Wikipedia talk:Wiki Loves Pride/Archive 2

Local pride photos
I have several photos from Exeter Pride 2015 and Totnes Pride 2014. I can't imagine these events having articles in themselves (especially Totnes) but perhaps they could be of general use. Christine Burns and Peter Tatchell were at Totnes, I'll see if I have any worthwhile pictures of them. Sophie means wisdom (talk) 07:12, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Great! You could upload your pictures to Wikimedia Commons here, then if you were interested in showcasing them here you could create Wiki Loves Pride 2015/Exeter Pride and Wiki Loves Pride 2015/Totnes Pride. I would just note on the page which year the photos were taken from. You might even inspired others to upload images from the same events or others! (And if you don't have an interest in creating galleries, you might note here the total number of images uploaded to Commons.) Please let me know if you have any questions. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 07:17, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for that. I've put (non pride related) pictures up on commons before, I just didn't want to put up something that wouldn't be used. And now I have to find which memory card they're on... Sophie means wisdom (talk) 07:24, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind, even if there is not currently a Wikipedia article about a specific pride event, that does not mean there won't be one in the future or the images couldn't be used to illustrate other articles. Looking forward to viewing your photos, assuming you find the card! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 07:41, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps I've misunderstood
Is this ONLY for articles and improvements at a sponsored event? deisenbe (talk) 13:05, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * This campaign is open for all to participate in whatever ways they wish. Some cities organize in-person meetups, others participate remotely; some contributors focus on creating and improving articles, while others upload images and photograph pride events. You are welcome to help as little or as much as you can, all constructive edits improve Wikipedia. ;) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:45, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The Results page, however, is meant to reflect contributions made to LGBT-related content during the month of June, so I will remove some of the entries you've added which don't yet reflect this. Feel free to add them back once you make improvements to them. Thanks for contributing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:54, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

How did this land on my talk page?
Hi, just logged in to find a message from this project on my talk page. I have 2 questions: 1 - Why did you put it there and 2: Is it possible for you to not do it again please? Thank you on both accounts. What does the Fish say? &#124; Woof! 12:54, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Apologies if the invitation was unwanted. I think I've only sent invites to current and former participants of WikiProject LGBT studies, plus individuals who signed on as participants in last year's campaign. However, I don't see your name listed at LGBT studies. Perhaps a former user name that redirected to your talk page? Again, apologies. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:50, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Consider submitting new or improved articles to DYK!
I asked here about making an effort to nominate and run LGBT-themed articles in the Did you know? section of the main page, intended to highlight newly created or recently expanded articles. Please do consider nominating articles developed through this program for DYK (instructions here). It's also pretty encouraging to editathon participants to see their new creations on the main page. Opabinia regalis (talk) 22:06, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

The mass postings are breaking archival processing
Can someone fix the mass postings of June 2&3? (such as ) All these mass posting are missing dates, so will not be correctly processed by the archival bots that work on wikiproject talk pages. These all require dates in the proper signature date format, so the mass posting is wrong in that manner. Someone needs to go through all the posts and add dates. -- 70.51.203.69 (talk) 04:11, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Black Banana in Philadelphia
Good timing! I found the link to here on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Philadelphia Btw, that was not done correctly as stated above, I edited this one.

The Black Banana was a very popular nightclub in Philadelphia in the 70's through 90's. Unfortunately, the article right now is unsourced. I found one long personal remembrance here but nothing other than that from mainstream news searches. I think It will take someone from the gay community to search specific sources to find info on this. Hopefully someone can help out. Thanks. Mnnlaxer (talk) 16:15, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. Interesting, nothing about the articles suggests it is connected to the gay community, except perhaps that the owner died from AIDS. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:22, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The only substantial sources I found (both in External links) are from the gay community. So I thought that would be the only way to find more sources. It doesn't look like there is enough to sustain an article. Mnnlaxer (talk) 03:04, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Requests?
Is anyone aware of a list of requested LGBT articles? --Varnent (talk)(COI) 04:34, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * There is this Tasks page. All are welcome to add more notable LGBT-related subjects missing articles. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:36, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Cool - I added some See Also links to two other pages that I found. :) --Varnent (talk)(COI) 20:53, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

I want in!
'''Hey! I want to join. How do I join, or contribute?''' — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnønʘmøṑṨ (talk • contribs) 05:21, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

In other languages
Can I start this campaign on Punjabi Wikipedia.--Satdeep Gill (talk • contribs 06:41, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, please! You are also welcome to list contributions in other languages on the English Wikipedia results page (see the 2015 results page for Persian- and Spanish-language contributions). --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:10, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * And please be sure to share a link after you've created the page. :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:40, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

NYC event
Please keep me up to date about the NYC event at MoMA. Bearian (talk) 12:57, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Meetup/NYC/Wiki Loves Pride 2016.--Pharos (talk) 05:17, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

You are invited
(To subscribe, Women in Red/Invite list. Unsubscribe, Women in Red/Opt-out list)
 * --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:42, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

One sided discussion of psych studies of 'latent homosexuality'
In the wake of the Orlando shooting several students and former students have referred me to wikipedia pages (internalized homophobia and latent homosexuality), concerning a supposed link between homophobia and 'latent homosexuality', thus supporting a view that it is repressed gay men who cause anti-gay violence (!!!). These articles have extensive discussions of a few studies based on one psych theory (Freud) and 1) don't report the non-Freudian interpretations of the results (which the authors themselves do), and 2) don't mention the non-Freudian responses (I assume because these don't make the popular press). My concern is that these are being read and reported as though these few results are established facts in the field, when they are nothing of the sort. But they are splashy. One of the articles is locked, and I honestly don't know how to edit the other to clarify what the published articles actually say (I read the primary literature on this.) I am not interested in trashing the articles, just looking to make them clear and less misleading. (I'm a gay prof.) ProfMikeH (talk) 01:13, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you post links to these pages on the talk page for WikiProject LGBT Studies? You'll likely get attention from more people there... Funcrunch (talk) 01:19, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride should start using the programs and events dashboard
There is an experimental tool at meta:Programs & Events Dashboard which tracks groups of people for themed programs.

I have been using this since it began testing in late 2015. It is still in development, and there are some drawbacks, but I would recommend it to anyone organizing any event. It is easy to set up and gives great reports on events and "campaigns" of multiple events. I set a campaign tag for this year called "Wiki Loves Pride 2017". Next year we should use a 2018 tag, and this system permits tracking of multiple years. This means that the system offers a way to track everything anyone does in any Wiki Loves Pride event ever, from now on.

There are two parts to using this. One is that an organizer sets up an event page. Anyone who has never edited Wikipedia can do this easily in a few minutes. The next step is that anyone participating in an event or program has to have a wiki account and join the program, usually by going to the dashboard event page and clicking join but alternatively by giving their wiki name to the program coordinator if for some strange reason the users do not click "join". Joining here is supposed to be comparable to the familiar joining process of eventbrite, or meetup.com, or Facebook. After someone joins, whatever they do in any Wikimedia project, in whatever language, gets tracked as a program outcome.

To start, here is a report from Wiki Loves Pride 2017 NYC at the Museum of Modern Art. There are some problems with this which could be massaged out. Notably, the dashboard is reporting 24,000 file uploads to Commons, probably because user Pharos was recently using automated tools to upload public domain images from a photo archive. To correct that, that power user could be kicked out and the report would update to exclude their data and give a more accurate report of the casual meetup which happened at that event. From the top, the report should read as, "35 Wikipedia editors edited 106 articles 567 times and added 10,000 words." To me, this looks like a fair report and it helps to measure what happened at an event. Reports like this are of interest to the volunteers, the venue hosting the event, and the Wikipedians who host the program.

Wiki Loves Pride's decentralized structure and history of reporting outcomes make it a natural fit for using this tool at future events and programs.  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  20:37, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Arden Hilliard
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Elisa.rolle (talk • contribs) 16:28, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Articles for deletion/Arden Hilliard

AfD John Spofford Morgan
Articles for deletion/John Spofford Morgan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elisa.rolle (talk • contribs) 01:50, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

WLP 2018 remote participation link is a redlink
Wiki Loves Pride 2018/Remote Participation is a redlink; should it just be redirected to WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/79? ☆ Bri (talk) 18:59, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No, I just haven't copied over content from Wiki Loves Pride/2017/Remote Participation. Feel free to, or I will get to this when I can. ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:42, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Tasks cleanup
It didn't look like Wiki Loves Pride/Tasks had much cleanup since 2015 so I did this culling of bluelinked biographies. Hope it wasn't overboard. ☆ Bri (talk) 01:49, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Remote project tracker
I just posted this Talk: topic in Wiki Loves Pride Remote Participation and wanted to make sure that others see it for some feedback as it is potentially time sensitive. Just occurred to me we do not track or have any data about our scope, so wanted to raise this as an idea. --- FULBERT (talk) 14:15, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

GLAM/Metropolitan Museum of Art June collaboration on LGBT artists and their artworks
We're holding a June collaboration as part of Wiki Loves Pride for the Met, and I'd like to share a custom table of works by LGBT artists: GLAM/Metropolitan Museum of Art/Artworks/LGBT artists. This uses the Mbabel draft-tool to create starter articles from the redlinks. Just click one of the redlinks in the table, and you'll see how it works! There are a bunch of artworks from several artists here that could potentially have the requisite sources for an article, as well as existing bluelinks that could be improved. I think I'll start on Draft:The Annunciation (Sandro Botticelli) if anyone wants to join me, but there are a lot of options.--Pharos (talk) 20:47, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:30, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Theme for 2019 - Gender + The Non-Binary
Art + Feminism, an allied Wikipedia project, has established "Gender + The Non-Binary" as its theme and outreach direction for its 2019 campaign. That same theme is the subject of multiple discussions in English Wikipedia and elsewhere. Because of the trend of greatly increased discussions, and because of the synergy to everyone's mutual benefit, I think that Wiki Loves Pride should set "Gender + The Non-Binary" as its own theme for this year. If we do this, then WLP can build from what A+F started, and A+F can have a second round of outreach during the June WLP programming.

I am drafting some companion documentation to go with this but I wanted to post the note now.  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  17:57, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Withdraw idea Changed my mind after some conversations - maybe we could have a theme in a future year. If we have a theme it should come from thoughtful discussion, consensus, and some pre-commitments from various individuals and organizations to do something in the theme. I think for 2019 we are not prepared to do justice to a particular theme.  Blue Rasberry   (talk)  17:40, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Announcing Wiki Loves Pride
Here is an announcement in The Signpost:


 * Wiki Loves (50 Years of) Pride

 Blue Rasberry  (talk)  16:09, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , Thanks, I've added to the front page as well. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:22, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
 * There have been some discussions on the LGBT+ Telegram group and elsewhere about the dates for this, given some Pride events have already occurred and some happen after June (where it is more popular in North America). There was even a suggestion that Pride itself is much broader than the dates we sometimes include, and similar to other Wikipedia events that span a longer period of time and thus the tracking itself may be longer, can we extend the dates of Pride articles and Commons submissions for our global Pride tracking purposes to include all of 2019 Bluerasberry and Another Believer? --- FULBERT (talk) 23:06, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , I don't have strong opinions about campaign dates or criteria for adding contributions. But, if we just had an ongoing "Wiki Love Pride" campaign, I wonder how our work is different than other year-round WikiProjects like WikiProject LGBT studies. For me, part of the campaign is to dedicate some of your time and energy specifically to creating and improving LGBT-content, but certainly I acknowledge June does not apply to everyone, and there are folks who contribute outside the set "Wiki Loves Pride" dates. I'm also not opposed to having other campaigns during other times of the year -- perhaps ones commemorating LGBT History Month, other national holidays and LGBT-related observances, etc. If this were more of an ongoing campaign, would we be more like WikiProject Women in Red. Again, I'm open to whatever other community members prefer. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:12, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I wonder if limiting Pride in this way makes it more special or only more local? Thinking aloud here, though I wonder if having a campaign that is longer and more an ongoing experience may actually make this more inclusive of smaller communities, which otherwise are not tracked as part of the LGBT+ User Group contributions overall? --- FULBERT (talk) 23:22, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , Possibly. Again, I don't really have a strong preference here. Whatever editors want to help organize and facilitate is great. I've been doing things with not a ton of additional backend support for a few years, which is not meant to discredit all the editors who have supported this campaign thus far. I. just mean to say as long as there are editors in agreement about how and when to contribute, and there's support to help make this happen, I'm down! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:26, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The intent is to match Wiki Loves Pride with whenever a region celebrates its major LGBT+ holiday. In the United States this is around the 28 June en:Stonewall riots. In Europe they call this en:Christopher Street Day and often do it in July. In India the LGBT+ holiday is typically in January or February.
 * The United States has organized most of the on-wiki outreach so I feel that it is fine to update the campaign based on the United States schedule, until and unless another region steps up. When we do reporting of this, I think it is fine to do it by calendar year and report anything LGBT+ anywhere which the wiki community organized that year.  Blue Rasberry   (talk)  10:40, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

June 2019 online contest with photo+art+health themes
As I suggested on the Wikimedia LGBT+ user group conference call, I'd like to propose a larger campaign this year with banners similar to Wiki Loves Monuments, and a three-part contest: the traditional photography of pride parades and beyond, an art writing event, and a health writing event. The photography event would be in conjunction with Wiki Loves Love, the art event with Metropolitan Museum of Art (where I am a Wikimedian in Residence), and the health event with Consumer Reports.--Pharos (talk) 19:00, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Welcome, Women in Red!

 * WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/122

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:14, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Art and Health writing contests still open till July 31! (try out the LGBT artwork article draft tool)
I'd like to encourage all the good editors here to join Wiki Loves Pride/2019/Art and Wiki Loves Pride/2019/Health, both of which have great prizes and perhaps not as much competition as you might think. We also have a custom tool to start article drafts for works by LGBT artists that you are very welcome to make use of.--Pharos (talk) 18:54, 23 July 2019 (UTC)