Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards/Archive 25

Proposed design for "Recent Changes" Barnstar 2.0
I had an idea for a possible design for the "Recent Changes" Barnstar 2.0 (which is currently nonexistent): A barnstar with a similar layout to, say, the Curator Barnstar 2.0, but with the clock face replaced with a refresh icon (in reference to the "View new changes" refresh button on the Recent Changes page).

I then attempted to create a mock-up of what I envisioned the barnstar to look like. (Considering this was my first time using Photoshop for anything besides cropping/rotating photos, however, it didn't go well--especially since the refresh icon used on the Recent Changes page is a mere 20 pixels in width, and unfortunately real-life doesn't have a magical scale-up and "Enhance!" feature, so the refresh icon is ridiculously blurry) Nevertheless, this is vaguely what I would imagine the barnstar to look like (see right).

Is this design even worth pursuing, or would a different design be better? (For instance, I had a brief idea of having black/red/green colored lines in the background to vaguely resemble the Recent Changes page (as a nod to the design of the Recent Changes Barnstar 1.0), but based on the simplified look of the other 2.0 barnstars, I doubt that this would be a good idea.) Any and all advice is appreciated.

(Also, if someone with a bit more knowledge of graphic art design could retexture my mock-up so that the refresh arrow looks less blurry, that would be massively appreciated.) TheHardestAspect OfCreatingAnAccount IsAlwaysTheUsername  00:48, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I think this looks like a great design for the Recent Changes Barnstar 2.0. When I get a chance, I'll try to create a higher-resolution version of your barnstar as requested. Noah Kastin (talk) (🖋) 14:54, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Went back and improved my original design, so as to create this (see right).


 * (Specifically, I changed the center color to white, and replaced the hand-drawn arrow with a clipart icon I found on Wikimedia Commons, then hue-shifted it to match the original hex color (#33bbcc) as closely as possible.)


 * There are still a few problems (namely, the fact that there is a small gap between the grey border and and the rest of the barnstar, which I have no idea how to rectify), but overall, I'm relatively happy with the barnstar's current appearance. Any advice would still be appreciated, however.
 * TheHardestAspect OfCreatingAnAccount IsAlwaysTheUsername  20:19, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Duplicate template
There is a duplicate template of Template:Barnstar Barnstar, it's Template:The Barnstar Barnstar. Now Antonu was the one who created the duplicate, so I really don't like questioning his work. He must've had a reason, and I assume it's the title of the template. Most Barnstar templates contain "The" in the title. The majority of Barnstars that omit this are the recently added ones. I add "The" to my templates when it comes to Barnstars. Is there a format style for titling Barnstar templates? — JudeccaXIII (talk) 04:25, 9 September 2019 (UTC)


 * The difference between Antonu's template and the original is that the original has the option of being either a standard barnstar or a barnstar 2.0, while Antuno's is only a barnstar 2.0. Also of note is the fact that Antuno's template is labeled "The Barnstar Barnstar Barnstar".  Other than that, Antuno's template is an exact copy of the original.
 * It looks like Antuno didn't like the title of the original template and didn't know how to move it to the desired title. We may not know for a while as Antuno's last activity was in April, after a two-year absence. - ZLEA T\C 11:54, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

The Bahá'í Faith Barnstar
I've created the Bahá'í Faith Barnstar to cover anything related to the Bahá'í Faith. JudeccaXIII (talk) 02:59, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * If anyone asks, this was the best version I had out of the eight samples I'd made where the symbol and calligraphy don't completely conflict with each other.
 * I think it looks really good.★Trekker (talk) 13:08, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

The Socialist Barnstar
It's been sometime since I've made this Barnstar, but WP Socialism had already aproved it at the end of July. It covers socialism in general. I just forgot to inform this project. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 23:54, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * If I can ask, how will this proposed barnstar differ from The Workers' Barnstar? (Or have I merely misunderstood, where this is a replacement of one of the Workers' Barnstars?) -TheHardestAspect OfCreatingAnAccount IsAlwaysTheUsername  05:22, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * This doesnt have the hammer and sickle and focuses on socialism only. The workers barnstar covers communism as well. This isnt a proposal, WikiProject Socialism has both Barnstars as a option. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 11:13, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Well, I'm now proposing to remove the Workers Barnstar, A single Barnstar should not cover multiple topics such as socialism and communism. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 01:53, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * A single Barnstar should not cover multiple topics such as socialism and communism. I don't see why not, communism is a form of socialism. - ZLEA T\C 12:10, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Not exactly, I'm not going to go in detail but here's a link that kind-of summerizes it. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 12:39, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, socialism today is more about Liberal socialism. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 12:43, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

, because I like creating award ribbons (and I'm on a roll today)... would you like a Ribbon for this? Will (talk) 15:36, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Will Those look really nice, sure. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:20, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

The Atheist Barnstar
I've created a new design for the Atheist Barnstar via Template:The Atheist Barnstar to replace Template:Wp atheism barnstar. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 01:31, 10 September 2019 (UTC)


 * , beacuse I like creating award ribbons... would you like a Ribbon for this? Will (talk) 15:36, 10 September 2019 (UTC)


 * I think they're all very cute.★Trekker (talk) 15:43, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * ★Trekker Will I'm working on another version of the Barnstar right now. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:31, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * JudeccaXIII I'll hold this one back then and update it when you have the new star put up. Will (talk) 16:34, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Will My samples aren't coming out the way I wanted them to. I'm just going to stick with the Flying Spaghetti Monster. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 18:21, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * JudeccaXIII I've added the ribbons (and the communism ones) to the WP:RIBBONS list. I put that the FSM star is the Barnstar 2.0 for WP:ATHEISM, as they appear to still be using that aweful BoNM style pixelated mess. Will (talk) 19:04, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Will thanks. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Stub Barnstar
I made an alternative version for Template:The Stub Barnstar. Does anyone know how to put another Barnstar in the same template? I don't. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:10, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅, I've added your barnstar to the template. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 20:46, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> Thank you. - JudeccaXIII (talk) 20:57, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

The Reference Desk Barnstar
Made a alternative 2.0 version for Template:The Reference Desk Barnstar — JudeccaXIII (talk) 02:50, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I think it's very cute.★Trekker (talk) 15:16, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

What is version 2.0?
I see a barnstar of mine listed on the project page under "Barnstars needing a new 2.0 version". It would be helpful if the description text there included a link to the relevant guideline/discussion/etc. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 16:20, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * No, because you added your Barnstar without consensus, and no one noticed until me. The style of your Barnstar is somewhat 2.0, but it has a white backgroud instead of a transparent one. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:24, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It might have been - I wasn't aware that it needed it. Regardless, it appears to have it now.
 * Anyway, a link to the 2.0 guidelines/discussion would be helpful for anyone not privy to these things.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  16:37, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * "Adding a barnstar to the list" — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:41, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It seems quite absurd, and baffling, that someone with your demeanor, an antithesis of this very WikiProject's goal statement of a "Kindness Campaign [...] promot[ing] Civility and WikiLove", comes to supervise & enforce its strict, meticulously & painstakingly portioned distribution.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  17:03, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Tom.Reding I didn't join this project to enforce anything. I simply notified the project of your Barnstar. Even now, with your response from above is insulting as to define me as a contradiction to this project. I remaster, remove duplicates, create new Barnstars for Wikiprojects that have none. As editors, we have every right to state are opinions and you took my position as offensive because I desire your Barnstar to be removed. No matter the outcome of the consensus, I stand by my word. If I was as cruel as you think I am, I could've just removed it without notifying anyone. The only thing I was wrong about was not keeping my cool, for that, I apologize. JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:49, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I think you've assumed that I took offense to your position, and acted accordingly, instead of assessing the situation & my responses, and those of others, objectively (it appears as if you flat out ignored others' responses as well, as you asked questions which were answered prior). Perhaps due to the 'typical' response you generally get here (I have no idea), or that you are that way naturally (also no idea). But either way, it's unbecoming and entirely inappropriate of anyone performing your tasks, or any tasks requiring judgement, and relegates your opinion to nearly irrelevant, at the very least not to be taken seriously.
 * There's nothing wrong with having something superfluous I've made being removed, as evidenced very recently here.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  20:13, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * This is obviously rather pointless nagging on both of you two's part. I think you should stop before it becomes worse.★Trekker (talk) 21:19, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

The Translation Barnstar
I've created an alternative 2.0 Barnstar for Template:The Translation Barnstar. It was on the list of Barnstars that needed a 2.0. I'm not sure if that necessary though. The template had a 2.0 already. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:28, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I like your version better than the current barnstar, which looks like an award for contributions to articles on international relations. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 19:34, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thnx. And the current 2.0 in the template was supposed to be the replacement for this. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:43, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The current 2.0 is an amazing looking barnstar, but doesn't feel like the right fit for translation. might be better for international politics or UN or similar... I like this one as simple and much more appropriate for the topic! Will (talk) 14:33, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

The Literary Barnstar
Made a 2.0 for Template:The Literary Barnstar. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 17:49, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I like it. The old one rubs me the wrong way... I don't like "Barnstars" that don't look like Barnstars! there's other award categories to put such things in. This one fits nicely. Just curious though, why is the globe turned to Africa? Will (talk) 17:09, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Will I didn't make the globe. It was already made together with the books. But Africa makes sense, since writing was first developed in Africa. The only thing I added was the Wikipedia "W" symbol. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:36, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

The Banstar Barnstar
Template:The Banstar Barnstar, I don't think anyone who is indef. blocked/banned from editing suddenly wants to get busted editing because of this, and do editors who've been blocked in the past really want this to? It seems more awkward than it is rewarding. Propose to remove from the list. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 22:12, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I have a hard time understanding exactly what it is for.★Trekker (talk) 23:07, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * According to the description, it's not intended for users who are banned from Wikipedia, but is intended for users who are banned from public databases due to "incessant fact-checking, due diligence, data collection, and/or general curiosity". - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 23:29, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I already read the description, and it's quite obvious there's some confusion. And I'm going to assume the Barnstar is meant to be awarded to those who've been banned outside of Wikipedia? I still don't see why that's relevant. —— JudeccaXIII (talk) 23:46, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing maybe it's a bit coy?★Trekker (talk) 23:50, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I just viewed the usage of the Barnstar image and the template history, and I didn't find any discussion concerning this. It seems it was boldly inserted without notice. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 00:14, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Can we contact the creator?★Trekker (talk) 00:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Tom.Reding — JudeccaXIII (talk) 00:19, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * When systematically querying online databases in high volume like the JPL Small-Body Database, the Minor Planet Center, the IUCN Red List of Endangered Species, etc., an over-eager Wikipedian can get themselves (their IP anyway, usually) temporarily or semi-permanently throttled and/or banned from those sites. This barnstar is to salute users' efforts in a light-hearted way to keep the encyclopedia up-to-date.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  14:15, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * That makes sense, but how would a user know if another user is banned from a database? - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 14:29, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know why getting banned from another website/non-Wiki database has anything to do with Wikipedia. Do you mean getting blocked/banned from a Wiki site but edit another related Wiki? — JudeccaXIII (talk) 14:38, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I think he means when someone accidentaly gets blocked (likely because the site wrongly assumes them to be a bot) when doing research a lot on a specific site. This has happened to me once or twice.★Trekker (talk) 15:15, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Who and/or how is that supposed to be verified? I guess my concern/confusion with this is who would be giving the award, and how would they know to do so? Is this self-awarded like service awards? Will (talk) 15:18, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * as with most barnstars, it's best received rather than self-administered.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  15:27, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * where do you think all the data in the infobox of 99942 Apophis and all the 10s of 1000s of minor planet articles, and all threatened statuses to categorize under come from?   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  15:23, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * just by mentioning it in a conversation/discussion.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  15:23, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

What if someone dosn't want to be identified as previously banned? I really don't think this is necessary for a Barnstar. There are plenty of Barnstars that can be awared for different types of contributions. Whether someone has been previously blocked/banned for any reason or by mistake is not important. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 15:30, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * then they wouldn't have mentioned it in the first place. There's also a revert button. Are you new to Wikipedia?  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  15:35, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't see how this barnstar is an issue really, (maybe it needs a clearer description tho). Barnstars are for rewarding hard work and this is a humourous one.★Trekker (talk) 15:38, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Tom.Reding Yeah, because reverting someones comment is good. Are you that stupid? Anyways, obviously I oppose. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 15:44, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Who reverted what exactly?★Trekker (talk) 15:57, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * please note and read Wikipedia's policies on WP:CIVILITY & WP:NOPERSONALATTACKS.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  16:01, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * This. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:03, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * To me it looks like you both need to calm down a little.★Trekker (talk) 16:07, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

★Trekker Thanks, I've already made my message clear to Tom. I would like to stay forcus with the Barnstar now. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:11, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I've updated the description to make it absolutely clear it's outside Wikipedia.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  15:51, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Reverted wrong message. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 15:53, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Remove or Keep consensus
Moving forward, we have all expressed our opinions or somewhat but there is no clear consensus to keep or to remove. It was added origianlly at WP:BARN by Tom.Reding without consensus. At this point, the discussion above is going no where, so lets get this over with. I think everyone knows my position on the matter, that I prefer to see it Remove. Other than being added without consensus, The critera had caused some confusion, but it is meant to be awarded to editors who've contributed outsite of the project as Tom has stated. The other confusion is how do we know if someone has been banned on another database that's not Wikipedia. By this comment, I assume we have to remind them that they were banned from a database outside of Wikipedia? Overall, I don't think it's good to remind people that they were banned from outside of Wikipedia, even if that person mentions it. It's none of our business to quote it. I also don't think this is a positive gesture. More like a awkward or quite possibly rude. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 17:18, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I personally like it. But I'd say we need input from more people. Maybe from outside the project.★Trekker (talk) 17:22, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - as creator. The description has been updated to address the perceived ambiguity. Banning in this sense is to be seen as a point of pride, a badge of honor of sorts, stemming not from malicious intent, but from the highest regard and effort for keeping massive amounts of pages up-to-date on Wikipedia. This is meant to reinforce that praise and promote such continued behavior (after finding a proxy).  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  17:45, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * My opinion likely won't matter much, but I personally lean towards keeping the Banstar Barnstar (though I will say that I have found the name's similarity to the Barnstar Barnstar to be quite confusing in the past). From what I can tell, the barnstar's purpose is not to insult other users or rudely remind them of their ban, but instead to gently poke fun at the fact that maybe the recipient was a bit too overenthusiastic in their research. Of course, an awarder would have to use common sense to determine the potential recipient's attitude towards the ban (if the recipient is fuming about the ban, then it's probably best not to award it, whereas if the recipient is listing "Got banned from this online database" under their list of achievements on their userpage, the barnstar is perfectly fine), but I'd daresay that one would need to use common sense when awarding any barnstar, so that property isn't exclusive to this barnstar alone. TheHardestAspect OfCreatingAnAccount IsAlwaysTheUsername  18:46, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * TheHardestAspect OfCreatingAnAccount IsAlwaysTheUsername  Why wouldn't it? Your opinion helps determine consensus. JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:06, 12 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep, I don't see any reason to "Romove". - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 19:34, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Neutral I'm still not clear how someone is supposed to know when to award this. I suppose in some of the science portals it could be a bigger deal (I guess I can see this coming up in astronomy related topics). So my take on it is really rather "meh". I don't think it's needed or warranted, but I also don't see any harm in having it in place. Will (talk) 17:54, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

The consensus is quite obvious, so I've taken the liberty of remastering the Barnstar to a 2.0. I personally think the Barnstar should be moved to "The Database Ban Barnstar". — JudeccaXIII (talk) 15:00, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The name is part of the joke I feel.★Trekker (talk) 15:56, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I like the new version but am against the name change. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 16:09, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It was just a suggestion, I'm not actually requesting a move. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:13, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * that looks very nice, good work. I definitely prefer the transparent circle-slash to the solid grey. My only concern is the blue barnstar. I specifically chose the File:Barnstar of Diligence Hires.png as the base for the original, due to diligence required by the recipient. Is the blue used per a certain color scheme that should be followed, or is the diligence and/or original barnstar also an acceptable alternative?  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  14:20, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Tom.Reding Done. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 03:14, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * That looks downright sexy. I've updated the template.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  03:36, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Tom.Reding Thanks, I'm glad you like it. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:40, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

The Bot Creator and Maintainer Barnstar
Propose Barnstar for those who create bots, for those who help maintain them/fix bot issues/or upgrade them. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 02:24, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I like it, although I would make the gear/puzzle piece logo slightly smaller. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 12:04, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> I decreased the size and removed the transparency effect. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 22:51, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * That looks better. I support adding it to the list. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 00:01, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

BoNM for Taiwan
I created a BoNM2.0 for ROC/Taiwan... how do I add an alt to the template? — Will (talk) 13:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅, although I think you should know that Taiwan (the nationalist China) is the "Republic of China", not the "People's Republic of China" (the communist China). - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 14:48, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> National Merit Barnstars are added at Barnstars 2.0/Barnstar of National Merit, not the main list. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 15:26, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I thought I had put ROC on it...do I have PRC someplace? if so I can fix and upload a new version to commons... — Will (talk) 15:53, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You named the file "BoNM 2- People's Republic of China Hires". I've made a request that the file be renamed "BoNM 2- Republic of China Hires" at commons. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 19:46, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * ahh... and that's not something I can directly fix! I can rename my file, upload it fresh and put in a speedy delete on the old file though.. — Will (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
 * There's no need, a file mover has renamed the file. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 12:10, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Jainism Award 2.0
I've created a Barnstar 2.0 for the Jainism Award for WP:JAIN. I know the original used the Swastika, 3 dots, and Siddhashila from the Jainism Flag but using the Ahimsa felt like it might be a little less politically charged and is equally appropriate as it's also part of the Jain symbol. The background colors are straight off the Jain flag (yes, the white is supposed to be wider). Will (talk) 17:05, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Added a slightly different version that increases the size of the front-piece... opinions on these? Will (talk) 17:20, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

my proposal to the Barnstar 2.0 project talk. Will (talk) 18:36, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I like both of them, but the first one a little more, I like that the circle fits within the stars own.★Trekker (talk) 17:26, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Will You're having issues with the writing on the symbol. Is that why you presented another Barnstar with a larger symbol? — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:30, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The problem with working in larger SVG's is that what might look decent at full size can get weird looking at smaller sizes. The whole thing felt compressed to me once I had it uploaded and rendered, so I tried a larger format as well. So yes, the writing is part of it. — Will (talk) 11:12, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I tried working on this in July. I was using the same symbol, but the writing was difficult to see. I even cropped the circle in the hand but still had issues. — JudeccaXIII (talk)
 * I link the first one better. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 22:26, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I like the one on the left. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 00:36, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

I've created some ribbons to go with this as well. — Will (talk) 13:56, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

The Islam Barnstar
I've created a Barnstar 2.0 for the Islam Award for WP:ISLAM. Went with just updating the original. Really isn't a better choice than a caligraphy Bismillah! Proposing its addition to WP:Barnstars 2.0. — Will (talk) 12:38, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree that it looks a lot better.★Trekker (talk) 13:10, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Too many awards?
We have too many awards, is that the problem? If you discuss and develop consensus to redirect a barnstar, that's fine. Without discussion you seem to be implementing a solution for a problem that doesn't exist. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 23:28, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Just redirecting barnstars that have the same purpose. Since you oppose change, I'll undo my edits. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 23:30, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Having too many awards for the same purpose is a problem. I suggest that for each set of like-awards, we decide (or we let the appropriate WikiProject decide for topical barnstars) which award is displayed on this page.  Instead of redirecting the other award, we should leave it as an alternative to the main award and list it somewhere else. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 01:27, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * List of wanting to redirect:


 * Template:The Barnstar Creator's Barnstar → Template:Barnstar Barnstar
 * Template:BarnSakura Award → Template:The Anime Barnstar
 * Template:Userpage Shield Barnstar → Template:The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
 * — Preceding unsigned comment added by JudeccaXIII (talk • contribs) 03:00, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I would keep the Barnstar Barnstar and the Anti-Vandalism Barnstar listed here. I'm not sure about the BarnSakura/Anime Barnstar, as I think we should let the anime and manga WikiProject decide which award they would prefer listed here.  Again, I don't like the idea of redirecting the other awards, as there may be some users who prefer to use them.  Instead, we could move them to the Personal user awards list. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 13:01, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * "Having too many awards for the same purpose is a problem." How so? I oppose all these redirects until it's explained to me why this is necessary. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 13:05, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * What I meant was "having multiple awards for the same purpose listed in the main barnstar list is a problem". I have no problem with having redundant awards, but I have a problem with listing all of them on the main list. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 13:25, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> I did redirect the original anime barnstar to the new one. Here is also the information about the old Barnstar. I tried merging the old version with the template of the new one, but I was having an issue doing so. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 21:56, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I've merged the two awards. Using   will display the blue barnstar 2.0 version. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 22:08, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Again, why? What problem does it present when there is more than one award for the same purpose? Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 22:49, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Chris Troutman This project has a goal of remastering Barnstars to 2.0 versions. I don't think editors who work on creating Barnstars should obligate themselves to remastering duplicates, even if a duplicate has been approved through previous consensus. For me, redirecting copies. As ZLEA states above, his option is friendlier by adding copies to Personal user awards. I don't oppose. We both agree these shouldn't be on the main list. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 00:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for answering the question. I don't think the barnstars should be remastered nor do I think this group of editors should take it upon themselves to change awards ostensibly awarded by WikiProjects. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 14:06, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

<b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> Thanks, I've added the Barnstar under "Topical". — JudeccaXIII (talk) 23:17, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

The Psychology Barnstar
I've created a Barnstar 2.0 for the Psychology Award for WP:PSYCH. Went with just updating the original. Really isn't a better choice than a caligraphy Bismillah! Proposing its addition to WP:Barnstars 2.0. — Will (talk) 19:31, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I would change the color of either the barnstar or the psi so that they are not both black, and I would soften the edge of the Psi as it looks pixelated. Other than that, it looks good. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 19:46, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Fixed the colors. I also retraced my paths on the psi, and it looks way better at full size. I cannot for the life of me get the curves on the limbs to stop pixelating at when viewed reduced. It may just be the way that the renderer is handling a curve that shape scaled down. — Will (talk) 11:37, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I like the new color, and the entire barnstar looks great at full size. I support adding this to the list, even if it pixelates at small sizes. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 12:00, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

The Barnstar Barnstar
Created a Barnstar 2.0 for the Barnstar Barnstar. This one is just a straight up Hi-Res version of 1.0 — Will (talk) 18:13, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks good. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 18:38, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Will There's nothing wrong with the original 2.0. Increasing the size of a Barnstar does not mean the quality has increased, and what I've seen with your Barnstars lately, the sharpness on the edges have been more noticeable. The only reason I can think of is the size of the file. These large files are going to look more pixelated when they are set to 100px in the templates. There is no guideline on how to determine the size, but other than your Barnstars, the largest and most common size I've seen when it comes to the dimensions of Barnstars are (2,000 × 1,900 pixels). JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:06, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Censored barnstar
A few days ago I saw a user on an admin's talk page asking to have their IP block exempt user right renewed because they used a proxy to contribute from the People's Republic of China, where Wikipedia is censored. I propose an award for editors who live in countries where free knowledge is censored but find ways to contribute anyway. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 22:53, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't have access to Photoshop right now, but regardless, here's my rough idea for the barnstar design (whipped up in MSPaint in the span of five minutes):
 * Any suggestions? I think the wall could be retracted slightly so as to reveal more of the barnstar, but that's up for debate for now. (I'll need to go back and set the background to transparent, redo this in the proper 1900x2000px dimensions, etc. anyways.) TheHardestAspect OfCreatingAnAccount IsAlwaysTheUsername  06:29, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I like it, but yes, I would cut the wall back a little. I would also add the colors of the free speech flag to the barnstar. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 13:31, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

The Admin's Barnstar
Maybe should we add an alternate Admin's Barnstar? (which is supposed to be awarded to Wikipedia administrators) 'Cheers! Central Time 301' 02:58, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

item note
this is a very cool page. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 20:00, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Queer barnstar?
I was thinking maybe we could change the name of the LGBT barnstar and the LGBT Studies barnstar to be the Queer barnstar and the Queer Studies barnstar, to encourage writing about queer subjects that don’t fall under LGBT, such as asexuality. What does everyone think?2600:1002:B01E:167C:4D8C:2F51:737D:912B (talk) 16:39, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * As far as I'm aware Wikipedia treats asexuality as within the LGBT sphare, and since the word "queer" is still somewhat controversial I think we should keep it at its current name.★Trekker (talk) 16:52, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, never mind.2600:1002:B02C:377F:8DB8:1C49:4A87:246A (talk) 03:30, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Trying to give barnstars
I'm trying to award barnstars to the participants in today's #citeNLM Wikipedia edit-a-thon, but I keep getting messages saying the user pages do not exist. I know they exist, because the people made edits and signed up in our Outreach Dashboard. I don't want to create the user page without their permission, and I'm confused as to why they don't have one? Medlib.here (talk) 02:40, 21 November 2019 (UTC)November 20, 2019; 6:40 PM ; Medlib.here
 * Just because one creates an account does not necessarily mean they have created a userpage yet, so I'm guessing the contributors created an account but didn't create a user page yet. (You can tell when someone has a userpage or not by whether their name is redlinked --if it is, their userpage hasn't been created yet.) You could still give them barnstars on their talk pages, however (and it's absolutely fine to create a user's talk page if it doesn't already exist). TheHardestAspect OfCreatingAnAccount IsAlwaysTheUsername  05:14, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I've been given barnstars on my talk page. If a user page does not exist, it's quite alright to give barnstars on talk pages. Bill Pollard (talk) 16:54, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

question re inserting awards
hi. I have a question about Personal user awards. sorry to ask such a basic question, but what is the code to use to insert the awards on that page? sorry if I missed this data somewhere. I looked for it, but didn't seem to see it there. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 21:22, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe all of the code for the awards on that page is under subpages that are linked to directly underneath each section header ("Main page: ...", etc.). I'm not sure whether you're trying to add an award or give an award to another: if the former, you can simply upload the image to Commons' Upload Wizard and model the code for the other awards to add yours. If the latter, though, I think you'll have to add the award box, etc. yourself. I found a quick model for Phoenix's Dead Rat Award on LilHelpa's awards page, and tried to generalize the code: ...which you can change as need be. TheHardestAspect OfCreatingAnAccount IsAlwaysTheUsername  03:35, 17 January 2020 (UTC) (Also, former apologies to randomphoenix03 for stealing his code...)

Wikiproject Malta
I'm looking to create a Barnstar in recognition of contribution to WikiProject Malta and other Malta related pages - certainly there are a great number of contributors who deserve one. Can I gauge opinion on whether this is something people would like to see happen? My photoshop skills are terrible, but would something along these lines work? Very happy to receive feedback. All constituent parts are free of copyright, and the final image is my own work. Kilbosh talk 15:29, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I think it's a good idea.★Trekker (talk) 15:57, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you - as there was no opposition either here or at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Malta I have gone on to create the Barnstar. Kilbosh talk 16:42, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

The double accolade code doesn't result in showing a barnstar?
I've just copy/pasted the code with the double accolades on a user page, but the barnstar doesn't appear. Can anybody help out? |Have a look. Thy, SvenAERTS (talk) 21:57, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * That userpage is on Wikimedia Commons, where the daVinci barnstar does not exist. That's why the code doesn't work.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 22:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * As jmcgnh said, that template only exists here, on the English Wikipedia. If you want to give a barnstar to someone on Commons, you'll have to pick from this list or give it to them on their English Wikipedia user talk page. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 23:52, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, that's bizarre, the user I was referred to, was an account on the Wikimedia Commons. Thy SvenAERTS (talk) 03:43, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

The Indian Barnstar
I think we could have a barnstar for contributors who contribute or significantly edit articles related to India and its culture. What do you think?

 Dishita Bhowmik  07:37, 25 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Always a good idea to have ways of recognition - could you check if this India Star fulfils your requirements before any additional barnstars are generated? Kilbosh talk 12:05, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

early contributor barnster
I think we should have a barnstar for new wikipedians that try their best from the start to improve and create articles. Quantum squid88 (talk) 19:38, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

note re this page
hi. I like this page, but I am not sure how to use these awards. where does this page provide the code to be used for each individual template here? I appreciate your help. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 19:47, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * You simply copy paste the template text.★Trekker (talk) 20:11, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Barnstar maker template
I created Barnstar maker. This template will allow you to create your own barnstar template, if you have an image already. lmk what you think. --awkwafaba (📥) 23:57, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a great idea.★Trekker (talk) 23:59, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

People who change their minds
IMO one of the hardest things for editors to do is to admit that they've changed their minds. If you're lucky, you've seen it happen: someone holds an opinion, and in the middle of a dispute, says, "You know what?  I (re-read the source, thought about what you said, considered the new information provided by User:Example, slept on it, whatever), and I've changed my mind.  I originally thought this, but now I think _____."

This is hard to do. First you have to think, and then (if you come to a different conclusion), you have to be brave enough to say so in public. I think this is behavior that we should be encouraging and rewarding. Could we have a barnstar for this? I don't have great ideas for the name, but maybe a Barnstar of Fearless Logic? WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:27, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Seems like a good idea.★Trekker (talk) 17:32, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * WhatamIdoing: I second it. You might want to look over on Reddit -- they have a similar concept in a sub called "Change My View". (Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/) They have a practice of awarding "deltas" to people who are particularly persuasive. Maybe incorporate a delta symbol somehow? -- &#x03C6; OnePt618Talk &#x03C6;  07:05, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

I've created Template:The Persuasive Barnstar. Jerm (talk) 15:47, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I like it, and I'll be looking for an opportunity to use it.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:35, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Could someone add this at WP:BARN under sub-section "General barnstars" with a well-typed criteria? I'd greatly appreciated it, thnx. Jerm (talk) 05:46, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

I know I'm going against the grain here, but I do have two concerns with this barnstar: (Also a quick suggestion: perhaps we could add a U-turn symbol to the center of the barnstar? I feel that would better illustrate the concept of this barnstar whilst preventing it from being mistaken for another.) <i style="color:#639">TheHardestAspect</i><i style="color:#46d">OfCreatingAnAccount</i><i style="color:#d14">IsAlwaysTheUsername</i> 06:43, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) The current title ("The Persuasive Barnstar") seems to praise the person doing the persuading, as opposed to praising the person who was persuaded. "The Persuaded Barnstar" or "The Persuadable Barnstar" would be better, but I feel they could still be improved. ("The Amenable Barnstar" or "The Receptive Barnstar," maybe?)
 * 2) I feel like this award could be abused by someone switching their point of view in a debate not because they have truly changed their minds, but instead to "win" a barnstar. Granted, I don't think anyone with over 100 edits would do such a thing, but I feel such behavior is within the realm of possibility and is thus worth mentioning.


 * I don't mind changing the name to "The Persuaded Barnstar", but I'm not adding any symbol to the barnstar. The title and color alone is distinguishable from other barnstars. Your concern for the barnstar being abused though is very likely. I'm defiantly considering taking it down. I don't want my work ending up like the Guestbook Barnstar. Jerm (talk) 07:33, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

User:TheHardestAspectOfCreatingAnAccountIsAlwaysTheUsername makes a very valid point. The possibility of this barnstar being abused is most likely. What are your thoughts on the matter? Jerm (talk) 02:10, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Jerm, I think it's fine to pick another name. People are sometimes persuaded by others.  They're sometimes just thinking it over themselves ("Thoughtful Barnstar"?  "Thinking it Over"?).  They're sometimes thinking about the problem from another perspective or incorporating new information ("Changing Perspectives"?  "Taking a Second Look"?).  And publicly admitting that your first response wasn't the best you could do is an act of courage and community-building (because if I say I'm not perfect, then it becomes safe for others to say that they're not perfect), so that's another set of concepts that might generate a reasonable name.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:02, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The ideal behind your barnstar sounds much like the "What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar" and maybe the Barnstar of Diplomacy. It was a good suggestion, but I think the two already at WP:BARN are sufficient enough. Jerm (talk) 00:20, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I think that "What a Brilliant Idea" is about coming up with a new idea, rather than changing your mind (which could mean saying that your previous new idea isn't brilliant after all). The "Barnstar of Diplomacy" is about helping other people work together, rather than being one of the thoughtful and collaborative people yourself.  I think you should keep this.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:45, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
 * You and can figure out what the title of the barnstar should be. I just put "Persuasive" because I thought it was the best title that fits the idea of the barnstar. I still agree with TheHardestAspectOfCreatingAnAccountIsAlwaysTheUsername about the barnstar being abused, and I don't think a well descriptive criteria can fix it. I also think the "What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar" already meets your request (example: "I change my mind. Your idea/suggestion was very persuasive. Thank you! ~ ") Maybe you can come up with something new? Jerm (talk) 03:24, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The example I have in mind sounds like this: "I saw that you said X in this discussion on Monday (a discussion that I have nothing to do with myself), and on Tuesday, I saw that you said you'd changed your mind.  Thanks for having the courage to publicly say that you'd changed your mind.  Every time people say something like that, it makes it feel safer for other editors to say that they'd had second thoughts, too."  WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:55, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Are you satisfied with the current title "The Persuasive Barnstar", or do you prefer another? Jerm (talk) 17:48, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer another. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:54, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * What title do you prefer then? Jerm (talk) 20:39, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I've been thinking about it but not coming up with a good name. Sorry.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:30, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Some random ideas:
 * Changed Mind
 * Retrospection
 * Change of Mind
 * Turnaround
 * Compelled
 * Reconsideration
 * Swayed
 * Convinced
 * Brought around
 * ... barnstar. —⁠andrybak (talk) 13:21, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Barnstar Idea
I had created these two barstars some time ago. The image in front of the barnstar depicts a diya, also used in Diwali, the Hindu festival of lights. "The second one (black barnstar) ... suggests bringing light into darkness, exactly the kind of thing a potential barnstar recipient might have done." (quote from the discussion which led to the creation of this barnstar took place here on the Noticeboard for India-related topics). The idea was given by User:Kautilya3. What would be the process to get this formalised and placed in the main list for everyones usage like a normal barnstar? DTM (talk) 12:31, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I like the visual design. What do you have in mind for the purpose of the barnstar? "Bringing light into the darkness" is a nice start but I think that more specificity would be best. ↠Pine   (<b style="color:#FFDF00;text-shadow:#FFDF00 0 0 1.0em">✉</b>)  01:47, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, this is designed as a Hinduism barnstar, to be given to editors that make strong contributions to Hinduism-related articles. The present template:Hinduism Award is very traditionalist. This is designed to be more modern, and also broader, covering Hindu culture, festivals, and social topics etc., for which the traditionalist barnstar wouldn't be very appropriate. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:41, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Kautilya3, am I correct in saying that the new barnstar would cover modern Hinduism while the current barnstar would remain as it is? 17:57, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

I thought this was going to be a barnstar to a topic not covered by any barnstar. If you're proposing to replace the Hinduism Award that has been around since 2006 then I oppose. There is no need to replace an established barnstar. Also, the Om symbol is far more recognizable. Jerm (talk) 17:27, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't we allow two types of barnstars per topic? For Hinduism, there is only one at present.
 * Note that Hinduism is very diverse. Not all aspects of Hinduism correlate to "Om". -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:37, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * We either remaster or create an alternative design per WP:B2G. The Hinduism Award does not need it because it already has the original and the remastered version in the template. Multiple barnstar templates that cover the same topic are considered duplicates, and it was already discussed last year that duplicates shouldn't be on WP:BARN. Jerm (talk) 20:07, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Categorization of barnstars
While subcategorizing templates in Category:Wikipedia barnstar templates, I've noticed that a lot of templates in the category are not technically barnstars, but just awards, with no star in the imagery. I wonder if it would be better to rename all subcategories to replace the word "barnstar" with "Wikipedia award"? This would also allow to subcategorize the Category:Wikipedia award templates.

For tracking purposes, the Category:Wikipedia barnstar templates could be added to template pages by Template:Barnstar documentation. It would also make sense to rename the template to Award documentation. Non-barnstar award templates then can be excluded from the automatic tracking categorization via something like a parameter no. —⁠andrybak (talk) 18:14, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Merge Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Awards by WikiProject
Hello, the page Barnstars 2.0/Awards by WikiProject has had a merge tag since July 2018. I believe that page was started by Antonu for the purpose of remastering and creating new barnstars. Most of the time though, editors would just make a request at his talk page rather than here in this project. Since Antonu is no longer active and is even considering retirement, I think it would be good to merge the barnstars there to WP:BARN and close Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Awards by WikiProject. For anyone who doesn't know, Antonu was the one who created File:Original Barnstar Hires.png and the Barnstars 2.0/Guidelines and took responsibility for remastering and creating new barnstars. All request now come to this talk page and should come only to this page. Does anyone disagree with the merge? Jerm (talk) 01:10, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , I Concur —¿philoserf? (talk) 19:29, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , —¿philoserf? (talk) 19:34, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Is there any opposition to my proposal? I've already been merging barnstars to WP:BARN prior to this proposal, but I would like confirmation in closing Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Awards by WikiProject for good. Jerm (talk) 17:25, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support., please proceed per WP:BOLD. PPEMES (talk) 19:40, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Translation, communications, and interlingual or international relations barnstars
There are at least 3 barnstars for translation. The first 2 are listed on Barnstars. I propose grouping these 3 barnstars in a separate table so that users are aware that there are at least 3 options for similar activities and can decide which one they want to use when giving a barnstar. ↠Pine  (<b style="color:#FFDF00;text-shadow:#FFDF00 0 0 1.0em">✉</b>)  06:29, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I wouldn’t dedicate a table for translation barnstars. Instead, just keep the Rosetta Barnstar since it’s the most used and is already implemented in the Wikilove module. Get rid of the others. Jerm (talk) 12:40, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I think the Interlingual barnstar should be dedicated to the subject international relations instead. Jerm (talk) 00:37, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

I like the interlingual barnstar for international relations also, but it has already been used on Meta for interlingual work, although I could propose it for use on ENWP as an international relations barnstar. I would like to re-purpose the translation barnstar but I'm not sure what to use it for. Do you have suggestions? ↠Pine  (<b style="color:#FFDF00;text-shadow:#FFDF00 0 0 1.0em">✉</b>)  01:48, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Even though it's being used as the translation barnstar in sister-projects, the Interlingual barnstar has only been awarded twice here on the English Wiki. And we don't need to rename the image file. Just gotta make a new barnstar template and name it "The International Relations Barnstar". The Translation barnstar doesn't have to have a new purpose. It can be added at Translation, but it can't be on WP:BARN since the Rosetta barnstar is there already. Jerm (talk) 02:45, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I have started a 3 part RfC, which you can see below. ↠Pine   (<b style="color:#FFDF00;text-shadow:#FFDF00 0 0 1.0em">✉</b>)  03:16, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't expect anymore participants in the RfC. I think the Translation and Interlingual barnstar should just go. The Rosetta barnstar is already in the Wikilove module, and if it's suddenly removed from there, the response from other editors won't be very positive. Jerm (talk) 02:00, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I will look at this and get back to you probably sometime next week. Please feel free to remind me if you haven't heard back from me by April 3. Thanks! ↠Pine   (<b style="color:#FFDF00;text-shadow:#FFDF00 0 0 1.0em">✉</b>)  01:49, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Proposed changes to barnstars regarding translation, communications, and international relations
Should previously awarded Translation barnstars be replaced with Rosetta barnstars, should the current image for the Translation Barnstar be re-purposed as an image for a new "Communications Barnstar", and should an "International Relations Barnstar" be created? (Because Proposal 1 affects existing barnstars, I am taking the unusual step of creating an RfC regarding barnstars.) ↠Pine   (<b style="color:#FFDF00;text-shadow:#FFDF00 0 0 1.0em">✉</b>)  03:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Proposal 1: Replace all existing Translation barnstars with Rosetta barnstars

 * Neutral. ↠Pine   (<b style="color:#FFDF00;text-shadow:#FFDF00 0 0 1.0em">✉</b>)  02:55, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support —¿philoserf? (talk) 03:17, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak support. The two barnstars seem to be for slightly different purposes based on their descriptions on the Barnstars list (the former being for efforts specifically related to Translation, and the latter being for translation efforts in general). At the same time, however, the former has a mere fifteen transclusions compared to the latter's 204, so I could see how the former could be considered redundant. — <i style="color:#639">TheHardestAspect</i><i style="color:#46d">OfCreatingAnAccount</i><i style="color:#d14">IsAlwaysTheUsername</i>: posted at 18:43, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Stong Support for the Rosetta barnstar The Rosetta barnstar kind of replaced the translation barnstar a long time ago when it was added to the Wikilove module. Just get rid of the Translation barnstar. Template:Telecommunications Barnstar already covers the communication topic. Jerm (talk) 04:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Proposal 2: create a new "Communications Barnstar" which will use the image that was previously used for the "Translation Barnstar"
Create a new "Communications Barnstar" which will use the image that is currently used for the "Translation Barnstar" on English Wikipedia, and remove the current "Translation Barnstar" from the list of barnstars. The description of the Communications Barnstar will be "for excellence in Wikimedia communications or excellence in contributions to articles regarding communications".
 * Support. ↠Pine   (<b style="color:#FFDF00;text-shadow:#FFDF00 0 0 1.0em">✉</b>)  02:55, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Neutral —¿philoserf? (talk) 03:18, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Conditionally support the creation of a "Communications Barnstar" if and only if Proposal #1 passes, but oppose using the same image; the Translation Barnstar's symbol is derived from the Wikimedia ISO 639 icons (see here as an example), which to my understanding are used almost solely in matters regarding translation. Also, I feel the barnstar should be only "for excellence in Wikimedia communications," as the Telecommunications Barnstar already exists for the latter purpose. — <i style="color:#639">TheHardestAspect</i><i style="color:#46d">OfCreatingAnAccount</i><i style="color:#d14">IsAlwaysTheUsername</i>: posted at 18:43, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose Template:Telecommunications Barnstar already covers the topic. Jerm (talk) 04:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Proposal 3: create a new International Relations Barnstar
Create a new "International Relations Barnstar" with the description "for excellence in contributions to articles regarding international relations or for excellence in international relations among Wikimedians".
 * Support. ↠Pine   (<b style="color:#FFDF00;text-shadow:#FFDF00 0 0 1.0em">✉</b>)  02:55, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose —¿philoserf? (talk) 03:18, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support, but the barnstar should be for either "excellence in contributions to articles regarding international relations" or "excellence in international relations among Wikimedians," not both simultaneously. (If Proposal #2 passes, the barnstar should only be for the former purpose, as the "Communications Barnstar" would cover the latter purpose.) — <i style="color:#639">TheHardestAspect</i><i style="color:#46d">OfCreatingAnAccount</i><i style="color:#d14">IsAlwaysTheUsername</i>: posted at 18:43, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support barnstar criteria covering the topic international relations. Jerm (talk) 04:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support. PPEMES (talk) 19:40, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Sock-catcher barnstar
There has been some previous discussion (see archives 10, 12, 13) about a star to award to someone who puts in a lot of effort to collect evidence and report disruptive sock-puppets. But nothing seems to have been decided; is that right? I don't much like the designs suggested. How about a simple image of a sock sticking out of a wastebin? Zerotalk 01:07, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I've always thought that would be a good idea as well. The question would be where to get the assets. It might be possible to extract the sockpuppet from File:Sock puppetting.svg and combine it with File:Oxygen480-status-hidef-user-trash-full.svg? I'd be happy to give it a try. — Yours, Berrely  • Talk∕Contribs 13:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Rename discussion for barnstar categories
Per my previous post, I've created a rename discussion. —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

We need a barnstar for history!
We need a barnstar for items related to WikiProject History. yes, history. why is there no barnstar yet for this? could someone please assist in crafting one? Please ping me when you reply. by the way, I am a coordinator at WP:History. --Sm8900 (talk) 03:31, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * okay, correction to previous note above; I just discovered that Epic barnstar is for history topics. I never observed that before, and I have not seen this barnstar used noticeably; so therefore, I expanded the title of this award to make it more visible.
 * However, I would still like to request a new barnstar for WikiProject History. is there a way to request that someone who has the technical skills to please assist with this? thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 03:37, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Please do not change the titles of barnstars. Just add the barnstar to the WP:History page under "Templates". Jerm (talk) 03:50, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

100K Barnstar?
I think this proposed new barnstar could award users who have made at least 100,000 edits. So far, I haven't found a Wikipedia award that mentions awarding users for editing 100,000 articles. The proposed description would either be "(Title placeholder) is awarded to those who have made at least 100,000 edits." or "(Title placeholder) is awarded to Wikipedians who have contributed so much that they made at least 100,000 articles." --AlphaBeta135 (talk) 00:21, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That already exists, as do barnstars for 10K, 25K, and 50K edits. - ZLEA  T \ C 02:25, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * These, and other awards are displayed on the page Personal user awards. —⁠andrybak (talk) 12:39, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I thought this barnstar is in the Barnstar list because it is, well, a barnstar. Why isn't it included in the Barnstar article?--AlphaBeta135 (talk) 13:14, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Because reaching a certain number of edits is not necessarily something that one editor would award another for. It's meant for users to award to themselves when they reach that edit count, in a similar fashion to service awards.  Also, the barnstars on the list are generally awarded to users for the quality of their contributions, not quantity. -  ZLEA  T \ C 16:25, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Highway Barnstar?
So far, I have not found any barnstar that awards users for contributing highway articles like Interstate Highways and the motorway in the UK. Are there any barnstar awards for contributing highway articles in general? If not, I could propose a new barnstar that awards users for contributing highway articles.--AlphaBeta135 (talk) 00:51, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Have you considered heading over to WP:ROADS and see is they were interested in having a WikiProject Award for this subject? Achowat (talk) 11:09, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Question about a ribbon for an existing barnstar
G'day all, an editor was kind enough to award me the File:Patience barnstar.png, and I would like to add it to my ribbon bars on my user page, but haven't been able to locate a ribbon for it at WP:RIBBONS. Is there some kind soul who would be able to make a ribbon for it? Thanks in anticipation. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:23, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

NPOV
The diligence barnstar includes the mention of neutrality, but I was wondering if a barnstar dedicated to the elimination of WP:YESPOV and WP:GEVAL issues would be a good idea. It's an endless task especially in relation to WP:FRINGE and pseudoscientific topics. Input and ideas welcome, — Paleo Neonate  – 13:12, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Classics related Barnstar
I've seen that there's a barnstar for Latin related achievements, but is there one for the Classics in general? If not, would anyone be interest in designing one? Best Modussiccandi (talk) 15:59, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Animal Rights Barnstar already created?
It looks like somebody created an animal rights barnstar and is using it but it is not on the list- (WikiProject Animal rights, scroll down to see “ Animal rights barnstar”.

Should I add it to the list?PrincessPairing (talk) 14:00, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Merger of Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Awards by WikiProject
Hello, I've finally completed the merger of all barnstars from Barnstars 2.0/Awards by WikiProject to WP:BARN as I had proposed per discussion. Informing participants of the discussion: &. I will begin closing Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Awards by WikiProject by redirecting it to Wikipedia:Barnstars#Topical_barnstars. Thank you & cheers! Jerm (talk) 01:23, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

The police barnstar
I would like to propose a new barnstar for admins who tirelessly block vandals.

This barnstar was originally awarded to User:Malcolmxl5. Firestar464 (talk) 03:44, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The barnstar was actually created for WikiProject Law Enforcement and is still in use via Law Enforcement Barnstar, but I don't see the need for a blocking barnstar when there's the Admin's Barnstar. Jerm (talk) 20:12, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

I guess I've created a new use and name for it! Firestar464 (talk) 02:11, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Adopter's Barnstar Proposal
Hi, I created a Barnstar for users who have adopted other users using WP:ADOPT an have done a great job. This barnstar is intended for grateful adoptees, but could be used by others who have seen a user doing a great job mentoring.



Dswitz10734 (talk) 17:00, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks nice, but there's one already in use via Template:Adopt-a-user Barnstar. Jerm (talk) 17:14, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Mathematics Barnstar Proposal
Hello! I created a barnstar for the Mathematics WikiProject and figured it might also be useful here - The current "E=mc²" Barnstar covers a wide range of topics, and some folks at the Mathematics project discussion thought it felt more physics-y than math-y. The star currently lives at User:AviationFreak/MathStar and looks like this:

Thanks! AviationFreak 💬 15:09, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Math and science are somewhat the same thing. That's why both subjects share the same barnstar. I'm willing to offer the creation of a Mathematics Barnstar though seeing that members of WikiProject Mathematics want a separate barnstar. Jerm (talk) 01:19, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Here is my version of the Mathematics Barnstar. I've already presented it to WikiProject Mathematics in the same discussion you mentioned. I don't think I can do any better than that. Jerm (talk) 13:22, 21 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I like your barnstar best . 100.11.62.135 (talk) 15:20, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

The Real Life Barnstar


This is just the image, as I don't know how to properly format it. This is just a suggestion. Le Panini  (Talk tome?)  02:32, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * There's already a Template:The Real-Life Barnstar. Jerm (talk) 02:48, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Dang! I thought it was a clever idea.   Le Panini   (Talk tome?)  02:50, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Propose to redirect
I propose that Template:The Barnstar Creator's Barnstar be redirected to Template:The Barnstar Barnstar. They both have the same criteria hence:

The Barnstar Creator's Barnstar

The Barnstar Barnstar

It has already been discussed in the past that there shouldn't be barnstars with duplicate criteria @WP:BARN. I've chosen the Barnstar Creator's Barnstar to be redirected because it has not been remastered yet, nor should it be since the Barnstar Barnstar has already been remastered. The Barnstar Creator's Barnstar also looks like an older version of File:Articles for Creation Barnstar Hires.png. Jerm (talk) 15:43, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

UAA Barnstar
I would like to propose a UAA barnstar for those who appear very frequently at WP:UAA. Thanks! Firestar464 (talk) 07:47, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * That's not a bad ideal. Awarded to editors who frequently report inappropriate usernames, or something similar to that. Jerm (talk) 07:16, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Romania Awards
Greetings, I would like some awards for WikiProject Romania, so people can award others for their hard work for the project. Currently the project doesn't have any. Editoneer (talk) 10:20, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

The Urban Barnstar
Hi, I would like to propose the Urban Barnstar for enormous contributions to City-related articles. --Danielyng (talk) 01:23, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

New topic barnstar
May we please make the Wildfire barnstar for WP:WikiProject Wildfire? --🔥<b style="color:red">Lightning</b><b style="color:orange">Complex</b><b style="color:dijon">Fire</b>🔥 (always me when replying) 16:11, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a nice idea. Have you suggested this at the Wildfire WikiProject? I'm not sure I've the time to play around with graphic, but it's easy to knock something rough and ready together from existing graphics on Commons. How aboout you try to develop something like this?

Good luck. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:13, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * {| style="border: 1px solid ; background-color: ;"
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 * rowspan="2" |
 * style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;" | The wild fire barnstar
 * style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" |
 * }
 * Code:
 * Regards, 88.130.61.101 (talk) 00:17, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, IP editor. I've found another image which might also be of interest to the OP. See here. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:30, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * WFBStar.png🔥<b style="color:red">Lightning</b><b style="color:orange">Complex</b><b style="color:dijon">Fire</b>🔥 19:13, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * WFBStar.png🔥<b style="color:red">Lightning</b><b style="color:orange">Complex</b><b style="color:dijon">Fire</b>🔥 19:13, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

New Barnstar Idea 2021
What about an "INSPIRATION BARNSTAR", this can be given to editors who served as an inspiration to other newcomers? If you like this, then ping me. .💠 245CMR 💠. •👥📜 08:03, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , I like it, but i think it might already exist 🔥<b style="color:red">Lightning</b><b style="color:orange">Complex</b><b style="color:dijon">Fire</b>🔥 19:58, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Actually, it doesn't. I think you can use The Barnstar of Dilligance and put something inspiration related on it, but it's your choice 🔥<b style="color:red">Lightning</b><b style="color:orange">Complex</b><b style="color:dijon">Fire</b>🔥 20:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't think it will match with Inspiration. .💠 245CMR 💠. •👥📜 04:46, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * This is actually more suitable for the Special Barnstar. Jerm (talk) 05:38, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

New Barnstar Idea 2021
Okay! So, I was recently given a barnstar by Doggy54321 for my signature and my user page and how colorful it is (thank you by the way), so I was thinking, what if I create a barnstar that gives a users that has a cool signature for themselves. If you like the idea, please me! Thanks! <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me!</b>) (<b style="color:grey">email me!!</b>) 13:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC) (Also, Jack Reynolds, you can use the tl template to automatically render template names in brackets without having to resort to using wikilinks in the future. Just so you know.) — <i style="color:#639">TheHardestAspect</i>&shy;<i style="color:#46d">OfCreatingAnAccount</i>&shy;<i style="color:#d14">IsAlwaysTheUsername</i>: posted at 19:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That’s a great idea! I’d also support a barnstar being created for userpages (to say "Hey, your userpage looks cool" or something). D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 14:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC) (please ping on reply)
 * My primary concern with the user page barnstar idea is that I feel it might encourage users to design grandiose user pages that end up violating WP:NOTWEBHOST. (I suppose the same could be true with the signature barnstar and leading people to create grandiose signatures that violate WP:SIGAPP or the other policies regarding signatures.) Regardless, I think the Special Barnstar could already be used in both cases.
 * Thank gosh your username is one word that I can just copy and paste, I would have had a heart attack trying to type it all out (no hate, it’s just really long [really funny as well]). Anyways, I think what Jack was trying to get at is that there are certain userpages and certain signatures that deserve a barnstar. For example, a couple months ago someone gave me a barnstar to say that my signature was awesome. As well, I gave Jack a barnstar to say that his userpage was well organized and that I loved it. I guess the special barnstar would work, but I was the catalyst for the new barnstar idea and I think Jack just wanted to build on that. Thanks! D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 20:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Per TheHardestAspectOfCreatingAnAccountIsAlwaysTheUsername, the Special Barnstar will do or even the plain Original Barnstar. Besides, having a nice user page or signature isn’t much of an achievement. Jerm (talk) 20:46, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * First of all, I totally get where you guys (Jerm & User:TheHardestAspectOfCreatingAnAccountIsAlwaysTheUsername) are getting towards. The only reason why I think it would help is to lift some spirit within some Wikipedians. My mother would always say is to celebrate the little things. And I know the signature isn't much of an achievement, but, it's the little things that matter. When D🐶ggy54321 gave me the barnstar, it really felt like I belonged here. And it also lifted my spirit. And we don't know what other users are going through with these tough time, and maybe, if we can at least lift someone's spirit, I think it's worth it. Additionally, thank you for the tl part, user:TheHardestAspectOfCreatingAnAccountIsAlwaysTheUsername! <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me!</b>) (<b style="color:grey">email me!!</b>) 23:26, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * All barnstars lift spirits up. That's part of their purpose, to show appreciation to editors who've displayed an outstanding contribution/s. Here's what really bothers me more than anything though. It sounds too similar to that of the Guestbook Barnstar (see TFD/2008_March_19#Template:The_Guestbook_Barnstar). Basically, barnstars were always given out to editors who had signed someone else's WP:GUESTBOOK. That's not an accomplishment, the same applies to this proposal. It devalues the barnstar process. Jerm (talk) 00:07, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

The Barnstar of Discord
I have an idea for a barnstar. This one is for Wikipedians who has a good reputation in the Discord. Do you think this idea is good?  Mario Jump  83!  14:58, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not too fond of this idea. There's a couple of issues. The title, Discord isn't really the only application for communicating with others. The criteria, why is someone's reputation relevant? It should be more for awarding someone who has provided help/assistance. Finally, using Discord or any other application to communicate is a personal choice which is not an accomplishment on Wikipedia. Jerm (talk) 18:52, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Political Barnstar proposal
I have an idea for a barnstar, this can be rewarded to users who contribute a significant amount to pages related to politics. Is it acceptable?

Pink Saffron (talk) 01:16, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Politics is such a sensitive thing to discuss. I don't believe this talk page should determine the barnstar design. It's better if you introduce this to the WikiProject that covers the topic via WikiProject Politics. Jerm (talk) 02:39, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Request for new award, re WikiPrairie Dogs
Hi. I would like to create a new Wiki award. it would be based upon the Wikifauna, WikiPrairie Dog. it would consist of a circular medal and a ribbon, with a graphical image of a prairie dog on it. it would be awarded to anyone who exhibits general awareness of our community needs, and does so in a helpful fashion. it might be called "Order of the Burrow," "Order of the Prairie Dog," or "Grand Order of the Society for the WikiPrairie Dog," or something similar.

what do you think? please ping me if you reply. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 13:45, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Indonesia Barnstar


There's a lot of articles related to Indonesia yet it has no barnstar. Maybe a barnstar on Indonesia-related contributions. It could maybe use other name, maybe Satyalancana Nusantara or something. Nyanardsan (talk) 23:55, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I had originally added the national emblem, but because it was so detail, it was impossible to read the writing on the emblem and distinguish the designs on it when set at the standard barnstar template size of 100px. The barnstar is now based on the Indonesia flag colors only. Jerm (talk) 00:52, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * See Template:The Indonesia Barnstar. Jerm (talk) 01:06, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Indonesia Barnstar2.png How about like this? Nyanardsan (talk) 01:40, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to find the eagle by itself. I did find this though:. Jerm (talk) 01:50, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I've reupload my image with the eagle onto your file, and placed it in the barnstar template. Jerm (talk) 02:14, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * That looks nice...So, now we need to wait or..? Is there a need to vote for this? Also sorry for asking this, but is there any rule about barnstar naming? Because I'm thinking this one wouldnt be just named "Indonesia Barnstar" if allowed Nyanardsan (talk) 12:07, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I've added them to WikiProject Indonesia/Templates. There isn't a rule for naming, but I would keep the title closely accurate to the topic the barnstar is covering. What is your proposed name? Jerm (talk) 14:21, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Basketball barnstar!
There’s a barnstar for baseball, which has a similar number of articles, if not less, yet there is not one for WikiProject:Basketball. I propose a barnstar for people who make significant, useful edits/creations of notable articles related to basketball. Saturn Lover! (talk) 18:21, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Done, see Template:The Basketball Barnstar. Jerm (talk) 03:17, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you User:Jerm, how can we approve it? Saturn Lover! (talk) 08:07, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I've already added it to WP:BARN, but I'll let WikiProject Basketball know they have a barnstar. Jerm (talk) 17:19, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thanks an awful lot for helping me create this barnstar.Saturn Lover! (talk) 19:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Alteration to Third Opinion Barnstar
I'm seeking a second opinion on a barnstar image.

I initially wanted to cleanup the image for (left) but found there were already a bunch of Socrates-themed barnstars (e.g.: Socratic Barnstar, another Socratic Barnstar, and the Barnstar of Wisdom) so I thought I'd try something different. My proposed image (right) uses the Opinion Barnstar with a handshake icon, to suggest a third-party opinion attempting to bridge consensus. I would add this as an alt image for the barnstar template. I don't have a graphics background and would greatly appreciate a second opinion. – Reidgreg (talk) 13:33, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi! You said below that you're taking care of Barnstars now, so I'd be interested to get a second opinion on this Third Opinion. I'm not confident in my design; it's okay, but I'm not sure that it really fits with everything else. – Reidgreg (talk) 22:22, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello. The hand shake seems to represent more about two people coming into an agreement rather than a third person giving their opinion. Also, I'm not very fond in using the same unique barnstar design of an already-existing barnstar such as using File:Opinion Barnstar Hires.png, but that's my style when it comes to making barnstars. I make sure almost every barnstar has their own unique color and design but good attempt though. And I also don't think the barnstar is really necessary as the Your Opinion is More Important than You Think Barnstar already covers the opinion of others no matter if they're the third, fourth, fifth person etc. Jerm (talk) 06:45, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The handshake is more prominent in the image (being the central element with a distinct border and high contrast) but the underlying balloon gives it context. Are speech balloons not well understood? What's inside the balloon is the thought being conveyed.  So the thought (or opinion) being conveyed is 'to come into an agreement'.  If one assumes the speaker isn't depicting themselves inside the balloon, then this is a third party suggesting agreement between two other parties.  I thought most people knew how to read cartoons.  (Although I suppose it could look like the barnstar itself is offering an opinion.)  Third Opinion is part of the dispute resolution process and the barnstar is intended as a service award to recognize significant contributors there.  I went through the other dispute resolution barnstars and imagery for inspiration, but they were a little grandiose for WP:3O, where I sought simpler imagery. I don't feel that it's a bad thing to use related imagery for related concepts, to make them more recognizable. – Reidgreg (talk) 10:46, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Old formatting for barnstars
Hello all, I have been off Wikipedia for a while & all my old barnstars no longer appear properly formatted on my user page. And I was wondering if anyone here could help me fix them.  T i a m u t talk 20:58, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It looks like fixed it, replacing the missing  tag. It now looks alright to me at User:Tiamut/Userpage/Barnstars and as transcluded on your main userpage. – Reidgreg (talk) 11:22, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you both very much. Have a wonderful day.  T i a m u t talk 11:38, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Possibly splitting WP:BARN
Hello, I primarily make the majority of barnstars today after Antonu left Wikipedia. I've done my best to keep WP:BARN organized, and slowly I've been adding new barnstars as well as older ones made by other editors. The majority of barnstars I've made are topical. In adding more barnstars, the WP:BARN page has gotten a lot bigger and has increased the time to scroll down to the bottom of the page. Not only that, there are other topical barnstars via Awards by WikiProject that need to be merged to WP:BARN. Slowly I've been merging and remastering old barnstars, but it has been more slower to navigate WP:BARN because of the amount of barnstars being added. I propose that the Topical barnstars have their own page, that way, it will be easier to scroll/navigate. Jerm (talk) 19:51, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Support split: Makes sense. That would leave the General barnstars and the Wikipedia-space barnstars together, and I think those are the ones which would get the most attention.  There are also a bunch of country-themed barnstars which were already split — perhaps that page and the new split page could be linked somewhere near the top of this Wikipedia page. – Reidgreg (talk) 22:18, 17 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Support split: Makes sense. EpicPupper (he/him | talk, FAQ, contribs) 18:51, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

20 Year Society
Hello - Is Twenty Year Society is a reasonable thing by way of analogy to Fifteen_Year_Society and Ten_Year_Society, now that we've reached the 20-year milestone? --The Cunctator (talk) 20:04, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I support its inclusion. Thank you. Al83tito (talk) 10:23, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Number of edits vs number of large edits (Service awards)
I have started a proposal in Talk page of Service awards. I invite any interested editors to deliberate on that proposal. Thank you. Al83tito (talk) 11:25, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

"Tireless Contributor Barnstar" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Tireless Contributor Barnstar. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 4 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Stefan2 (talk) 19:52, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

New Barnstar Proposal: Template:The Turning Wikipedia Green Barnstar
Would this be good to add to WP:Barnstars? It'd be for users who add encyclopedic content at high rates, turning Wikipedia green and expanding short articles. –– 𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗗𝘂𝗱𝗲  talk  23:00, 22 August 2021 (UTC) (please use&#32; on reply&#59; thanks!)
 * I like it. My first thought when I read the criteria part for expanding short articles, I wasn't satisfied with it. I thought that would conflict with the criteria for the Stub Barnstar, but not every short article is going to be clasified as a stub though, so it's all good. Jerm (talk) 20:17, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Supporting. I liked it too. Melissadilara (talk) 02:20, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

The Patrol's Barnstar (proposal)
Introduced by Vikipolimer on September 12, 2021.

Hello everyone, I made a new star design and I want to add it to the list. <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 01:52, 12 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Supporting. Looks nice, thanks for the effort. Melissadilara (talk) 02:21, 12 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Support ~Styyx Talk? ^-^ 11:05, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Very nice design. I'm assuming the criteria is based on Recent changes patrol. The only thing I would change though is the title to "The Patrol Barnstar". The current one just sounds awkward. Jerm (talk) 00:55, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi @Jerm, you may know that in many other Wikipedia projects this is referred to as "patrol", I designed it because I think they deserve this star. I'm still open to suggestions :) <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 01:55, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Renewed and created barnstars
Hi all, I've redesigned a few stars and created some, submitting them to the community for consensus. Btw the way @Jerm thanks for some fixes on articles :) Regards.<b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 14:46, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

The version of this barnstar
Hello everyone, I uploaded a svg version of the fashion barnstar, could someone tell me which version (1.0 or 2.0? ) should this barnstar be? thanks. --HFWMan (talk) 01:06, 16 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Hey @HFWMan this is 2.0 and i like it :) <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 04:12, 16 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Ok, Thanks. --HFWMan (talk) 09:31, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Tree of Life Barnstar (proposal)
Introduced by Vikipolimer on September 12, 2021.

The Knight Barnstar (proposal)
Introduced by Vikipolimer on September 12, 2021.

The Technician's Barnstar proposal
Introduced by Vikipolimer on September 12, 2021.
 * Support Very nice design, and I never considered the individuals who helped with maintenance. Good thought on the criteria. Jerm (talk) 20:43, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Civil Parish Barnstar (proposal)
Introduced by Vikipolimer on September 12, 2021.
 * Support I don't know what that object is around the barnstar, but the barnstar is nice. Jerm (talk) 20:55, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

The Ant's Barnstar (proposal)

 * Oppose I don't get the criteria, with or without help, tired or not, people are always improving/expanding articles. I don't see a need for this. Jerm (talk) 18:22, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey @Jerm for your comment, I'm just trying to create some idea, It's good to see your comments here! <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 18:28, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * @Jerm I have an idea, may I redesign this barnstar a Beaver's Barnstar ? "work like a beaver" <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 18:34, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello, you made yet another pretty barnstar. It would be disappointing to discard it. I have a better use for it, convert it to a topical barnstar for those who improve Ant-related articles. WikiProject Insects/ant task force could use a barnstar. Jerm (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * @Jerm May you lead me about this, can you improve this idea on my design, please? <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 18:38, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to improve the design, I don't use SVG files. You've seen my work, I use PNG and 3D clip art when the clip art is available and free of copyright retraints. Jerm (talk) 18:46, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

The Ant's Barnstar (revision)

 * @Jerm can u look this revision :) <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 18:48, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

The Short Description barnstar (proposal)
I am proposing a new barnstar- adding a bunch of short descriptions (or importing from Wikidata) to articles that previously had none (using the short description helper gadget). (add) EthanGaming7640 (talk) 23:26, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * There’s already a Short Description Barnstar. Jerm (talk) 05:59, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks EthanGaming7640 (talk) 16:49, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Please subdivide Topical Barnstars
Please subdivide Topical Barnstars. There's simply too many here, too chaotically arranged, to make it easy to find the one you need.

Among the subcategories I would suggest (based on multiple Topical Barnstars, already listed, that fit each sub-category): ...etc. ~ Penlite (talk) 09:46, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Service to Wikimedia & its community
 * Government & Politics
 * Enterprises (businesses, organizations, institutions)
 * Social & Cultural
 * Religion, Spirituality & Philosophy
 * Arts & Entertainment
 * Science & Technology
 * Health and Safety
 * Some of the barnstar template-pages have topic-specific categories already. I oppose categorizing them on WP:BARN as there are already too many topical barnstars which has caused longer scroll-time. Your ideal will only make navigation more exhausting. Topical barnstars just need to have their own page per my original proposal. Jerm (talk) 21:14, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

template:New barnstar
New barnstar has been nominated for deletion. It looks like boilerplate for creating a new barnstar. Is this used somewhere? Such as in a page creation wizard or skeleton? -- 65.92.246.43 (talk) 06:08, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Project banner
I suggest that this project create a wikiProject Banner (WPBannerMeta), and banner all the barnstars, cookie/coffee/tea, munch/drink templates, so that it can use WP:Article Alerts to keep track of deletion notices for such templates -- 65.92.246.43 (talk) 06:10, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Proposal: Template:The Closer's Barnstar

 * Nice color but the center-icon doesn't really represent closure, even though it has "closed" on it, can't really read it. The pin on the icon also contradicts a closure. Jerm (talk) 21:20, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback ! I've redesigned it, let me know what you think now! –– FormalDude Emojione 1F427.svg talk 02:41, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I like it, much better design. The hammer better symbolizes a closure. Jerm (talk) 13:52, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Question
Are there categories of users with a certain barnstar? Thank you, 184.19.98.82 (talk) 14:45, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No, there is not. Jerm (talk) 15:07, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Splitting topical barnstars
I'm proposing to separate the topical barnstars from WP:BARN. The page has increased, making the scroll time much more slower. There is also the other topical barnstars: Awards by WikiProject that need to be merged. I've been merging and remastering old barnstars, but it has been more slower to navigate WP:BARN because of the amount of barnstars being added. This proposal will move the Topical barnstars to their own page, that way, it will be easier to scroll/navigate WP:BARN. If the proposal is successful, this will leave just the general & Wikipedia-space barnstars on WP:BARN. Jerm (talk) 18:04, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

barnstars
is there a committee where one can nominate an editor to receive a barnstar, for specific actions or items? thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 13:12, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * you can just award one on your own to someone you think deserves it. --awkwafaba (📥) 13:21, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * ok, well how about to myself? --Sm8900 (talk) 13:30, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Proposal: The Glossy Barnstar
The criteria is too vague. What do you mean by “good looking” and “results”? Jerm (talk) 11:52, 16 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Well, I think it's for editors that make good designs. COPPER width  (💬) - (📋) 23:15, 16 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Good designs of what exactly? Jerm (talk) 20:00, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Barnstar creator has been indef-blocked for sockpuppetry and per WP:NOTHERE. --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk  00:54, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Proposal: The Steward's Barnstar
-- Quick Quokka  [talk] 13:59, 8 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Looks too much like File:In The News Barnstar Hires.png. Jerm (talk) 22:24, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for giving me the constructive and needed criticism!
 * Do you have any other ideas for what the steward barnstar could look like 🤔🤔🤔 Quick Quokka  [talk] 13:50, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Replace the globe image with File:Wikimedia steward Icon.svg, or maybe File:Steward icon.png. And change the description to something like "The Steward's Barnstar may be awarded to stewards who tirelessly work to keep Wikimedia wikis blah blah blah" etc. I don't think the admin's barnstar description fits here. —<b style="background:#000;color:#FFF;padding:1px;">GMX</b><b style="color:#000;padding:1px">(on the go!)</b> 20:45, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Good idea. That was just a placeholder until I thought of something. What are some tasks that stewards do?
 * For the Logo, I think I want to use File:Wikimedia steward Icon.svg, but the globe looks ugly because the transparency doesn't really work well, and for the second file you suggested, I think that it's too low quality of a PNG. Quick Quokka  [talk] 04:24, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Here's what I mean
 * Yes, Wikimedia steward Icon is much better, more distinguishable and still recognizable. Jerm (talk) 01:35, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry for not replying for so long, I forgot about this discussion because you forgot to ping me. I still think it doesn't look good because of the transparency. Any idea to fix it? Quick Quokka  [ talk] 13:56, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I don't have any ideas on how to improve the design. I'd just stick on what is recognizable, an in this case, the Wikimedia steward Icon. I'm not too trilled about the Wikimedia steward Icon though. Jerm (talk) 13:10, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Me neither... 🤔 Quick Quokka  [⁠talk • contribs] 13:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Fungi Barnstar
Can we add this barnstar? –– F ormal D ude  talk  06:38, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, and I plan on moving the template to just "The Fungi Barnster" as the "WikiProject" is not really necessary. It was created 26 June 2007, so it goes after the The Classical Barnstar. Jerm (talk) 06:51, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Do Barnstars work on any language Wiki?
Hello, I was hoping to give some editors of Ukrainian wikipedia a barnstar for their efforts reverting vandalism amidst the Russian Invasion of Ukraine. They have a small task force for it due to misinformation attacks likely from Russia. I tried to preview it but it wasn't coded. I would just like to better understand if they have to be created for each wiki. It seemed userboxes worked... FT3 David USN (talk) 14:08, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Proposal: The WNBA Barnstar
I was hoping that this could be a barnstar, because there is plenty of room for expanded coverage, including more articles and more details for already existent articles (i.e. career stats tables). I find it awesome that today's featured article is of Paige Bueckers, who has basically clinched a future career as a WNBA player. Mungo Kitsch  (talk)  01:10, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Linguistics barnstar
Hello, I would like a submit a linguistics barnstar for consideration:

-- NotC hariza rd 🗨 00:15, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Proposal: Indian Space Programs Barnstar
In Wikipedia there are around 50+ articles regarding Indian Space Program, so ultimately lot of Wikipedias contributing regarding the same, so I guess this is good and "spacial" way to thank them :)

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Standing Alone (talk • contribs) 12:18, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Proposal: Great Barnstar of Heraldry
Note that I've never proposed a Barnstar before, and I have no idea if I'm doing this correctly. Apologies for any mistakes. Di (they-them) (talk) 13:55, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

I hope this catches on, though I of course have a vested interest. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 12:01, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * , see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Heraldry_and_vexillology. Judekkan (talk) 15:03, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Third Alternative for the Real-life barnstar
I suggest a third alternative to this barnstar, due to "Real-life" having lots of variation. Here is my suggestion: Thanks. Urban Versis 32KB ⚡ (talk 05:20, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Despite the barnstar title, barnstars still need to be made in accordance to WP:B2G or along those guidlines. There's actually been history of editors just grabbing a photo of an actual place or object and slapping it in a barnstar template and calling it a barnstar but that's not how things are done here. Don't get me wrong, I understand why you would choose a photo of an actual physical barnstar, but the title itself for the barnstar can be a misconception. Judekkan (talk) 20:13, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Real_Life_Barnstar.jpg
 * I understand what you mean and I did take a look at B2G, but despite that, what about the original Real-life barnstar? The barnstar I took a photo of isn't meant to be one of the 2.0 barnstars, but rather an alternative of the original. Urban Versis 32KB ⚡ (talk 20:08, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That was added years ago, before even I started editing, when Wikipedia lacked the many policies and guidelines we have now. Of course, you don't see it on WP:BARN. Maybe sometime in the future, it will probably be removed as an award. Judekkan (talk) 20:34, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, I understand now. Urban Versis 32KB ⚡ (talk 03:02, 12 July 2022 (UTC)