Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yugoslavia/Archive 1

Minor correction
In the last paragraph of the introduction, please correct the punctuation: Where it reads (...) On 4 February 2003. It was renamed to the "State Union of Serbia and Montenegro", (...) please correct to (...) On 4 February 2003, it was renamed to the "State Union of Serbia and Montenegro", (...) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wxyz1234 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Shortcut
Um, the shortcut WP:FY would be interpreted by most people as something quite unrelated 8-) – or is the ambiguity intended? Duja 07:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmmmmmm... no, I didn't realise it was ambiguous. I guess you are implying FY would be considered as "fuck you"? :-) Or is it some other ambiguity? --Dijxtra 10:39, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, right :-). Duja 13:12, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, well, I say: no big deal :-) If you consider it to be offensive, dunno, think of something better (ans still short) and I'll agree :-) --Dijxtra 09:46, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't consider it offensive, just ambiguous in the exactly right amount :-). Some provocative publicity won't hurt I think (see: "What was Severina before she became famous?") ☺.

Add Bulgaria and make this WikiProject South Slavic countries?
Greetings! I'm pleased to see there's now a WikiProject on former Yugoslavia. Currently, Bulgaria doesn't have its own WikiProject and it would be quite difficult to gather people and start a separate one at this point, so I thought it might be a good idea to widen the outlook of this project to include my mother country and make it "WikiProject South Slavic countries" (as Bulgaria is the only South Slavic country not to have been part of Yugoslavia) or something like that. What do you think about it? → Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov → 12:41, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Now, the problem is - former Yugoslavian countries have very much in common: common history, common culture, common languages. But, here "common" is used in veeeeeeeeeeeeeeery broad sense. And I personally am afraid that it cannot be broader than it is (Slovenians and Macedonians have quite a few differences). I'm afraid that adding Bulgaria to this project would make it just too broad. For instance, can you help on articles which are listed on our Article Improvement Drive? Don't know about you, but I don't think I could help you with Bulgarian topics...
 * Look, this is real hard for me, because I like to cooperate and work together, because that's what Wikipedia is - one giant collaboration, and I'm very sorry for having to write this, but: I don't see what good would South Slavic WikiProject provide. I find topics of former Yugoslavia and Bulgaria just to diverse, and point of WikiProject is to coordinate actions on related topics.
 * I hope you won't get offended by what I wrote. I have nothing against Bulgaria, when I was a kid, I often imagined myself to be Hristo Stoitchkov :-) And, of course, being a democratic person, I'll agree to accept Bulgaria join this WikiProject if other members of this project outvote me. --Dijxtra 13:08, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, not all topics are disjunctive. I co-operated with Todor on Macedonian language, Rakia (IIRC), and there may be more articles of common interest, like Ajvar (just expanded), Tambura, Kajmak, Turbo-folk, Balkan wars. However, I see the FY project more as an attempt to harmonize, often wildly opposing, POVs on the common Ex-Yu history. Bulgaria has been mostly tangential to that, and I tend to agree with Dijxtra that it would dissipate the project, which still has no 100% clearly defined mission, before it even seriously started. I'm not overly strong on that though. Duja 13:22, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Ummm, yes, I believe I know what you mean, guys. Indeed, the topic is quite broad already, although I can disagree with some of your points. For instance, while Macedonia and Slovenia do have little in common, Macedonia and Bulgaria are strongly related. Many of the history, culture and language topics are also shared between former Yugoslav countries and Bulgaria, but there are also important historical differences, especially during the 20th century. And really, this WikiProject as you define it, on the common history of former Yugoslavia, might not be suitable to include Bulgaria. This surely won't stop us from collaborating on the numerous topics that we share, of course, since I'm seriously keen on starting a WikiProject and/or notice board for Bulgaria-related topics soon! [[Image:Flag of Bulgaria.svg|20px]] → Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov → 18:32, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Hear, hear! Any kind of cooperation you propose I'm most sure we'll accept! As I said, I'm always in for cooperation. --Dijxtra 23:23, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Part of my point was that Macedonia and Bulgaria are strongly related indeed. Then, Macedonia and Greece are also strongly related, as well as Albania. Since both Bulgaria and Greece are related with Turkey, which is in turn related with middle East... I agree that any border drawn must be arbitrarily, but here's where we drew it. That still does not preclude us to cooperate on articles of common interest. Duja 12:13, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

My 2 cents: given the turbulent history of former Jugo, I think it's a darn good idea to have this wikiproj to help people get past ugly things like differences and nationalism and focus on what the former Jugo republics have in common. So I'm strongly against expanding this article to include other Slavic countries thereby making this wikiproj South Slavic Countries. However, I think having a separate wikiproj South Slavic countries is also an awesome idea. It would be a great place for south Slavs to combine knowledge and whatnot, and we'd probably all be surprised by just how much we have in common. But only as a separate project.
 * Question: how active do members of wikiproj former Jugo have to be? Cuz I'd like to be a member, but will definitely not be one of the more active ones.

Stop The Lies 07:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)Stop_The_Lies


 * You don't have to be particular active. And if you are interested in South Slavic stuff, you might like to check out the Macedonian Wikipedians' notice board (for stuff related to the Macedonia region). - Francis Tyers · 09:50, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Project page design
I'm not a fan of Creeping featurism, but I touched the bottom two tables to look a bit more vivid. With all due credits to the author's effort (Dijxtra?) the project page design now looks like the Former Yugoslavia in mid-90s – bleach and exhausted :-(. If you agree, I'd also edit the other tables (preserving the "Edit" links in headings as a must).


 * Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease do! I'm just a programer: my programs do wonders, but have no GUI ;-) I admit that design is dull and colorful like London fog, so please do something to improve the design. --Dijxtra 13:46, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll give it a try. A technical question (I'm lazy to go to Tech support Wikipage): is there a way to define a "parameter" or "local template" in wikicode? I'd like to parametrize the color, as in the following pseudo-code:

set MyColor="#E0E0FF" ... ...bgcolor= ...


 * Duja 14:02, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

There. I think it's a bit nicer. I decided not to overuse colors, just to slightly improve the layout. Please test whether Edit links work as you intended – I tried to follow the principle. Duja 15:38, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know, this lines under "Article Improvement Drive", "Maintenance" and "Related" are ugly. But they are inevitable. Problem with your version was that edit link didn't work correctly for "Featured articles" and "Categorising" because there was no section directly below it. That is, Categorising was "===", and when you click on edit, it showed all the way down to next "==="... Therefore, "Related" just had to get his "==" back... But, apart from that, your redesign is great! --Dijxtra 16:05, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Userbox design
Here I propose new design for the userbox. The thing is: I like the "YU" thingy, but some people might find it overly nostalgic. Now, in real life I just don't associate with people which have problems like that, but on Wikipedia every help we can get is good, in my oppinion. I think that "WPFY" is more neutral and should replace "YU". But, if you guys think I exaggerate, I'll drop the proposal :-) --Dijxtra 18:12, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure, I have no problems with WP FY. --dcabrilo 20:52, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Links to separate language editions
I think those should be added to the project's main page: http://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glavna_stranica_/_%D0%93%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0, http://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po%C4%8Detna_strana, http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glavna_stranica, http://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0 and http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glavna_stran. (I could only find those, maybe more apply?) -Missmarple 12:48, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * You forgot the Serbian edition ;-) There, I added them. --Dijxtra 15:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Voting for article improvement drive articles
OK, we better figure out how to pick 3 articles we'll colaborate on. We can put '+' by the name of the article, and the article with most pluses on Sunday gets elected? What do you think? --Dijxtra 10:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The list seems to be getting longer, so I made this: AID Voting. See how you like it (and edit it mercilessly). --dcabrilo 21:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Quick note: I'm at the moment in a painfull process of re-instaling my operating systems (both of them :-) ) and that's why I'm slow on commenting this, don't think I don't like your idea :-) --Dijxtra 23:09, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I like it. Can you move it to WikiProject_Former_Yugoslavia/AID or somewhere? --Dijxtra 18:13, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Done, now go and vote! --dcabrilo 08:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Enemy offensives
I think there are already articles for some (most?) of them, like Operation Schwarz and Fall Weiss (1943). Zocky | picture popups 13:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope, only those two. I remembered to check a bit late, and then I found only these two. --Dijxtra 15:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I think we should put all "enemy offensives" under more specific and neutral names, and use both German operation names (Weiss, Schwarz...) and "enemy offensives" only once we have enough material to warrant separate articles for the operations of each side.

I think the names should be:
 * 1) Republic of Užice, with redirect from First enemy offensive (any more?)
 * 2) Igman march, with redirect from Second enemy offensive
 * 3) Battle of Kozara, with redirect from Third enemy offensive
 * 4) Battle of Neretva, with redirects from Fourth enemy offensive and Fall Weiss (1943)
 * 5) Battle of Sutjeska, with redirects from Fifth enemy offensive and Operation Schwarz
 * 6) Sixth enemy defensive, unless we have a better name
 * 7) Battle of Drvar, with redirect from Seventh enemy offensive

Plus any other redirects, especially from German codenames.

Zocky | picture popups 19:24, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, I didn't see this! Of course, of course, I agree with you. We'll have to do some serious merging, I'll try to do that as soon as I get some time. --Dijxtra 11:52, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh, http://www.bosnjaci.net/aktuelnosti.php?polje=historija&id=193 is not a very good source for citations, but it offers a useful overview. Zocky | picture popups 19:27, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages with links
We could help out by fixing the links to, for example, Serbian. There are probably more that apply... --Missmarple 09:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Nice. Can you go through the list and find the pages that are related to this project? --Dijxtra 18:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


 * So far we have Serbian and Bosnia. I shall search for more :) --Missmarple 19:19, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Getting started with AID
Shall we pick just one article from each AID category and proclaim them winners so we can start working on those? And as new candidates cristalize, we can add those to? I mean, we can start with just 1, 1, 1 winners, and then later make it 3, 2, 1, so we don't have to wait now, eh? --Dijxtra 18:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * That can work out as well, but I'd like people to have enough options. It's a trade off, but if nobody comes up with an opinion, we can just go with 1,1,1. --dcabrilo 19:28, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I was being bold and started the thing. Now, go to work! :) --dcabrilo 07:21, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Admin work
We do have some admins here, right? Can somebody move Barbarez to Sergej Barbarez? I just don't feel like listing it on requested moves page and going through discussion as this is plain obvious. --Dijxtra 14:47, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

A newcomer
Finally the music that I like too. All of my friends here listen Svetlana Ražnatović, Severina and the new-style national music. I don't oppose them, but it's just not my taste (like Bijelo dugme). How do I join this project? --HolyRomanEmperor 20:43, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Welcome! You can join this project by clicking the 'edit' link besides the 'Members of WPFY' header and signing yourself. You can do this by clicking the third-from-right button below the edit box). I would also like to say that this project is open for all people, even those who listen to Severina :) --Missmarple 21:13, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Did it seem like insultive in my sentence (regarding Severina)? It wasn't my intention. --HolyRomanEmperor 13:16, 17 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Not at all, I just wanted to clarify that this project hasn't got much to do with personal music preferences :) --Missmarple 15:30, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Svakoga dana u svakom pogledu sve više napredujemo
Ok, now that I got your attention, I need some info for the article Stjepan Filipović. First of all, does anyone know the date of his death? Second of all, the illustration there (Image:Stjepanfilipovic.jpg) is from 1942, apparently published in a newspaper. So, my best guess, it's public domain, since there was no state to uphold copyright at the time and nobody claims ownership now. Any other thoughts on that? --dcabrilo 07:18, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I think we can trust the Slovene article about the date of death :) --Missmarple 09:15, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the copyright for former yu is really tricky bussines. I tried to sort that out, asked on some law-related forums, but nobody knew nothing, apart from that the stuff created in SFRY and NDH is not public domain because: a) the county had its copyright laws (althought nobody can seem to find and quote them) so those apply to the stuff created while it existed, b) things don't get created by states, but by people, so copyright owners are not countries but people, countries only provide laws. The fact that it is debatable which laws applied in 1942 makes the situation even worse. You can read one older discussion regarding this matter here. Not that you'll find a solution to your problem there, we concluded nothing there. It'd be great if we could raise some mony and pay some layers to find the laws and figure out which stuff we can use ad PD :-) --Dijxtra 11:26, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Public domain resources
I started a Wikiproject for using the Library of Congress Country Studies. These are public domain documents on various countries. I started the project to coordinate there use here. Please take a look at the subpage on the former Yugoslavia. This is an old study done before the break up, but I think much of the information would be useful. If anyone knows what would be useful, or would like to help import the texts, your help would be appreciated.--Bkwillwm 07:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Belgrade
I can't attract contributors to my WikiProject, so I'm gooing to have to advertise it. Is it OK here? WikiProject Belgrade --HolyRomanEmperor 15:01, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Wohow... WikiProjects started to blossom this spring. It seems to me that this WP has problems getting started (but I'm sure we'll prevail those problems, at least I'm sure I'll go on with my work on this project in few weeks time, so it won't die out for sure) and that there exists a defficit of contributors willing to cooperate on such a broad area as former Yu... so I can predict that both WikiProject Croatia and WikiProject Belgrade should have even more problems as those are subsets of former Yugoslavia... just my 2 cents. --Dijxtra 16:45, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


 * OK. Portal:Croats' also a stub. --HolyRomanEmperor 13:36, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Need some help
Guys, since we've not updated the article improvement drive page for a bit, let me get your attention here. BTW we do need to update it, but it does take input from all of us. Anyhow, I started Battle of Dražgoše today, as well as Kurentovanje. I just heard about Kurentovanje today, and googled for information, but I bet Slovenes here could help out improve that article. It's a rather interesting topic, imho. Pozdrav svima! --dcabrilo 07:19, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I will try to add something as soon as I find the time to. Pozdrav vsem tudi iz Slovenije. --Missmarple 10:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Letters ǉ, ǌ and ǆ
Hello everyone. As you all know, we got used to writing letters lj, nj and dž in Serbo-Croatian as two characters, so ǉ becomes _l_j_ (лј instead of љ). But, they in fact exist in unicode as ǉ, ǌ and ǆ (one stroke at the keyboard). Would it be smart at all to start using these characters in ex-Yu related articles? Perhaps in more technical stuff, like alphabet on language articles? Say what you think.

I could help people who use Linux to get started with these characters, but I'm not sure about Windows.

P.S. If I am not mistaken, Slovenian doesn't "recognize" ǉ, ǌ and ǆ as one character?--dcabrilo 05:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
 * (about Slovene) No, it does not. --Missmarple 10:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, "ǉ" in "ǉubav" is one letter. And, yes, it has a unicode code. And, no, nobody uses it :-( Not only on Wikipedia, but on the Internet as a whole. And using it on Wikipedia would be something very much like original research. Not to mention that it is fairly complicated to type letter ǉ. Therefore, I think we shouldn't use it... --Dijxtra 11:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with Dijxtra here. My browser cannot read these letters. -- S iva1979 Talk to me  16:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Jebiga :) Still, it's probably a good piece of info to add to some of the articles. --dcabrilo 05:40, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

El kondor pada
Can people here please take a look at: Articles_for_deletion/El_kondor_pada and give their comment. Thanks! --dcabrilo 19:59, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

New articles
I think that we should have more articles about historical states and provinces that existed in the territory of Former Yugoslavia. I will list here links to some articles that should be written. Currently, most of these links are redirects, but if anybody want to write real articles about these subjects, he can start them here. Also, the other people could to add links to more possible articles that should be written. Here is the list:
 * Serbian Empire (currently a redirect to History of Medieval Serbia, but there should be separate article about medieval Serbian Empire).
 * Kingdom of Serbia (currently a redirect to History of Serbia, but there should be separate article about Kingdom of Serbia until 1918).
 * Pannonian Croatia (currently a redirect to History of Croatia, but there should be separate article about this state).
 * Kingdom of Croatia (currently a redirect to History of Croatia, but there should be separate article about this subject).
 * Banovina of Croatia (medieval) (currently a redirect to History of Croatia, but there should be separate article about this subject).
 * if anybody think that any other article about historical or geographical regions of Former Yugoslavia should be written, he can mention this here. PANONIAN   (talk)  23:11, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Redirect from title without diacritics
There is a lot of work to be done with regard to R from title without diacritics. --Joy &#91;shallot] 18:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Application
I want to join. I could possibly contribute (time is a factor) to (former) Yugoslav related topics that are somehow connected to my native country: such as ajvar, burek, Bushava Azbuka, Mizar (band), etc. --FlavrSavr 21:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Opća enciklopedija
I started the article and ran out of inspiration. Any help would be welcome: General Encyclopedia of Yugoslavian Lexicographic Institute. --Dijxtra 20:01, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Ha! We have a template now! If you use the encyclopedia as a referene, try using template. See how it works in Molat (island) article. --Dijxtra 20:27, 12 September 2006 (UTC)


 * That's brilliant - I would give you a barnstar, but I believe that you'll just go mad from too many barstars. :) --HolyRomanEmperor 17:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProjects
I've got an idea - how 'bout we mention links to the independent states' WikiProjects. Maybe we could make a brotherhood (or sisterhood) among 'em - WikiProject Serbia, WikiProject Montenegro, WikiProject Croatia, WikiProject Bosnia and Herzegovina, WikiProject Slovenia, WikiProject Republc of Macedonia. There was an attempt for a Kosovo WikiProject, but it collapsed due to WP:NPOV and don't feed the trolls! --HolyRomanEmperor 21:40, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I've been thinking about getting together some editors to set up a WikiProject for Bosnia. Any thoughts on this? I can't decide if it will help improve Bosnia-related articles, or just end up descending into type of arguments that happen on Bosnia pages. Cordless Larry 14:39, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd say it's just going to die like this project, and Croatian wikiproject :-) --Dijxtra 16:59, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, we'll see because Kseferovic has kindy set up WikiProject Bosnia and Herzegovina. Cordless Larry 08:56, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * NOOO! This Project isn't dead - Yugoslavia always lives forever! ;) --PaxEquilibrium 18:35, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Project directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 17:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

1923 election
This: Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes election, 1923 may interest some of you. It's pretty messy since I don't really have a comprehensive source, but it's a start. It could use some tender love and care from you Yugonostalgics ;D.--Thewanderer 18:18, 4 November 2006 (UTC)


 * On it... --PaxEquilibrium 17:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

A mere Suggestion
I suggest all members take a look at the Order I've established at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Belgrade. It failed because there aren't many members, and those who are members are mostly inactive - but it could work here; this WikiProject has a lot more members (and luckly, they're active). It might also be a way to prevent the fate of Belgrade's WikiProject catching this one. Just a suggestion, any opinion on how I dealt with the situation? --PaxEquilibrium 17:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Munteni-Buzau
Well, I have a question about this Romanian city, and, unfortunately, there is no Wikiproject Romania, and this was the best I could do. If anyone knows: is this the same location as Buzău County, which is in the historical region of Muntenia? I probably won't be checking back here, but if anybody could leave a message on the talk page there, or redirect or merge it (or something!), please do. I appreciate your help (even though this isn't the Balkans, strictly speaking). -Patstuarttalk 23:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Tito - Stalin split
Anybody still alive here?

We have three articles dealing with essentially the same topic: Titoism, Tito-Stalin split and Informbiro. Would anyone be willing to attempt to help merge these articles? Any ideas on how to go about it? --dcabrilo 20:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Leave Titoism as separate article on an ideology (as per Stalinism). Merge Informbiro into Tito-Stalin split because it resulted directly from the Split. If not merge, then take out parts that are duplicated from one article and leave them in the more appropriate article so as to create 2 distinct articles only briefly mentioning each other. (that's my bright 2:37 in the morning idea) :)  Maîtresse  10:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello
Hi, I'm DIREKTOR from Split and I think I really might be of use to you guys.. so if you don't mind me joining I would like to help finishing up articles about the NOB and such WWII-related subjects. I'm allso interested in the breakup-wars and the period (uncharacteristic as that may be for a Yugo-nostalgic guy ;D ) DIREKTOR


 * Hi there Ivan, people are always welcome to help out. The best thing to do is just start writing. If you want a peer-review of your work, or need references or have any other questions, just ask here. - Francis Tyers · 11:57, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Is there any way to join?
Heya fellas, im just interested in if there is any way to join the former yugoslavia project...let me know, thanks. Zlatko 07:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Zlatko, most certainly! All you need to do to join the project is add your username to WikiProject Former Yugoslavia/Members. --dcabrilo 08:34, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks a lot man, i'll put my name down. Zlatko 18:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Yugo Films
How do I let people know that they can contribute to the List of Yugoslavian films? (no nationalistic crap :P only acclaimed/notable works.) Where do I put it on the project page, if it's even appropriate? :) Maîtresse  08:44, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * ps: if I ever add nationalistic crap, please take it off, I was probably too ignorant to notice at the time :) Maîtresse  08:48, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I added it to this page: WikiProject_Former_Yugoslavia/Currently_working_on. --◤čabrilo◢ 10:02, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks Maîtresse  10:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Agrokomerc Scandal
Heya fellas, im thinking about starting an article on the Agrokomerc Scandal from 1987, anyone wanna help me out? Im thinking about doing it later this week?

Please let me know. Zlatko 22:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Foča massacres
You guys might be interested in the discussion about the Foča massacres on that article's talk page.--Carabinieri 07:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Proposal: WikiProject Europe
Hi, I was wondering what the relationship is between this project, WikiProject Eastern Europe and WikiProject Southern Europe. You all overlap on the Western Balkans so I was wondering if you guys had defined your scopes with that in mind.

In addition, I was noting down the related projects for WikiProject European Union and number of small European projects as I was going round. How do you guys feel about a parent "WIkiProject Europe" to link together as many European projects at the top (not merge, unless some fell the need to)? It could help discussion and cooperation between projects and possibly reduce overheads for the smaller ones. In addition for areas with no project of their own. Where a project has few members or is inactive, a common peer-assessment could help them move forward.

Ideas? For central discussion, see WIkiproject EU talk page -  J Logan t: 11:59, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Request
League of Communists of Bosnia and Herzegovina, it's listed under State control. I'm interested yet I can't find many sources on the matter. Can some one with more knowledge on this subject work on this? Premier Tom Mayfair 01:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Need a native speaker
I'm working on the Red Link Recovery Wikiproject.

List of Slovenian language poets lists a poet as Aleš Šteger (a red link). We have a page for Ales Steger, which refers to him in the text as "Ales Šteger".

Please could someone tell me which spelling is correct ? thisisace 17:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Aleš Šteger is correct and Ales Steger should redirect to it. -- ★ čabrilo ★ 21:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Gdje ste?
Halo ljudi. Interesuje me, ko je ovdje ostao? Vidim edit-e sa Snake BGD i Boze pravde, ali ostatak vas nesto ne-vidjam. Interesuje me ko je ovde jos aktivan? Javite se, ponekad se osjecam ko da sam sam na ovoj wikipediji :(. Zlatko 06:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Notification of merge proposal
I'm not sure it's within the scope of this WikiProject, but I have proposed that the articles BiH Croats 1991‎, Croatian percentage in Bosnian-Herzegovian municipalities 1971-1991‎ and Croatian percentage in Bosnian-Herzegovian municipalities 1953-1961‎ be merged into Croats of Bosnia and Herzegovina. You are invited to join the discussion, at Talk:Croats of Bosnia and Herzegovina. A ecis Brievenbus 15:44, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Yugoslav people
Category:Yugoslav people and its subcategories have been nominated for renaming to Category:Yugoslavian people (etc.). If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. – Cgingold (talk) 11:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

USE of copyright permissions for Former Yugoslavia
The template suggested for all works from the Former Yugoslavia (pre-1941 and post-1943).

Template: PD-Yugoslavia

This work is not an object of copyright by the Agreement on succession issues; Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Republic of Croatia, the Republic of Macedonia, the Republic of Slovenia and the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, being in sovereign equality the five successor States to the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, have agreed in Vienna on 29th of June 2001 as follows: javascript:toggleNavigationBar(1);

Gaston200 (talk) 15:10, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Question
A question: shouldn't we rename the WikiProject into "WikiProject Yugoslavia"? WikiProject Soviet Union does not have the word "Former" in it, neither does WikiProject Austria-Hungary. Come to think of it, I've never seen any former country WikiProject with the word "Former" in its name. Surely now that even Serbia and Montenegro is dissolved there is no question as to whether the country is "Former" or not. Indeed, I'd even go as far as to say it is very close to common knowledge among the general public. Apart from some meaningless (and unachievable!) goal of appeasing nationalist fanatics, I can't think of any reason why the WikiProject should keep this name. (Of course, I know little about WikiProject renaming, but I assume it is as simple as article renaming?) -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 14:51, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * An excellent suggestion. -- Gaston200 (talk) 15:04, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Its a lot of work, no question, but its doable... -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 15:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Made a few cosmetic alteration to the main project page. -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 15:57, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Nice work. -- Gaston200 (talk) 18:14, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Cats
Could use help with moving the project cats... -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 17:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I would be glad to help, however, I've never edited Cats and am still learning Wiki. -- Gaston200 (talk) 18:14, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Active Users
How many active members are there on the Yugoslavia Forum? -- Gaston200 (talk) 18:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Very few apparently... -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 09:17, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Ironic.

Btw, thanks a lot for all the good work you're doing on this project. Hopefully many more Wikipedians of such virtue will join the effort. -- Gaston200 (talk) 05:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Userboxes
Here are three (new) UBXs for use by members:

Gaston200 (talk) 18:29, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Made a few changes, hope you don't mind. Feel free to revert. -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 16:14, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

New Barnstar
The Yugoslavia Order of Merit is to be awarded to Wikipedians: ...for exceptional effort and dedication to articles related to WikiProject Yugoslavia.

Yugoslavia Order of Merit

Notice
I'll be busy for a few more days and won't be able to contribute. Thanks for the Barnstar, Gaston, excellent work on the templates. :) -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 08:00, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Templates
All WikiProject templates are now listed here. These include new ones. -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 11:11, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Redesign
The project page is now fully redesigned. Please see the to-do list for articles in urgent need of attention. -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 11:59, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Yugoslav or Yugoslavian?
What is the proper adjective for someone from the former Yugoslavia, Yugoslav or Yugoslavian? Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football. Aecis·(away) talk 07:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group
Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. &mdash; Delievered by §hepBot  ( Disable )  on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 07:02, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Article alerts
This is a notice to let you know about Article alerts, a fully-automated subscription-based news delivery system designed to notify WikiProjects and Taskforces when articles are entering Articles for deletion, Requests for comment, Peer review and other workflows (full list). The reports are updated on a daily basis, and provide brief summaries of what happened, with relevant links to discussion or results when possible. A certain degree of customization is available; WikiProjects and Taskforces can choose which workflows to include, have individual reports generated for each workflow, have deletion discussion transcluded on the reports, and so on. An example of a customized report can be found here.

If you are already subscribed to Article Alerts, it is now easier to report bugs and request new features. We are also in the process of implementing a "news system", which would let projects know about ongoing discussions on a wikipedia-wide level, and other things of interest. The developers also note that some subscribing WikiProjects and Taskforces use the  parameter, but forget to give a link to their alert page. Your alert page should be located at "Wikipedia:PROJECT-OR-TASKFORCE-HOMEPAGE/Article alerts". Questions and feedback should be left at Wikipedia talk:Article alerts.

Message sent by User:Addbot to all active wiki projects per request, Comments on the message and bot are welcome here.

Thanks. — Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}κοντριβς – WP Physics} 09:53, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

Pages Needing Attention
Hello Direktor. If you would take a gander at this page: Mate Boban, I added some tags, just citations. If an article is citing references, good deal. If the article is POV, it is casting a shadow upon our mixed heritage as former Yugoslavians. I am willing to help on articles that have a POV slant when it pertains to the FROY, and others in between, which are finally starting to dwindle down. In your opinion, did the Mate Boban article merit the tags in put on teh page? Thanks Nathraq (talk) 21:25, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

RfC on Talk:Serbo-Croatian language
There are currently RfCs on Talk:Serbo-Croatian language which directly concern this WikiProject, I'd appreciate any input by knowledgeable Users. -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 10:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Macedonia naming Request for Comments
A Centralized discussion page set up to decide on a comprehensive naming convention about Macedonia-related naming practices is now inviting comments on a number of competing proposals from the community. Please register your opinions on the RfC subpages 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. -- ChrisO (talk) 00:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

New Template
Template:Urban Rail transportation in the former Yugoslavia, in case anyone's interested. (LAz17 (talk) 04:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)).

Prusurate
Can anyone help with this article? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:25, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Smrt fašizmu, sloboda narodu
User Pim Rijkee asked: "Please consider renaming the article per WP:EN". Additional comments are welcome. --Kebeta (talk) 00:08, 10 December 2009 (UTC)