Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women/Archive 12

Naming biographical articles
I recently created Adele Briscoe Looscan. I created this from her first name, maiden name, married name. This was easy because this is the name she used for her by-line in articles. Bearing in mind WP:MoS, any suggestions for a default format? Should I rename this? I have another article which I will release today or tomorrow, so any comments would be appreciated. thanks, Oldsanfelipe (talk) 17:04, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The format to use is the most commonly used form, but is set out in a lot of detail at Naming conventions (people). The form she used in her bylines seems the best choice here. But then we should provide redirects from every other form which is mentioned in the article, or used in any of the sources, or otherwise seems likely. I've added a clutch of redirects to this one. Sometimes, though not this time, creating redirects like that finds a handful of redlinks to turn blue, as when someone is listed in a list of prizewinners under the fullest form of their name. Happy Editing.  Pam  D  18:09, 17 July 2018 (UTC)


 * PamD, Thank you for your assistance. Oldsanfelipe (talk) 21:19, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Domestic violence article -- RfC on NPOV
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Domestic violence? A permalink for it is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Domestic_violence&oldid=851306580#Does_the_article_lend_undue_weight_to_women_as_victims_and/or_their_use_of_self-defense_as_a_reason_for_domestic_violence? here]. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 11:57, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

RfC at Talk:Martha McSally
There is a RfC at the Martha McSally talk page found here that members of this project might be interested in taking part in. -- ψλ  ● ✉ ✓ 01:51, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

WikiConference North America 2018 - Scholarships and Submissions - Closing Soon!:
Proposal submissions and scholarship applications are closing soon for WikiConference North America! Both are due by August 15.

You may submit proposals here. For submissions, we are looking forward to seeing proposals for presentations, workshops, roundtables, panels, and more. We also have an academic peer review track this year.

You may apply for a scholarship here. Scholarship applications are open to Wikimedians who live in North America and actively contribute to a Wikimedia project. Scholarship awards are US$500. The Wiki Education Foundation is also providing their own scholarships for presenters participating in the academic peer review option.

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Visit our website for more information. Thank you! On behalf of the WikiConference North America organizing team, Rosiestep (talk) 17:16, 14 August 2018 (UTC) (Grantee Emeritus)

RD of Aretha Franklin at ITN
Please assist in improving this page to meet ITN standards. The article may need improvement in referencing. --- Coffee  and crumbs  14:58, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Help with updates for Wednesday Martin
Hi all! I'm wondering if any editors from this WikiProject would be interested to help with a request for author Wednesday Martin, seeking to update the Works section for her article. She is best known for her book Primates of Park Avenue and has published some newer works that have not yet been added to the article. My proposed updates include adding a full list of works and a short mention of her new book.

Would anyone from this WikiProject be interested to take a look? In full disclosure: I'm making these suggestions on behalf of Wednesday Martin, as part of my work at Beutler Ink, so I will not make any direct edits to the article myself. Thanks in advance! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 20:04, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Help with my new article about prominent Venture Capitalist?
Hi there, I created a new article here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cyan_Banister

I'm wondering if someone can help make it appear on Wikipedia faster? Thank you!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1Mynamegoeshere1 (talk • contribs) 23:05, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I've added the "Crunchies" award to her bio, and there are several other sources that refer to her unusual background. To ensure the article is not deleted, it would be good to use some of the material about her background to expand it. I'll help as I have time. Cheers! Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 02:17, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Virtual Community Event - Gender Equity Report -- Oct 9th at 1555 UTC
What are the most pressing issues currently facing the Wikimedia movement with respect to advancing gender equity? What strategies are effective for closing the gender gap in content and contributors? What work has already been done? Join us for a community presentation on October 9 to hear how 65 prominent leaders of gender equity projects responded to these and other questions. We'll discuss highlights from the recently published report, Advancing Gender Equity: Conversations with movement leaders, share ways that you can support gender equity projects in your communities, and have space for discussion. For an overview of the project, check out the recent blog post! Event logistics: Hope to see you there! (Sent on behalf of ). --Rosiestep (talk) 23:40, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Date: Tuesday, October 9, 2018
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Global Wikimedia Survey Results 2018
For those interested who may not have participated -

"The report is now published on Meta-Wiki! We asked contributors 170 questions across many different topics like diversity, harassment, paid editing, Wikimedia events and many others.

Read the report or watch the presentation, which is available only in English." LovelyLillith (talk) 00:50, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Check for notability/COI/POV please
Can someone have a look at 2 new articles Vanessa Wruble and MarchOn, thanks In ictu oculi (talk) 08:43, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

HELP NEEDED--Wiki attack on a woman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User_names#Pussycontrol

My username has "pussy" in it and men are attacking me, trying to stop me from editing. Please help me! Pussycontrol (talk) 21:46, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is a collabortive environment. Other editors are politely discussing the appropriateness of your username in light of how it may affect your ablility to work collabortively with others.  It's hard to see how characterizing that discusson the way you have is done in good faith.  Deli nk (talk) 22:26, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

User is now blocked indefinitely. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:39, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Get ready for November with Women in Red!
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:40, 14 October 2018 (UTC) via MassMessaging

AfD
An AfD that may be of interest to the project: Articles for deletion/Naomi Duncan Atsme ✍🏻📧 16:16, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Request for an article
Hi everyone, Firstly, is there a place on the project page for article requests? Secondly, if not, I am requesting an article about Women Divers Hall of Fame. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 19:13, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * - right down your alley, yes? Atsme ✍🏻📧 21:29, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * , . Organisations are not my area of expertise. How do we establish notability for this one? I am getting very little coverage on Google. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 05:25, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I just did a google search and the first 10 pages revealed sources including American Academy of Underwater Sciences, Australian Diver Accreditation Scheme, California Polytechnic State University, DAN, DEMA, NAUI, PADI,  Phycological Society of America, School of Marine and Atmospheric Sciences, Stony Brook University and  TDI/SDI.  Most of these sources did have articles on WP.  Also, the search results included a number of publications such as Dive Mag, Diver Training, Sport Diver and X-Ray.  Therefore, I believe the coverage is good (and better than a lot of articles under the auspices of  WikiProject Underwater diving).  Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 07:38, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

RfC about which version of the nude Rose image to go with at the Titanic (1997 film) article
Opinions are needed on the following: File talk:Kate-winslet titanic movie pencil-drawing.jpg. A permalink for it is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk:Kate-winslet_titanic_movie_pencil-drawing.jpg&oldid=865922230#RfC:_Should_we_use_the_cropped_version_or_the_non-cropped_version? here]. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:10, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Female hysteria merge discussion
Opinions are needed on the following: Talk:Female hysteria. A permalink for it is here. The discussion concerns what to do with the Hysteria article since "hysteria" is not synonymous with "female hysteria," at least in the modern sense. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:51, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Dana Plato
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Dana Plato. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:04, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Community reassessment: Emily Ratajkowski
Emily Ratajkowski, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Trillfendi (talk) 00:49, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Women in Green - 2019 Goals
As a quick update for the new year: in 2018, Women in Green participants submitted a collective total of 27 new GA article nominations about women. For 2019, group members have agreed on two separate goals: (1) submit a collective total of 20 GA article nominations about women and women's works related to suffrage, and (2) submit a collective total of 20 "Wildcard" GA article nominations about women and women's works of any kind. All interested editors are welcome to contribute to these goals and Women in Green as a whole (there is a participant list on the project mainpage!), and the Talk page is open for questions and discussions about the GA nomination/review process. Alanna the Brave (talk) 20:57, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Notable female sociologists lacking a Wikipedia article
While investigating an article for Dr. Susan Myra Kingsbury, I chanced upon the following paper: It specifically mentions certain notable women sociologists who are lacking articles on Wikipedia. Just thought it might be of interest. Thanks. Praemonitus (talk) 18:36, 19 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Glad you found it, ! I cross-posted your comment at Women in Red (the article creation wikiproject). I also want to loop in as I couldn't find a crowd-sourced redlist for sociologists at WikiProject Women in Red/Redlist index; she is the guru (our Librarian in Residence) on this and might have a suggestion for where to add these women sociologists who are lacking articles on Wikipedia. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:46, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * if you want to set up a redlist for sociologists, ping me. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 03:13, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello : Dr. Sonnenfeld already has a list set up -here-. Will that serve? Thanks. Praemonitus (talk) 05:42, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * oh yes! That's super. We can link to it from Women in Red. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:43, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft article for Kathy J. Warden
Hi there! I work for Northrop Grumman, and as part of my work to improve a few Wikipedia articles related to the company, I've drafted a new article about Northrop Grumman's current president and COO, Kathy J. Warden, who will begin her tenure as CEO on January 1, 2019. Here's a link to the draft article --- User:JanAtNorthropGrumman/Kathy J. Warden. I believe she meets Wikipedia's eligibility criteria and I've tried to be neutral and objective here.

The draft summarizes her educational background, career, board service and recognition based on reputable sources. I've disclosed my affiliation with the company on my profile page as well as the draft page. I think WikiProject Women may be interested in this draft. I know I should not make the article live on my own, so are any editors willing to take a look and update the article for me? All feedback is welcome, and thanks! JanAtNorthropGrumman (talk) 17:36, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


 * , ✅. Also, I left you a message on your talkpage. Happy editing! --Rosiestep (talk) 19:19, 5 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you User:Rosiestep for moving the draft article into creation. JanAtNorthropGrumman (talk) 20:19, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Lyen Wong
Could someone from this WikiProject take a look at this and assess it for WP:N? I'm not really finding anything which shows Wong meets WP:BIO of even WP:ATHLETE, but fitness competitors, etc. might not receive the same kind of coverage in more traditional media sources that some other types of athletes often do. There is an article about her on German Wikipedia, but there are no sources cited for that article as well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:50, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Looking for help
Hi,

I was looking for some small help. I created a new article en:Kithaab-a play about women rights issues- which has been copy edited and is ready for translation in various languages. Looking for your possible help in translating the article en:Kithaab to your language. If you are unable to spare time yourself then may be you like to refer the same to some other translator.

Thanking you, with warm regards

Bookku (talk) 10:01, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

List of 2019 Women's March locations
Editors are invited to help add sourcing to List of 2019 Women's March locations. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Discussion re: lead image at Woman
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Woman. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Levivich  04:50, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Village pump (idea lab)
You are invited to join the discussion at Village pump (idea lab). We are designing a bot to do auto-assessment (among other tasks) and would appreciate your feedback. Qzekrom (talk) 01:27, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

#WIKI4WOMEN March 8 2019 UNESCO initiative
Hello, WikiProject Women. I just found out about the #WIKI4WOMEN initiative by UNESCO for International Women's Day, 8 March 2019. I'm not affiliated with the initiative - I used to work for the UN and still try to keep an eye on their virtual volunteering-related initiatives. UNESCO is recruiting volunteers around the globe "to take a few minutes of their time to create, enrich or translate, in as many languages as possible, Wikipedia profiles of women committed in the fields of education, science, culture, social and human sciences, or communication and information." The official UNESCO page for the campaign is REALLY lacking in guidance for participants - I think members of the WikiProject Women project could help oh-so-much. In fact, when I posted about the campaign on the TechSoup forum, I linked to your excellent material as guidance. Hope your leadership can reach out and help make this campaign even better. Also, thrilled to have found you myself. -- (Jcravens42) (Jcravens42 talk) 21:05, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Françoise Moréchand
I've already asked about this article at WT:JAPAN, but I figured I'd ask about it here as well as. My guess is that Moréchand is most likely Wikipedia notable per WP:BIO and WP:NEXIST, but that article is general is not very good shape. Much of this is due to a recent spurt of editing by a well-meaning but new editor who most likely is not very familiar with MOS:MOS, etc. So, I'm wondering if anyone from WP:WOMEN would like to help with the clean up. There are formatting and layout issues which probably be adddressed fairly easily, but weeding out the unsourced and POV content per WP:BLP and WP:NPOV, etc. probably requires a little more thought. The article isn't listed under the scope of WP:WOMEN, but I'm pretty sure that it should be which is why I'm asking about it here. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:43, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Requested move: Chairman → Chair (officer)
Hello, there is an RM discussion you may be interested in:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chairman#Requested_move_22_March_2019

Any input would be appreciated. Wandering Wanda (they/them) (t/c) 01:08, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!
A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.
 * – Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Contradiction between two articles
The Feminist separatism article and the Radical lesbianism article make different claims about the origin of Radical lesbianism. Your feedback is requested at Talk:Feminist separatism. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 07:35, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Daniella van Graas up for deletion
Subject has appeared on many magazine covers and appeared in many mainstream movies and television. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 11:48, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

May you join this month's editathons from WiR!
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:16, 27 April 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

WP:WOMEN or WP:WOMSCI?
I am really confused on the best practices for assessing articles about women. I have started working on the WOMSCI unassessed backlog and I have found some articles which are already added to WP:WOMEN. My gut says to always add to the more specific project, and I have never added WP:WOMEN when I knew of a more specific project (which would also include art, writers, etc). What should I be doing? I really want to help, not hurt! Prometheus720 (talk) 16:00, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

WP:NSPORTS and Softball
There is an open discussion about the possibility of adding a notability guideline for women's softball players to NSPORTS; please see Wikipedia talk:Notability (sports). Thanks, Ejgreen77 (talk) 21:22, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Notification of Deletion Discussion
WP:WikiProject Men is currently up for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Men. StudiesWorld (talk) 09:55, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Barnstar
Greetings! I've suggested at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards that there should be a topic-specific barnstar for editors who have done great work in reducing systemic bias on Wikipedia specifically by increasing the number and visibility of articles about women and women's topics. I realise there is a barnstar for the Women In Red project, but my suggestion is for a broader-based award which also recognises those who have expanded existing articles. My design, at present, looks something like this, but I would definitely welcome input at the above talk page from people on this project. Hope this meets with your approval, Grutness... wha?   11:57, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Stop the Bans
Project members are invited to help expand the Stop the Bans stub. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:29, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Lesbian erasure
Hoping to encourage someone to create an article or a section about this topic. For further details on the current situation, please see Talk:Lesbian erasure. Mathglot (talk) 20:36, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

June events with WIR
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:41, 22 May 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Elizabeth L. Gardner up for deletion
Women Airforce Service Pilots. WW II pilot. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 11:47, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Adele for deletion (2nd nomination)
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Adele is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adele (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 01:01, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Kelly Gould up for deletion

 * Child star who is subject to a notability challenges. Shouild she always be notable? Are there sources where there is more than a passing mention of the subject?  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎</b>) 21:11, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Child star who is subject to a notability challenges. Shouild she always be notable? Are there sources where there is more than a passing mention of the subject?  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:11, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Child star who is subject to a notability challenges. Shouild she always be notable? Are there sources where there is more than a passing mention of the subject?  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:11, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of List of ACM-W chapters for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of ACM-W chapters is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of ACM-W chapters until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Cypherquest (talk) 12:51, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

July events from Women in Red!
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:39, 25 June 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Should redirects from Women in Foo country to Women rights in Foo country be deleted?
Looking at Women in Asia template (not transcludable, click and expand it here: Women_in_South_Korea) I see a number of redirects like Women's rights in Afghanistan redirected from Women in Afghanistan (I recommend the gadget that colors redirects as green). Are those redirects helpful or not? Being a fan of WP:RED, I'd rather delete them to people are more likely to consider proper overviews like Women in the United States. Any thoughts before a mass RfD? --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:03, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * from a writer's standpoint, (I love that gadget) I can see that you would use women in Foo or Foo women far more often that Women's rights in Foo. For example, comparing the rights of women in Foo to those of women in Woo... In this case, I don't feel strongly about it, but I do often find it frustrating to not be able to locate a link because someone has not added a redirect for a commonly used alt name, former name, etc. SusunW (talk) 04:36, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 * and : I think we should view this first and foremost from the point of view of outside users wanting information about women in Afghanistan, etc. As there is not yet an article titled Women in Afghanistan in English, it seems to me a good idea to have a redirect. One of these days, I hope someone will create an article specifically on the more general Women in Afghanistan. There's already quite a richly-sourced article in Portuguese: Mulheres no Afeganistão which could serve as a basis. Maybe this should be posted at WP:Women in Red.--Ipigott (talk) 14:08, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Suggestion
I'll plonk this here, and the reactions will tell me if I am in the right place. Six female RAF members were awarded the Military Medal during world war two. The MM was awarded to non commissioned service people for "acts of gallantry and devotion to duty under fire." In other words -- bravery. Quite a meritorious achievement, but see nothing about them on Wiki. Is there anyone interested in writing articles about them? This might be a good place to start.Moriori (talk) 23:39, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 * hi, this sounds great, i don't want to put a dampener on this, but (here we go coola!:), whomever takes this on board will need lots of strong (ie. indepth) references, including ones that probably discuss them outside of this amazing achievement, as there will be issues around whether this medal is a high enough honour to meet wikinotability requirements. i see at the wikiarticle on this medal that there have been almost 140th awarded, and at medal ranks that it is a 3rd level medal so does not meet WP:MILPERSON (that requires top level or multiple 2nd levels), it could be argued that as only a few hundred recipients were women that it is wikisignificant (of course if any also received bars reckon they should be okay), anyway hope everything goes well with this. Coolabahapple (talk) 05:51, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Editor assistance at Kim Echlin article
Hello! An editor has requested assistance with developing her article so that it incorporates new sources and information. There is a lot of promising material here, but the draft needs some TLC in order to be brought up to BLP standards. Was hoping there might be some editors here who might be willing to have a go at it. Any assistance would be most appreciated. Thank you! Spintendo 04:58, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Margaret Borland
Congrats! Today I went to look up a woman I read an article about and I went to wikipedia to read more. There was no article for the woman I had just learned about, despite her being referenced on other wiki pages, no one bothered to create one for her so I just added a page for the first time ever today but it needs some help if anyone is more talented than I! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Borland?markasread=166389873&markasreadwiki=enwiki Smitty1028 (talk) 02:30, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey good job bro! Next time, consider writing an article in your own words, rather than cut-and-paste everything from a copyrighted blog post, OK? Elizium23 (talk) 02:37, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Solome Bossa duplicates Solomy Balungi Bossa
FYI duplicates -- 70.51.201.106 (talk) 03:13, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Your thoughts about community health
Some of you may know that I am a member of the Wikimedia movement strategy Community Health Working Group(CHWG). It is one of nine Working Groups (WG) involved in developing recommendations to the WMF Board of Trustees regarding planning for the future. In order to make informed recommendations, we seek the opinions of editors. Here's a link to the survey. No need to respond here stating whether you've completed it or not... I just hope that you make the time to do it. Thanks in advance. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Wording of Woman article's lead
A conversation which may be of interest to this WikiProject:

Talk:Woman

WanderingWanda (talk) 19:42, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * There is now an RfC about this: Talk:Woman


 * WanderingWanda (talk) 02:21, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * WanderingWanda (talk) 02:21, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Linkage+Findability
(copied from WikiProject Women in Red/Ideas)

Following up on Twitter conversations, I'd like to suggest something unique: making one of our events focus on Linkage+Findability. This event would encourage Women in Red enthusiasts to add (a) categories, (b) wikilinks, (c) external links to existing articles within the scope of our project, and/or (d) wikilink a woman's biography to another page(s). I think it would be interesting to view the Outcomes section of such an event page. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:25, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I love this idea a lot!! I think it works in the scope of the whole WikiProject Women. If we did this, we could really try to incorporate the other daughter projects. Or, just spinning off ideas, we could make this a biannual thing to specifically focus on the WiR articles made so far through the year. Sbbarker19 (talk) 14:28, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Cool, ! Maybe for the Outcomes section of the meetup page, we could list the articles whose linkage we improved, with a key indicating what we improved: +cats (added categories), +wls (added wikilinks within the article), +wls/other (added wikilinks in other articles pointing to this one). Or something like this. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:51, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * i'm totally on board! we could tell the folks at biography maintenance, WP categories, WP stub sorting, WP wikify, and integrate! i bet some of them would like a specific project. Sbbarker19 (talk) 15:55, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * yes! Getting more people involved would be so helpful! --Rosiestep (talk) 16:13, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Agree with what SusunW said. Note, if consensus feels that including a Linkage+Findability event is one too many for August, we could consider moving it to December and making it an "Annual" event. On the other hand, we could consider making it a monthly event, as it would be a good way for newbies to be involved and "get their feet wet". --Rosiestep (talk) 15:28, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I like Linkage+Findability as an on-going event like 1day1woman or suffrage. It clearly addresses a gap in incorporating women's articles in the encyclopedia. Maybe we announce it as a new continuous initiative aimed with that goal in mind? SusunW (talk) 15:32, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I think making linkage an ongoing initative would be useful regardless of the theme of the month, like when we focused on adding photos for visibility in the infoboxes. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 17:31, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Could we include two more aspects of "findability"?
 * (a) Making redirects from plausible other names - eg with/without middle name, use of married/birth surname, any form seen in any of the sources used. And then doing "what links here" in case there's then any cleanup needed, eg if your 19th century poet shares a name with a redlinked 21st century tennis player once you remove her middle name!
 * (b) Adding her to the surname article/list, or dab page, or making a redirect or hatnote ... One way or another making her findable by surname. Some editors would say we need to do the same for forenames but I can't feel much enthusiasm for that: is a reader really likely to look for a woman by her given name alone, unless she's a saint, goddess, or mononymic musician? Whereas writers, academics, etc are often referred to by surname ("the early work of Bloggs and Whatsit in the field ... Thingummys theory of ..., etc).
 * I don't know how we could easily quantify this work, nor avoid duplication of effort by sharing it around. Pam  D  20:47, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I think there's a lot of enthusiasm for this initiative, but it's more aligned with "WikiProject Women" than with "WikiProject Women in Red". How about copying/moving the discussion to that talkpage? --Rosiestep (talk) 14:18, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't mind moving the discussion there, as long as it's incorporated here ;) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 17:15, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * we're all volunteers around here, so if you want to take the lead on sorting this out -here, or on the Women in Red talkpage, or on the Wikiproject Women talkpage- that's great. Go for it. Sorry that I have to duck out now; I'm leaving on international travel. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:51, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I meant i don't mind if the discussion is moved there, i mispoke lol. pinging for comments. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:56, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

List of American film actresses
There was some discussion on the talk page (and at WT:FILM) about whether or not this list should be highlighting actresses over the age of 80. It might benefit from a few fresh eyes if anyone has any thoughts. PC78 (talk) 18:12, 25 July 2019 (UTC)