Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-05-07/Fair use

Lots of content
There's so much content to read through on this issue guys, so, add what you can. -- Phoenix  (talk) 22:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Two minor nitpicks
Two minor points.
 * 1) We should link to List of The Simpsons episodes rather than The Simpsons because the latter wasn't a part of the discussion. The current text implies that I suggested we remove images from the article proper rather than the list.
 * 2) *✅ -- Phoenix  (talk) 21:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) I didn't suggest List of The Simpsons episodes. The reason for this is because that list already didn't have images per episode for editorial/technical reasons. There are sub-articles per season, and those have images which have since been removed, but I didn't think those were featured.

Probably using another example would solve both points neatly. List_of_One_Piece_episodes was discussed several times around that point in the discussion, as it had 300 non-free images. This is a minor enough change to the news piece that I'll leave someone else to do it.. :)--Gmaxwell 15:48, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it's pretty lame that the factual error I pointed out in (2) was never corrected. --Gmaxwell 13:47, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Misses the most important point
The article misses the most important point: that the gratuitous overuse of non-free images is being rectified on all "List of" articles. See User:Cyde/Cleaned up lists for a list of the ones we've cleaned up thus far. As you can see, it is a rather large undertaking. -- Cyde Weys 19:39, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Lovely, the article is not done yet, per the blatant notice at the top of the page. -- Phoenix  (talk) 20:08, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't get defensive. I know it's not done, hence I'm pointing you out to the important part that needs adding.  -- Cyde Weys  03:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * So be it, but you said it as if I wasn't making an effort to expand the article. -- Phoenix  (talk) 03:45, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Geesh, and you read it as if you thought he thought you weren't making an effort. Communication takes two parties. To me the notice at the top looks like something of a request not to edit it, so you should expect suggestions for content to show up here. :)  Relax. We're all friends. --Gmaxwell 06:44, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

template edit
The article should comment on the eventual removal of images at the source: from the templates used to create many, if not most of the episode list articles. THAT is what attracted the most attention wiki-wide.Circeus 05:49, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Appeal for help from interested parties
On my watchlist I have over 1100 pages to which I have contributed--from a single comma to full articles. During the past two years I have uploaded hundreds of popular culture images, making daily uploads at times. Some of these pictures are the result of hours of searching in order to find the perfect and relevant image.

Over 700 of these images have been designated as needing fair use rationale and will vanish from Wikipedia in a few days simply because there's no way I can add rationales to that many pages in a week's time. What is needed is a team of people dedicated to saving this material from banishment by adding fair use rationales. Please help if you can. Thanks. Here is a link that shows what is about to vanish from Wikipedia. Pepso 05:18, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Four days later, I continue to spend entire days adding Fair Use Rationales. Please help. My hand is getting sore. Pepso 14:31, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Formatting changes
Phoenix2 said:

(thanks, but no thanks...there's no need for the change really)

Okay, cool - it just didn't occur to me that the crashing text illustrated below was part of the intended look! ;) -Pete 18:19, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Darn. My apologies, sir; I'll revert it to your version. I don't see any such thing in Mozilla Firefox, or Internet Explorer for that matter, so perhaps it's my resolution. Sorry for the ignorance. -- Phoenix  23:19, 14 May 2007 (UTC)