Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Zoroastrianism/Archive 1

Hi, I'm the first member. Glad to have you here.

Amir85 (a Sassanid lover glad to join this project)


 * Hi, welcome Amir. Feel free to add the Zoroastrianism wikiproject image to your home page.


 * --Amin123 13:38, 19 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Cool, I thought of starting this myself, but didn't think anyone else was interested. Where on earth do we even begin?! Khiradtalk 00:50, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I've expanded this page using the other religious WikiProjects (WikiProject Hinduism, etc.) as guidance. I'll continue trying to organize this just to get it started; after all, it can be changed later. Khiradtalk 15:48, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Resources
I thought it might be a good idea to list our resources, so we can coordinate, pool and discuss information better. The resources I use (from most to least, roughly) are: Khiradtalk 16:37, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Avesta: Zoroastrian Archives
 * Zoroastrians: Their Religious Beliefs and Practices, Mary Boyce
 * Textual Sources for the Study of Zoroastrianism, Mary Boyce
 * The Dawn and Twilight of Zoroastrianism, R.C. Zaehner (also read Teachings of the Magi, but don't have my own copy)
 * Persian Mythology, John R. Hinnells
 * Zoroastrianism, Paula R. Hartz
 * Persian Myths, Vesta Sarkhosh Curtis
 * Man's Religions 5th ed. ch. 12, David S. Noss
 * Religions of the Silk Road, Richard C. Foltz
 * Circle of Ancient Iranian Studies - blacklisted URL per  & elsewhere.  The Behnam 23:08, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Farvardyn
 * Vohuman
 * Traditional Zoroastrianism (for the Conservative Parsi POV)
 * various other random sites and books with some useful information, but not worth mentioning - Plus things like the Shahnameh, Book of Daniel, Rig Veda, etc.

Adding to the above: -- Fullstop 13:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Parsiana - bi-monthly magazine of the Parsi community. Back issues available online. The Conservative Parsi POV (see above) considers the Parsiana "heterodox". :)
 * I have a hard copy of a 1400 page 2-volume work "Parsi lustre on Indian soil" published in 1939 which has tons of biographical material on the who-is-who of living (at the time) and dead Parsis. It also has a few short articles such as "Parsis and shipbuilding" (written by a Wadia, so you can guess which POV that comes from), and plenty of photographs, but of poor quality. It also contains descriptions of a couple of curiousities, such as a picture and description of the first bomb shelter (supposedly the first known construction built with that purpose in mind) - built by a Parsi in London in 1914.
 * I have a hard copy of 1979 edition of "What a Parsee should know" by an Ervad (priest) Jal Rustamji Vimadalal. Its a mess structurally (some paragraphs are four or five pages long and cover a multitude of topics), has a poor index, is (mostly) weak on citation, but contains some great passages on themes such as Dualism and (the lack of) a doctrine of reincarnation.
 * I also have access to the books/periodicals one would expect to find in a well-stocked university library.

Zoroaster
I think this article is actually not of good quality.. It doesn't mention much about where Zoroaster lived (I added a link), what is that stuff about Aryan theory being wrong, etc? Lol..I don't have enough time/info to fix it up at the moment --Kash 00:29, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

The problem of the time, when Zoroaster (or Zarat-Ust-Rae) lived, is certainly not solved if we speak of only one Prophet, whose Hellenic title (not name) is supposed to be Zoroaster, which is translated in many ways. But, if we think in terms of several people, who lived at various times in history, then we shall get a more correct picture. And if, we try to use other languages (not only Greek, Sanskrit or something called Avestan), and their title-name Zarat-Ust-Rae, we might get much clearer picture about who those Prophets Zoroasters were! If, for example, we use ancient Slavonic languages, the title-name Zarat-Ust-Rae, makes sense, and it comes out as "Golden-Mouth (from) Raey"! And Raiy is the Paradise in all Slavonic languages, which was a town near modern Teheran (now, I believe, a suburb), where according to Marco Polo, were buried the Magi, who brought gifts to Baby "Saviour" called Jesus (Mat 2:1-12) Interestingly enough, the Saviour born of a "Virgin", who when bathed in a lake (sometimes in Se'istan=Sakastan or Ser'istan, sometimes in Lake Urmiya in Kordistan part of Iran), became impregnated, and gave birth to the Saoshyan or macho-man Mashya (the first man), which became Messiah in Judeo-Christianity. And according to Avesta, there are supposed to be three of them, all the sons of the Prophet, and one is called Maitreya (in fact Mitra, who was Yama's Twin or Mithras), who became Judeo-Christian Archangel Michael. YOURS Georgie ZORIastro, One of the Best Poets of the 20-th Century - www.Poetry.com - E-mail:zorgeo2003@yahoo.co.uk...Written on MAY 20, 2007...


 * Haha, you should seriously consider anti-psychotic medication. 213.112.137.133 (talk) 10:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Would someone please go over ...
I've made the following edits in the last two weeks. Would someone please go over them?

I've rewritten:
 * Avesta (yesterday)
 * Zoroastrian calendar (last week). Actually, I started out writing the entry on Parsi calendar first, but that section (of Parsi people) is now a synopsis - of the portions specific to Parsis - of Zoroastrian calendar.

Significant rewrites:
 * Jamshid (the mythological part)
 * Faravahar - previous article was a copyvio of the Boyce article

To do: Also... Someone please say something to my comment on Talk:Norouz. :)
 * The current version of Gathas is a copyvio of http://www.zarathushtra.com/z/gatha/dji/The%20Gathas%20-%20DJI.pdf

-- Fullstop 16:12, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

tried organizing
I tried organizing the articles. --Dangerous-Boy 01:05, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Zoroastrians in Iran
I am working on this article, if anyone has any opinions about the style, info, go a head and let me know. Much thanks, --K a s h Talk 16:50, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Huma, Homa
Does anyone know anything about the Huma 'bird of paradise?' Is it Zoroastrian? Or is it Muslim? Or are there two myths confused here? See dicussion at Talk:Homa (mythology). Chris 14:31, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * A lot of Persian mythology is based on Zoroastrianism, and the fact that there is a Zoroastrian ritual called Homa as well, to me it looks like its most probably a Zoroastrian thing. I have never heard of it connected to Islam. --K a s h Talk 14:51, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

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Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2006/December/6
it's up for deletion —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dangerous-Boy (talk • contribs) 23:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

Category:Religious leaders
The current organization there is abit muddled, and needs some discussing how to deal with. A general proposal for cleaning it up is posted at Category talk:Religious leaders, and more input would be great. It doesn't address the issue of Religious leaders/religious workers/religious figures, but that is another issue that exists. Badbilltucker 21:57, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

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has been nominated for deletion -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 04:19, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

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