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Scope suggestion
Would anyone be opposed to me editing the listed scope to change "women songwriters" to "women songwriters and composers" and "women singers" to "women musicians"? Alternatively, could change "women singers" to "women singers and instrumentalists." Jmertel23 (talk) 12:52, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm going to go ahead with this change now. Thanks! Jmertel23 (talk) 15:42, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Task force of WikiProject Women?
Just floating the idea... how do editors feel about making this project a task force of WikiProject Women? If members prefer to keep as a standalone project, no worries, just wondering if the consolidation might make sense. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:38, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Project name
Why is this project's name using "in Music" when the relevant article is called Women in music? I can see no reason to use caps. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:06, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 * PS: I notice there are 3 pages in Category:Project-Class Women in music articles that use lower case, and none, apart from this one, using upper case. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:09, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Further, Template:WikiProject Women in music uses lower case. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:18, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Female musicians and luthiers
Hi all. I've created the following previously missing pages:

Musicians

 * Maya Youssef
 * Alice Mary Jelaska
 * Negar Bouban
 * Djanan Turan
 * Marina Toshich
 * Shuhrat Razzaqov
 * Fatemeh Deghani

Luthiers

 * Meredith Coloma
 * Emily Alice Shaw

I'd be most grateful if you could help me to make them grow and I'll keep creating more since these are areas I'm interested in.

Regards, Jo Dusepo (talk) 11:40, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Missing articles
It would be useful if the project could come up with a list of missing articles, particularly for classical music.--Ipigott (talk) 14:44, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

---Sounds good. -- Happypillsjr ✉ 15:50, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

How about this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Missing_articles_by_dictionary/International_encyclopedia_of_women_composers

T. E. Meeks (talk) 17:32, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Unassessed articles
I see that about two thirds of the WP Women in Music articles have not been assessed. Perhaps some of the project's participants could devote part of their editing time to assessment. I try to help out myself whenever I come across a talk page including Women in Music. Today there are 	21,815 unassessed articles. Let's see how we progress over the coming months.--Ipigott (talk) 09:36, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Jade Bird DOB
Hey all, I'm trying to see if I can push this article as close to GA as possible and using Lorde as a guide. There are plenty of good sources out there and I can reckon I can do it. Only issue I've come across so far is, like a lot of BLPs I've seen, it's hard to find a reliable source for her date of birth. Does anyone have any tips? Thanks Spiderone  18:28, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Assessment chart needs a look-over
Could someone take a look at the Asessing importance section? It seems like it was originally copied from the Women Writers WikiProject, and wasn't fully changed (the examples were all of writers, not music-related). I edited it and added examples based off of already-assessed articles, but I'm not super familiar with assessing for this WikiProject. Thanks! - Whisperjanes (talk) 18:52, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Nicole (German Singer)
I've spent the last few days expanding the Nicole article. I've rewritten most of it and added some tables for her discography. Any feedback would be welcome. Up until a few days ago, I've mostly only done small edits on Wikipedia. GravityIsForSuckers (talk) 18:06, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Kristle Murden
Would someone from this WikiProject take a look at Kristle Murden, assess it, and also see if they can help out the subject of the article at Talk:Kristle Murden? Thanks. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:50, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hùg Air A' Bhonaid Mhòir
Can we get help fixing this song's stub? Bearian (talk) 21:30, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

"all-female" bands
A new editor has made edits to a handful of articles (" all-female band"), pointing out in the edit summaries So an all-male band is just described as a "band," but an all-female band is an "all-female band"? I'd never really noticed that issue before, but now that has pointed it out, I agree. Thoughts? Schazjmd  (talk)  16:17, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Red links on List of female electronic musicians

 * List of female electronic musicians


 * Veronica Avola
 * Delia Gonzalez (musician) (Gavilán Rayna Russom)
 * Poupeta Lappa
 * Isabelle Powaga
 * Agnes P. Szekeres


 * P.S.: Needs CleanUp: Suzanne Ciani .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 18:24, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Rising Appalachia
I think this article is at least within range of something that could be improved to GA status. I've only submitted one article to GA (Last Exit on Brooklyn), years ago, when I believe the standards were lower, so I could use some other eyes/editors on the article... Skyerise (talk) 21:09, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

New Article: The Bisserov Sisters
I translated the article from Bulgarian Wikipedia, but it could use better sourcing. Skyerise (talk) 19:08, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Baby Queen article
The article on Baby Queen has been expanded by more than 2000 words in the last few weeks, would anyone be able to give feedback / update it from stub class? Lornaliq (talk) 08:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

The Pinkprint has an RFC
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Danielle Nicole
Does anyone know why Danielle Nicole has an italicized title? WP:ITALICTITLE doesn't seem applicable and I can't think of any other reason why this might've been done. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:00, 17 March 2022 (UTC)


 * It was caused by the Infobox album template present at the "Danielle Nicole  (EP)" section. That template automatically italicizes titles of articles where it's used. I've just fixed this by adding the parameter "|italic_title=no" to said infobox. Victor Lopes  Fala! • C 21:06, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you . — Marchjuly (talk) 22:27, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft review request
I submitted Draft:DeVita (singer) 3 weeks ago but it hasn't been reviewed yet. Can anyone review it? Thank you. 수행평가 (talk) 14:57, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

KAINA
I recently created an article for the musician KAINA. Any help would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 13:41, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

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Olivia Newton-John has an RFC
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Article on Female Composer Suggested for Deletion
I’d appreciate your opinion on whether this article should be deleted:

Articles for deletion/Miriam Shatal

Thanks!

T. E. Meeks (talk) 19:03, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

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Olivia Newton-John
Hi, there are a number of sourcing issues keeping Olivia Newton-John appearing on the main page. Please see the discussion here. Any help with sourcing some of the tours and television sections would be much appreciated by all those wanting to see this posted. Best wishes Polyamorph (talk) 17:43, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

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Women in hip hop music
I saw last year there had been some talk about turning WP:WikiProject Women in hip hop music into a sub project or "task force" of this WikiProject, and I would be on board with that. Is there a formal process for doing this that anyone would like to enlighten me about? -- VersaceSpace  🌃 21:57, 2 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @VersaceSpace You might try posting a request for help at WikiProject Council, though I should say my request to convert WikiProject Public Art into a task force of WikiProject Visual arts has gone unanswered. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:01, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * do you think we could do it without them? I created the WikiProject without their "guidance". — VersaceSpace  🌃 16:01, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * An editor replied here with a link to these steps: WikiProject_Council/Guide/Task_forces. Seems a bit too complicated for me... I had assumed the process required some admin intervention. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:03, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That...seems like a lot. I'm not really sure what any of that means. I'd be willing to figure it out however if the WIM project agrees that we could be a task force of you guys. — VersaceSpace  🌃 19:09, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Alice Di Micele


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Good Article Editathon event in October 2022
 Hello WikiProject Women in Music:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a  month-long Good Article Editathon event in October 2022!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2022, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) editathon event – Wildcard Edition! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to any and all women and women's works during the event period. Want to improve an article about a Bollywood actress? Go for it. A pioneering female scientist? Absolutely. An award-winning autobiography by a woman? Yes! GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to receive a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there! Goldsztajn (talk) 01:19, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

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Petite Meller (singer)
Hello, WikiProject Women in Music,

I wasn't sure where to take my concerns about this article but it might fit into your interests here. I was looking into the edits of some recently discovered sockpuppets and found they had both done some work on this article. I don't know if I'd call this article promotional but it reads like a fan page, going into intricate, unnecessary detail about this artist's process and inspiration. I also question her notability as on first glance, it doesn't look like she has had much success with her career. But I'm reluctant to nominate this article for deletion as I know there are separate notability standards for musicians and I'm not sure whether or not she meets them.

So, maybe this article needs severe pruning or maybe it should be nominated for deletion, I'm not sure but I'm hoping since she falls into the focus area of this WikiProject, someone here might take a minute or two to review this article and either improve it (by cutting out extraneous content) or tag it for deletion. There also might be some paid editing involved but I'm not sure how to distinguish that from the general overly positive coverage of this artist. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Liz Read! Talk! 23:53, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Monkey Gone to Heaven
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Alis Lesley on cover of new Bob Dylan book
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Removal of artists under this project
Heya, sorry if this isnt the right place for this, but ive noticed at least one artist who is under the scope of this project who no longer identifies as a woman. is there a protocol for removing it or can i just remove it and cite the article stating they ID as a man now? sorry - am new to this and dont want to make mistakes 3cubedis27 (talk) 3cubedis27 (talk) 12:07, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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Georgina Baillie Request for comments
There is an RfC regarding the Georgina Baillie article that may (or may not) be of interest members of this WikiProject. Netherzone (talk) 17:39, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Collaboration of the month?
Curious, are project members interested in having a collaboration of the month? We can all work together to improve a Wikipedia article related to Women in Music each month. Hopefully we could even promote articles to quality status. For many of the musicians and works, there's not an overwhelming amount of coverage, so I could see us having success expanding them to GA quality. Sunrise In Brooklyn ✉ 13:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass WPBannerMeta a new custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:36, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Input request
Members may wish to comment here as several women in music have been the recipient of this award. The outcome could also impact other categories on awards in the arts by setting a precedent. All opinions welcome. See Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 1.4meter4 (talk) 19:20, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Kim Kuzma
Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at Kim Kuzma? It appears to have been unsourced since it was created, and right now it's technically eligible for WP:BLPPROD. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:14, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Requested input on Talk:Janelle Monáe
There's a discussion on Talk:Janelle Monáe about whether to change Monáe's pronouns, in the article, to they/them (the pronouns currently used are she/her) and if Monáe's choice of pronoun order should impact the pronouns used in the biography article. Historyday01 (talk) 21:22, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Input request on Talk:Coco Lee
The biography appears imbalanced in light of ongoing controversies. Reports of her husband's infidelity are covered much less compared to a workplace incident being prematurely connected to her health issues and death. Inputs would be appreciated on the article's talk page. Vacosea (talk) 13:28, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Vital articles/Level/5 add/remove participation
At Wikipedia talk:Vital articles/Level/5 we need some input on the following discussions to


 * Add Dua Lipa - 3 Grammys, 2 Multi-platinum albums, 9 #1 singles as lead artist
 * Add Paula Abdul 1 Grammy, 2 Emmys, 2 Multi-platinum albums, 3 #1 singles as lead artist
 * Remove Demi Lovato 0 Grammys, 0 Multi-platinum albums, 0 #1 singles as lead artist
 * Remove Carly Rae Jepsen 0 Grammys, 0 Multi-platinum albums, 2 #1 singles as lead artist

Please drop in and contribute to the decisions.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:20, 23 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Also notice a more complicated Add/Remove involving
 * Add Faith Hill - 5 Grammys, 6 multiplatinum albums, 14 #1 singles as lead and 3 more as featured -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:15, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for It's All Coming Back to Me Now
It's All Coming Back to Me Now has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster  (chat!)  09:33, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:The Beekeeper
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:The Beekeeper that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:09, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Content dispute at Talk:The Eras Tour
There is a discussion currently going on at Talk:The Eras Tour regarding a statement about the tour. The discussion can found at Talk:The Eras Tour. Thanks. HorrorLover555 (talk) 12:17, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Lio
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lio that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:50, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Move discussion notifications?
This project used to get tons of move discussion notifications. I found them helpful, but the notifications seem to have disappeared. Does anyone know what changed? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:20, 23 October 2023 (UTC)


 * WikiProject Women in Music/Article alerts is being updated regularly &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:53, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:27, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Discussion on talk page of article Nightwish
There is a discussion that has started on the talk page of Nightwish regarding if the band's upcoming touring hiatus should be referred to as either "hiatus" or "touring hiatus", and may be of interest for the members of this WikiProject. The discussion can be found at Talk:Nightwish. HorrorLover555 (talk) 00:41, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

RfC at Yes, And?
There is an RfC going on at Talk:Yes, And? that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.--NØ 14:46, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Lisa (South Korean singer)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lisa (South Korean singer) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:31, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Lisa (South Korean singer)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lisa (South Korean singer) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 15:24, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Help with Draft:Growing Up (The Linda Lindas album)
Dear members of WP:Women in music,

I have a draft I have been working on (linked in title), and I'm not sure how well it's going. It looks good to me, I just need to revise it and add more to the "Background" and "Critical reception" sections. Could I have any advice or help with the page before it is reviewed?

Thanks, ΛΣ (talk) 23:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Friday (Rebecca Black song)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Friday (Rebecca Black song) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Векочел (talk) 12:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Madonna
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Madonna that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 11:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Wife ((G)I-dle song)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Wife ((G)I-dle song) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.  98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂  •  [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]   04:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Swiss (and other countries) women composers
Recently, an editor has been moving my articles from (for example) “Swiss women composers” to “Swiss composers.” Are we no longer using “[country] women composers” as a category? Is there a list of approved or active categories? I would appreciate information/input about this. Thanks -

T. E. Meeks (talk) 13:13, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Pia Pounds
Perhaps someone from this WikiProject could take a look at Pia Pounds? It was a bit of a mess with all kinds of formatting and syntax errors that I tried to clean up. It also had lots of puffery and other promotional stuff that was unsourced. There might have been some COI editing going on as well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 15:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)