Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2015-04-01/In the media

So, you're not going to include the link I left in Suggestions to the Jimmy Wales interview on On the Media regarding the WMF lawsuit regarding surveillance? It's not very long and it is quite interesting. Liz Read! Talk! 21:10, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. I saw it in Suggestions and meant to listen to it but it slipped my mind. Gamaliel ( talk ) 04:23, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

No problem at all. I don't know how you juggle it all! Liz Read! Talk! 19:14, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I hope you can include it in this week's issue. Thanks. Liz  Read! Talk! 15:50, 31 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I've added it to "in brief", but I doubt I will have time to do any more than that unfortunately. We have a big issue planned.  Of course, you are welcome to do a full write-up here if you want to. (Hint, hint...)   Gamaliel  ( talk ) 17:01, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, the mention (above) was all I was expecting. Thanks! Liz  <b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 10:34, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

One more worth adding as an in-brief: Donate to Wikipedia and Pay for… What Exactly?. The Epoch Times, March 28. --Andreas JN 466 10:42, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

And another: Wikipedia Founder Distances Himself from Kazakhstan PR Machine, Eurasianet, April 2. --Andreas JN 466 23:47, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

What does a local Austin property issue have to do with anything encyclopedic? Looks like political innuendo ... these folks were involved in paid editing and appear to be real life dicks, so we'll connect to tar all paid editors by association. Should be removed per WP:BLPGOSSIP. NE Ent 11:55, 3 April 2015 (UTC)


 * It was a significant local issue which went viral nationally, with significant national publications constantly mentioning the Wikipedia connection. It got more media coverage than everything else in this edition combined. It was not something we could ignore.   Gamaliel  ( talk )
 * References? Or mainspace article in which the information is present? NE Ent 17:36, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Austin Moguls Bulldozed Mom & Pop Piñata Shop. Sublead: "Two Austin landlords, known most notably for their company that scrubbed away clients’ bad press and getting permanently banned from Wikipedia in the process, is accused of bulldozing a family’s piñata store to make room for a party at South by Southwest."  Gamaliel  ( talk ) 19:22, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * It was also on national US television on Jimmy Kimmel Live. Please do your homework before slinging around alphabet soup policies. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:48, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Burden is editor adding the material, of course. Issue referred to AN NE Ent 21:31, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * So, you were shown to be wrong, and you still went to ANI? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:50, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ... Did I just see this happen? Someone running off to administrators to complain that a well sourced article not even in the article mainspace was "gossip"? Should I assume that editor has a COI problem causing him/her to act irrationally or that he/she just really lacks understanding of how this site (and the world in general) works? DreamGuy (talk) 16:15, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I just closed the WP:AN thread, since everyone except NE Ent agreed that it wasn't a policy problem, but I also want to ask that this kind of thing not be covered in the future. Not because there's something wrong with it, but because it's not hugely Wikipedia related.  I mean, we don't publish articles about Jimbo every time he's in the news, and he's a lot more closely connected to Wikipedia than the Wiki-PR people were.  I look at the Signpost to get news about internal events and to learn when the project and its participants are getting outside-source coverage, not to get news about a legal case involving a banned commercial editor.  Nyttend (talk) 18:26, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Not every section is going to be compatible with everyone's tastes or interests.  "In the media", by its very nature, covers external events.   I have covered non-Wikipedia events related to Jimmy Wales, Larry Sanger, Sue Gardner, and others in this section.  (For example, Sanger's founding of Infobitt had absolutely zero to do with Wikipedia, but I thought it was significant enough to report on here.)   "News and notes" is the section devoted to internal news, and  does a great job of covering it there.  Gamaliel  ( talk ) 18:46, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * In an issue themed on the damage that Wikipedia is doing, it might be bad idea to put an image of Malik up that implies he died in 2015? I had to look twice to realize what that caption meant. Gigs (talk) 19:17, 6 April 2015 (UTC)