Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2015-07-22/Wikimanía report


 * Susanna Mkrtchyan is in fact active in the Eastern Armenian Wikipedia (the one spoken in Armenia itself; Western Armenian is spoken throughout the Armenian diaspora), and is a board member of Wikimedia Armenia. She did also assist in some activities focused on Western Armenian, but it is misleading to gloss her name only with the Western Armenian work. Ijon (talk) 07:49, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * , please feel free to be bold & fix the links & wording. I did not find the proper links when I was writing the piece. I welcome whatever corrections or clarifications that you have to offer. Peaceray (talk) 15:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The "only available references may be those that the government permits." If the only available references are potentially from conflicted interests, they should not be stated in Wikipedia's voice, and there should probably be a clear indication of that state of affairs. How many countries have persecuted editors so far? EllenCT (talk) 13:47, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * , I agree that we need to develop a policy/guideline for identifying compromised sources, like we can mark things as  in citation templates. I also used the closed access template, which renders as . It would be great to have something to identify compromised sources. Peaceray (talk) 15:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * , after skimming through (and updating bits of) WikiProject_Inline_Templates, the closest existing ones I can see are SCIRS ⇒, and possibly POV-statement and the generic unreliable source?. (But those obviously aren't the within-cite-templates parameter that you suggested, they might work in the meantime). Quiddity (talk) 19:44, 25 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I would personally agree: being in China the Great Firewall would be the only situation I would use profanity. Eat me, I'm a red bean (take a huge bite)i've made a huge mess 15:41, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * "In pectore?" Was that the words Wales actually used? If so, it's revealing of his opinion of himself. -- llywrch (talk) 20:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, In pectore was the actual term he used; he also explained the term and gave the example of the Chinese bishop made a cardinal in pectore while imprisoned by the Chinese dictatorship. Whether or not it's "revealing" of anything else depends on one's desired predetermined conclusion. Ijon (talk) 20:41, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


 * "because of the government's blocking actions, the perspective of China within Wikipedia would be represented only by editors outside mainland China" - and Chinese-government-sponsored meatpuppets who are allowed to access Wikipedia and who also likely have the tools to create hard-to-detect fake online personas. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  23:01, 25 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Where are the videos of keynote speeches? Or should I ask why was there no provision for video to be even made, which is starting to look like the situation here... One would think that with hundreds of thousands of donor dollars being spent there would be at least some minimal effort to preserve and present key content to the 99% of Wikipedia volunteers unable to make it to Mexico City. There appears to have been a complete failure to do this by WMF, unless "copyright holders" Wikimedia-Mexico are merely being extraordinarily slow. Carrite (talk) 17:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * , the keynote speeches were recorded. It is my understanding that it takes awhile to process the video before it can be posted on the web. I do not know why this is, but I do know this is consistent with year's past. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable on the matter could explain why it takes so long. Peaceray (talk) 06:41, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * IIRC in 2013 and 2014 the keynote speeches were uploaded to a website that stored during the live stream.
 * They could have filmed the rest with camera phones or camera recorders. --NaBUru38 (talk) 23:14, 27 July 2015 (UTC)