Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards/Archive 7

Red Links Barnstar
I have recently noticed that there are a great number of people who work hard every day to remove the red links in articles (including me), and have also noticed that there is no barnstar for this, and personally I think that this is an important job, and something that many people should be awarded for. For example, the article about Hummelstown, Pennsylvania was completely overwhelmed by red links when I found it, and I worked hard all morning, so now it is red link free. Now, it looks good enough to be a Featured Article! I have no experience creating barnstars, and we really do need a Red Links Barnstar. And if you do make one, feel free to give me one (if you like). --Dogcowsaysmoof | Talk | Sandbox | Barnstar Gallery | Contributions 02:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I just made one (see the image on the right). [[Image:Rlrb.PNG|thumb|Red Link Removal Barnstar]] Neptune 5000 22:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I went ahead and added it to the list of barnstars. Neptune 5000 01:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neptune5000 (talk • contribs)


 * Looks like a nice Barnstar to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:46, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

requests
Could someone make an adopt-a-user barnstar for adopters? Some really deserve it. If,and when, it's completed, tell me on my talk page. Thanks. Me  what do u want?  Your Hancock Please   —Preceding comment was added at 19:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * There is already Adopt-a-User Barnstar. Copied to user talk. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * If there isn't already a "ribbon" to go with a hidden-page barnstar, can somebody do one? (If there is, where can I find it?) Thanx.  TREKphiler   hit me ♠  16:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

BarnStars
Can only admin award BarnStars, or can anyone just award it to whoever they want? I'd think that if anyone could award it, than it would suffer from a lot of vandalism (people awarding them to themselves, etc). Nick4404 yada yada yada 15:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Barnstars can be giving by anyone I do believe, and the honor system or self-policing helps keep the self-awarding in check. ArcAngel (talk) 16:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Why do barnstars have to be substituted?
I'm curious to know why barnstars have to be substituted? Why can't they just be transcluded, since that looks cleaner? Gary King (talk) 16:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If they are transcluded then the display at the receiver will change when the original is edited. This is generally considered bad for something posted to a specific user. See also Template substitution. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Ridiculous Barnstars
Can they be got rid of?

Category: Social sciences and Society (Economics, government & politics, law, royalty & nobility, war)

Why on earth is there a Royalty and Nobility Barnstar? It's reactionary, elitist, and adds to the sociological phenomemon whereby the doings of the members are seen of more import and significance than other members of society. Note the ostentation design of this Barnstar.

Powderfinger Barnstar. A Barnstar dedicated to promoting a single rock band? Also needs to be got rid of. WP would be improved by the removal of this stuff. Centrepull (talk) 14:02, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Like other topical barnstars, The Royalty's Barnstar is given for edits about a topic. The description at Barnstars says: "The Royalty and Nobility Barnstar is awarded to editors who make significant contributions to royalty and nobility related articles that expand Wikipedia’s knowledge about the biographies of people belonging to royalty and/or nobility." The background of the editor doesn't matter. The description should maybe be copied to documentation at The Royalty's Barnstar.

You have misread/misunderstood me. I am complaining about the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:The_Royalty%27s_Barnstar, not the editors. You have not addressed any of my given reasons (above) why this Barnstar should not exist. Centrepull (talk) 08:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The "Bernstar" for edits about Powderfinger does appear narrow for the main Barnstars page. It could be moved to Awards by WikiProject since there is WikiProject Powderfinger. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Can someone move the Powderfinger Barnstar to Awards by WikiProject as suggested, as I don't know how to do this. Centrepull (talk) 08:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * There are lots of barnstars and I don't think the existence of The Royalty and Nobility Barnstar or other topical barnstars implies that the subject is of particular importance compared to other things. Many TV series have their own barnstar at Awards by WikiProject. Lots of royalty and nobility satisfy Notability (people) so it's natural to have many articles about them, like other encyclopedias do. A barnstar could be created for lots of topics with many articles. Barnstars are not part of the encyclopedia and I don't think it's important which topics have a barnstar or how they are designed.
 * The Powderfinger "Bernstar" was removed from the main barnstar page before your post. If somebody adds it to Awards by WikiProject instead then I don't object. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:43, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Strongly oppose. Powderfinger does not have its own WikiProject, so it does not belong on Awards by WikiProject or on the main awards page, since it does not have general applicability. You may place it on Personal user awards. --Eustress (talk) 02:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar creep
I hope I'm not duplicating any previous discussion (which would be ironic considering my concern), but many of the new barnstars seem to duplicate previously existing barnstars. Given that we have the "Cool as a Cucumber Award" and the Barnstar of Good Humor, do we need the Anti-Flame Barnstar, for example? Since we have a Working Man's Barnstar for "those who work tirelessly and endlessly on the more laborious or repetitive of Wikipedia tasks," why is there also an Invisible Barnstar for people who work in the background? The "What a Brilliant Idea" barnstar and the "Red" barnstar seem to be identical, and what's this Content Creativity barnstar? It's for adding content? Don't all editors add content? Maybe I'm being too stodgy, but it seems like a lot of clutter and confusion. Fishal (talk) 20:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I have this impression too, but since these awards are non-serious and "behind-the-scenes" I don't think it is important to fix anything. The one that particularly confuses me is this "special barnstar" that I sometimes see on userpages...what is special about it? Dwr12 (talk) 21:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, if you see any of these duplicate barnstars, I say be bold and remove them from the page and give a good edit summary or put an explanation here. The Special Barnstar, as I understand it, is supposed to be kind of a wild-card, miscellaneous award, which is helpful, but the name is a bit misleading—perhaps replace Special with Potpourri, Miscellaneous, Wild Card, Peculiar, or something along those lines. --Eustress (talk) 22:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That kind of sounds like a general barnstar, which I thought the original barnstar was for. That is why I don't understand it. Dwr12 (talk) 22:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, good point. Well, I wouldn't object to removing the Special Barnstar then. --Eustress (talk) 13:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Naming
Is it me or are the barnstars poorly named? For example I noticed Image:Barnstar-lightbulb3.png is supposed to be the technology barnstar yet it is named as the "What a Brilliant Idea!" Barnstar. What is going on? -- Cat chi? 17:51, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Does it say somewhere it is only supposed to be a technology barnstar? Barnstars says: "This barnstar should be awarded to a user who figures out an elegant solution to a particularly burdensome bottleneck or problem, or who identifies a means to improve Wikipedia in a profound way. Adapted from the technology barnstar." PrimeHunter (talk) 22:38, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "English: The Technology Barnstar may be awarded to an editor who makes particularly fine Technology-related contributions. This award was introduced on March 3, 2005 by brian0918 and ClockworkSoul, and was designed by brian0918. See also Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/Archive1/Technology." (from the image description page)
 * I don't think it's a problem...I like the barnstars that can be used for all subjects better than the subject-specific ones. Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 01:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Just noticed...
That one of the shortcuts here is WP:BS. Me  what do u want?  Your Hancock Please  16:04, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Policeman's Barnstar?

 * I wonder whether it is appropriate to award a Banstar for protecting Wikipedia against Crackpot writing. I know we are to assume Good Faith, nevertheless the reality is that we do get over, and over again such things as Racism. In particular, I know of a Wikipedia who spots such Trash and is able to Revert such writing to its pervious version. I think of him as a kind of Knight (perhaps better than a Policeman) and I would like to award him a Barnstar for his work. Can I get some advice on that?
 * (1)Is calling ovious Crackpot writing a violation of "Assuming Good Faith?"
 * (2)Is it appropriate to award a Wikipedian a Barnstar for his Policing activity (reverting obvious Racist writing, for example)?
 * --Ludvikus (talk) 17:52, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

WP24 Award?
I don't feel that WP24's barnstar should be listed on the page yet as the project does not yet have a general audience—the project doesn't even have any FAs or GAs yet. Any thoughts? --Eustress (talk) 02:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm more concerned that it isn't mentioned at WikiProject 24 and hasn't been awarded. It was added by a member of the WikiProject but that appears to so far be the only connection to the project. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It was added by me. It hasn't been awarded to anyone yet as the project has only been recently re-structured. I'd strongly oppose deletion, if it is to merely be moved to the project space then so be it. I haven't added it to the Wikiproject page yet as I've been rather busy with the Mediation Cabal. I'll do it now and remove it myself. Regarding FA's and GA's, I'd dispute whether the fact we have no FA's or GA's means it doesn't warrant inclusion. There are more complicated things that are going on, but never mind. I'll deal with them as co-ordinator. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 02:24, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd agree that moving the award to the project page for now would be more appropriate. However, as this relates to a more overarching issue and as a member of WP Awards, I feel that some kind of guideline needs to be determined as to which WP awards should be listed on this page and which ones should just be kept within WP homepages. Either all WP awards should be listed here or some kind of bar needs to be set (whether it be number of articles under a WP, number of FAs/GAs, number of participants, etc.). Thanks. --Eustress (talk) 04:34, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposal for new barnstar
I would like to ask for help in creating a Barnstar suitable for award to editors active within WikiProject UK Railways. There are a number of editors who tirelessly patrol pages, create new content and share their expertise of the subject matter in discussions.

Could someone let me know how I go about creating a new award for this project? I'm not that good with graphics, but would have a go! What are the guidelines on image size, colours etc and are there any basic elements that I can use (i.e. the star itself) that already exist?ColourSarge (talk) 23:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Working Womyn barnstar.
The working man's barnstar is redundant, because of the tireless contributor barnstar and the barnstar of diligence.

Aside from that, the gender pronoun looks silly, so I suggest deleting it. &#9775; Zenwhat (talk) 02:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It is years old and has been awarded lots of times. It would probably cause confusion to delete it now and I oppose. The gender can be changed. See the documentation at The Working Man's Barnstar. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar of Peace - what happened?
The image from the Barnstar of Peace has disappeared. What happened? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.234.39.195 (talk) 01:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It hasn't disappeared for me. Barnstarofpeace uses Image:Peace Barnstar 6.png. Is it this you don't see? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It was gone, then came back, and now it's gone again! Very strange. 68.214.72.106 (talk) 00:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

It's there now (6/15) --Alien joe (talk) 20:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow.
I think there are too many of these things, some of them are needless duplicates or for cheesy/superfluous purposes. Like, why have EVERY religion represented as a Barnstar, when a Religion Barnstar could cover them all. And I hope I NEVER get a Barnstar for anything. It's stupid clubhouse crap like handing out awards that makes the world not take Wiki seriously. Whatever happened to just saying "Hey man, you did a great job!"?

Barnstars are totally pointless. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kitsunexus (talk • contribs) 05:57, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Good liar barnstar
Somehow I don't think vandals should receive barnstars, since these are supposed to be rewards and not abuse flags. Thoughts? Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 01:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * This barnstar is completely against Wikipedia guidelines, namely WP:Etiquette. I have reverted it. --Eustress (talk) 01:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Awards Did you get rid of the image, too? Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 01:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The Reference Desk Barnstar has been salvaged to be awarded "to an editor who makes a contribution to the Wikipedia Reference Desks that is exceptionally useful to a person who seeks assistance there" (see WP:Barnstars). However, I nominated the Good Liar Barnstar for deletion (TfD) and invite all to submit their opinions/votes—WP:Templates for deletion. Thanks! --Eustress (talk) 02:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not referring to that barnstar, but the ones mentioned after it in the same topic. They were immediately deleted as well, but do the images and templates still exist? Thanks for your prompt action. Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 12:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about the other ones you're referring to, but frankly, if people want to create their own images and give them to people, that's their prerogative...but I would think the true compliment would come from receiving a bona fide barnstar that is good enough to be listed here. Just my thoughts. I think this page needs a lot more guidance and leadership, but hopefully we can open the dialogue. --Eustress (talk) 12:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Custom pictures are far more impressive, one-of-a-kind awards. ;)  But we should not reward vandalism.  Whoever created that award, what are you trying to do, sabotage Wikipedia?  Hey, he's a strategic vandal!  Quick, get him!  The Transhumanist  04:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

General barnstars
Someone redirected General barnstars here. Won't this mess up anything? Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 16:45, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Which ones are you referring to? I recently moved all code onto each page to make editing more convenient and accessible, leaving the third-party pages as redirects. Have you come across any problems? Thanks. --Eustress (talk) 17:41, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No, but a red flag went up in my mind when I saw the redirect over the original page. Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 18:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay...please specify which original page? Please provide a URL here so I can double-check. --Eustress (talk) 18:58, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia talk:Barnstars/General Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 21:34, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It goes to the appropriate place, the same place Wikipedia talk:Barnstars goes. The Transhumanist  04:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Graphic designer needed
I'm looking for a skilled graphic designer.

I need an image for a non-barnstar Wikipedia award with the theme "World Traveler".

I was thinking perhaps the following image, without the barnstar, and with the globe (or another one) superimposed over the Wikipedia globe (or the Wikipedia globe superimposed over it) - I'd like to see the world's countries and the puzzle pieces (with the continents more prominent).

The image also needs a passport laying on the surface beneath the globe stand (where its shadow is, but the shadow should be retained as well). The image's background must be transparent (not white like the background of the image below).



Is this something you can do?

If so, please contact me on my talk page.

I look forward to your reply. The Transhumanist 04:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

The Harry Potter Star
Can someone correct this ? Do not know how to do this: ... The Harry Potter Star is awardedn to thos that contribute significantly to Harry Potter articles and the Harry Potter Portal.


 * It's a spelling issue: is awarded to those Hope this helps, Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 13:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Has anyone noticed...
that the featured star looks like an actual barnstar, not a star anchor!? Talk about bizarre twists of fate!--Editor510 (talk) 20:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Opinion barnstar
Strangely this seems like a proposal i made a couple of years ago (titled discussion barnstar). Simply south (talk) 09:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I created it when I could not find an appropriate award to give to someone as a thanks for their advice when they did not realize it was being used to make Wikipedia a better place. I would have been happy with a premade barnstar, especially since I am not good at digital graphic design, but wouldn't settle for "barnstar" or "special barnstar".  It didn't fit into any category. It's been awarded a few times now already, and only the first instance was my own. Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 16:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It looks a slightly better design then i did, which now i think is pretty rubbish. It was not a digital design, just paint. Barnstar and award proposals/Archive15 Simply south (talk) 22:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I gotta say yours look just as good as my own. You can see the one I made here, and it's the one on the right.  The one on the left was made by SimpsonsFan08, who was subsequently banned for controlling sockpuppet accounts. Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 13:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar Barnstar !
How about a barnstar given to editors who tirelessly contribute to the creation of good barnstars, and the removal of bad ones ! Machete97 (talk) 11:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Finally, a WikiProject Awards barnstar! Every WikiProject needs one! Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 13:46, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What if I make one from the image to the right? It is supposed to represent the colors of the six main general barnstars (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:AwardAward.JPG for explanation). --Eustress (talk) 02:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The main six? Are you telling me audio is overlooked AGAIN? [wicked grin] Seriously, is a Barnstar Barnstar not a bit... eh... incesteous (for lack of a better word)? As far as I can see the only people who contribute to a healthy barnstar collection are the participants on this project. And the people most likely to receive such a star would be the participants on this project. And the star would be awarded to them by... exactly. In short, I have my doubts. Channel &reg;   22:20, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I certainly hope that if this passes into use that I get one of these! ;) – ClockworkSoul 22:43, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposition: the Audio Barnstar
I've designed an Audio Barnstar. A barnstar for those editors who add high quality audio files to the wiki. (As usual in visually orientated media, audio contributions are a little overlooked.) Unfortunately I don't know how to make templates and such, so if somebody else would be kind enough to add this thing to the Barnstar page and make it work, I'd be most grateful. Channel &reg;  11:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hold on, I think I got it sorted. Channel &reg;   11:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep, it works fine. So, because I was encouraged to be bold and because I think it was long overdue: ladies and gentlemen, I present to you The Audio Barnstar. Channel &reg;   12:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


 * One small problem left: English isn't my first language and I have some difficulty copy-editing the blurb. Basically it's an award for people who create soundfiles for Wikipedia (how a violin sounds, guitar feedback, white noise, vocoder, binaural audio, and other sound examples), upload rare audio files (mainly historical recordings), or add their own, original music (to demonstrate a musical form like a fuge, for example). In short, anything but the usual snippets from commercially released CDs.


 * I have a description up, but it's not too good. If somebody feels the need to copy-edit it, by all means.... Channel &reg;   01:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I think the description is fine and the barnstar is a good idea. The award does look a bit similar to the WikiProject Films/WikiProject Films Award though. If you can differentiate it a bit, that would be best. Thanks. --Eustress (talk) 15:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Audio reels and film reels are both reels so similarity is virtually unavoidable, I think. Although the brown colour of the audio tape is quite different from the black colour of a reel of film. But I see what you mean and I'll try to come up with something to make the star look more audio-ish. Channel &reg;   20:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I made the audio reel a little more prominent (better recognizable) and I added a computer audio waveform to the background. I first considered adding a VU meter or a microphone, but that made the design too crowded and messy. Besides, the waveform is quite a wellknown audio symbol by now. I hope the difference between the Audio Star and the Film Project star is now big enough to prevent confusion. (Is it?) Channel &reg;   22:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks like a winner...great job! --Eustress (talk) 22:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. A job worthy of a barnstar ;-) Channel &reg;   23:07, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Look good?
I am a member of the newly formed WikiProject Chicago Cubs. I have created a requested barnstar for major contributors to the project. Is this one good?


 * I would remove the exclamation point. Also, I'm not sure how a picture of a baseball diamond constitutes a barnstar. When you add the award, be sure to add it under Awards by WikiProject. --Eustress (talk) 15:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


 * To me, unless it has an actual barnstar in it, it is not a Barnstar. That doesn't mean it can't be a WikiProject award, but the name should be changed to reflect that. A baseball barnstar should be pretty easy to create. Take a baseball photo and add a barnstar shape in red stitching, for example (very original). Or, superimpose a baseball over the hole in the star (more traditional look, but much less unique). Or any other thing you can think of incorporating the Barnstar motif. But that's just my opinion, not any sort of policy.
 * Secondly, it would seem prudent to create a single Barnstar for use by all related WikiProjects. Then, the text of the Barnstar (rather than the picture) could be updated to reflect the individual project's name. That would give a more consistent look, while keeping the total number of Barnstars down to a more reasonable number. -- Will  scrlt ( Talk ) 23:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. It was replaced anyhow. Thank you.Wiki Zorro sign 23:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Remove the exclamation point, and include a star shape somewhere.  Also, just by looking at the picture, this could easily represent any baseball team's project, or even a generic baseball project.  Is there any way you could distinguish this from the other baseball teams (without using copyrighted material)? Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 12:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I think that if you are creating a barnstar, use the barnstar design. Maybe you could put it in front of the baseball field image. --Alien joe (talk) 20:55, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Quick query on proposals
Why was the proposals page got rid of\made historic? Simply south (talk) 20:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

An idea
Could a graphic designer make a Reality TV barnstar? Shapiros10 Wuz Here   14:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Is it to be associated with a WikiProject? --Eustress (talk) 15:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't know. Probably WP:TV.   Shapiros10 Wuz Here    15:18, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Filmbarnstar.png
Can this barnstar please be fixed, it is cropped off on the bottom and right side. Thank you in advance. - RoyBoy 23:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You might contact User:Pegship, who was the original uploader of the image and might have the uncropped verson; but maybe another editor has a more efficient idea. --Eustress (talk) 00:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar clusters
There was a time, long ago, when I wanted to award science contributors of note with few or no awards. So I created (with the help of multiple contributors) BarnstarClusters to reward, but more importantly show their skills were broadly recognized by their subject peers. I encourage other subjects to do this. - RoyBoy 03:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

How do I award barnstars?
How do I award barnstars?--Pico del Teide (talk) 16:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * See Barnstars. Do you have a problem with a particular barnstar? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Insert the text found under the column What to type on the article above, and be sure to personalize the message before saving it on the awardee's talk page. --Eustress (talk) 23:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Assesment and Review Barnstar
Hi all. I was looking for a barnstar for users who makes significant contributions to Wikipedia through reviewing and assessing articles and couldn't find one. I would be very grateful to anyone with the skills if they would create such a barnstar. --Burnsie510 (talk) 23:00, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

The peace barnstar?
I noticed the introduction of the Peace barnstar, "to be awarded to users who create articles promoting peace, nonviolence, and tolerance in all it's forms".(See Barnstars). Creating articles promoting peace? Is it just me and my unimaginative mind or does this barnstar really not make a lot of sense? Channel &reg;  13:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't think barnstars should be awarded for promoting anything in articles. Wikipedia should satisfy WP:NPOV and not be used for promotion of any kind. A barnstar for writing about peace, non-violence and tolerance (with no requirements for a certain point of view) might be OK. I have notified the creator of this discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Dudemeister1234 Seriously, I saw a lot stupider barnstars. Don't delete it, whatever you do, because if the general wikipedian-ry does not like it, then it simply will not be awarded. Sorry about deleting that one guy's credit for the barnstar above it, I don't know how that happened. No hard feelings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dudemeister1234 (talk • contribs) 18:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

This just in, I changed it so maybe it will be acceptable.--Dudemeister1234 (talk) 18:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * A few remarks. The fact that you consider other barnstars more stupid is (in my opinion) not a valid argument to keep yours. (See WP:OTHERCRAP, for example). The same goes for "it simply will not be awarded". But again, this is just my opinion. Channel &reg;   22:07, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I know this is an old discussion and realize it might have already been deleted because I have't checked but my vote is Delete  Meis funny  Gab 15:03, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Service Award Ribbon
Ive Created a updated Version of the Service Awards ribbons to look more like the other ribbons. W will upload the rest if asked to.  Electrical  Experiment  19:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC) Imgoing to upload the rest and add them to WP:Ribbons18:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Trans-wikiing
Are you able to transwiki the barnstars? Dagoth Ur, Mad God (talk) 11:39, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes.  E.  E.  16:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar Image
Hello, I Have recently come apon Image:Black barnstar.svg and Belive that it should replace the image for the original Barnstar which is currently Image:Original_Barnstar.png
 * [[Image:Black barnstar.svg|thumb|left|[[:Image:Black barnstar.svg]]]]
 * --  E  E  02:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Replace the Original Barnstar? Why? The Original Barnstar is an icon of Wikipedia and is more similar to star anchors (where "barnstars" came from). I would vote no, but this is a nice looking image and might be used for something else. --Eustress (talk) 19:11, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * While I like this new image, I think there is something to be said for tradition. I don't think that the old barstar images should be changed, but perhaps this image could be incorporated into some new barnstars for specific categories. --Burnsie510 (talk) 20:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybe since it is black, it could be an "Emo" barnstar-for work around emo, goth and similar fashion styles. Shapiros10  contact me My work  23:27, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Theres really no scope for a emo barnstar.  E  E  23:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybe a the New Barnstar. for wikipedians who constantly try make wikipedia through bold ideas.  E  E  23:38, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I still like emo :) Maybe, in this category? Shapiros10  contact me My work  23:47, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * results in
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Main page
I think that there should be a Main Page barnstar, as there are a lot of people who work on that. Thanks, Genius101 Wizard (talk) 22:08, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I created this.


 * results in


 * created by,  E  E  23:49, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot!,Genius101 Wizard (talk) 00:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

New User Barnstar?
Hello all. How 'bout a barnstar specifically for new users? Simply for joining Wikipedia as a new contributing user.. perhaps something to start off their userpage and encourage them to stay and contribute. Is there such a thing already? If not, what do you all think about the idea? Also, is it possible for one to award THEMSELVES with a barnstar? Has this been done by anyone in the past? (Not that I'm considering doing this, just wondering). OlEnglish (talk) 00:45, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Could be a new service award.  E  E  01:01, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There are many personal barnstars out there, i.e. for finding a hidden page. Typically, these are self-awarded. I am unaware of any cases where someone has given themselves a barnstar, although it may be possible for two parties to give the other a half barnstar. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR  04:20, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

The Award Barnstar
I Created the Barnstar for this wikiproject.

 E  E  00:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Awarding oneself
Hypothetical question: Can one award a Barnstar to oneself? Mr.Clown (talk) 15:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)  E  E  17:34, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Service Arards yes
 * Secret/guestbook pages yes
 * other no
 * Can I direct you to this previous discussion // Fi  nns  08:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Home-made Barnstar‎
I knocked this together in an effort to celebrate the home-made individualistic aspect of Wikipedia. It's intended for people who do a lot of work in difficult areas and do it well. Recipients are able to think outside the box, the original intention of the WP:IAR principle, and their interventions are almost, or almost always effective in resolving or progressing difficulties and disputes. It is made from a photo I took on a recent visit to New Hope, Pennsylvania, where almost every house has a barnstar or a star anchor on it. Anyway, I've awarded it to a few people already and I want to see if there is a consensus to adopt it as an "official" award. --John (talk) 02:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

message ~


 * Aww I like this one! I love the star you used! :-) - k|e|n|g  -  t  |  c  - 01:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I saw it and just knew it would make a perfect new award when I took the photo. If nobody objects, I'll be bold and put it on the main page. --John (talk) 03:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * In the absence of any objections I went ahead and added it. --John (talk) 22:05, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Good! We do need to encourage more people to be bold and add things on their own // Fi  nns  11:45, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Replacing an image?
Hey guys, I need your opinion. Someone recently awarded me "The Creator of the Barnstar" award (for creating the "All Around Amazing Barnstar"), and I noticed that the image used needed a little... work. I apologize to whomever made it, but I just don't particularly like the image (left picture). Sorry!!

Anyways, I was bored and fiddling around on Photoshop, and I made a new picture for that barnstar (right picture). I have three questions about this: Does it look okay? Is it okay to change the image of a barnstar made by someone else? And if so, how would I go about doing that? Any help offered would be much appreciated! :-) - k|e|n|g  -  t  |  c  - 02:02, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) Electrical Experiment (talk) 02:25, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Courtesy would be to inform User:Meisfunny, who created it, of this discussion. I do support the new image though, I think it's much better. --John (talk) 03:43, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Decision
Both from the support above, and because of the permission of User:Meisfunny, I will be changing the barnstar image. Thanks for the support!! :-) - k|e|n|g  -  t  |  c  - 17:13, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Wkiproject Religion
I Created The Religion star for Wikiproject religion

Produces

Can I get one
Can I please get a barnstar? I've given out so many and I haven't recieved a kindness one. Can I please get one? Lord of Moria  Talk   Contribs  13:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You might want to put User:Basketball110/Barn on your userpage so editors will be mindful of it. Best --Eustress (talk) 14:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

"Friendly Native" or "Local Explorer" Barnstar
How about a Barnstar for people who contribute information about their local area? I have found that particularly in rural areas there is often few articles and those which do exist are normally short and low in quality. After all, who better to write an article or contribute content about a particular area than the people who live there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Delta-NC (talk • contribs) 12:07, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you give an idea for a design, I'm sure we could arrange something // Fi  nns  08:20, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

New idea
I've noticed that there are some people who encourage other users a lot, maybe with some friendly message on their talk pages, an appreciation of their work, offering advice when needed or even helping other users with something. I think they deserve some recognition for their work, because without them Wikipedia will probably be a lot dull that it is now and editors would feel less inclined to contribute if nobody was there to appreciate their work and encourage them. But there isn't any specific award for such users. (I know the random acts of kindness barnstar is there, but shouldn't there be something more specific, something directly acknowledging their actions?) I can create the barnstar (in fact, I've already made the image) but I wanted to know what others think about this. Shall I create it or not? If it is to be created, can someone suggest a good name for it too? -- Chamal    Talk 14:12, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The Motivator's barnstar?  Serendi pod ous  14:52, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's kind of general isn't it? I thought maybe something especially for them. But I guess that will do if a new one is not really necessary. Chamal    Talk 15:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * How about the "Big Brother/Sister" barnstar?  Serendi pod ous  17:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sure there must be something that can be given in Personal user awards // Fi  nns  18:56, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I think there needs to be a researcher's barnstar
Because I really want to award it to someone.  Serendi <sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod ous  14:52, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Heron Marked Barnstar
I hope there's no objection, but I've added the Heron Marked Barnstar under the topical section, for users who make excellent contributions to Wheel of Time related articles. It would appear thusly:

Thanks. Nutiketaiel (talk) 16:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I doubt there will be any objection to this, well done for being bold // Fi  nns  17:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. :-)  I appreciate the sentiment.  One of these days, maybe I'll earn a barnstar myself.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep up the good work, and I am sure that you will! // Fi  nns  19:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Schools
Countless editors have reverted vandalism, added references, infoboxes, or otherwise improved the 21500+ school articles on Wikipedia, but WikiProject Schools has not had its own barnstar. I would like to propose: Thanks, --Jh12 (talk) 21:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it looks pretty cool. Why not be bold and add it?  Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:36, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the approval! I've gone ahead and created the template and added it to Awards_by_WikiProject. --Jh12 (talk) 15:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Legion Barnstar
I have taken the liberty of adding:

Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Too many barnstars
Does anyone else think that there are too many barnstars? In my opinion, I think wikiproject related barnstars should be kept within their wikiproject portal and not listed on WP:STAR. —— RyanLupin • (talk) 20:26, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree. I think it is valueable to have a single, central location where people can go to look for barnstars.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:40, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

The removal of red links should not be rewarded
I have noticed the recent addition of the Red Link Removal Barnstar and must say that I disagree with rewarding the removal of red links. These links play a very important role facilitating the creation of new articles, and provide an impetus for expansion of the encyclopaedia to useful directions. I do not consider turning off an indicator of lacking coverage something worth bragging about, and it is often counter-productive as well.

A barnstar recognising services against general overlinking would be more worthwhile, in my opinion, but I am not making any suggestions. I'm here to protest against the red-links barnstar, and especially the description accompanying it. Waltham, The Duke of 16:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I was under the impression that the Red Link Barnstar was intended to be awarded to someone who removed red links by creating the associated articles, not by just deleting the links themselves. Nutiketaiel (talk) 16:53, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * :-) --Kim Bruning (talk) 17:01, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I also assumed it was for article creation but if that is really the case then it should say so clearly. It has not been awarded yet and it was created in response to the currently first section on the request of an editor who (without linking it) referred to this edit which removed a lot of links. Special:Contributions/Dogcowsaysmoof shows similar removals at the time and no article creations. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I changed the barnstar's description to make it clearer. Neptune 5000  ( talk ) 18:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, the "either" still implies that a person can or should be awarded simply for deleting links. I propose the following description-  "The Red Link Removal Barnstar may be awarded to editors who show diligence in removing red links in articles by creating new articles, correcting the links to connect to appropriate existing articles or deleting links to articles that should not exist because they do not satisfy Notability guidelines."  I know it's a little cumbersome, but it removes any disambiguity.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:36, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I like that idea. Neptune 5000  ( talk ) 19:41, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, I will plug it in then. Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:04, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me. I have piped "red links" to Red link which has more information about red links. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm glad to see the ambiguity removed; I support the new wording. Thank you all for your input. Waltham, The Duke of 05:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Neptune 5000  ( talk ) 05:46, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject:Virginia Barnstar
Essentially it is the Editor's Barnstar with the Virginia State Seal in the middle. What do you all think? - NeutralHomer  •  Talk  02:41, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks good. Neptune 5000  ( talk ) 05:45, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The seal looks a little... fuzzy. That may be my browser, though.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I did size it down a little. If someone can get the seal to look a little better on the star, please feel free :)  Take Care...  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  22:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Awarding Barnstars to groups of people.
I've only recently taken to perusing the talkpages of articles on Wikipedia in the last two months or so. I recently came across the talk page for the super hero article Talk:Superhero where for the first time I found perhaps the best example of collaborative planning, drafting and decision making. Good discussion, reasoning, goodfaith abound. I think they all deserve a barnstar but I don't know how to award one, let alone one to so many people.

Can anyone help? Thanks. Proberton (talk) 13:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Why not give one to each user, with a message saying that it is for their collaborative work on the article? Even in FAs, people are awarded individual barnstars in recognition for their contributions to improve the article. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  13:59, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The Half Barnstar was designed to be awarded for excellent cooperation; I would recommend that. To award it, type message ~ or message ~ on the talk pages of each of the intended recipients, replacing "message" with the reason why you are giving it.  It seems to have been designed for only two people cooperating, but I'm sure it will work well for these purposes.  I would include the full list of all the people you are awarding it to in each citation.  The barnstar itself can naturally be viewed at WP:BARN.  Does that help?  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:03, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Brilliant! Thanks to you both for your help.Proberton (talk) 10:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup Barnstar
I have created a cleanup barnstar, to be awarded to users who cleanup articles:

Any comments? Neptune 5000 ( talk ) 18:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It's very pretty, but I'm not sure I get it. Is that a fish hook at the bottom of the star?  Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:41, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It's not supposed to be. I changed the image. Neptune 5000  ( talk ) 18:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, a broom, OK. It looks pretty good, but the borders of the star seem a little fuzzy.  I would also recomend putting the broom in front of the star so it is more clear, but that's just a suggestion.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The image should be less fuzzy now. I also put the broom in front of the star. → Neptune 5000 ( talk ) 19:22, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me. :-)  Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:55, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks a bit like the copyedit barnstar to me, because of the broom. But it's fine otherwise. C h a m a l talk work 14:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, it went back to the fishook again... Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:00, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks OK to me. Did you try purging? C h a m a l  talk work 15:16, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * My doctor says purging is unhealthy. Besides, it looks OK now for some reason...  Nutiketaiel (talk) 16:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

ACW Barnstar request
I'd like to have an American Civil War barnstar, but anything I'd like to do would be beyond my resources. I wondered if anyone could develop prototypes. Maybe a variation of the Southern Cross, except with five points? Maybe have a blue star and a gray star clashing? Maybe something else?-- Gen. Bedford his Forest 20:23, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar Proposal
I've recently had my userpage and talk page vandalized a few times, and in three of those cases, users other than myself repaired the damage for me before I noticed it. I thanked them, of course, but it got me to thinking- I know we have The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar, but I think we should have a seperate barnstar for fixing vandalism to someone else's user page. It's one thing to fix damage to the Wikipedia Mainspace or the common areas; it's something else to go out of your way to protect someone else's area. Before I get to work on designing one, though, I just wanted to check up to see if there was any support for such a Barnstar. Comments? Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:48, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds OK to me. C h a m a l  talk work 13:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I think that's a good idea. Neptune 5000  ( talk ) 15:09, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

What do you guys think? Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:05, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks good. Neptune 5000  ( talk ) 17:09, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, why not? C h a m a l  talk work 14:53, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * There is also Vangel. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)