Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-07-23/In the news

Wikipedia editors said to lack maturity
Sam Vaknin is the author of Wikipedia - Can Teenagers Write An Encyclopedia?. There also is a Articles_for_deletion/Sam_Vaknin. The deleted Sam Vaknin article and the Wikipedia - Can Teenagers Write An Encyclopedia article both have http://samvak.tripod.com in them. --  Jreferee  (Talk) 06:34, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, well, if you want to see the last time Sam wrote about us, it might be instructive to have a look at my correspondence page. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Sam Vaknin
Sam Vaknin's criticism need not be taken seriously. His views are not academic or scholarly; his write-ups on Wikipedia are a result of his frustration. He claims that Wikipedians decided to take revenge against him by authoring "a defamatory and slanderous article" on him. The fact is that the article was authored by an anon user (most probably himself, see the sockpuppet requests) and was deleted because of notability concerns (although Vaknin prefers to misguide others by saying that the article was removed "after repeated complaints" against slander and defamation).

The issue with the article was not any defamatory or slanderous content -- the issue was that User:Zeraeph had pointed out that an anon user was inserting biased content in favor of Vaknin and removed it. The anon called Zeraeph a "long-time Vaknin enemy", and insisted on adding biased content (in favor of Sam Vaknin) to the article.

Sam Vaknin (User:Samvak) was later found using multiple IP addresses to edit the article in his favor:
 * Suspected sock puppets/Samvak
 * Suspected sock puppets/Samvak (2nd)
 * Suspected sock puppets/Samvak (3rd)
 * Suspected sock puppets/Samvak (4th)

He was finally blocked and has been ranting against Wikipedia ever since. Here is a nice reply to his "Six Sins of Wikipedia": User:Ta bu shi da yu/Global Politician. 220.227.179.4 09:05, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Putting aside the fact that he writes out of frustration for Wikipedia, it is a complete joke that people under 25 are unable to grasp "historical and cultural context." I'll just remain stupid and consider every single one of my edits worthless, for they are completely unhelpful to the encyclopedia. --Fbv65 e del / ☑t / ☛c || 21:37, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hear, hear! Sr13 08:56, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Look, the less said about Sam the better. The fact that he posts of Global Politician merely makes Global Politician loses any credibility it might have had (and it has precious little of that). I refuse to respond to this man any further. The first time was fun, now it's getting tedious. - Ta bu shi da yu 00:13, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I wonder who the anon user was who made this edit... enochlau (talk) 05:46, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

If he's just some nobody then don't write about his review. But if you do write about it then don't link to his AfD or his "this user is blocked" user page, that just comes across as if you're out to get him. Haukur 14:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * In that case, please don't write a review and give him any more prominence than he's getting. It's just not worth it. He's a shameless self-promoter, and even bad publicity is what he wants. He wants notoriety. - Ta bu shi da yu 11:53, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I like how he had to throw in an attack on America with it. Isn't Wikipedia anti-American? Atropos 23:40, 26 July 2007 (UTC)