Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women writers/Archive 3

Patricia McKissack
Hi, i have been creating little articles on Patricia McKissack's books over the last couple of months, so i was saddened to see that she recently died. She was an amazing African American author, having written (some with her husband, Fredrick McKissack (also deceased), another creative force) over 100 picture books, novels, and non-fiction books. i'm still adding other books but with the redlinked books in her wp bio have been unable to find enough (3+) sources to comfortably avoid afd, if anybody can assist with them that would be great, thanks. ps. i am also leaving this message with child lit project. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:21, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

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Women children's writers
Hi - If you have time/inclination, would you please create two more categories -  and  - and use AWB to populate them with the appropriate articles which are currently in  so that this cat decreases in size from >1,000 articles? If you think it worthwhile to create additional subcats, e.g. French, Canadian, etc., please go for it! Thanks! --Rosiestep (talk) 16:28, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * No promises. I'll try to when I have a moment...whenever that may be. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:33, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * American, British, and Canadian created and populated. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:33, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * , fantastic! Thank you! --Rosiestep (talk) 05:43, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * , Hooray!!!!! now i know why my watchlist is being inundated by your name Coolabahapple (talk) 09:24, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * If/When you have some more time,, would you please do one more, ? Thank you! --Rosiestep (talk) 15:53, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:31, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Question
Is there a bot or some other form of alerting the project (besides editor's commenting) about BLPs at AfD, such as Articles for deletion/Elizabeth Esther which is on its last round for discussion? Atsme 📞📧 11:52, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . Yes; it is here. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:53, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Ahhh...ok, thankyou - so if there is an AfD in process, and notification for WPW is not showing up on the list of having been notified by the BOT, would I be correct in listing it under "Requests"? Atsme 📞📧 16:58, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * , sounds fine with me. Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:02, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Quick analysis of historical content coverage about women writers
Hey folks! Rosiestep asked me to replicate an analysis I did for WikiProject Women scientists that explored the history content coverage gaps for this WikiProject. I've finally got the figures uploaded to commons and so I'd like to share them here:



My general impressions are as follows:
 * There used to be a gap between the coverage across Wikipedia and coverage of women writers
 * That gap has closed and turned into a surplus (woot!) There seems to be an inflection point around the end of 2010/beginning of 2011.
 * The primary changes responsible for closing that gap is the production of Start and C-class articles bout women writers -- however it looks like the proportion of FA-class articles continues to lag behind the rest of the wiki. This was something we saw with WikiProject Women scientists too.

Keilana told me that she thinks the reason that FA's seem to lag behind the rest of the wiki is because of historical inequalities with regards to coverage of women in cite-able documents.

If you want more details about how this measurement works (and some serious discussion of limitations), see the the paper that I'll be presenting at OpenSym'17 next week. I hope this is interesting to y'all. :D --EpochFail  (talk • contribs) 15:45, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I TOLD YOU SO. (Thanks EpochFail!) Keilana (talk) 18:28, 16 August 2017 (UTC)


 * OMG, thank you ! This is incredibly good news and validates our work., there will be champagne with dinner! --Rosiestep (talk) 19:55, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

September 2017 at Women in Red
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Ruby Karp
Ruby Karp is a recently created article. Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at it and assessing it? -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:30, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Cento vergilianus de laudibus Christi FAN
A month or so ago, I nominated the Latin poem Cento vergilianus de laudibus Christi at FAN. The work is unique and pertinent to this project for a number of reasons, namely that it might be the first Christian poem written by a women, as well as the the first work by a women to have been printed and disseminated via the printing press. If anyone would be so kind as to drop by the candidate page and offering some comments/suggestions, I'd greatly appreciate it!-- Gen. Quon   (Talk)   16:12, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Seeking reviewers for Natacha Rambova article
Hello all, I've recently done significant work on the Natacha Rambova article, and I frankly feel it is at Featured article status at this point. I am trying to get it there so that it can potentially make it to "Featured article of the day" for January 19 (her birthdate). It is currently unranked, but I have nominated it for GA status and would love it if anyone would be interested in doing a review. She is a fascinating topic whose earlier Wiki did not do her justice. Thank you! --Drown Soda (talk) 05:28, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

I think the lead is far too long. Its first paragraph would do fine. A lead is simply there to summarize a page attractively, so that people can decide quickly if they're in the right place. The remaining information in pars 2, 3 and 4 would be better incorporated into the main text, where it could be referenced and integrated with the later information. Interesting subject, certainly. Bmcln1 (talk) 08:42, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject
Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Women_writers

Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.&mdash; Rod talk 20:16, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Josephine Butler
You are invited to comment at Talk:Josephine Butler where there's an issue about naming; the article (which is currently a FA) refers to its female subject by her first name throughout "for simplicity". Any input is welcome. --John (talk) 18:27, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Works by Susan Sontag navbox
I'd like to propose a navbox collecting Sontag's works. It could also be a "Susan Sontag" navbox with a broader remit, covering topics/themes/people/movements she was related to. Does anyone else think this would be useful? — Hugh (talk) 20:50, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I've moved it to the template space and added it to Susan Sontag, for a start. — Hugh (talk) 00:31, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

New Year's resolution: Write more articles for Women in Red!
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Revisiting gendered categories
Wikipedia talk:Categorization -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 23:20, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

"Carolina Oliphant, Lady Nairne", by any other name
I've started a Request for Comment on Talk:Carolina Nairne: How should the article refer to its subject, Carolina Oliphant, Lady Nairne, after the initial mention of her full name? --GRuban (talk) 18:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

New cat for Women hymnwriters
Hi. When you have some free time, and no rush, can you please create which would be a non-diffusing cat of ? The motivation is that while I've been preparing to start improving the article on Anne Steele, I noticed in its See Also section that someone added "English women hymn-writers (18th to 19th-century)" and wls to several biogs. This led me to goggle "women hymn writers" and I found that there are quite a few books and scholarly articles on this subject, so it makes sense to have the cat. If you'd like me to start the cat and you can work on populating it later, that's quite ok with me, too. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:20, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure. Should be something I can get to tonight or tomorrow. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:27, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Done.


 * Two points: one, another source, if you're interested, is the book The Masters of the Sacred Harp - I've used it to create two biographical articles in the past. Quite a few more women than I realized were involved in the movement. (Check it out if you're not familiar - it's really quite fascinating music.)


 * Two: I am ashamed and abashed to discover that those two women, Sarah Lancaster and Matilda T. Durham, were never categorized (by me) as hymnwriters. Off to rectify that now... -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 03:53, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much, ! --Rosiestep (talk) 04:09, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * For you, always a pleasure. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:20, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

International Women's Day Oxford 2018
In case you weren't aware, has created Meetups/UK/International Women's Day Oxford 2018. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 21:13, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

RfC about Christina Hoff Sommers book review
A request for comment is underway at Talk:Christina_Hoff_Sommers. Feel free to comment. Binksternet (talk) 15:23, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Roseanne Barr GAR
I've started WP:Good article reassessment/Roseanne Barr/1 and welcome input from others. Snuggums (talk / edits) 22:19, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Reevaluating a Wiki
Hi,

I'm working on the Emilia Lanier Wiki page for a final project in a college level course. Consequently, I have become a huge fan of Emilia Lanier, and I want to make her Wiki the best it can be. I was wondering how and when I could have this group reevaluate it's rating. It's currently a C-Class, and I would really like to bring it up to an A or B-Class.

Best, CarefulCatBird (talk) 18:38, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The quickest way to do it, I've found, is to simply blank the ratings on the talkpage. That will redesignate the article as unassessed, and someone will look at it. I'll do so in a moment. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:19, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Che dicono a Signa?

Thank you so much! The rating has gone up, and I'm very happy with it. Can you tell me how you cleared the ratings? I'm working on Lanier's "Salve Deus Rex Judeaorum" article now, and I'm hoping to raise the rating of that as well.

Best, CarefulCatBird (talk) 16:20, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Challenging deletion discussion
Hey all, there is going to be an interesting/challenging deletion discussion about the article Marlene A. Eilers Koenig. An account claiming to be the subject of the article, wants it deleted. The discussion could use either folks working to rescue the article with good sourcing, or being good allies in the deletion discussion. Sadads (talk) 14:57, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Women in Red June Editathons
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RfC at Roseanne Barr
There is an RfC at the Roseanne Barr talk page found here that members of this project might be interested in taking part in. -- ψλ  ● ✉ ✓ 01:59, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

BookExpo/BookCon
Hi all,

I'll be attending some of this week's BookExpo and BookCon. There will be an awful lot of well known authors there and I hope to take a few pictures. If there's an author article you've been working on that needs a photo, check bookexpoamerica.com and thebookcon.com to see if they'll be there and then ping me if so. No promises, of course, and unfortunately I don't have time to attend the whole thing, but if I'm there I'll do my best. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 18:53, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * This is fantastic, . Take as many photos as you can!! --Rosiestep (talk) 07:36, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

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Dorothea Benton Frank
Hello. Feel free to expand Dorothea Benton Frank, whose new novel is on the New York Times best-selling list.Zigzig20s (talk) 06:38, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Women in Green – call for participants
Hello all – I'd like to invite you to join Women in Green, WikiProject Women's article improvement department. The department has not been an active project in the past, but we are now working on kickstarting new collaborative work between editors to improve existing articles about women and women's works. If this sounds like something you're interested in, please add your name to Women in Green's list of active participants! You can check out more details of our discussions so far on the Women in Green talk page, plus our collaboration proposal here. Alanna the Brave (talk) 23:54, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Review: Caroline Bergvall
Hello! Please could someone review Caroline Bergvall's page? It is currently rated as stub, but I think/hope it might be re-rated now. Very many thanks. Medievalfran (talk) 16:04, 30 August 2018 (UTC)


 * ✅ --Rosiestep (talk) 21:01, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Help with Works updates for Wednesday Martin
Hi all! I've recently posted a request for author Wednesday Martin, seeking to update the Works section for her article. She is best known for her book Primates of Park Avenue but has also published other works around parenting and female sexuality, including some newer ones that have not yet been added to the article. I'm wondering if editors here might have a few minutes to look over my suggestions for the section? In all, I'm suggesting:
 * Adding a full list of works to the section (replacing the existing incomplete summary paragraph at the start of the section)
 * Adding mention of the TV adaptation in the works for Primates… and the different language versions of the book
 * Adding a sentence on her latest book, Untrue
 * Adjusting wording regarding other contributions to make it more evergreen and less in need of updating regularly to add other publications she has contributed to

Would someone from this WikiProject be interested to take a look? I'm making these suggestions on behalf of Wednesday Martin, as part of my work at Beutler Ink, so I will not make any direct edits to the article myself. Thanks in advance! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 15:42, 30 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi 16912 Rhiannon still need help with this? Auldhouse (talk) 16:24, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for checking, Auldhouse, this request has been reviewed. I have just posted a new request, about making a few tweaks to the Reception section, if you were interested to take a look? Thanks in advance! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk &middot; COI) 16:39, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I can take care of this. Give me a few days as I'm working on some other projects as well. Auldhouse (talk) 21:29, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks like someone got to it already! I'm looking at the article right now. I would suggest actually retooling the format a bit to match other writing bios. Here is how I would outline if I were starting this article:
 * Contents
 * Early Life and Education
 * Career (I would move her works down into its own section and list the highlights of her career here. And maybe move reception comments into this section as a work is mentioned)
 * Works (I would list her articles and books further down here)
 * Reception
 * Personal life
 * You can see an example in Ida Tarbell which I'm working on taking up to GA status. Another example is Gail Sheehy although I would probably take the Selected article section out.
 * Auldhouse (talk) 15:42, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

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Help Request for Katie Koestner: 1st woman in history to speak out as victim of "date" rape (vs. stranger rape) in history at age 18. Time Magazine Cover Story: June 3, 1991
Hi WikiProject Women Writers, Can anyone help me learn how Katie Koestner of TIME Magazine's Cover Story for June 3, 1991 can become listed as a Wikipedia entry? Katie Koestner was the first woman in history to speak out nationally and publicly in the US about "date" rape as opposed to "stranger" rape. Katie appeared on the cover of TIME Magazine on June 3, 1991. HBO and Lifetime made movies about her and she appeared on over 100 TV and Media programs. She has numerous publications, is the Executive Director of the international foundation, Take Back The Night, and has lectured at nearly 5000 schools, universities and other organizations. I am writing on Katie's behalf, and hope someone can help us! Many thanks, Amanda Blaugher Askkkatie2 (talk) 02:32, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

This needs stating more carefully. What we call date rape today has been occurring for several thousand years. Koestner pointed out the extent of the problem and possibly coined the term "date rape". Rape within marriage is also a recurrent problem, whether between the married couple or in the form of incest. I would say this all belongs under the existing page Types of rape, which lists and describes many kinds in separate sections. Data on Wikipedia needs to have been published. "Superlatives" such as "first in history" needed to be used cautiously. Some statistical data and correlations are needed too, and ample references to sociological research and newspaper articles dealing with the matter, which I imagine Koestner has. Cordially, Bmcln1 (talk) 08:22, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Imbaraka bint al-Bura'
I started drafting an article for Imbaraka bint al-Bura', whom I found in the missing articles list. She's a Mauritanian poet and writer. However, the only information I can find for her is an entry and some commentary in Arab Women Writers. None of her titles yield even a single Google hit, in English or (romanized) Arabic. I wonder if there might have been a translation error in that book. Are there any Arabic readers here who can try to confirm the AWW entry? Pburka (talk) 13:53, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Marion Winik
Hello. I have just requested the creation of Marion Winik's article. Perhaps one of you would like to create it?Zigzig20s (talk) 07:58, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I've added an entry in WikiProject Women writers/Missing articles. Pburka (talk) 16:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Margaret Paston
I have just realised that Wikipedia does not have an article about Margaret Paston. Typing her name into the search box, it seems that there is an article - but it is a redirect to the Paston Letters article, where there is very little about Margaret. Books, chapters and articles have been written about her, her letters, her literacy (lack of), her piety, etc, so there is no question in my mind as to whether she is a notable subject. Others mentioned in the Paston letters article who have their own articles are: William Paston (1378–1444); John Paston, Margaret's husband; Sir John Paston, Margaret's son; Robert Paston, 1st Earl of Yarmouth; William Paston, 2nd Earl of Yarmouth; as well as antiquary Francis Blomefield, antiquary Thomas Martin of Palgrave, antiquary Sir John Fenn (who "is best remembered for collecting, editing, and publishing the Paston Letters"!), lawyer & historian Herman Merivale, historian James Gairdner, professor of English language and literature Norman Davis - etc. Obviously, some of them are notable for other things, but I am horrified that Margaret Paston has not been thought to merit an article herself - or so it appears (I looked through the history of the article, and could not see any evidence that there had been such an article which had been merged with the Paston letters article). Some of you may know more about why this is - I have only recently started editing and creating on Wikipedia. I thought I would mention it here, as perhaps someone more knowledgeable would be able to write about her. I could access a few resources, so if no one else does, I could have a go at a draft, perhaps. RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:09, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I've added an entry to WikiProject Women writers/Missing articles. Please feel free to start a draft, or add links to sources to her entry in Missing articles. Pburka (talk) 16:45, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Anne Bullar
Hi, I came across this draft on a Victorian children's author while reviewing the AfC queue. It's unclear to me if the subject is notable, while the editor who created it appears to be new and inexperienced. The draft has already been declined once. If there are any members here who would be willing to have a look to either confirm that Bullar is not notable or to improve the draft, that would be great. --K.e.coffman (talk) 23:52, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I saw the declined draft on the WikiProject Women in Red, and started working on it. The draft was accepted before I had finished editing and resubmitted it! I, and others, have done a bit more since too. RebeccaGreen (talk) 17:20, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Katharine Brush
I noticed that the original entry for novelist Katharine Brush was marked as "needing improvement"; it had few citations, and not enough information about why she was important. So I went in and updated, re-wrote, added verifiable citations, etc. Please let me know if it is now a good quality article. If not, please let me know what further steps I need to take to bring it up to Wikipedia standards. Much love from a friendly media historian. DonnaHalper (talk) 05:14, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Re-assessment campaign
The last couple of months, I've been going through women writer biographies and updating the talkpage template for WPWW where it's been warranted. I've been relying on the ORES tool as a guide regarding "Class" update, but using my judgment, too. Regarding "Importance", for those women who have won a literary award and are currently showing "inherit" or "low", I'm upgrading to "mid". There are thousands of women writer biographies, so you are certainly welcome to join in the re-assessment campaign if you have the time and inclination. Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:26, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

I've noticed your sterling efforts and thank you.Bmcln1 (talk) 21:11, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I still marvel when people notice my wiki work. Thanks for that,, and you're welcome. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:09, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Women writers articles by quality and importance table
Does anyone know how the "Women writers articles by quality and importance" table gets updated? It seems to be stuck on 32,595 articles for quite some time; and the JL-Bot appears to only update recognized content, e.g. # of Featured Articles, etc. FYI, I asked the same question on 's talkpage as she's with WikiProject X. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:39, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Update: Here is a link to the table which is transcluded to our mainpage. The problem (the table isn't updating) isn't with JL-Bot; the problem is with WP 1.0 bot. Thank you, for sorting out which bot. Following this two step process, I have been able to run the report manually, but the updated table doesn't auto-transclude into User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Women writers. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:45, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Ida Tarbell GAN
Hello all. I've reviewed Ida Tarbell at GAN and found it's pretty close to good but the original nominator appears to be on a wikibreak. Planning to leave it open for another seven days if someone else wants to take a crack. see here. —Ed!(talk) 22:22, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

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Portal:Jane Austen & Portal:Virginia Woolf up for deletion
Portal:Jane Austen has been nominated for deletion as part of a bundled nomination under the title: Miscellany for deletion/Bottom Importance Portals. Portal:Virginia Woolf is also separately up for deletion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Virginia Woolf. Espresso Addict (talk) 05:48, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

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Feedback sought for merger discussion at Adrienne Rich
Your feedback would be appreciated at Talk:Adrienne Rich. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 19:08, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

June events with WIR
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Giulia Melucci
Would someone from this WikiProject take a look at Giulia Melucci and see if there's anything worth keeping? The article came up as part of a discussion at WP:THQ (see the misplaced response at WP:THQ), and apparently as a result of those comment, the editor asking the Teahouse question, decided to remove content from the article. There's no inline citations in the article, but maybe some of the secondary sources can be used to establish either WP:BIO or WP:NAUTHOR. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:46, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Notice of RfC
FYI. RfC available for comment:
 * Talk:Fabiana_Rosales

This is related to Venezuelan politics about a woman writer. --David Tornheim (talk) 23:37, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

July events from Women in Red!
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Editor assistance at Kim Echlin article
Hello! An editor has requested assistance with developing her article so that it incorporates new sources and information. There is a lot of promising material here, but the draft needs some TLC in order to be brought up to BLP standards. Was hoping there might be some editors here who might be willing to have a go at it. Any assistance would be most appreciated. Thank you! Spintendo 04:53, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Extra eyes here
I don't know if this is vandalism or not, but I figure an extra set of eyes would be good. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:07, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Samanta Schweblin being low importance is a crime
Possibly biased opinion here considering I've read all of Samanta Schweblin's work that has been translated into English so far and loved it all. However, she is an acclaimed author, and both her novel Fever Dream and her short story collection Mouthful of Birds received rave reviews. She was included in Granta Magazine's best Spanish Writers Under 35 list seven years BEFORE her novel Fever Dream was nominated for the Man Booker Prize, and Mouthful of Birds was nominated for the Man Booker International Prize two years later.

I believe her being labelled a low priority for the Women Writers Wiki project is a glaring oversight. ANDROMITUS (talk) 17:08, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, . Thanks for your interest in the author, Samanta Schweblin. A friendly FYI: we're all volunteers here, and we trust each other to use good judgement in rating articles. So if you believe the rating should be something other than 'low', go for it, and change it. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:27, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

5 year anniversary of WikiProject Women writers
Today is the 5 year anniversary of WikiProject Women Writers, which focuses on women writers (broadly construed) and their works. It was established in Washington D.C. during m:Wikimedia District of Columbia's Train-The-Trainer Bootcamp. It would not have happened if hadn't provided the strong encouragement to go for it. "Just do it," she said. So here we are now. Big thanks to editors who helped get it going in the early days: as definitely, it was a group effort. Plus big thanks to everyone else who's become a part of this work since the start-up -- too many to mention by name, but much gratitude nonetheless. Look at us now: 34,579 articles within our scope. Thanks to everyone who has been part of this journey over the past 5 years. Can't wait to see what the next 5 years are like! --Rosiestep (talk) 16:43, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Lovely! Thank you User:Rosiestep for this anniversary note. Congratulations on the amazing work everyone has – and continues – to do to improve Wikipedia's coverage about women writers! Here's to many more years! Missvain (talk) 17:11, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * It started as an inspiring initiative devoted to better coverage of women. Fitting that we should have women writers as a Women in Red focus for September.--Ipigott (talk) 17:31, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * So exciting! I don't remember how I influenced it early on: but always a supporter and ally if I can! Glad to bolster the work, and hope to keep doing it! Sadads (talk) 18:22, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't do much, but I am proud that I was in the room when it happened. You've done some great work in the past five years, congratulations! Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 21:03, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Pre-event Survey for WikiWomenCamp 2020
Some of you may be interested in completing this Pre-event Survey for WikiWomenCamp 2020. Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:54, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Ursula K. Le Guin at FAC
I have had Ursula K. Le Guin at FAC for some while, with the intention of getting the article on the main page for her 90th birthday in a month or so. It likely needs one or two more prose reviews to push it over the line; if anyone here would be interested in leaving comments, they would be much appreciated. The FAC is at Featured article candidates/Ursula K. Le Guin/archive1. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:09, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Request for input on edit dispute: Tressie McMillan Cottom
Hello there. Over at Tressie McMillan Cottom's article Talk page, @Noq and I can't see eye to eye on whether a particular award should be included in the article for Dr. McMillan Cottom. We've hit a stalemate and I'm wondering whether anyone here could weigh in and help nudge our disagreement to an end. I'm also posting this same message at the WikiProject Sociology talk page and the WikiProject Biography talk page, each as projects listed at Dr. McMillan Cottom's article's talk page as having an interest in her article. (Edit conflict is new to me, so my apologies if I'm going about this wrong.) Triplingual (talk) 01:52, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

October Events from Women in Red
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Sally Helgesen
Hi,

I have resubmitted a draft for a bestselling author Sally Helgesen after fixing the issues pointed out by the first reviewer. Can someone help me out with the review process as the previous reviewers have not responded in about a week?

Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajobryan (talk • contribs) 20:05, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:25, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

December events with WIR
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:42, 25 November 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

What If Our Textbooks Were Black?
Copying the following conversation from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red as I thought it might be of interest to this project's participants: --Rosiestep (talk) 17:33, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Possibly of interest: What If Our Textbooks Were Black?, a BBC radio series "celebrating Black cultural figures who should be more central to history". Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:22, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it will be interesting to see if they come up with a list. We already have Gwendolyn Brooks in several languages.
 * As for fiction, the project https://archive.org/details/1000blackgirlbooks based on the list by Marley Dias is ongoing; it was also mentioned in the IA news about the ability to sponsor a digitised book. The list already has 1000 books by 638 authors. Having written a useful work of fiction doesn't necessarily mean the person will be notable but here's the kind of people we're talking about (ordered by number of books included in the list, 3 or more): Jacqueline Woodson, Nikki Grimes, Diana G. Gallagher, Angela Johnson, Connie Porter, Ni-Ni Simone, Nikki Carter, Sharon M. Draper, Toni Morrison, Andrea Davis Pinkey, Jewell Parker Rhodes, Whoopi Goldberg, Alice Walker, Eloise Greenfield, Mary Hoffman, Patricia C. McKissack, Reshonda Billingsley Tate, Rita Williams-Garcia, Sharon G. Flake, Anna McQuinn, Celeste O. Norfleet, Hilary McKay, Juanita Havill, Karen English, Maya Angelou, Anne Schraff, Atinuke, Carole Boston Weatherford, Denise Lewis Patrick, Derrick Barnes, Earl Sewell, Edwidge Danticat, Faith Ringgold, Frank E. Edwards, Ida Siegal, Joyce Hansen, Kekla Magoon, Mildred D. Taylor, Nnedi Okorafor, Sandra Belton, Stephanie Perry Moore, Tamora Pierce, Tee Michelle, Valerie Wilson Wesley, Walter Dean Myers, Zora Neale Hurston, Alan Schroeder, Alexander McCall Smith, Andrea P Sanchez, Ann Rinaldi, Babygirl Daniels, Barbara E. Barber, Catherine Egan, Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, Eleanor E. Tate, Elizabeth D. Gray, Jerdine Nolen, Jeremy Whitley, Jo Whittemore, Katherine Cox, Kathy Knowles, Melissa Thomson, Nikki Giovanni, Octavia E. Butler, Patricia McKissack, Rachel Isadora, Renee Watson, Robyn Ringgold, Rosa Guy, Russell Summer Island, Sharon Dennis Wyeth, Sherri L. Smith, Tanita S. Davis, Teresa Reed, Tonya Bolden, Victoria Christopher Murray, Virginia Hamilton, Zetta Elliott.
 * Authors with two books listed: Alaya Dawn Johnson, Alonda Williams, Angela Shelf Medearis, Anica Mrose Rissi, Ann Cameron, Antoinette Tuff, April Randolph, Bebe Moore Campbell, Bell Hooks, Calvin Slater, Candy Dawson Boyd, Cari Best, Christopher Paul Curtis, Coleen Murtagh Paratore, Crystal Allen, Cynthia L. Fails, Debbi Chocolate, Dia Reeves, Eleanora E. Tate, Esme Raji Codell, Evelyn Coleman, Havill O'Brien, Jabari Asim, Jamaica Kincaid, Jamie Reed, Joan Steinau Lester, Joyce Carol Thomas, Karen Hesse, Karen Sandler, Kate Hannigan, Kathryn Lasky, Kelli London, Kelly Greenawalt, Kimberly Reid, Mabel E. Singletary, Marguerite Abouet, Marilyn Nelson, Michaela DePrince, Misty Copeland, Nancy Farmer, Oneeka Williams, Robert D. San Souci, Ruby Bridges, Sapphire, Shannon Freeman, Sherri Winston, Simone da Costa, Sister Souljah, Spike Lee, Sundee T. Frazier, Traci L. Jones, Vera B. Williams, Verna Aardema, Virgina Hamilton, Yona Zeldis McDonough.
 * Does the list look useful for article creation purposes? I've not yet checked what sources are available on the red links above. Nemo 05:37, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Many of them certainly deserve biographies. We could perhaps also think about creating a List of black women writers. In this connection, we're compiling a List of African-American women in classical music. Perhaps you (or others) can help us out by finding more sources or names which should be included.--Ipigott (talk) 07:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Article issues
There are comments at Talk:Jane Addams that might be of interest to members. Otr500 (talk) 13:12, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

February with Women in Red
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Judge Judy GAR
Judy Sheindlin, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Nole (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 21:36, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK collaboration

 * Núria Albó
 * Started: 11/22/14
 * Nomination: Template:Did you know nominations/Núria Albó


 * Anna Mackenzie
 * Started: 11/29/14
 * Nomination: Template:Did you know nominations/Anna Mackenzie

Frances Carpenter
I've begun work on the Frances Carpenter page. Would appreciate if someone would look it over, as I am new to Wikipedia and this is one of my first efforts. Frances Carpenter is a fascinating figure, long seen primarily through the lens of her father's work. With her life-time travel experience and multiplicity of publications, she is ripe for reassessment--let alone simple drafting that does not focus on the male view point. Sicklemoon (talk) 20:13, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

An automatically generated feed of new articles about women writers (and women's writing)
Hey folks! I've been working with the Wikimedia Search team to get topic predictions from mw:ORES into the search feature on Wikipedia. And I just realized that there was something really cool that you can do with it that y'all might be interested in. If you type "articletopic:women articletopic:literature" into the search box, it will return you a list of articles that my topic model thinks are about women writers and women's writing. You can further sort this list by article creation date and *boom*, you have a list of new articles about women writers that can be tagged, sorted, and supported by this WikiProject. [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?cirrusUserTesting=control&sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=articletopic%3Awomen+articletopic%3Aliterature&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns0=1 check it out]. I'm excited about this because I think y'all are the right people to review these articles and support the (often new) contributors who are working on them. What do you think? I'd like to work with people to help bring feeds of topically relevant stuff (new articles, edits, new editors, etc.) to WikiProjects like yours. --<span style="display:inline-block;padding:0 .25em;border-bottom:2px solid #008;background: #f6f6f6;" title="aka halfak">EpochFail (talk • contribs)
 * I tried to create a AWB search for the first 1000 articles on the list -- but it doesn't have the "sort" settings in the Wikisearch tool -- do you know if there is a way to create the sort strategy in the search rather than url parameters? Sadads (talk) 21:48, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Sadads, I don't know how to do with with just the search string, but I can do it with an API call if that is helpful. E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=search&srsearch=articletopic:women+articletopic:literature&srsort=create_timestamp_desc  I imagine any tool that uses search is probably using the API endpoint so it should be possible to also include the sort (<tt>srsort</tt>) parameter too. --<span style="display:inline-block;padding:0 .25em;border-bottom:2px solid #008;background: #f6f6f6;" title="aka halfak">EpochFail  (talk &bull; contribs) 14:34, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, can you clarify how to select a topic, e.g. I tried changing the word "literature" to "dance" (to get another list) and that didn't work. I also tried changing "literature" to "novels", and didn't get anything. Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:50, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * hey Rosiestep! Good question!  You can see the taxonomy here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ORES/Articletopic#Taxonomy  Any term from the taxonomy should work as expected.  Though I'm still trying to work out how the search team mapped the terms.  It looks like we don't have "dance" but we do have "performing arts" which is a bit of a broader class.  See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=search&srsearch=articletopic:women+articletopic:performing-arts&srsort=create_timestamp_desc or search "articletopic:women articletopic:performing-arts" for an example. --<span style="display:inline-block;padding:0 .25em;border-bottom:2px solid #008;background: #f6f6f6;" title="aka halfak">EpochFail  (talk &bull; contribs) 15:10, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:16, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Isabella Fenwick
Hey friends! I've just submitted my first ever page for review—an article on Isabella Fenwick, a good friend and collaborator of the poet William Wordsworth. She's a fascinating figure in her own right and it's largely thanks to her work that we know so much biographical information about the circumstances in which Wordsworth composed his poems. I'd be very grateful if any experienced editors could review! --Carinarampelt (talk) 16:02, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Join project button
...does not seem to be working for me. I could have sworn I was already a member; I've written most (all?) of the existing GAs and FAs about Ursula K. Le Guin's writing; seeing as I was not listed, I tried to list myself today, and wasn't able. I'd appreciate it if someone would click the buttons for me. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:36, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * sorry for the bother, but you seem one of the few active folks here... Vanamonde (Talk) 16:24, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, nice to meet you, and so cool to learn about your work with Ursula K. Le Guin's writings!! I don't really how to add you to the members list, but I'll ask on the Women in Red talkpage and see if someone there can help over here with this issue. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:57, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , Do you have the default "formWizard" gadget enabled at Special:Preferences? Galobtter (pingó mió) 19:06, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I didn't have that; I changed that preference, and tried again; this time it allows me to fill out the necessary fields on a project card, but then is non-responsive at the final stage, where there's another "join Wikiproject" button. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:27, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You have indeed been a member of Women in Red since December 2015 and are still listed. See User:Vanamonde93/WikiProjectCards/WikiProject Women in Red. (cc --Ipigott (talk) 19:59, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Not to be a bother, but WIR is a different Wikiproject, isn't it? Vanamonde (Talk) 20:18, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think I might have fixed the issue with the gadget; joining as a member works for me. If the last "join Wikiproject" button still doesn't work for you, could you follow the last step of Reporting JavaScript errors so I can see what the issue is? Galobtter (pingó mió) 22:07, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * That worked, thanks! And thanks to too. re Vanamonde (Talk) 22:15, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, everyone for the teamwork! --Rosiestep (talk) 22:26, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * And my excuses for confusing the projects.--Ipigott (talk) 06:15, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Alert configuration?
How/where are the Article Alerts configured? I noticed that Miriam Barukh Halfi isn't included in the PROD section, but I don't know why, nor where to start investigating. pburka (talk) 22:42, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah! I think it's based on articles being members of the project, rather than categorization. I've added that page to the project. We'll see if it shows up. pburka (talk) 00:29, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

38,000+
As of May 18th, there are 38,000+ articles within the scope of this WikiProject (women writers and their works). Congratulations to everyone who has contributed to this achievement! --Rosiestep (talk) 16:05, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion
Another spin-off from the conversation started at Talk:Hadewijch. I was thinking about initiating a navbox like Medieval women writers. Checking Medieval literature, it seems like that should be a possibility, no? --Francis Schonken (talk) 10:12, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Kicked it off, the template I mean: help welcome at Medieval women writers! --Francis Schonken (talk) 12:25, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

40,000
Congratulations! There are now 40,000+ articles within the scope of our WikiProject! Making a concerted effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of women writers and their works truly does lead to results. It takes a lot of editors to do so. Thank you to all of us. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:20, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Flip the List
Hi all.

Earlier today I became aware of #FlipTheList, a group of environmental history scholars who want to address the bias towards white, male authors in the list of environmental books article. They were crowdsourcing a list of books to add, emphasizing people of color, people from the global south, and people who identify as women, trans, and non-binary. They had a day-long collaboration and now have a spreadsheet with ~800 books. Their list seems solid and I think most of the entries would meet WP:NBOOK, but I told them that the criteria for inclusion on that particular list seemed to be only for books that already had articles. They'd love to know if that was not the case.

I'm fairly sure creating articles for all of the books is more than they signed up for, but they are going to discuss their next steps soon. In the meantime, I've started creating entries on Wikidata for some of the books. My question is: Is there any interest on this project or elsewhere in helping them out? Any advice? gobonobo + c 02:15, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

How to get this page approved?
Hello - trying to set up a page for the novelist Kirstin Innes whose second novel has just been released as it seems to be making waves. Rejected once - have tried to make changes. Any advice appreciated? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kirstin_Innes 86.1.164.95 (talk) 20:10, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I tried to help a bit. Laurier (talk) 08:57, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The page is accepted and published! Well done, 86.1.164.95! Laurier (talk) 12:06, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Move discussion for The Star of Cottonland
Please come participate at Talk:The Star of Cottonland Thanks! ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 20:58, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft: Katya Cengel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Katya_Cengel

My page for American Author Katya Cengel was declined. I have tried to edit it but would really appreciate as many pairs of eyes as I can get. Thanks in advance for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiJSPN (talk • contribs) 22:32, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Article was approved, but please, any direction in improving it is still very, very welcomed!! WikiJSPN (talk) 04:16, 27 August 2020 (UTC)WikiJSPN


 * Just a thought I had looking at it - I understand why you did it, but putting the WorldCat holdings right under each of her books seems a bit like advertising. You can provide access to that info and be a little more subtle by tagging the OCLC number of the book with the OCLC template. People can click that and see the holdings for themselves directly without having to dig into the footnotes. I always put an OCLC on every book because that direct link to WorldCat is so handy for readers to find libraries local to them. --Krelnik (talk) 12:00, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

September Women in Red edithons
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Nomination of Casey Calvert (actress) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Casey Calvert (actress) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Casey Calvert (actress) (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

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Discussion at Talk:Jerilyn Lee Brandelius § Notability
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Jerilyn Lee Brandelius § Notability. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:25, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

draft article for Flynn Coleman
Hello WikiProject Women writers, I'm Eruditess, I'm a semi new editor who recently decided to take the plunge and try my hand at article creation. My first attempt is an article about Flynn Coleman; the reviewer was vague, but it seems my submission was declined due to the poor job I did documenting her notability. In addition to writing "The Human Algorithm", a book discussing ethically designed AI; she is an American Activist, Entrepreneur, International Human Rights Lawyer, Professor, Social Innovator, and Public Speaker. She has lived in a dozen countries, won several awards, earned two Law Degrees, has worked with the United Nations on Human Rights, is a TED Talk Speaker, and is the Founder and CEO for Malena, a company that globally promotes third world female artisans. Can someone review the link to my draft and give me some pointers on what I am missing or need to enhance/improve? Any help at all is greatly appreciated, Thanks!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Flynn_Coleman Eruditess (talk) 03:18, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

October editathons from Women in Red
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Reliable sources for a plot detail
This talk page doesn't seem to receive much discussion for an author's individual books, but I figured posting here would make more sense than posting on Talk:Curtain (novel) which might not be watched by too many editors. This book refers to a few other novels in the same series, but without many identifying details, and the article clarifies which novels are being referred to (Death on the Nile and so on). There's one reference in the book to a character named "Evelyn Carlisle" in the book, which the page doesn't yet clarify, but which seems very likely to be Elinor Carlisle from Sad Cypress. Does anyone have ideas as to how I can find the right kinds of reliable sources to include this in the article, or if I can just go ahead and post my conjecture? Airbornemihir (talk) 18:02, 2 October 2020 (UTC)


 * , This is an unusual place to talk about the novel Curtain, but here I am, sent from the Talk page of that novel. There are 38 watchers for the article, by the way, per the Page statistics. Sad Cypress was probably written not that long before Curtain, featuring Elinor Carlisle, though published in 1940, long before Curtain was published. Can you elaborate the situation for mentioning a character with a different first name in Curtain? It has been a while since I read Curtain, and the name does not come to mind. The other allusions are written without reliable outside sources, included in the way the Plot summary is written, as far as I know. Some may be mentioned in reviews or other sources about Christie's novels, but no editor has included those as inline citations in this or other articles on writings by Agatha Christie, that I recall. The allusions need to be fairly obvious from the text, so that if one reads the book, it is pretty clear that Poirot is mentioning events recorded in another novel; not all references that Poirot makes are to cases in one of the novels or short stories. If you could be more specific as to why you think a reference to a character whose name does not quite match the name of Elinor Carlisle, is really a reference to her, that would be helpful. --Prairieplant (talk) 10:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Prairieplant, thanks for following the link from my please see message. My reasoning for filling in the reference based on my conjecture was pretty much that readers should be able to get this kind of extra-textual knowledge off Wikipedia if they're interested, but if there isn't much of a clear consensus for linking to Sad Cypress, I can leave it alone. Two things, though: I found this character's name by searching through Wikipedia's plot summaries for Poirot novels, and I figured this might be the right character since Agatha Christie does sometimes make changes to characters' first names, such as Joyce Lempriere from the Thirteen Problems who was referred to as Joan in later novels. Airbornemihir (talk) 15:24, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes Agatha Christie did change the first names of characters now and then. I am curious in what context the name was brought up, as I cannot recall it and do not have the book at hand. If the context is interesting, then the addition to Allusions is more likely to match the others in that section. --Prairieplant (talk) 04:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * When Hercule and Arthur are discussing the possible motives of X being involved in 5 murders in their first conversation about X, Arthur asks, "There is, you are quite sure, no farfetched financial motive - nothing, for instance, like you found in the case of Evelyn Carlisle?". You can double-check this by searching Google Books, although I'm not sure how to link to the results of my search. Are you leaning towards including this as an allusion? Airbornemihir (talk) 14:13, 8 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, as Sad Cypress had two murders by poison by a woman trying to get at an inheritance. As long as that is clear, your discussion from Curtain and that of the motive in Sad Cypress, then the allusion works. --Prairieplant (talk) 20:59, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

November edit-a-thons from Women in Red
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FAR notice
I have nominated Kellie Loder for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Bacon 20:02, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Melissa Guillet
Before I prod this unsourced BLP, I want to give you a few days, say next Tuesday, December 1. Bearian (talk) 00:44, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

December with Women in Red
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New GA nomination
Hi members, I have expanded the article Mahadevi Varma with the help of hi:महादेवी वर्मा and have nominated it for WP:GAN. Thank you. — Amkgp 💬  18:36, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the notification, ., would you please inform Women in Green? --Rosiestep (talk) 05:27, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have notified the same at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Green. Thank you — Amkgp 💬  06:00, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

M. L. Emmett
This stub needs TLC. Bearian (talk) 21:55, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Fern Michaels
I stumbled across this article about author Mary Ruth Kuczkir (pen name Fern Michaels), and the article basically seems like it needs to be rewritten from the ground up. The lead seems adequate, but the broader article has a litany of issues. The bulk of the article's prose is just exhaustively listing her works; the cited sources are woefully inadequate for a BLP; the biography feels like it was written by a fan of the author (this could also be, however, because it's exclusively sourced from what is now a 404 page on the subject's own website); and the last paragraph of said biography goes on a bizarre, ostensibly irrelevant tangent about the subject's delusional experience with an alleged ghost. I'm not going to mince words: the long and the short of it is that the article could be blanked and replaced with a hyperlink to fernmichaels.com (the only source cited in the article), and readers would get about as much out of it as what we currently have.

At the moment, I'm working on mid-century Minnesota politics (riveting stuff, I know), I have no background in literature, and I just have no passion to put the level of work in that this article needs. I posted this here to at least give the article a chance and see if anyone knowledgeable and passionate enough could give it the care it's deserved for the 14 years it's been around.

These four recent sources might get you started, or they might not.


 * https://meaww.com/hallmark-movie-unlocking-christmas-meet-the-cast-taylor-cole-steve-lund-mystery-romance


 * https://www.goupstate.com/article/NC/20130730/News/605139515/SJ/


 * https://www.pennlive.com/entertainment/2020/12/how-to-watch-the-hallmark-christmas-movies-debuting-this-weekend-time-channel-stream.html


 * https://www.kob.com/news/publishers-weekly-best-sellers/5922986/

 TheTechnician27  (Talk page)  08:26, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

A New Year With Women in Red!
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Nella Cotrupi
This stub could use some work. Please help! Bearian (talk) 21:40, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Little Women
Started a discussion for improving the above page on its talk if anyone's interested. jamdav86 (talk) 11:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Women memoirists
I created some geographical subcats for. It's very painstaking to review all of the articles in by hand and recategorize the appropriate ones into the country subcat. Ergo..., if and when you have time and inclination, would you please take a poke at this with the AWB tool? I'd be appreciative. Also, I found that at least a couple of the biographies that I reviewed when I started this subcat process did not have the WPWW talkpage template, so if it could be added where missing, that would be great. Thanks! --User:Rosiestep (talk) 22:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure - I'm finishing up one AWB task (hopefully in the next three or four days), and will work on some recategorization after that. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 23:02, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , . --Rosiestep (talk) 23:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Any time. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 23:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

circular referencing
Perhaps, you can help solving the circular referencing problem that been exposed at Talk:Han Moo-sook, i.e. within your scope. Cheers. Pldx1 (talk) 11:15, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Carmen Novoa images
Would some members of this WikiProject mind taking a look at Carmen Novoa and the two images being used in the body of the article? They appear to be personal images uploaded by someone who might be related to Novoa and I'm not sure how encyclopedically relevant they to the readers of the article. The infobox image seems fine, but the other two have a WP:NOTFACEBOOK feel to them. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:31, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Nina DeVries
Please help to fix this little stub. Bearian (talk) 20:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Petra Seeger
This article has been tagged as NN for over 11 years. It will be nominated any day now for deletion, based on normal processes. Please ping me if you can rescue it. Bearian (talk) 22:28, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Based on normal AfD process, it will be acknowledged that she is not a 1920 cricket player, and not even a member of the British royal family. And the article will be kept. So what ? Pldx1 (talk) 10:50, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Kokumo
Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at Kokumo and perhaps try helping out or  (they appear to be the same person)? Some editors have been trying to help him/her out in good faith at the Teahouse as well as on his/her user talk pages, but nobody seems to be having much success. In fact, these good-faith attempts only seem to have led to some borderline NPAs being posted on various editors' user talk pages, etc. Maybe someone else will have better luck. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:53, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Leanna Keyes
Leanna Keyes is a new article created yesterday without going through WP:AFC. Would someone from this WikiProject mind looking it over and assessing it? -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:42, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

April editathons from Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:15, 22 March 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Anna Laetitia Barbauld Featured article review
I have nominated Anna Laetitia Barbauld for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  20:05, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Novelists etc. in Dictionary of Women Worldwide
Over at Women in Red there's an effort to identify redlinks from the Dictionary of Women Worldwide. There are all sorts of occupations, but a noticeably large number of novelists which I thought might interest people here. Dsp13 (talk) 08:24, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

May 2021 at Women in Red
--Rosiestep (talk) 21:35, 28 April 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Janet Malcolm
Given the sad news that Janet Malcolm, of The New Yorker, has died, I have nominated her for the “In the news/recent deaths” feature on main page. If anyone would like to help improve the entry for that purpose, the collaboration would be very welcome. Innisfree987 (talk) 18:25, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Donna Amenta


The article Donna Amenta has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Seems to be a rather unremarkable scientist where the wiki page has been in need of citations for 8 years. As the one source provided on this page (which has been the only source since it's inception) is a broken link, this page defacto unsourced. I was unable to find anything meaningful about her through searching methods that could even come close to satisfying notability guidelines. There's also a list of books on the side of the page that she seems to not have written and I am not sure why they are there as they don't even seem science related? Of what I did find, she has an h-score of 5, which is quite terrible, and fails blatently at all WP:PROF guidelines, as well as WP:GNG."

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 * I removed the WPWW talkpage template as it's not apparent that this biography fits within the scope of WPWW. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:58, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Liz Clarke
Liz Clarke needs clean up since 2007. "weasel words".... —— 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 05:09, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Riane Eisler needs total rewrite
This biography is rated as high-importance for this WikiProject. I've stubbed the article, after reviewing all references and the editing history. The article had been written almost entirely by paid editors and SPAs with few if any other edits. I couldn't find a single BLP-quality independent source that had ever been used in it, nor could find any with quick, general searches. --Hipal (talk) 17:02, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of memoirs by first ladies of the United States/archive1
Hi all, this FLC (mine) could use some attention if anyone is interested. Eddie891 Talk Work 16:07, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

August Editathons at Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:23, 23 July 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Some women writers with "BLP no footnotes" template
In case anyone enjoys improving women writer biographies that contain the BLP no footnotes template, here are the ones I found this month: Jennifer DeLia, Jeanne Halgren Kilde, Aimee Friedman, Agnès Poirier, Jacqueline Rayner, Ioanna Karystiani, Ilsa J. Bick. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:29, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , thanks—I do enjoy it! Got started on Aimee Friedman but if any children’s literature specialists have a knack for those sources, it could still do with some further attention. Innisfree987 (talk) 20:06, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * OMG,, you are awesome. I was clueless if anyone would be interested in this at all. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:24, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , totally my pleasure—on theme with some recent discussions at WiR, collecting book reviews for women writers became a hobby early in my Wikipedia career following some, er, challenging AfDs. Happy to rabbit-hole for a purpose! Innisfree987 (talk) 23:59, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Another one: Tracie Peterson. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:33, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Announcement: Women in Red's upcoming annual editathon focused on women writers & their works
A friendly reminder that during the month of September, Women in Red focuses on the creation of new articles about women writers and also their works. Meetup page here. Everyone is welcome! --Rosiestep (talk) 20:59, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Irène Mélikoff
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Irène Mélikoff that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibboleth ink  (♔ ♕) 04:26, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Happy 7 Year Anniversary!
Happy 7th Anniversary, WikiProject Women Writers, and thank you to all the editors who've created and improved articles within this project's scope. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:41, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Special effects of The Empire Strikes Back
This page about the special effects of a famous film is listed as a "high importance" women writers page. I suspect that might have been copied from The Empire Strikes Back, which was co-written by Leigh Brackett, but it's not clear that every aspect of the film is equally important. Perhaps someone could reassess whether the special effects of the film ought to be "high importance" for this project, or whether the page belongs in the project at all. pburka (talk)
 * I reviewed the article, . I go along with the view to remove WPWW from that talkpage template. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:00, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

J. K. Rowling has an RFC
J. K. Rowling, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Sideswipe9th (talk) 00:12, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

FAR for Uncle Tom's Cabin
I have nominated Uncle Tom's Cabin for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t · c)  buidhe  07:56, 4 December 2021 (UTC)