Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2015-04-01/News and notes

April Fools doesn't really work internationally - some editors will read this in timezones whree it's March 31. -- Aronzak (talk) 02:45, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Besides, it is far too silly. Gamaliel  ( talk ) 02:49, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep. Utterly inane. - Sitush (talk) 02:50, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know why we bother with the AFDay stuff, it's never funny.--ukexpat (talk) 03:01, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep. Utterly inane. - Sitush (talk) 02:50, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Both the edit-by-mail and focusing on its core userbase are actually good, viable ideas. Kinda sad, really, when focusing, or really having any focus, on the 90% (e.g., those without Internet access, or being a European male on a European language website with a traditional STEM focus) can be seen as no other than an obvious joke. Int21h (talk) 03:13, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Why just introduce edits by mail? There's also the more "modern" methods of sending edits by telex, telegram and Morse code. Some far islands may also contribute using ham radio (DXing and QSLs anybody?) or possibly use birds to send their edits to Wikipedia head office. werldwayd (talk) 03:19, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Because mail doesn't require a hydroelectric dam and electrical distribution network, or the extremely, extremely rare pigeon relays (which are probably mostly a European male interest). Sorry to ruin your quip with serious debate. Int21h (talk) 03:39, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Due to an on-wiki ban Int21h had to submit that comment by mail, just an FYI everyone&mdash;this system really is quick. Res Mar 03:45, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Increasing the number of video game Featured Articles… Ouch, man. GamerPro64  03:49, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * We're an equal-opportunity satirist. You'll notice that Gamaliel took a shot at warships as well. ;-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:09, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Edit wars by mail will be like Correspondence chess! Bring it on!--Milowent • hasspoken  04:04, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * You know what we didn't cover, ? What happens if there's a mail edit conflict? Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 23:30, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

I thought the reference to the destruction of the World Trade Center was particularly classy. And it's not too early to start thinking about which mass murder you want to make jokes about NEXT year. Neutron (talk) 04:09, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Although, having now read the main page I realize I should not single out the Signpost. After all, in one column we have a joke about a WW2 battle in which, by some estimates, more than 250,000 people died, and another joke about a U.S. Civil War battle in which more than 3,000 people died.  Happy April 1. Neutron (talk) 04:30, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Very different. We mention the World Trade Center as part of a larger piece of satire. OTD thinks that Okinawa is steel rain. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:40, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, I don't think either are appropriate. But I know I am swimming against the tide on this whole April Fool's thing.  I do note that the Okinawa "joke" was removed from the main page, but the Civil War "joke" is still there.  I guess the "line" is somewhere between deaths in the four digits and deaths in the six digits.  Neutron (talk) 23:10, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * "Comedy is tragedy plus time." Gamaliel  ( talk ) 23:26, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I found the Financial rescue package 'joke' by User:Tony1 to be not only boring and unfunny but pretty offensive too, to be frank. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 06:56, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I naturally defer to the current Chairman. However as a non-chapter member and previous Chair with relatives that were imprisoned during the war, my frank view is meh. --Fæ (talk) 07:52, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Like many jokes, that "in brief" entry contains shards of truth within a humorous vein. I think that is what has riled these UK chapter people; but it is April Fool's Day, right? It is indeed delicious when referents within a joke decide to react angrily, and to voice that publicly. Thrilling, actually, to know that it worked. Tony   (talk)  14:03, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * A casual and lazy reference to stereotypical Germans does not an April Fool's joke make. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 16:00, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * In all honesty, I found the article to be funny, but not as hilarious as the reaction from the Brits among the audience! I find it ironic that its Germans who have a reputation for lacking in a sense of humour, but I guess it's only to be expected for Brits to get upset at this April Fool's joke – they have always been Monty Pythonesque when the subject is them being dominated by Germans. ;-) --  Ohc  ¡digame! 17:21, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The support team deals with letters that are scanned by Chapters for instance. So if you know elderly people, tell them to address the letter to the local chapter which forward it to the support team. --Sargoth (talk) 07:21, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


 * The sister projects joke is pretty good. Kudos! Aubrey (talk) 09:59, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


 * The aggregation of the German speaking chapters is really unrealistic because the Swiss chapter is not a German speaking chapter. It speaks English in the administrative tasks, French and Italian and Rumantsch in half territory and the same "German speakers" don't speak German but Schweizerdeutsch. Hochdeutsch is used as "foreign" language. To write an "efficient" April fool more well documented people are needed. It could be a lesson for next time. --Ilario (talk) 12:54, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm perfectly well aware of the linguistic profile of Switzerland: almost two-thirds of the residents (and some 73% of the citizens) are native speakers of German, of whatever variety, and like other speakers of German-language varieties, they do Hochdeutsch too. But more importantly, if you had read the joke properly, there was no implication that the Swiss chapter serves the German-language sites exclusively. So there are lessons here for you in terms of "efficient" commentary. I'm unsure what you mean by "well documented people". Tony   (talk)  14:03, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Nope, less than 1 million of the permanent residents use German language at home . 63% are German and Swiss German (Schweizerdeutsch) speakers (so less than 73%) but ~60% of the overall permanent residents uses Swiss German (Schweizerdeutsch) at home, it means that only a 3% of the Swiss inhabitants can be considered "real" German speakers. --Ilario (talk) 17:09, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The WMF's stats indicate that a huge proportion of people in Switzerland who edit and read WP do so on the German WP. Not a Swiss variety of it. And if you have updates on the language figures, please edit the en.WP article on that country. Tony   (talk)  00:35, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The German joke ruined the whole thing for me as well. I was reading this on my laptop which I threw to the floor and screamed out to my wife "THE SWISS DON'T SPEAK GERMAN.  WHO THE F*CK WRITES THIS THING?"--Milowent • hasspoken  03:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * He's unapologetic. Res Mar 03:21, 2 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Hahahaha on "Wikimedia France did not return our calls"! And for the record, the Signpost is ill informed. European Wikimedia hegemony will actually happen from France, but they're just not saying, on account of their legendary best-friendedness with Germany. notafish (talk) 07:51, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm reading this on April 2nd so the timing seems off and the mail idea was too old-fashioned to be plausible. What I'm actually expecting from the strategic emphasis on mobile use is a voice interface for Wikipedia which will enable anyone to make voice-edits of Wikipedia.  This will make the Visual Editor seem comparatively staid and safe... Andrew D. (talk) 12:47, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * «Fact that Global North white male editors comprise some 90% of the Wikipedia user base». Sad but true. ---Zemant (talk) 17:11, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * So why was Poland excluded from the Global North in the diagram? I suspect I'm not in on a joke... -- llywrch (talk) 07:21, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Oops, look like we forgot Poland.  Gamaliel  ( talk ) 16:56, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that was a hurriedly colored map; we've probably missed a few others as well. The underlying point remains the same. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 17:19, 5 April 2015 (UTC)