More barnstars and giving more barnstars are two different things. I don't mean or propose to give out these to more people. It does not matter if there is 10000000 or 100 barnstars, if only 2000 people get them in any case. For example, instead of giving 5 regular ones, I give 2 citation, 2 anti-vandalism, and one generic one. More barnstars does not mean more recipients; that was never my intention. The only argument one could have is that more barnstars means hurried and sloppier designs, but I am pretty sure the ones above are better than some on the main list. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:17, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Above and Beyond Barnstar
There are a few barnstars which are awarded which do come close to the "Above and Beyond" barnstar, but I don't think there is one which quite award a user who goes the extra mile to help out another user.

I changed the color of the original barnstar and added an infinity symbol to the center symbolizing the user who when asked to help a little, goes to great lengths to help another user. VictorianMutant (talk) 06:40, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Purple? Color of kings.  Purple derived at vast expense from a rare mollosc lined the togas of Roman aristocrats.  Also purple is the official color of Kenyon College.  Something to do with their Episcopalian origins. I like purple, and prefer it in this barnstar to the Tao barnstar--but I'm not sure about the infinity symbol. Looks like a bandit's mask. As much as I like the concept of "going the extra mile," is an infinity symbol the right token for a non-mathematical barnstar? I wonder if the creative minds out there can think of other ways to express "going the extra mile?"  <font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  19:56, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * IMHO a barnstar for those who go above and beyond should also be that.. Above and beyond.. A plain purple barnstar, to me, looks to simple and "boring", for such a fancy title. I think it should be much more extravagant. Skibden (talk) 20:50, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Problem is, I'm not very good with drawing tools. It would not hurt y feelings if someone were to radically change the design at all...VictorianMutant (talk) 21:30, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Your better than me.. All I have is paint.. ;-) Skibden (talk) 10:50, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar for WP:FOUR Award
I have recently created a ribbon for the WP:FOUR Award (at left). Following a request at Wikipedia talk:Four Award I created a second ribbon for recipients of 10 Four Awards (at right), and am considering a 25 Award ribbon. In the request at WT:FOUR, TonyTheTiger noted that there is this FOUR but no formal barnstar. I was wondering if someone here could help out on developing an appropriate barnstar; I've never made one before, and my template-writing experience is thin. Regards, EdChem (talk) 01:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Book award
We need a Book award for all those that are making books for topics.Moxy (talk) 03:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Not completely sure about what you mean, but what about the The Literary Barnstar ? Skibden (talk) 20:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry i was unclear, what i meant was for those that make Books like Book:Canada.Moxy (talk) 18:54, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Pedagogy barnstar
The pedagogy barnstar would be awarded for taking existing content on Wikipedia and restructuring it to have higher pedagogical value, that is, helping it achieve comprehension in a greater number of user minds, or lowering the barrier to understanding. Not "dumbing stuff down" via deletion of detail, but rather conveying the same amount of information but more effectively. Kind of analogous to how the computer mouse and the GUI let people use the same kinds of apps as they'd already used, but more effectively and intuitively. This inevitably overlaps with usability or user interface design, but it could also just be via smart editing. It is "making Wikipedia's content easier to digest," and the common theme of the instances is pedagogical improvement. — ¾-10 22:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

The Editor's Barnstar Ribbon
Hi, I'd like some feedback on my version of The Editor's Barnstar's Textured Ribbon, since I've never made these things before. Here it is: File:EditorsBarnstarRibbon.png

Compare to User:VernoWhitney's ribbon for The Original Barnstar: File:Original Ribbon 2.png

Thanks. Guoguo12 <font color="blue" size="1">--Talk-- 14:16, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Personally, I'm a big fan of consistency (some even call me picky), so all of the ribbons I've created have been derived from existing ribbons so that the size and transparent borders and shadows and stripes match up. Given that, my feeling is rather "meh" (I have the same reaction to the option 2 service ribbons and EdChem's since they don't really match the existing ribbons).


 * My personal fussiness aside though, and since there's no ribbon there at the moment, I don't see anything wrong with going ahead and adding it to the table. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your quick reply. I have made a new ribbon using your ribbon for The Original Barnstar. Here it is: File:EditorsBarnstarRibbonB.png
 * Better? Guoguo12 <font color="blue" size="1">--Talk--  16:38, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


 * The second one fits in better with the other textured ribbons, so yeah, I like it better. ^_^ VernoWhitney (talk) 17:10, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'll add it to the list. :) Guoguo12 <font color="blue" size="1">--Talk--  21:40, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Help ceate a star for WikiProject Disability
I'm asking for help as I am worse than useless at graphic design - I don't have the tools either! I would like to have a barnstar for WikiProject Disability. My idea is to place the international disability access symbol (File:Handicapped_Accessible_sign.svg) in the middle of a basic star. Is there anyone here who would like to volunteer to create it please? I hope is is ok to solicit such work here. Roger (talk) 15:53, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support the creation of this as a Topical Barnstar but I have to leave the artwork to others: I'm swamped right now.<font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley (talk &#9758;)  16:30, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅. Let me know if you'll need something else ;) Antonu (talk) 16:41, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Roger (talk) 17:05, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I hate to bother you again but I'm making a complete mess of creating a template for it. What I'd like is a "box" that has the image on the left then the title "WikiProject Disability Barnstar" in heading text and a brief message saying that it is "Awarded to [Username] on [Date] for hard work and excellence in contributing to the Project".
 * Thanks again for all your help. Roger (talk) 18:05, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅. Simply use . I'll be glad to help if you'll need something again :) Antonu (talk) 19:05, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent! You should have a barnstar for your barnstar work! Roger (talk) 19:43, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * :) Antonu (talk) 20:22, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

New Small Ribbons
I created five small ribbons to be added to the current list:

Adoption Ribbon

Barnstar Barnstar Ribbon

Current Events Ribbon

Life Ribbon

Wikismile Ribbon

Thanks! AmericanXplorer13 (talk) 02:51, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I've added them to the tables at Ribbons. VernoWhitney (talk) 03:34, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You may want to have a look at the reward board offer from NielsenGW relating to ribbons, s/he may consider your contribution barnstar-worthy. :)  EdChem (talk) 03:40, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Adding Barnstars to the Ribbon page
If there is a barnstar with no ribbon (Defender of the wiki barnstar), could I add it to the ribbon page myself if I attach a ribbon to it?

Is this okay or should I post it here and have someone here add it? AmericanXplorer13 (talk) 02:58, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Is it your own design? // Fi  nns  11:54, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Pink Floyd Barnstar
I'd like to suggest a Barnstar for those who have helped improve Pink Floyd-related articles through WikiProject Pink Floyd. I have two ideas for what this might look like:


 * This could be a fine Pink Floyd project award. I prefer the second, pink one, to the first.  The rainbow effect recurs in the Special Barnstar and the LBGT Barnstar. Both images are very nicely drawn. <font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  19:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I too prefer the second one due to its pink shade. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 04:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Err, the clear take off from Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon for the first is (and can only be) the right Pink Floyd barnstar ... well, unless you want one related to The Wall instead? Perhaps a Pig on the Wing?  The barnstar and the prismatic effect is excellent.  ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 17:35, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm thinking that most Pink Floyd fans would prefer a Dark Side of the Moon barnstar, and honestly I think I did a better job on that one. I'm personally a bigger fan of the Wall, so that's part of the reason I made the second one. I thought about one with the Pink Floyd pig on it, but couldn't figure out how to incorporate it aesthetically. Friginator (talk) 16:00, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * IMHO, if you wanted a Wall version, I would use the Wall background, and use the same "font" as the sticker usually affixed to the album cover, draw a Star, and write "Pink Floyd Barnstar" or something like that. That's my 2 cents. ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 11:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm confident that 90% of Floyd fans would prefer the "Dark Side of the Moon" version. No one who follows Floyd will be confused, and we won't care if anyone else is.  HuskyHuskie (talk) 08:29, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Barnstars based on time with Wikipedia
I know there are barnstars for time and edits on Wikipedia, but I also think there should be barnstars for users based solely on time with Wikipedia. For instance, I've been with Wikipedia for more than four years, but I've only made around 170 edits. I think users like me should get an award based on our time.

For instance:

Barnstar 1... 0-1 years

Barnstar 2... 1-2 years

Barnstar 3... 2-3 years

Barnstar 4... 3-4 years

Barnstar 5... 4-5 years

Barnstar 6... 5+ years

Thanks, AmericanXplorer13 (talk) 03:46, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think so, because there can be a number of cases where users would have made 4-5 edits (sometimes vandalism) in 4-5 years. I don't think they deserve so. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 04:05, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * AmericanXplorer13, at this time you have 191 edits in total in 4+ years. You are almost up to another Service Award.  What about your time at Wikipedia that isn't recognised by Service Awards do you feel is barnstar-wothy?  Barnstars and awards are generally about achievements or contributions, IMO.  EdChem (talk) 04:15, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Err, but Service Awards are time served PLUS number of edits, not either/or ... ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 11:24, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Extra, you make a valid point. This was just an idea for those members who don't really have many awards to show off. Ed, sorry, but I'm still working my way around I just now decided to get back involved with Wikipedia. I honestly thought that barnstars and service awards were the same thing.  Oops... Thanks, AmericanXplorer13 (talk) 04:35, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, AmericanXplorer13. There are some achievement awards that are awarded semi-automatically (for 25, 50, ... WP:DYK contributions, or the WP:FOUR award or the Triple Crown).  There are also some ribbons like these - for getting an article onto the main page at DYK, or to GA status, for example.  Some editors also like to take on tasks from the Reward Board, were fulfilling editing tasks can 'earn' barnstars and the like.  There is nothing wrong with looking to have contributions recognised, but unlike the time + edits formula of the Service Awards, all others (that I know of) are criterion-based or are like barnstars, recognition awarded by others at their discretion.  EdChem (talk) 05:09, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Wiki Lei Barnstar
Hi, I've just added this barnstar to the Personal user awards gallery page - I'm not sure if I'm supposed to get consensus first. Let me know if I do and I'll take it off and wait. Thank you. <font color="DarkGreen">teinesaVaii  (talk)  05:09, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Personal user awards don't need a consensus. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:19, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh good. Thanks for that! <font color="DarkGreen">teinesaVaii  (talk)  11:49, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there a Hawaii wikiproject that might be well-served by such an award? ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 11:51, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Barnstars based on time with Wikipedia
I know there are barnstars for time and edits on Wikipedia, but I also think there should be barnstars for users based solely on time with Wikipedia. For instance, I've been with Wikipedia for more than four years, but I've only made around 170 edits. I think users like me should get an award based on our time.

For instance:

Barnstar 1... 0-1 years

Barnstar 2... 1-2 years

Barnstar 3... 2-3 years

Barnstar 4... 3-4 years

Barnstar 5... 4-5 years

Barnstar 6... 5+ years

Thanks, AmericanXplorer13 (talk) 03:46, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think so, because there can be a number of cases where users would have made 4-5 edits (sometimes vandalism) in 4-5 years. I don't think they deserve so. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 04:05, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * AmericanXplorer13, at this time you have 191 edits in total in 4+ years. You are almost up to another Service Award.  What about your time at Wikipedia that isn't recognised by Service Awards do you feel is barnstar-wothy?  Barnstars and awards are generally about achievements or contributions, IMO.  EdChem (talk) 04:15, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Err, but Service Awards are time served PLUS number of edits, not either/or ... ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 11:24, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Extra, you make a valid point. This was just an idea for those members who don't really have many awards to show off. Ed, sorry, but I'm still working my way around I just now decided to get back involved with Wikipedia. I honestly thought that barnstars and service awards were the same thing.  Oops... Thanks, AmericanXplorer13 (talk) 04:35, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, AmericanXplorer13. There are some achievement awards that are awarded semi-automatically (for 25, 50, ... WP:DYK contributions, or the WP:FOUR award or the Triple Crown).  There are also some ribbons like these - for getting an article onto the main page at DYK, or to GA status, for example.  Some editors also like to take on tasks from the Reward Board, were fulfilling editing tasks can 'earn' barnstars and the like.  There is nothing wrong with looking to have contributions recognised, but unlike the time + edits formula of the Service Awards, all others (that I know of) are criterion-based or are like barnstars, recognition awarded by others at their discretion.  EdChem (talk) 05:09, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Wiki Lei Barnstar
Hi, I've just added this barnstar to the Personal user awards gallery page - I'm not sure if I'm supposed to get consensus first. Let me know if I do and I'll take it off and wait. Thank you. <font color="DarkGreen">teinesaVaii  (talk)  05:09, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Personal user awards don't need a consensus. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:19, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh good. Thanks for that! <font color="DarkGreen">teinesaVaii  (talk)  11:49, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there a Hawaii wikiproject that might be well-served by such an award? ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 11:51, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Barnstars 2.0 need help
Please help me improve description (the entry) and templates for those pages: Antonu (talk) 15:39, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Barnstars 2.0
 * Barnstar of National Merit 2.0
 * Awards by WikiProject 2.0
 * WOW! I'll help :) <font color="navy" face="Edwardian Script ITC">« CA »   Talk 19:56, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar proposal
I have just conceived and iota of an idea for a new barnstar; an award for cleaning up criticism on criticism sections of articles, or articles about it, like Criticism of Google, for example. —Preceding signed comment added by Nicky Nouse (talk • contribs • wikia) 09:00, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

The Barnstar of Liberty Upgrade
Greetings colleagues! I propose to change old WP:HUMAN RIGHTS barnstar on new shining 2.0 star. What do you think about that idea?
 * Pictogram voting support.svg Upgrade. New looks more like freedom symbol. Antonu (talk) 08:10, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting support.svg Upgrade. Generally just like the new design better, gives it a more positive look. // Fi  nns  18:52, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sure I'm biased, but I prefer the Liberty Bell reference of the old one. VernoWhitney (talk) 16:05, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Upgrade as Alt 2.0 -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 16:06, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * There could always be two of them? and then maybe users can decide between the two? // Fi  nns  16:08, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Upgrade as alt per consensus in main 2.0 discussion. ~  Nerdy <font color="#0F0">Science <font color="#8d7">Dude  03:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Strongly Oppose this proposed change. This is NOT an upgrade, this is abandonment of one of the cleverest barnstars in the pantheon, with its inclusion of the Liberty Bell imagery.  Don't change it! HuskyHuskie (talk) 08:27, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose ^^Same reason as HuskyHuskie^^ --RichardOwen97 (talk) 15:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - I agree with HuskyHuskie, this is in no way an upgrade. You're dropping an existing and very impressive Barnstar for a bizarre new design.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 16:14, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose per HuskyHuskie. &mdash;chaos5023 (talk) 16:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Similar looking barnstars
These two barnstars are very similar:

The What a Brilliant Idea! Barnstar

the Technology barnstar

I suggest the technology one should be replaced with another picture depicting a range of tech stuff or the idea one to be replaced with a thinking bubble with a exclamation mark (!). --RichardOwen97 (talk) 14:41, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Brilliant Idea one was recently replaced. I have no issue with replacing Technology with something more "technological". — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:04, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Replaced with what? --RichardOwen97 (talk) 15:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * If you look at File:%22What_a_Brilliant_Idea!%22_Barnstar.png you can see both the current version and the older one it replaced. The older one was not as nice but was along similar lines to the current image.  EdChem (talk) 15:16, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Here is an idea for the technology barnstar with the binary code. I know I'm not good at it, just an idea that popped into mind. --RichardOwen97 (talk) 15:59, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Or with a oven a in the middle or any other technological tools. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 02:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposal
Itself can elimination of barnstars on WP:RIB? IMHO is useless. « CA » (talk) 16:30, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Religion Barnstar
There are so many religions out there, and there have only been a selection that are barnstars. It would be silly to create a barnstar for each and every one of them, so why not have a religion barnstar for them all? Also, some people may not just work on a single religion, so getting a barnstar for each religion would clog up his/her page. -- Richard  Talk  Contribs  16:52, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

I found this by Tinette on the italian wikipedia:



WikiProject Pink Floyd Barnstar
I'd like to suggest a Barnstar for those who have helped improve Pink Floyd-related articles through WikiProject Pink Floyd. I have two ideas for what this might look like:


 * This could be a fine Pink Floyd project award. I prefer the second, pink one, to the first.  The rainbow effect recurs in the Special Barnstar and the LBGT Barnstar. Both images are very nicely drawn. <font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  19:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I too prefer the second one due to its pink shade. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 04:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Err, the clear take off from Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon for the first is (and can only be) the right Pink Floyd barnstar ... well, unless you want one related to The Wall instead? Perhaps a Pig on the Wing?  The barnstar and the prismatic effect is excellent.  ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 17:35, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm thinking that most Pink Floyd fans would prefer a Dark Side of the Moon barnstar, and honestly I think I did a better job on that one. I'm personally a bigger fan of the Wall, so that's part of the reason I made the second one. I thought about one with the Pink Floyd pig on it, but couldn't figure out how to incorporate it aesthetically. Friginator (talk) 16:00, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * IMHO, if you wanted a Wall version, I would use the Wall background, and use the same "font" as the sticker usually affixed to the album cover, draw a Star, and write "Pink Floyd Barnstar" or something like that. That's my 2 cents. ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 11:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm confident that 90% of Floyd fans would prefer the "Dark Side of the Moon" version. No one who follows Floyd will be confused, and we won't care if anyone else is.  HuskyHuskie (talk) 08:29, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * So should I add it? And just to nbe sure, I'll make another Wall-based one, like Bwilkins suggested. Friginator (talk) 18:48, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I would say yeah, add the Dark Side of the Moon one. --Kingpin13 (talk) 18:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've tried it, and it just wouldn't work on that small of a space. I could do it without the star, but that would be pointless. So should I add the "Dark Side of the Moon" version? Friginator (talk) 20:56, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didn't see your comment. I'll add it now. Friginator (talk) 21:00, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Greeting cards
I've posted a Happy Holidays card as a Personal User Award, since that seems the only appropriate place for what amounts to Santa's congratulations for being nice and not naughty. I think we should create a separate Greeting Card page though. A card is a different kind of pat on the back than an award. Thoughts? <font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley (talk &#9758;)  15:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Idea - a more prestigious, even award
Barnstars are nice, and I do not propose abolishing them. But I do think it would be nice to introduce a new type of award that overcomes the issues I am about to describe.

The problem with barnstars is that anyone can award them to anyone. And likewise, anyone can fail to award them to anyone. An editor who does something of minor importance that is liked by one person can get a barnstar. And an editor can make many major valuable contributions and get zero recognition from others.

I do not believe people award of fail to award them in bad faith. It's just that not everyone knows about them or is active in looking out for those who deserve them. And since there is no guideline other than anyone to anyone, people have varying ideas of who is deserving of one.

Here is my idea to solve that problem: To create a new award that is handed out by consensus.

The new award would work as follows: An editor would be nominated for an award, either by another editor, or by oneself. The nomination would go to a discussion, similar to other types of discussions that are held on Wikipedia. Other editors would comment with either "support", "oppose," or other similar headings, along with an explanation of why the nominated editor should or should not receive the award. After several days, the discussion would be concluded with the editor either being awarded or not awarded.

Some examples of what awards could be offered for include but are not limited to creation of one or more articles, improvements to existing article(s), finding sources for uncited information, organizing information, de-orphaning article(s), rescuing article(s) from deletion, performing tedious edits, fighting vandalism, resolving disputes peacefully, or anything miscellaneous.

I have not come up with a name for such an award yet. I am first trying to see if anyone likes my idea. Sebwite (talk) 00:49, 13 December 2010 (UTC)


 * It's a really great idea but I think it could not be handled because extremely high traffic of barnstar. The page would too tall so no one will comment. Otherwise I support. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 02:16, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Agree with Extra999. Perhaps a coin and call it My two cents as it is an opinion of someones work. Or a horseshoe, as in barnstar to barn, horseshoe to door. Just a few ideas that popped into mind.<small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  20:03, 13 December 2010 (UTC)


 * An award by consensus at the top of the pecking order demotes barnstars to the status of personal user awards. And pushes down personal user awards down to . . . what's lower than a personal user award?  An unexpressed grunt of satisfaction?  It runs contrary to Jimbo Wales's (very naive) Wikipedia egalitarian ethos. He thought, for example, that Administrators should have  no special status. Ha! Tell that to one who just got elected, with high-fives and thumps on his  back, and then conferral of special Wiki-powers.  Power is a goodie even in our tiny wiki-world,  power even in teensy tiny increments.  So are prizes. Honors, titles, post-nomials, medals worn on the out-thrust chest. So lets say we have a special consensus award, a  knighthood or whatever you want to call it.  Soon there develops a panache, a camaraderie among knights.  Only people awarded a knighthood can have a special symbol after their nick: &#9816;  Then the other power-goodies, like being a Reviewer or an Administrator, depend on knighthoods. "Why wasn't this guys ever dubbed a knight?" will ask the voters for Arbitrator Elections. The elite takes over, the poor downtrodden outsiders are more and more marginalized, ignored.  Eventually the Great Unwashed, the Hoi Polloi with no honors to defend, no stake in the status quo, nothing to lose-- start muttering among themselves, start exchanging covert angry glances, soon there are secret meetings, underground publications . . . oh wait I sound like I am against this thing.  I SUPPORT it.  I wanna be in the elite. I want shining medals and gorgeous ribbons, pats on the back by people who matter.  And I want everybody else who doesn't matter to be envious. They aren't in our club.  Or if not, if I am among the excluded, the downtrodden, if nobody gives me a knighthood, then at least I can join the bomb-thowing revolutionaries. What fun! <font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  20:14, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * If people want bling that they can nominate themselves for, take a look at the good article and featured article processes. There's no need for some bureaucratic proposal around a community given barnstar - bring an article up to FA standard and take it to FAC.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  00:44, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Just so everyone can have an idea of what it would be like, I provided the details of my proposal here. I would still prefer for the discussion to remain in its current location. Sebwite (talk) 00:33, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * You should have a more tight criteria, with this one, at least a hundred requests will come. Well if you have the tight criteria, one can give without consensus. Take a look at: Four Award -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 04:24, 24 December 2010 (UTC)


 * What I wrote on that page is not in stone. I welcome anyone to edit it in good faith or to further discuss it as they desire. Changes can be made. Sebwite (talk) 18:10, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Portal barnstar
I spend most of my time in userspace and mainspace, so I'm very confused about this. I created a "Portal Barnstar" which was removed by an editor here who used a cryptic edit summary. When I noticed the deletion, I tried to discuss it with the user, but found out that they are blocked indefinitely, so I reverted the deletion. I eventually tracked down Barnstars_2.0 and discovered that there is an entry for "Portal Barnstar", but it uses my barnstar image credited as having been thought up and created by third parties. The page itself only dates from November, but the false credit under my barnstar says that the barnstar was created in June. I just honestly don't know what happened here, but it looks like a tangle of several errors.

TL;DR:
 * 1) The file File:Portal Barnstar Hires.png was created by me in August 2010. I put it on the page Barnstars.
 * 2) The page Barnstars_2.0 was created in November. It used the above image (the one I created) and claimed that a third party created the image in June 2010.
 * 3) User:« CA » deleted my barnstar from Barnstars, claiming (I think) that it was redundant, but was indefinitely blocked before I could ask what happened.

&mdash;Bill Price (nyb) 17:44, 18 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Bill/Notyour broom. No idea what happened, but part of the problem may be #1 above: before posting a new barnstar a first draft on this page and seeking consensus on the need for a new barnstar and its design, has become the norm (as opposed to a Personal User Award which you can just create willy-nilly). Still, in recognition of your efforts I am sending you a Christmas card. <font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  21:14, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I fixed the misattribution issue on the Barnstars 2.0 page, and also (more than a week ago) restored the barnstar to the main Barnstars page. I realize now that I didn't follow the proper procedure in proposing it on this page or getting it cleared by consensus to put up. I see, however, that it's being used as the graphic for "A WikiProject's award" on the main WikiProject Wikipedia Awards page, which I hope is some indication that the image has been accepted as "good enough". &mdash;Bill Price (nyb) 08:38, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Fate of the Portal Barnstar
Because I didn't follow the correct procedure originally, I want to put the Portal Barnstar up for discussion. I've included one above this message for reference. Is this an acceptable barnstar for Barnstars? To be honest, I was very surprised that such a barnstar didn't already exist, given that portals are one of the major page categories and are relevant to virtually every article on Wikipedia. &mdash;Bill Price (nyb) 08:38, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Userbox Barnstar
There are many people involved in making userboxes and probably every user has them, so why not give them some credit for brightening up our userpages? <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  15:37, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I would personally argue that userboxes have nothing to do with improving the encyclopaedia. In any case, there's User Barnstar, may be you can adapt it. But I don't know of any more specific award. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:43, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * User barnstar will serve the purpose -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 01:50, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting support.svg Added<small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  22:18, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you show us the image so we comment more? -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 04:25, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I reverted the addition, as this discussion had not arrived at a consensus that a non-standard barnstar like that should be added to this list. The comments were suggesting an award you could use, not proposing to add it to the list. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:53, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * There is already a userspace-related barnstar if I remember correctly, so a UBX barnstar may not be that helpful...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 11:40, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Christmas barnstar
I have created this barnstar specially designed as a gift for some colleagues at Christmas. Would it be doable here? − Jhenderson  7 7 7  18:39, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * That's a PUA, really. Barnstars are not gifts, but awards. One should give a barnstar when one thinks the editor deserves it for an encyclopaedia-improving contribution. Your idea is rather a personal congratulation formatted as a barnstar. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:50, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh I did gave them a award because I thought they deserve it! I wouldn't have done it any other way! Whether it was for kindness or good contributions on Wikipedia, I gave it to them becuase I noticed they have been a good contributor this year and I still think this barnstar is good for that. And barnstars are not gifts but they make decent gifts for Christmas. ;) − Jhenderson  7 7 7  20:04, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

The Bureaucrat's Barnstar
We have an Administrator's Barnstar, so why not a Bureaucrat's Barnstar? They help us too! I'm not good at creating barnstars, so maybe someone can super-impose the bureaucrat image on the original barnstar as the Administator's Barnstar is? <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  16:53, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

⇨
 * ✅ Bureaucrat Barnstar Hires.png. Antonu (talk) 18:35, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I have created a ribbon to go with this new barnstar. EdChem (talk) 01:23, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I have opposed before, and I'm afraid I must oppose again. Having a 'crats' barnstar is like having a CU barnstar or oversight barnstar. 'Crats do not have as many 'extra abilities' as admins, and there's not too many 'crats, so if you want to thank a 'crat for their 'crat actions you should give the admin's barnstar.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 07:04, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * But, suppose you wanted to acknowledge a bureaucrat who had handled a challenging RfA or RfB close in a way that received broad support and diffused a contentious situation... an Admin barnstar would hardly be appropriate for a purely 'crat function. That a barnstar may be used comparatively rarely is not a good reason for opposing its creation, in my opinion.  Also, most oersight and CU functions by necessity have a degree of secrecy involved and are generally not purely public actions as amenable to recognition from outsiders.  EdChem (talk) 10:37, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * A long time before (back in 2009), Unschool made a comment here about the frequency of use of a barnstar affecting the practicality of its implementation. I can't find it from the archives though...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 11:13, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you mean Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards/Archive 11? — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:19, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * There was a time when he was very precise about it.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 11:39, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Highest possible award
Although has nothing to do with a new idea or some sort, but what is the highest possible wikipedia award to recieve?--GoldenGlory84 (talk) 17:01, 8 January 2011 (UTC)


 * That's probably very subjective. There is no actual requirement to receive anything, it is at awarder's discretion. I don't think there has ever been any agreement on what is considered the top awards. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:14, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The highest possible award is the satisfaction of a job well done. Nobody else can give it to you.<font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley (talk &#9758;)  18:13, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * There aren't really levels of awards or anything like that, and just because one doesn't receive an award doesn't mean one hasn't done anything worthy of recognition. Personally, I agree with ElijahBosley, the best award is knowing that I've done something worth being proud of. --- cymru.lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 19:24, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

I guess I could agree on that.--GoldenGlory84 (talk) 02:02, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

TfD barnstar (I suppose RfD and MfD, too)
I was just looking through Category:Barnstar award templates and the various barnstar lists looking for a barnstar for someone who works at TfD, finding templates that don't fit the scope of Wikipedia as well as giving their input in discussions. There's one such barnstar for AfD, but none for the other XfD processes. Since I don't have a photo editor and don't really have experience designing barnstars, I'm just gonna go ahead and propose it here... --- cymru.lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 19:49, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * What about a general XfD barnstar? I have little experience in XfDs other than MfD so please don't take my suggestion too seriously.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 01:11, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that's a good idea --- cymru.lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 08:47, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Image
Anybody have any thoughts as to how I could incorporate this photograph into a barnstar or award?Smallman12q (talk) 22:46, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If you mean the exploding turkey, that's supposed to be positive how? Besides gutting really bad articles of WP:OR. CarolMooreDC (talk) 16:05, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Request for Nursing Barnstar
I was wondering if someone could create a Barnstar for Nursing using the file Nursing symbol.svg. The color scheme of our portal can be seen at. jsfouche &#9789;&#9790; Talk 05:56, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

The World War Barnstar
I very much regret that the most visible flag of the country, which made for less than all the victories. At the same time a symbol of the country, has put tremendous efforts to achieve victory over fascism, modestly drawn in the corner of the image ... But how many have shed their blood and Russian, and other peoples of the USSR ... We need only recall the legendary battle of Stalingrad, when a group of people whom the world thought vanquished fought for incineration ruins. They fought a life and death. They did not care at that time the Nazis in Berlin celebrated the victory over the Russian, the defenders of Stalingrad absolutely did not care and that Hitler considered them only as a temporary problem. They are there in Stalingrad, destroying the troops Nazis, who outnumbered the number of Russian dozens of times! But the Russian fought for the Motherland. And the Russian won! The whole world could not believe it ... And then our troops have liberated their country first, and then liberated Eastern Europe. After that, the Russian army captured Berlin. At that time, our troops seized the capital of the country that had recently terrorized us, Hitler shot himself in the bunker. How much suffering was inflicted on our already-suffering people, how much suffering borne and other peoples of the USSR ... This is one of the most horrible things in the history of Russia. But soon Russia will celebrate the anniversary - 1200 years since the founding of our country ... Almost every family in our country have been killed in the war. I also have relatives who perished ... And what did for the U.S. victory? I write all this not to cause your pity. I am writing this and not to offend the American people. I write all this just to make you understand: it's not even an insult - it's a shame when other people forget these things. Very sorry, when the country has made so little for the victory over fascism, attributes her victory, for which my forefathers shed their blood so much ... I beg your pardon for incorrectly spelling suggestions - I do not know much English, and therefore forced to use inernet translator. But most importantly, I hope you understand ... --92.124.7.51 (talk) 14:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Transport Barnstar
Maybe their could be an award for creating and updating lots of pages to do with transport and letting the world know how to get around through wikipedia?

--RCSprinter123 (talk) 18:01, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


 * If automoblie, maybe:

message ~ -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 12:02, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Portal barnstar revisited

 * Below is de-archived from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Wikipedia_Awards/Archive_17.

I spend most of my time in userspace and mainspace, so I'm very confused about this. I created a "Portal Barnstar" which was removed by an editor here who used a cryptic edit summary. When I noticed the deletion, I tried to discuss it with the user, but found out that they are blocked indefinitely, so I reverted the deletion. I eventually tracked down Barnstars_2.0 and discovered that there is an entry for "Portal Barnstar", but it uses my barnstar image credited as having been thought up and created by third parties. The page itself only dates from November, but the false credit under my barnstar says that the barnstar was created in June. I just honestly don't know what happened here, but it looks like a tangle of several errors.

TL;DR:
 * 1) The file File:Portal Barnstar Hires.png was created by me in August 2010. I put it on the page Barnstars.
 * 2) The page Barnstars_2.0 was created in November. It used the above image (the one I created) and claimed that a third party created the image in June 2010.
 * 3) User:« CA » deleted my barnstar from Barnstars, claiming (I think) that it was redundant, but was indefinitely blocked before I could ask what happened.

&mdash;Bill Price (nyb) 17:44, 18 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Bill/Notyour broom. No idea what happened, but part of the problem may be #1 above: before posting a new barnstar a first draft on this page and seeking consensus on the need for a new barnstar and its design, has become the norm (as opposed to a Personal User Award which you can just create willy-nilly). Still, in recognition of your efforts I am sending you a Christmas card. <font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  21:14, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I fixed the misattribution issue on the Barnstars 2.0 page, and also (more than a week ago) restored the barnstar to the main Barnstars page. I realize now that I didn't follow the proper procedure in proposing it on this page or getting it cleared by consensus to put up. I see, however, that it's being used as the graphic for "A WikiProject's award" on the main WikiProject Wikipedia Awards page, which I hope is some indication that the image has been accepted as "good enough". &mdash;Bill Price (nyb) 08:38, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Fate of the Portal Barnstar
Because I didn't follow the correct procedure originally, I want to put the Portal Barnstar up for discussion. I've included one above this message for reference. Is this an acceptable barnstar for Barnstars? To be honest, I was very surprised that such a barnstar didn't already exist, given that portals are one of the major page categories and are relevant to virtually every article on Wikipedia. &mdash;Bill Price (nyb) 08:38, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Above is de-archived from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Wikipedia_Awards/Archive_17.


 * Support as 2.0 barnstar. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 09:27, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Support Vey nice, but I feel the portal logo should be a little smaller (and as 2.0 of course). -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 11:49, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject R&B and Soul Music
<font color=#400000>E <font color=#590000>d <font color=#660000>u <font color=#800000>e <font color=#990000>m <font color=#bf0000>o n  i ↑ talk ↓ 23:15, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak oppose. I think this is redundant to "The Music Barnstar". It is also too specific. This page is for broader topic barnstars, where there would be many awardees. This looks like a topical/project specific barnstar, so Awards by WikiProject, perhaps? — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 14:00, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Nah, we can also discuss awards by wikiprojects here Hellknowz. It's PUAs that are none of our business.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:43, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I did not mean "not discuss here", I meant "discuss this as a possibility for Awards by WikiProject instead of main list". I know this is the same venue for both. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:31, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry Hellknowz. Can anyone inform me why the star is design like this? (I know nothing about music)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:04, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing the star is purple because the music barnstar is purple. I've no idea on the note's relevance to the R&B'n'Soul in particular. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 09:52, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You guessed it right, the star is purple because the music barnstar is purple, so I followed its design as a reference pattern. Regards -<font color=#400000>E <font color=#590000>d <font color=#660000>u <font color=#800000>e <font color=#990000>m <font color=#bf0000>o n  i ↑ talk ↓ 03:41, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * What about the black note?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:45, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The black note is used all over the Wiki project, on its portal, way before I joined and created the barnstar. <font color=#400000>E <font color=#590000>d <font color=#660000>u <font color=#800000>e <font color=#990000>m <font color=#bf0000>o n  i ↑ talk ↓ 14:48, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak oppose Per Hellknowz, the barnstar is good but very much similar to the music barnstar. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 11:45, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Gender studies barnster deleted?
The graphic and description is still on the page but it comes up a redlink which says it was deleted. Anyone know why before I ask the admin to put it back up? I've also reported it at the project page. CarolMooreDC (talk) 13:38, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: I see this is also the talk page for Awards by WikiProject - which I see is a redirect. Very confusing. CarolMooreDC (talk) 13:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Image undeleted. Thanks. CarolMooreDC (talk) 16:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguator's Barnstar
Template:Disambiguator's Barnstar doesn't seem to be working correctly. I copied the code off WP:Barnstars, and added my custom message, but the custom message didn't appear on the editor's talk page.

Does anyone know what's wrong with this template? WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:19, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Use the code listed in the documentation instead. It should work. ;-)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

New barnstar
I've created a new barnstar. i.e. Good faith barnstar. The barnstar is for editors that show assume perfect good faith to other editors. -Porchcrop (talk 08:30, 12 March 2011 (UTC) (Modified -Porchcrop (talk 19:33, 12 March 2011 (UTC))
 * Oppose - showing good faith and assuming it are totally different.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:22, 12 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose - it seems assuming good faith is also part of civility. so i think the civility barnstar serves best. i dont think there should be a barnstar simply for assuming and/or showing good faith.Bread Ninja (talk) 09:37, 12 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose on the grounds of design mainly (yellow/white edges and no retention of barnstar look). Additionally, this is redundant to Civility barnstar. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:18, 12 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose (Even not in the grounds of opposition of the civility barnstar, for which I agree partially) The barnstar is too redundant, like a skeleton design and no barnstar. Per Hellknowz too -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 10:56, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

The barnstar is for editors that assume good faith, not show. -Porchcrop (talk 19:33, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Every editor should assume good faith unless there is a reason not to. It's not really an achievement. Remaining civil among less than civil editors is what counts and that's what CivilityAward is for. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 21:06, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I'm still opposing, per BN and Hellknowz.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:03, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It appears to be that the consensus is to oppose the barnstar. So I tagged the award and the barnstar for deletion. -Porchcrop (talk 06:29, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Acknowledge Ranbirk With Two Barnstars
I wanna ask to award two barnstars to Ranbirk because of his work done on articles like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon,Kaminey etc. He added new section ===Awards== in the article Kaminey and had done a great job.so,i request him to award him The Special Barnstar. He had also added starcast information(which was empty) to Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.so,i reuest him to award The Motivation Barnstar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wallvelvet (talk • contribs) 16:15, March 12, 2011 UTC


 * Feel free to award the user whatever award you feel they deserve. Awarding a barnstar does not require other editor agreement. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:21, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Featured barnstar revisited

 * Below de-archived from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Wikipedia_Awards/Archive_3.

There should be a barnstar for users whose contribution lead to that article becoming a featured article. 142.35.144.2 00:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Everyone saying there is such an award has redlinks to that award, suggesting it has either been deleted or does not exist.


 * Below de-archived from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Wikipedia_Awards/Archive_17.

Is there any need for the brand new FA-Barnstar when there's already Featured Article Medal? VernoWhitney (talk) 15:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes and no.. The medal is for making 3 or more into FA.. The barnstar is just for general contributions to FA Skibden (talk) 16:00, 7 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Below de-archived from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Wikipedia_Awards/Archive_17.

Don't you think that the Template:FA-Barnstar should be replaced to The Featured Content Barnstar. And why is the The WikiProject Slipknot Barnstar in the Topical Barnstars section, it should be in here. And Template:Robotics Barnstar should have an image related to barnstars and the gears both. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 12:30, 1 September 2010 (UTC)-- Extra    999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 12:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Below de-archived from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Wikipedia_Awards/Archive_16.

Can anyone create a barnstar for WP:VPC. --Extra 999 (Contact me +  contribs) 12:12, 3 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Maye a barnstar with the flag Valued pics 2.svg and the original barnstar hanging down, like the BoNMs. --Extra 999 (Contact me +  contribs) 17:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Do we really need one? Because if we do, then we might be making one for FT, GT, FL, FP, etc.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:19, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe combined for FP and VP, GA and FA, FL and FT. --Extra 999 (Contact me +  contribs) 05:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * FL and FT? you must be kidding! :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:37, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Not really, they exist and they need one. --Extra 999 (Contact me +  contribs) 06:49, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Kayau meant combining FL and FT, those are quite different. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 07:13, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I knew that, but they are not so common so we don't need them until and unless a request comes up. Anyone create those two please. --Extra 999 (Contact me +  contribs) 07:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

VPC is closed, so there's no barnstar then.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:07, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * GA and FA. --Extra  9  9  9  (Contact me  +  contribs) 11:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC)


 * GA and FA - like DYK and ITN, both have their own methods and manner of notification and "awards". They get to display stars, there's userboxes, etc.  Unless you're proposing a Barnstar for "reaching 100 FA's" or something huge, then it's a mere duplicaton of the recognition already provided. ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 11:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay --Extra  9  9  9  (Contact me  +  contribs) 11:38, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note:VPC has been reopened but is in the mild of controversies. --Extra  9  9  9  (Contact me  +  contribs) 10:55, 18 August 2010 (UTC)


 * End of de-archived discussions.

Current candidate:
 * Oppose on grounds of not keeping with the original rough look of the barnstars. Support as 2.0 though. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 09:47, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose either way. It's confusing; what about replacing the middle/outer star with a barnstar, one for old and one for 2.0?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:52, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose Per above, it is the original image and no barnstar. -- Extra   999  (Contact me  +  contribs) 11:47, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment it would be great if they used the featured article star as the general barnstar. the current one i dont like for various reasons.Bread Ninja (talk) 20:16, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * We already have two choices (original and 2.0) for barnstars, FYI.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:31, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * What did 2.0 look like, or is this 2.0? idk...a rusty star doesn't seem like much of a reward.Bread Ninja (talk) 18:04, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * A 2.0 barnstar is one based on Original Barnstar Hires.png. All the common barnstars have a 2.0 alternative and more are coming soon I think.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:26, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

another award idea
Fireman's award for repairing and protecting damaged and vandilized pages. Awardgive, ruler of every world in the sodaie way (talk) 23:00, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * We already have:

Park Barnstar
I think that there should be a barnstar for users who make contributes the protected parks. Just an idea, Awardgive, ruler of every world in the sodaie way (talk) 22:52, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Protected parts in particular? That does not sound like a very broad topic, perhaps just "parks" instead? — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 09:12, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me Awardgive, ruler of every world in the sodaie way (talk) 22:34, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

There's no WikiProject on parks, so something with an even wider scope would be better.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 16:40, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

The Indefinite Barnstar
I would like to create a barnstar by which we can recognize users whom we feel have been improperly hit with indefinite blocks for good editing. I think the major class of these is made up of COI editors who are improperly treated. I've given it an invariant text (the first section) in the hope that it won't be diluted by those giving it out to people who simply weren't so bad, rather than those who are truly innocent. The variable section can then be used to cite evidence or argument.

Of course, like any barnstar, this is an individual decision that some may disagree with. Wnt (talk) 08:58, 25 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose. What achievement has the blocked person done that deserves recognition? There should not be a barnstar for incorrectly blocked editors because there should not be incorrect blocking. If someone is blocked for "good editing", then obviously the quality and purpose of their editing was subjective and disputed. They did something to prompt a block and this is not what barnstars are for. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 09:11, 25 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Their achievement is in putting up with unreasonable abuse and (one hopes) not giving up hope. Wnt (talk) 09:45, 25 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Strong oppose. Someone who's been indef blocked is usually blocked for a good reason. If the receiver is really blocked without sufficient grounds, he or she has accomplished nothing that merits a separate barnstar. The purpose of a barnstar is for recognition of good work, not compensation of unjust blocks. This barnstar is like abusing and spitting at the effigies of the Qins or burning the effigy of Guy Fawkes. The only thing such customs have done is unjust hatred.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:26, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * "This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished..." Wnt (talk) 06:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Impressive alliteration and really big words... but what does that mean? :-?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:11, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It's an excerpt from V for Vendetta; basically, he's saying the mask carries a deeper meaning, namely, the symbol of Guy Fawkes as people's voice, which is now gone. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:00, 26 March 2011 (UTC)


 * lol. I'm not opposing but I don't think this is such a good idea.. :) -- &oelig; &trade; 08:46, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I never been blocked, nor suffered an undeserved block, but I do understand if I were I'd feel aggrieved, and dog-like want to lick the wound until it feels better. But a Barnstar is not a salve for a bruised ego, nor can it rectify injustice. I think this proposed Barnstar more in the nature of a special-purpose Personal User Award. And I think also that there is a risk whoever did the blocking might well get even more vexed, and un-award it, and start piling on more condemnation and obloquy and blocking until the end of time. The remedy for undeserved blocking lies elsewhere, perhaps with arbitration?  <font color="DarkGreen">ElijahBosley  (talk &#9758;)  16:57, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

1st barnstar
I made it because I didn't see any barnstars like this. The writing in the middle is in Bengali representing K in English(when you say it). Can anyone please review my barnstar?-- Ankit Maity  Talk •  contribs 05:18, 1 April 2011 (UTC)


 * This is just a letter in a white circle on top of a blurry background star. If anything, this is too topic specific and WP:PUA — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 08:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

2nd barnstar
I based it on the Computer WikiProject logo. Please can anyone review this also? Ankit Maity  Talk •  contribs 05:48, 1 April 2011 (UTC)


 * The icon has aliased edges and its style does not match the base star. The base is also very blurry. We already have The Computing Star, although that's also not too good; but at least it had rough consensus. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 08:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)