Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2015-08-05/Blog

Great, you've established that

a) People edit more if other users give a shit about their edits,

b) Wikipedia has a bunch of complicated rules, and that puts people off,

c) Few people unsterstand the very basic concepts of statistics.. (Sampling error). 75% of people in this room have green hair, 100% are male, 50% are German. Clearly this world is dominated by green-haired German males.

Brilliant. How much of my donation-money did that cost? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.23.2 (talk • contribs)
 * And you are? Res Mar 03:51, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Someone editing Wikipedia. Same as you. 88.104.23.2 (talk) 04:03, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Well! If you participated in the mentorship program, you could learn things such as:
 * a) It cost (your donation/total donations)*($26160) from your donation! So, since you donated like $10, it cost you 26 cents. Except it didn't, because a donation is a gift, not an investment, so you don't get to attach strings to it.
 * b) That if you put ~ after your comment, it will sign it for other people to read- even as an anonymous IP who doesn't want to associate their username with their bitter comments, even though they're clearly a regular editor since you found an internal newspaper article 1.5 hours after it was posted!
 * c) That it's spelled "Wikipedia" and "understand", "German" is capitalized, and that you put a space after a period that ends a sentence!
 * d) That you can't complain about sampling error when the mini-report didn't tell you the sample size of the non-mentored group they compared against, and therefore can't tell how statistically significant the results of 49 people changing one variable are! -- Pres N  03:53, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Your first two points have been long known and this project was about developing a space with them in mind. If you have some other solution, I'd appreciate hearing it. I, JethroBT drop me a line 08:06, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * don't know why you are getting snippy with the ip. he merely exemplifies the bitey culture that prevails. for more check out m:Grants talk:Evaluation/Community Health learning campaign. this community has a culture problem, and the pushback to change will be enormous, and was to be expected. it will take a revamping of how we onboard newbies; i am glad to see a refreshing of mentoring, which along with teahouse is the way forward. (i would suggest also paid mentors / ambassadors as is done at wikihow.) Duckduckstop (talk) 19:31, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


 * You have little basis for criticizing the IP's grammar if you post a sentence like "Funded by an Individual Engagement Grant, myself and our team assessed the current state of help spaces on the English Wikipedia and created the Co-op, a mentorship space informed by our research." (bold added). Your program sounds great, by the way. Edison (talk) 19:54, 8 August 2015 (UTC)